Unpopular Opinions about LEGO

[Wolfpackfan99]

33 minutes ago, Maple said:

Yikes. I sometimes skip like 20 pages because I've seen people disagree with me and then just go on for pages. Like in the Blizzard work abuse topic. Just step out and walk away. haha

Yeah it got so bad the moderators had to intervene 

Wahoo!!! First one on page 37!!!! 

[Wolfpackfan99]

Okay unpopular opinion about ninjago:

It’s time for ninjago to end. The theme has gone on too long, and the quality has gone down so much. From the pilot to season 5, that is what I consider ninjago’s prime, I liked those, season 6 and 7 were okay, not really up to my expectations, but what really ruined the show to the point of no return was the Lego ninjago movie, that abomination threw season 8 out the window, and then angered the fan base, not to mention their merge little apology (day of the departed are your ears burning?), and then our highly anticipated season 8 is ruined by crap animation, and ninjago movie style ninja, and then it goes on and on and on and on until I have to get cataract surgery because my eyes couldn’t keep track of how many seasons there are 

[Aanchir]

4 hours ago, Wolfpackfan99 said:

Yeah I never thought I’d see the day when TLG finally made a school set and a grocery store.

It's definitely a big change to see so much emphasis on buildings, roads, and scenery in the City theme! Less than a decade ago, one of the most frequent complaints about the City theme was that it focused much too heavily on vehicles and not enough on buildings and scenery that you could actually build a substantial-looking City layout from. For example:

And I'm especially happy about some of those buildings being ones like a school, hospital, bank, observatory, lifeguard station, and grocery store — stuff that was typically rare or non-existent in past years of City, World City, or even Town sets, and that I'd have been reluctant to even get my hopes up for a lot of the time. Certainly, there's still an abundance of Fire and Police stuff like we've come to expect, but even the new fire and police stations are small enough that they no longer dominate the entire City range to the extent that they often did in the past.

Between this year's and last year's building and scenery offerings, I don't think there's been a better time for layout builders in the entire history of the City theme. Especially if the rumored train assortment this summer includes a station platform and other railway buildings/structures. And all this stuff also has me eagerly looking forward to what future years of City sets might offer!

If I have one regret, it's that all this stuff has unfortunately coincided with my marriage and move to Canada. Although this might be the ideal time for me to finally consider getting into themes like Friends or City to build a "tabletown" of my own, the apartment I share with my wife and our two cats doesn't really have much room for a unified layout of that sort. I can only hope that these emerging trends in the City theme remain stable enough that when I do have a better opportunity to take the plunge on that sort of thing, there will still be enough of these sorts of sets available for a "starter layout" that I won't need to dig into LEGO's back catalog for stuff I missed out on.

[Wolfpackfan99]

21 minutes ago, Aanchir said:

It's definitely a big change to see so much emphasis on buildings, roads, and scenery in the City theme! Less than a decade ago, one of the most frequent complaints about the City theme was that it focused much too heavily on vehicles and not enough on buildings and scenery that you could actually build a substantial-looking City layout from. For example:

And I'm especially happy about some of those buildings being ones like a school, hospital, bank, observatory, lifeguard station, and grocery store — stuff that was typically rare or non-existent in past years of City, World City, or even Town sets, and that I'd have been reluctant to even get my hopes up for a lot of the time. Certainly, there's still an abundance of Fire and Police stuff like we've come to expect, but even the new fire and police stations are small enough that they no longer dominate the entire City range to the extent that they often did in the past.

Between this year's and last year's building and scenery offerings, I don't think there's been a better time for layout builders in the entire history of the City theme. Especially if the rumored train assortment this summer includes a station platform and other railway buildings/structures. And all this stuff also has me eagerly looking forward to what future years of City sets might offer!

If I have one regret, it's that all this stuff has unfortunately coincided with my marriage and move to Canada. Although this might be the ideal time for me to finally consider getting into themes like Friends or City to build a "tabletown" of my own, the apartment I share with my wife and our two cats doesn't really have much room for a unified layout of that sort. I can only hope that these emerging trends in the City theme remain stable enough that when I do have a better opportunity to take the plunge on that sort of thing, there will still be enough of these sorts of sets available for a "starter layout" that I won't need to dig into LEGO's back catalog for stuff I missed out on.

Yeah I am actually Canadian, and live in central Ontario, so the only way to go to an official Lego store is to drive to Toronto or Oshawa, yeah you’ll get used to the crap Lego representation in Canada, we’re basically the bottom of the barrel for TLG, whereas our little buddies across the border have a bunch of Legolands, a billion Lego stores, and lots and lots of architecture sets 

[Wolfpackfan99]

Another thing too is that TLG has never actually made any public apologies regarding past sets and minifigures that were derogatory and offensive like:

every set depicting Aboriginal people (western, and that  one homemaker figure set from the 70s)

 the depiction of native islanders being savage and making them the main antagonists in the 1994 pirates theme 

Lando’s first minifigure in 2003

Sadly the list goes on, but what is truly disturbing is that TLG proudly displays this in their DK books, especially Lego minifigure: year by year a visual history from 2013, where nothing has been pointed out that is offensive 

 

[The Island Chronicles]

1 hour ago, Aanchir said:

It's definitely a big change to see so much emphasis on buildings, roads, and scenery in the City theme! Less than a decade ago, one of the most frequent complaints about the City theme was that it focused much too heavily on vehicles and not enough on buildings and scenery that you could actually build a substantial-looking City layout from. For example:

And I'm especially happy about some of those buildings being ones like a school, hospital, bank, observatory, lifeguard station, and grocery store — stuff that was typically rare or non-existent in past years of City, World City, or even Town sets, and that I'd have been reluctant to even get my hopes up for a lot of the time. Certainly, there's still an abundance of Fire and Police stuff like we've come to expect, but even the new fire and police stations are small enough that they no longer dominate the entire City range to the extent that they often did in the past.

Between this year's and last year's building and scenery offerings, I don't think there's been a better time for layout builders in the entire history of the City theme. Especially if the rumored train assortment this summer includes a station platform and other railway buildings/structures. And all this stuff also has me eagerly looking forward to what future years of City sets might offer!

If I have one regret, it's that all this stuff has unfortunately coincided with my marriage and move to Canada. Although this might be the ideal time for me to finally consider getting into themes like Friends or City to build a "tabletown" of my own, the apartment I share with my wife and our two cats doesn't really have much room for a unified layout of that sort. I can only hope that these emerging trends in the City theme remain stable enough that when I do have a better opportunity to take the plunge on that sort of thing, there will still be enough of these sorts of sets available for a "starter layout" that I won't need to dig into LEGO's back catalog for stuff I missed out on.

The biggest complaints that I saw with Lego City sets were the fact that it emphasized police too much. Personally it's no big deal to me as I can just rebel against the expectations and buy what I like off of the internet. Like you said, the police and fire stuff aren't emphasized like they used to be. They're brought more on an "equal to" standpoint than which one dominates more. Matter of fact, in 2021 - which that winter wave kinda shocked me, I actually thought they had done away with subthemes. Nope! They just merged fire and police together so two subthemes that were once two separate ones are now one. Makes sense given that the two main characters of City Adventures are a cop and a firefighter. Downsizing by bringing the two most popular subjects in City together makes plenty room for anything to brought into City. Car dealership anyone? But I have to admit. City is way better in the 2020s than it was in the 2010s. 

BTW! I didn't know you were married. Congratulations! 

Edited February 12, 2022 by Poodabricks

[Peppermint_M]

1 hour ago, Wolfpackfan99 said:

Lando’s first minifigure in 2003

That was something of a difficult one though, if they had made the figure yellow like all the others, it would have been deemed a bad move and "Whitewashing" a figure. I think the contemporary basketball figures that were yellow but also had features that could be called caricature (If people are going to be offended by the pokemon Jinx, who was based on a fashion trend in Japan, I think they would also find the Basketball figures like this offensive)  was also a wrong move. While I am not a big user of fleshtone figures, it is good to have figures that represent the diversity in skintone that we have IRL.

[Wolfpackfan99]

7 minutes ago, Peppermint_M said:

That was something of a difficult one though, if they had made the figure yellow like all the others, it would have been deemed a bad move and "Whitewashing" a figure. I think the contemporary basketball figures that were yellow but also had features that could be called caricature (If people are going to be offended by the pokemon Jinx, who was based on a fashion trend in Japan, I think they would also find the Basketball figures like this offensive)  was also a wrong move. While I am not a big user of fleshtone figures, it is good to have figures that represent the diversity in skintone that we have IRL.

Valid point. The way I see it is that TLG knew they weren’t going to win either way, but that was 2003, if they did that today (especially with BLM and cancel culture), I’m pretty sure no one in Billund would make it out alive 

 author’s note: I fully support Black Lives Matter and am hopeful for a more safe and more equal future 

Edited February 12, 2022 by Wolfpackfan99

[Peppermint_M]

Which is why it is great that there are so many felshtone figures now, to fill that gap. Though, not happy that I do not have many women "of colour" (I hate that term, but it is currently still accepted, so whatevs) available. A whole 'nother kettle of fish though.

I stick to the yellow figures unless it is a SciFi build, and then everyone mingles.

[Wolfpackfan99]

6 minutes ago, Peppermint_M said:

Which is why it is great that there are so many felshtone figures now, to fill that gap. Though, not happy that I do not have many women "of colour" (I hate that term, but it is currently still accepted, so whatevs) available. A whole 'nother kettle of fish though.

I stick to the yellow figures unless it is a SciFi build, and then everyone mingles.

Yeah it’s been brought up before (I actually read all 36 pages, I have this weird ability to remember a lot of details and other stuff related to Lego, I’ve done it a couple times here already), but mostly the general consensus is that pre-2003 licensed minifigures were great because they could be used for their original purpose, or they could be used for custom minifigures and not have the character/actor they are portraying or representing being super obvious. Yeah it just sucks that realistic skin tones are restricted to licensed themes, because I think having both white and black minifigures is cool (I don’t know but I always like when I see white people and black people being friends or cooperating because to me it says to me that it can be possible to be equal, and to not be afraid of each other, from a white man himself, it inspires me) I mean my collection has I believe three black head pieces, then I have a billion white head pieces (stupid clone troopers).

[Wolfpackfan99]

4 hours ago, Aanchir said:

It's definitely a big change to see so much emphasis on buildings, roads, and scenery in the City theme! Less than a decade ago, one of the most frequent complaints about the City theme was that it focused much too heavily on vehicles and not enough on buildings and scenery that you could actually build a substantial-looking City layout from. For example:

And I'm especially happy about some of those buildings being ones like a school, hospital, bank, observatory, lifeguard station, and grocery store — stuff that was typically rare or non-existent in past years of City, World City, or even Town sets, and that I'd have been reluctant to even get my hopes up for a lot of the time. Certainly, there's still an abundance of Fire and Police stuff like we've come to expect, but even the new fire and police stations are small enough that they no longer dominate the entire City range to the extent that they often did in the past.

Between this year's and last year's building and scenery offerings, I don't think there's been a better time for layout builders in the entire history of the City theme. Especially if the rumored train assortment this summer includes a station platform and other railway buildings/structures. And all this stuff also has me eagerly looking forward to what future years of City sets might offer!

If I have one regret, it's that all this stuff has unfortunately coincided with my marriage and move to Canada. Although this might be the ideal time for me to finally consider getting into themes like Friends or City to build a "tabletown" of my own, the apartment I share with my wife and our two cats doesn't really have much room for a unified layout of that sort. I can only hope that these emerging trends in the City theme remain stable enough that when I do have a better opportunity to take the plunge on that sort of thing, there will still be enough of these sorts of sets available for a "starter layout" that I won't need to dig into LEGO's back catalog for stuff I missed out on.

Oh also congratulations on getting married!

[Ondra]

23 hours ago, Wolfpackfan99 said:

Another thing too is that TLG has never actually made any public apologies regarding past sets and minifigures that were derogatory and offensive like:

every set depicting Aboriginal people (western, and that  one homemaker figure set from the 70s)

 the depiction of native islanders being savage and making them the main antagonists in the 1994 pirates theme 

Lando’s first minifigure in 2003

Sadly the list goes on, but what is truly disturbing is that TLG proudly displays this in their DK books, especially Lego minifigure: year by year a visual history from 2013, where nothing has been pointed out that is offensive 

 

Please stop doing this, there is no need for apologizing for 30. old sets based on fantasy land.

There is no need for apologizing for anything made long ago in different era or deleting or changing history... This is only path for new totality!

 

None of these sets that I used to play made me feel bad, but I see some are upset even looking in catalogs they never had in hands...

 

If you are offended by old plastic figure, there is another bigger problem on horizon.

[Wolfpackfan99]

30 minutes ago, Ondra said:

Please stop doing this, there is no need for apologizing for 30. old sets based on fantasy land.

There is no need for apologizing for anything made long ago in different era or deleting or changing history... This is only path for new totality!

 

None of these sets that I used to play made me feel bad, but I see some are upset even looking in catalogs they never had in hands...

 

If you are offended by old plastic figure, there is another bigger problem on horizon.

Look buddy, some of us actually live in countries where racism and discrimination against aboriginal peoples is a big issue that comes with a lot of apologizing (in Canada, we have a lot to do to heal the multigenerational trauma of residential schools). I never said that we had to totally erase it from history, I meant that TLG should apologize and use it for a learning opportunity so we don’t make the same mistakes again. Yeah even though I didn’t play with them or have a catalog, I still know about it, even if I wasn’t there, that’s like saying that we can’t say the nazi’s were evil because we weren’t there in the Second World War, yeah I know it’s just a little plastic figure, but not acknowledging that the little plastic figure was racist, isn’t really helping.

[Ondra]

13 minutes ago, Wolfpackfan99 said:

Look buddy, some of us actually live in countries where racism and discrimination against aboriginal peoples is a big issue that comes with a lot of apologizing (in Canada, we have a lot to do to heal the multigenerational trauma of residential schools). I never said that we had to totally erase it from history, I meant that TLG should apologize and use it for a learning opportunity so we don’t make the same mistakes again. Yeah even though I didn’t play with them or have a catalog, I still know about it, even if I wasn’t there, that’s like saying that we can’t say the nazi’s were evil because we weren’t there in the Second World War, yeah I know it’s just a little plastic figure, but not acknowledging that the little plastic figure was racist, isn’t really helping.

Im not your buddy and I never will be.

We dont have these problems here? Why? Because we never had slaves and colonies, so we dont need to apologize to anybody... So I dont feel remorse of any of my ancestors.

Also politics in Canada now just needs to listen to some juicy truck horns, because there are some free countries(Yeah I live in it, luckily at the end) that court made covidpass discrimination and politics in fear promptly shut it down. This is now most important thing to handle right everywhere in the world, not 30. old lego set.

Thats sign of totality of sake of safety...

Edited February 13, 2022 by Ondra

[Clone OPatra]

Let's stick to the somewhat LEGO-related discussion and move away from / leave out the strictly world-politics part. Thanks!

[Wolfpackfan99]

7 minutes ago, Ondra said:

Im not your buddy and I never will be.

We dont have these problems here? Why? Because we never had slaves and colonies, so we dont need to apologize to anybody... So I dont feel remorse of any of my ancestors.

Also politics in Canada now just needs to listen to some juicy truck horns, because there are some free countries(Yeah I live in it, luckily at the end) that court made covidpass discrimination and politics in fear promptly shut it down. This is now most important thing to handle right everywhere in the world, not 30. old lego set.

Thats sign of totality of sake of safety...

When I said “look buddy” it was meant as an opening taunt (somebody needs to grow some more brain cells). Yeah I understand that your country didn’t have colonialism in it (residential schools were a genocidal assimilation of aboriginal children, not slaves, but there were slaves in Canada too), also yeah the convoy is a stupid pile of crap, but I still think making amends is important. Why do keep saying all this crap about “totality”? I don’t really care if you want communism, we have democracy, I don’t know if you’ve heard of it, it’s when a country is free and is not oppressed by a commie like you.

[Ondra]

3 minutes ago, Wolfpackfan99 said:

When I said “look buddy” it was meant as an opening taunt (somebody needs to grow some more brain cells). Yeah I understand that your country didn’t have colonialism in it (residential schools were a genocidal assimilation of aboriginal children, not slaves, but there were slaves in Canada too), also yeah the convoy is a stupid pile of crap, but I still think making amends is important. Why do keep saying all this crap about “totality”? I don’t really care if you want communism, we have democracy, I don’t know if you’ve heard of it, it’s when a country is free and is not oppressed by a commie like you.

He were under 40 years of communists, and we know when supposed democracy is turning into totality. We can luckily read between lines, that can be only teached probably under strict regime...

But hey its democracy, so nothing will turn out wrong.. Right? Grow some brain cells and read some George Orwell's book...

 

[Clone OPatra]

12 minutes ago, Clone OPatra said:

Let's stick to the somewhat LEGO-related discussion and move away from / leave out the strictly world-politics part. Thanks!

I literally just posted telling you to not continue that discussion.

Stop now or private chats it is.

[Wolfpackfan99]

2 minutes ago, Ondra said:

He were under 40 years of communists, and we know when supposed democracy is turning into totality. We can luckily read between lines, that can be only teached probably under strict regime...

But hey its democracy, so nothing will turn out wrong.. Right? Grow some brain cells and read some George Orwell's book...

 

Valid point, sometimes it does take someone who knows the pattern, strangely enough, I was actually reading Animal Farm on Friday (very interesting take on communism through the satire genre).

Yeah looking back on this, I really shouldn’t have taken that so out of context, my apologies for any derogatory comments I made, I get really riled up on the political stuff, and sometimes don’t think, I am glad however, that I know that people who have been oppressed are sounding the alarm on the convoy.

Honestly I’ve said this to many people, I saw the newsfeed at parliament hill, I heard people screaming to overthrow our government, I saw people deface proud Canadian symbols, I said to friends and family, we have proof of treason in front of our own eyes, Trudeau should enact the war measures act, and arrest and detain the protesters for treason, but still, the government does nothing.

[Wolfpackfan99]

21 minutes ago, Clone OPatra said:

I literally just posted telling you to not continue that discussion.

Stop now or private chats it is.

Alright I’m going to stop my political rants on here, obviously there’s a time and a place for this, so let’s just go back to Lego.

[Ondra]

39 minutes ago, Clone OPatra said:

I literally just posted telling you to not continue that discussion.

Stop now or private chats it is.

Im so sorry, I completely missed this. I was only just after quotes. I apologize.

[Feuer Zug]

Jack Stone.

I'm going to run and hide now.

[Ondra]

Lego store timed exclusivity of adult sets are pointless. They are here only to maximize profit for lego.

If I wait for few months, I get nice sale of these sets in regular online stores. That sale is better than any gift given...

 

Also that new Jurassic Park sets T-Rex breakout is weirdly put into Adults category but that set is clearly for playing. I dont see reason to give this set adult treatment, I will be only harder to get for most fans...

 

[Wolfpackfan99]

8 hours ago, Feuer Zug said:

Jack Stone.

I'm going to run and hide now.

You better run, that figure of jack stone still gives me nightmares.

[Clone OPatra]

11 hours ago, Feuer Zug said:

Jack Stone.

I'm going to run and hide now.

Personally I saw no redeeming qualities of the Jack Stone sets (which is a normal, popular opinion), but I did like aspects of the 4+ Pirates sets. Fantastic accessories in cool colours, for instance.

Obviously they were a let down for fans waiting for the resurgence of a true pirates line, but they had cool stuff going for them.