LEGO Star Wars 2020 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Zap Rowsdower]

1 hour ago, Kdapt-Preacher said:

We've got Bith and Ithorian heads already, and they've made werewolf heads that would work well enough for the Shistavanen, but Ponda Baba probably needs a new mold, and so would the Givin, Gotals, Arcona, Devaronian, Chadra-Fan, Talz, Siniteen, and maybe Abyssinian and Duros (although they used a regular head for Cad Bane), and that isn't even all the ones I'd consider notable, so it seems unlikely that we'd get all the prominently-featured aliens; there aren't going to be that many new pieces in one set. 

I think you're overstating how many of those need a new mold. 

Based on previous MBS sets we can guess that a supposed Cantina set would include 15-25 minifigures. 

Let's go down the list:

1) Luke 

2) Obi-Wan

3) R2-D2

4) C-3PO

5) Han Solo

6) Chewbacca

7-8) Sandtroopers

9-10) Band Members

11) Greedo

13-14) Tonnika Sisters

15) Hem Dazon / Arcona (New Mold)

16) Muftak / Talz (New Mold)

17) Kane / Chandra Fan (New Mold)

18) Momaw Nadon / Hammerhead

19) Wuhar

20) Feltipern Trevagg / Gotal (New Mold)

21) Kardue'sai'Malloc / Devaronian (New Mold)

22) Jawa

23) Dannik Jerriko

24) BoShek

25) Dr. Evazan

26) Panda Boba (New Mold)

27) Lak Sivrak / Shistavanen

28) Garindan (New Mold)

29) Snaggletooth (New Mold)

30) Duros

Of the 30 characters that could conceivably be in the set, I'd say only 8 would require new molds 

If lego didn't want to make any new molds, they could still populate the set with at least 22 minifigures, many of which would be new. 

Edited July 15, 2020 by Zap Rowsdower

[ToaDraco]

Momaw Nadon or no sale! I'm only slightly kidding, Ithorians are my favorite Star Wars alien and despite LEGO making a perfect mold for an Ithorian head they only used it once on an unnamed character they made up. I'd be super thrilled if they brought back the mold for this set and others. There's a lot of potential for amazing figures for a massive cantina set like this. My wallet is already crying with all of the great sets coming out this year. This one might hurt. I actually recently got the cantina set from 2014 with that awesome Dewback mold and 3 members of Figrin D'an and the Modal Nodes so of course a MBS cantina is going to happen now. I'm curious if they'd throw in a Dewback as that mold was perfect but was only used once. Imagine if this is how we finally get a Bantha complete with specialized molds, man that would be downright dirty. Also, as great as it would be for the set to include the full Bith band, I'm not terribly enthused by the idea of having 6 minifig slots taken up by identical figures. The selfish part of me only wants them to do 3 since 3 already came in the 2014 set so anyone with that set will still get the full band and 3 slots can now be open for other figures. However, if the set has over 20 minifigs, 6 identical Bith might be fine.

1 hour ago, Kdapt-Preacher said:

The one thing that concerns me here is how many new molds they'd need to do a good job representing most of the cantina denizens. There are more than enough random humans in there to fill out the set, but most of the iconic aliens would need new heads at least. Many of them could be represented by standard minifig heads, but LEGO's tendency recently has been to go with custom pieces for most aliens. We've got Bith and Ithorian heads already, and they've made werewolf heads that would work well enough for the Shistavanen, but Ponda Baba probably needs a new mold, and so would the Givin, Gotals, Arcona, Devaronian, Chadra-Fan, Talz, Siniteen, and maybe Abyssinian and Duros (although they used a regular head for Cad Bane), and that isn't even all the ones I'd consider notable, so it seems unlikely that we'd get all the prominently-featured aliens; there aren't going to be that many new pieces in one set. Especially since, as TeufelHund suggests, this would also be a likely place to include Garindan or some of the other notable Mos Eisley folks who haven't shown up before. This thread has pointed out several times that Star Wars has gotten far fewer new molds in 2020 than we have in previous years, so the most optimistic view would be that this set will make up that deficit, but I'm not sure I'm that optimistic.

Don't forget they also did the same thing for the Duros in Rebel Battlefront bp. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they even used that exact same head print. I think there are a lot of ways they could do different aliens using existing LEGO molds without having to spring for a ton of new molds. Chadra-Fan for example could easily be made using the Manbat headgear piece or the bat head piece from Chima, Devaronians could be made using the gargoyle headgear piece, Givin could easily be done with a standard minifig head there's zero reason to make a new mold for that. The existing Talz mold would need to be modified to remove the headfan and shell from the chieftain, for Siniteen there's already a brain head piece from Alien Conquest that could easily be used, and Abyssin could easily just be a printed minifig head or the Cyclops minifig headgear could be used.

Edited July 15, 2020 by ToaDraco

[Kit Figsto]

2 hours ago, Kdapt-Preacher said:

The one thing that concerns me here is how many new molds they'd need to do a good job representing most of the cantina denizens. There are more than enough random humans in there to fill out the set, but most of the iconic aliens would need new heads at least. Many of them could be represented by standard minifig heads, but LEGO's tendency recently has been to go with custom pieces for most aliens. We've got Bith and Ithorian heads already, and they've made werewolf heads that would work well enough for the Shistavanen, but Ponda Baba probably needs a new mold, and so would the Givin, Gotals, Arcona, Devaronian, Chadra-Fan, Talz, Siniteen, and maybe Abyssinian and Duros (although they used a regular head for Cad Bane), and that isn't even all the ones I'd consider notable, so it seems unlikely that we'd get all the prominently-featured aliens; there aren't going to be that many new pieces in one set. Especially since, as TeufelHund suggests, this would also be a likely place to include Garindan or some of the other notable Mos Eisley folks who haven't shown up before. This thread has pointed out several times that Star Wars has gotten far fewer new molds in 2020 than we have in previous years, so the most optimistic view would be that this set will make up that deficit, but I'm not sure I'm that optimistic.

Talz has been made before in the Freeco Speeder set, they’d have to slightly change the mold (it has a plume on the head) but it would be very minimal since it’s just removing a part extending off of the head and filling in the gap.  Chadra-Fan is doable with the Man-Bat/Monster Fighter bat ear hairpiece, it’s not perfect but passable.  I think a Givin, Duros, Abyssian, Siniteen, and Devaronian could work as minifigure heads, or with accessories on their heads like Maul, and you could also do people like Djas Puhr or Snaggletooth with a standard minifigure head pretty easily in my opinion.  And, while aliens are awesome, there’s also a few human/humanoids that are pretty iconic too, like Dannik Jerriko (although he’s smoking so maybe not...), the Tonnika Sisters, Boshek...

Edited July 15, 2020 by Kit Figsto

[THELEGOBATMAN]

Mos Eisley Camtina is a MUCH more interesting choice than another Imperial Shuttle (the last one was pretty much perfect). 

As Just2Good mentioned, it would be cool if they also included The Mandalorian characters. I'm just afraid they'll include Mando in his beskar armor, and that he'll stay exclusive to this set for some time.

[BrickBob Studpants]

45 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

As Just2Good mentioned, it would be cool if they also included The Mandalorian characters. I'm just afraid they'll include Mando in his beskar armor, and that he'll stay exclusive to this set for some time.

My first thought was „no way they’d do that“, but it wouldn‘t actually be all that unreasonable. Past D2Cs have shown that they‘re perfectly fine with mixing characters from different films (scenes from both ANH and ROTJ being depicted in the two DS play sets, Bail Organa from RO being included in the Tantive IV, the MF featuring the TESB as well as the TFA crews)

[Seaber]

I just rewatched the Mandalorian Cantina scene and aside from the Mandolorian himself, and his flash pal, there are a only a couple of aliens who aren't that interesting, a sort of cross between the fly and praying mantis aliens from IV and a friendlier looking Saurin alien. The EV droids would be cool though, considering we haven't had one since 2003.

Not much point going into which aliens may be included here, but I think a street archway may be included to get Garindan and the Sandtroopers involved. 

Very excited for this, I'm hoping no Mando stuff to complete the IV cantina as much as possible, and hold back the EV droids for a future Jabba set. 

I know I'm setting myself up for disappointment, but this is another occasion where an R4 dome could become a reality, there is one outside the Cantina. 

[Sneakguest]

1 hour ago, Seaber said:

I just rewatched the Mandalorian Cantina scene and aside from the Mandolorian himself, and his flash pal, there are a only a couple of aliens who aren't that interesting, a sort of cross between the fly and praying mantis aliens from IV and a friendlier looking Saurin alien. The EV droids would be cool though, considering we haven't had one since 2003.

Not much point going into which aliens may be included here, but I think a street archway may be included to get Garindan and the Sandtroopers involved. 

Very excited for this, I'm hoping no Mando stuff to complete the IV cantina as much as possible, and hold back the EV droids for a future Jabba set. 

I know I'm setting myself up for disappointment, but this is another occasion where an R4 dome could become a reality, there is one outside the Cantina. 

Dont care about the exact composition of figures gris time, already have almost all cantina aliens already as customs, but just hope we dont get too many of the figures we already have plenty of. However I doubt they exclude Luke, C3, R2, Ben, Solo n Chewbacca even of I wish they would.

[MKJoshA]

I think we need to keep in mind that the Cantina is still just a possible rumor. Instagram is starting to post our speculations as fact. I hope the rumor is try. It would be my largest set purchase to date if they do it well. But it's still just a vague rumor.

[jedge]

I think the rumor is just "Mos Eisley" in general, not specifically a cantina. 

For $350 I think there's a chance they go the UCS Hoth route and do a kind of "best of Tatooine" grouping.  A set with a Cantina, Luke's Homestead, Obi-wan's Hut, Tusken Raider camp with Bantha, and a midi-size Jawa Sandcrawler.

[TeddytheSpoon]

18 minutes ago, jedge said:

I think the rumor is just "Mos Eisley" in general, not specifically a cantina. 

For $350 I think there's a chance they go the UCS Hoth route and do a kind of "best of Tatooine" grouping.  A set with a Cantina, Luke's Homestead, Obi-wan's Hut, Tusken Raider camp with Bantha, and a midi-size Jawa Sandcrawler.

I was wondering about that, and it's something I'd probably be more interested in than just a cantina. The only thing that makes me think it wouldn't be this is that we already have two Tatooine sets on shelves.

At the very least I'd prefer to get a set with different bits of Mos Eisley rather than just the cantina.

[The_Chosen_1]

Regardless of what exactly it turns out to be, the possibility of ANY kind of $300+ Tatooine set has me incredibly excited!

[Pedilego]

I did a search of existing ANH Tatooine sets that may be good to pick and in M&R's review of Kenobi's homestead, he seemed convinced the clips on the bottom were to connect to something else. Could we be looking at a clip-based modular Tatooine?

 

Regarding minifigures, remember a Kardue'sai'Malloc / Devaronian could be used in a Mando S1E6 set.

 

If it is more than just the cantina, the possibilities also include remakes of R2-A5 & R5-A2 (just a couple of many characters strolling around Mos Eisley), Jabba & Boba Fett (unlikely but they were in the Special Edition hangar scene), Uncle Owen & Aunt Beru, as well as the Tusken Raider/Banthan mold that's been mentioned.

[Mandalorianknight]

9 hours ago, Kit Figsto said:

Talz has been made before in the Freeco Speeder set, they’d have to slightly change the mold (it has a plume on the head) but it would be very minimal since it’s just removing a part extending off of the head and filling in the gap.  Chadra-Fan is doable with the Man-Bat/Monster Fighter bat ear hairpiece, it’s not perfect but passable.  I think a Givin, Duros, Abyssian, Siniteen, and Devaronian could work as minifigure heads, or with accessories on their heads like Maul, and you could also do people like Djas Puhr or Snaggletooth with a standard minifigure head pretty easily in my opinion.  And, while aliens are awesome, there’s also a few human/humanoids that are pretty iconic too, like Dannik Jerriko (although he’s smoking so maybe not...), the Tonnika Sisters, Boshek...

Yeah, I think it's likely that most of the patrons can use minifigure heads or existing molds. I'd guess the new molds would be ponda baba, and maybe garindan and/or a few other aliens.

I think it's also important to remember that there will probably be 8-10 spots taken up by existing figures. Luke, Ben, Han, Chewie, C-3PO, R2-D2, Greedo, Wuher, and a sandtrooper or two all seem like obvious choices. Add in some of the Bith band members and that's about half the spots taken up by existing characters that don't require new molds.

2 hours ago, jedge said:

I think the rumor is just "Mos Eisley" in general, not specifically a cantina. 

For $350 I think there's a chance they go the UCS Hoth route and do a kind of "best of Tatooine" grouping.  A set with a Cantina, Luke's Homestead, Obi-wan's Hut, Tusken Raider camp with Bantha, and a midi-size Jawa Sandcrawler.

The cantina rumors come from a leaker quoting the scene where ben kenobi chops ponda baba's arm off, I haven't seen any other rumors or leaks from reliable sources.

[DarkLordSauron]

3 hours ago, jedge said:

I think the rumor is just "Mos Eisley" in general, not specifically a cantina. 

For $350 I think there's a chance they go the UCS Hoth route and do a kind of "best of Tatooine" grouping.  A set with a Cantina, Luke's Homestead, Obi-wan's Hut, Tusken Raider camp with Bantha, and a midi-size Jawa Sandcrawler.

If the rumors are true and it is Tatooine/Mos Eisley, I struggle to imagine what would justify a $350 price tag. The last Cantina was $80, right? So that would be 4.5 times more expensive. Which leads me to think there's a space port... which leads me to think there could be a smaller sized Falcon in the vein of the Cloud City Slave I. Also, someone above mentioned all the possible minifigs--don't forget Jabba. This could be the first time we're getting him in a while.

[Balrogofmorgoth]

I would bet money were finally going to get Garindan

[Sneakguest]

3 hours ago, jedge said:

I think the rumor is just "Mos Eisley" in general, not specifically a cantina. 

For $350 I think there's a chance they go the UCS Hoth route and do a kind of "best of Tatooine" grouping.  A set with a Cantina, Luke's Homestead, Obi-wan's Hut, Tusken Raider camp with Bantha, and a midi-size Jawa Sandcrawler.

Way to optimistic unfortunately, that would be more like 800 USD. But a cantina + part of the street / market is more likely 

[UberCorp]

The potential for some Bad Batch sets has me interested. Wasn’t a big fan of their arc in CW, but I feel they have good potential to be made more interesting.

Also. If we finally get Garindan and he’s exclusive to a $350 set, Im going to be slightly disappointed. Been waiting on him since playing LEGO star wars as a kid and don't want to shell out an arm and a leg for him.

[Sneakguest]

4 minutes ago, UberCorp said:

The potential for some Bad Batch sets has me interested. Wasn’t a big fan of their arc in CW, but I feel they have good potential to be made more interesting.

Also. If we finally get Garindan and he’s exclusive to a $350 set, Im going to be slightly disappointed. Been waiting on him since playing LEGO star wars as a kid and don't want to shell out an arm and a leg for him.

The best way then is buying a good custom, there are a few custom manufactures, like Bigkidbrix who have a descent version of him

[Kaanere]

1 hour ago, DarkLordSauron said:

If the rumors are true and it is Tatooine/Mos Eisley, I struggle to imagine what would justify a $350 price tag. The last Cantina was $80, right? So that would be 4.5 times more expensive. Which leads me to think there's a space port... which leads me to think there could be a smaller sized Falcon in the vein of the Cloud City Slave I. Also, someone above mentioned all the possible minifigs--don't forget Jabba. This could be the first time we're getting him in a while.

All the cantinas we've had have been relatively small. This new UCS one could have the entire floorplan, or at least an aproximation:

 

[Sneakguest]

13 hours ago, Zap Rowsdower said:

I think you're overstating how many of those need a new mold. 

Based on previous MBS sets we can guess that a supposed Cantina set would include 15-25 minifigures. 

Let's go down the list:

1) Luke 

2) Obi-Wan

3) R2-D2

4) C-3PO

5) Han Solo

6) Chewbacca

7-8) Sandtroopers

9-10) Band Members

11) Greedo

13-14) Tonnika Sisters

15) Hem Dazon / Arcona (New Mold)

16) Muftak / Talz (New Mold)

17) Kane / Chandra Fan (New Mold)

18) Momaw Nadon / Hammerhead

19) Wuhar

20) Feltipern Trevagg / Gotal (New Mold)

21) Kardue'sai'Malloc / Devaronian (New Mold)

22) Jawa

23) Dannik Jerriko

24) BoShek

25) Dr. Evazan

26) Panda Boba (New Mold)

27) Lak Sivrak / Shistavanen

28) Garindan (New Mold)

29) Snaggletooth (New Mold)

30) Duros

Of the 30 characters that could conceivably be in the set, I'd say only 8 would require new molds 

If lego didn't want to make any new molds, they could still populate the set with at least 22 minifigures, many of which would be new. 

It would be fantastic with 8 new molded heads, but lego has never done anything similar befors, I would not except more than four, probably even less

[Mandalorianknight]

48 minutes ago, Kaanere said:

All the cantinas we've had have been relatively small. This new UCS one could have the entire floorplan, or at least an aproximation:

This is what I'm expecting. A full or at least larger cantina, probably with a small mos eisley alleyway on one side.

[Kit Figsto]

3 hours ago, DarkLordSauron said:

If the rumors are true and it is Tatooine/Mos Eisley, I struggle to imagine what would justify a $350 price tag. The last Cantina was $80, right? So that would be 4.5 times more expensive. Which leads me to think there's a space port... which leads me to think there could be a smaller sized Falcon in the vein of the Cloud City Slave I. Also, someone above mentioned all the possible minifigs--don't forget Jabba. This could be the first time we're getting him in a while.

The $80 model was only about 1/4 the size of a full one, though.  I think for $350 you could do a full cantina and some street scene/alley to add Garindan and maybe the door where the droids are hiding, but a full Mos Eisley for $350 wouldn't really be feasible in my opinion, as much as I'd like to see the spaceport.

[2maxwell]

5 hours ago, Pedilego said:

in M&R's review of Kenobi's homestead, he seemed convinced the clips on the bottom were to connect to something else. Could we be looking at a clip-based modular Tatooine?

He mentions this in his video on the new Mos Eisley rumors and, while I find it very believable, I would absolutely hate it. If they wanted to make modular sets, they should have stuck to technic pins. Clip based modules are a) never as flush as technic ones and b) short lived because of how often those damn clips break. I feel like I'm replacing all the clips in my collection every year.

[catfish]

A complete cantina is unbelievable for me. It's just 1 movie scene.

A collection of (small) scenes (cantina, market, spaceport) has more play features and is therefor more likely.

[lego_guyon02]

34 minutes ago, catfish said:

A complete cantina is unbelievable for me. It's just 1 movie scene.

A collection of (small) scenes (cantina, market, spaceport) has more play features and is therefor more likely.

You're really underestimating just how (ridiculously) iconic the Mos Eisley Cantina has become over the years. 

- It's the first time in the entire Star Wars saga where people really realise just how big the SW universe is thanks to the many alien patrons. 

- Many of the aforementioned alien patrons became Kenner toys that fans are really nostalgic for (things like Snaggletooth and Hammerhead). 

- People distinctly remember Figrin D'an and the Modal Nodes and the ''cantina song''.

- It's the very first time we see a lightsaber in action. 

- It's one of the most immersive areas we see in the film. 

And last but not least it's very important to remember these UCS/MBS sets aren't as kid-oriented as the normal sets, these things are for the fans.