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7 hours ago, MAVERICK26 said:

I don't really get your argument. What would they replace it with? What sort of backlash would there be? How many fans would they lose?

They'd probably lose close to 50% of their range within a few years. If they insult Disney by unilaterally dropping one of their largest properties, Disney is likely to refuse any new licenses for existing and new properties, instead moving them all to another manufacturer. The anti-license fans would probably be happy for a while until LEGO fades away becoming a second class company, replaced by the new number 1 block company that has a Disney partnership and a large portion of the shelves in toy stores and toy sections of supermarkets.

Whereas catering for fans of both licensed and unlicensed products,  producing 100s of sets each year for both camps, they retain their overall market share.

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We live in a time of culture empires. Disney being the biggest one. Would be interesting to see with what creative alternatives TLG would come up instead of SW, HP, Marvel and so on. Especially Marvel nowdays is like every single theme; asian, oriental, middle age, modern, sci-fi, monster, magic, animals - everything.

But I doubt they'd be as sucessful.

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9 hours ago, MAVERICK26 said:

I don't really get your argument. What would they replace it with? What sort of backlash would there be? How many fans would they lose?

This thread is not about defensible positions - it is about unpopular opinions which don't have to (and often don't) have any logical backing in the real world.

I would love for Lego to move completely away from Disney and work on supporting smaller IPs through a lot of one offs - random tv shows, popular books, cult classic, as well as doing more non-IP based sets - everything from cavemen through to futuristic spacemen (with a small s). It would make no financial sense at all, but I would certainly enjoy the company more, even though a large proportion of the sets would not interest me. Keeping in mind that large proportion would be replacing other sets not of interest to me anyway.

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My unpopular opinion is that LEGO should keep doing what they are doing. It seems to be working.

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1 hour ago, timemail said:

This thread is not about defensible positions - it is about unpopular opinions which don't have to (and often don't) have any logical backing in the real world

Agreed.

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3 hours ago, MAB said:

My unpopular opinion is that LEGO should keep doing what they are doing. It seems to be working.

Agreed.

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Lego IDEAS is just marketing campaign, statistic data for lego without benefits for fans.

I see lots of non lego website that have stories about successful 10 000 run for some ideas sets. It acts like 10 000 means instant set and people are interested in lego for no reason based on this.

Lego alone is probably getting hefty amount of data what they need to do for next years. They are getting market statistic for free...

 

Also based on what lego picks just make me interested really what is interesting on some particular sets they are mostly really pricier and uninspiring aka dust catchers.

It would be really fair, that lego just say we are not interested in trains for example, because works on these mocs that will not be picked for sure is not easy task and they are just wasting resources of voters and MOCers.

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The language used to describe lego sets is quite funny.

A set I like that sits on a shelf = a great display piece.

A set I don't like that sits on somebody else's shelf = an uninspiring dust catcher. 

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34 minutes ago, MAB said:

The language used to describe lego sets is quite funny.

A set I like that sits on a shelf = a great display piece.

A set I don't like that sits on somebody else's shelf = an uninspiring dust catcher. 

And a set that's super-playable and encourages getting it down from the shelf can alternatively be positive ("swooshable", "functional", etc.) or negative ("gimmicky", a mere "playset", etc.). In that case the language used to praise/disparage is less consistent but once again ultimately tends to boil down more to the personal preference of whoever's commenting than to any consistent strengths or weaknesses of the design.

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22 hours ago, MAB said:

The language used to describe lego sets is quite funny.

A set I like that sits on a shelf = a great display piece.

A set I don't like that sits on somebody else's shelf = an uninspiring dust catcher. 

A set that sits on the store shelf = Vidiyo

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Unpopular opinion: Vidiyo introduced a lot of fun and unique figures and designs way better than recent CMF offerings, but has been highly let down by the blind-box and an app no one was into.

If LEGO had gone the way of Battle Royal instead of music (even with the same figure designs) then they could even have stood a chance at catching Fortnite fans attention.

I do not play Fortnite, but I love the random characters involved in the game.

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I think AFOL community and Afol youtube community is full of manchilds and cry babies and weirdos, that dont know anything outside lego bubble. There are mostly fellas that are into consumerism and cant build anything without instructions.

Im ashamed when somebody call me afol, I just found it like insult....

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Friends is probably the best theme that LEGO makes. The sets look great, they are fun and interesting to build, and they are fabulous play sets. City is boring and overpriced in comparison. While I personally prefer Creator Expert, if there was only one then allowed, it should be Friends.

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7 hours ago, Ondra said:

I think AFOL community and Afol youtube community is full of manchilds and cry babies and weirdos, that dont know anything outside lego bubble. There are mostly fellas that are into consumerism and cant build anything without instructions.

Im ashamed when somebody call me afol, I just found it like insult....

While there are some who fit that description, I wouldn't lump everyone into the same category. I definitely avoid YouTubers (and others) who complain when a previously exclusive minifig from an expensive set becomes more widely available, or can't understand why a 7+ set might have less detail than a UCS or 10,000 piece MOC.

5 hours ago, RichardGoring said:

Friends is probably the best theme that LEGO makes. The sets look great, they are fun and interesting to build, and they are fabulous play sets. City is boring and overpriced in comparison. While I personally prefer Creator Expert, if there was only one then allowed, it should be Friends.

My niece is into Friends, so I've been watching videos to keep up with new releases. I like the variety of builds and the amount of detail and features they get into their buildings, and just the fact that it is building/structure focused as opposed to City which seems to be predominantly vehicles (and the buildings they do make are mostly fire and police based).

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10 hours ago, Peppermint_M said:

Unpopular opinion: Vidiyo introduced a lot of fun and unique figures and designs way better than recent CMF offerings, but has been highly let down by the blind-box and an app no one was into.

If LEGO had gone the way of Battle Royal instead of music (even with the same figure designs) then they could even have stood a chance at catching Fortnite fans attention.

I do not play Fortnite, but I love the random characters involved in the game.

That just may have changed with the new announcement with Lego and Epic Games

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3 hours ago, MaximillianRebo said:

While there are some who fit that description, I wouldn't lump everyone into the same category. I definitely avoid YouTubers (and others) who complain when a previously exclusive minifig from an expensive set becomes more widely available, or can't understand why a 7+ set might have less detail than a UCS or 10,000 piece MOC.

 

Im not participating in many internet communities, but Im sure to say that Afol one is worst of all. Sadly It was all the way even in first years of internet forums back in 2000s . It gets worse with licensed themes, because many of licensed theme participants are not interested in lego at all. Big problem is that these folks, forget that lego is primary children's toys. Always has been.

 

Biggest paradox is that most chill and mature forum is about Grand theft auto game worst of all are toys forums.

 

Posted
3 hours ago, zoth33 said:

That just may have changed with the new announcement with Lego and Epic Games

I wonder if it will result in that. It seems counter to the "Mission Statement" kind of thing TLG has about war toys... Though licenses are always the exception.

Maybe TLG noticed that some of the most popular Bootleg Minifigures that are not IP they license is the Fortnite figures (I say popular by assumption, they are very prevalent amongst the usual fake Superheroes and Ninjago.

Then again, it might be so Epic can but LEGO bricks and figures into Fortnite, to TLG's benefit. It is one of the most popular "metaverse" online spaces, having had actual concerts happen there.

Time will tell. I hope I can get a Leviathan figure out of this :sweet: 

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11 hours ago, RichardGoring said:

City is boring and overpriced in comparison. While I personally prefer Creator Expert, if there was only one then allowed, it should be Friends.

The older City sets were actually good. The newer ones are the ones that need serious improvements. Sometimes, I wish I never brought them. 

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7 hours ago, Peppermint_M said:

I wonder if it will result in that. It seems counter to the "Mission Statement" kind of thing TLG has about war toys... Though licenses are always the exception.

Maybe TLG noticed that some of the most popular Bootleg Minifigures that are not IP they license is the Fortnite figures (I say popular by assumption, they are very prevalent amongst the usual fake Superheroes and Ninjago.

Then again, it might be so Epic can but LEGO bricks and figures into Fortnite, to TLG's benefit. It is one of the most popular "metaverse" online spaces, having had actual concerts happen there.

Time will tell. I hope I can get a Leviathan figure out of this :sweet: 

Yeah I thought it was an interesting move we will just have to wait and see where this goes.  

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7 hours ago, Peppermint_M said:

Then again, it might be so Epic can but LEGO bricks and figures into Fortnite, to TLG's benefit. It is one of the most popular "metaverse" online spaces, having had actual concerts happen there.

Not to mention, Epic have the Unreal Engine, which is very suited for putting a lot of objects in a scene (unreal engine 5 nanites), LEGO blocks should be very suitable for that. 

Epic isn't just fortnite but maybe LEGO is working on a new attempt of a minecraft/roblox kind of environment "safe for kids" .

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1 hour ago, TeriXeri said:

Not to mention, Epic have the Unreal Engine, which is very suited for putting a lot of objects in a scene (unreal engine 5 nanites), LEGO blocks should be very suitable for that. 

Epic isn't just fortnite but maybe LEGO is working on a new attempt of a minecraft/roblox kind of environment "safe for kids" .

Yeah, my guess is that the Lego/Epic collab will be a new, "kid-safe" game (sort of like what Lego recently did with "social media" with the Lego Life app, or another attempt at what they tried to achieve with Lego Universe). I doubt putting things into Fortnite is the objective, given that having Lego characters pick up/use realistic/semi-realistic weaponry would feel a bit like a bridge too far. Though a new game property developed by Epic might certainly have "easter eggs" alluding to some of Epic's other properties/franchises.

39 minutes ago, Poodabricks said:

Another possible unpopular opinion: animal moulds are better than buildable animals. They are not only cheaper to buy, but they also fit into my town better. I wonder if they have a deer mould? It would be nice if they did.

For me it varies. I love wildlife molds like the new kittens and squirrels or even larger ones like the elephants and bears City has had, and loved the molded animal characters in Elves. But for things like the Ninjago dragons, which are the core subjects of a large number of sets, I get a lot more out of the varied and interesting builds than I would out of getting a bunch of samey molded dragons year after year. For me it's largely a size thing—if an animal is big enough that you can achieve a high enough standard of detail and better articulation with a brick-built figure than you could with a molded creature, I tend to prefer brick-built. If an animal is so small that it'd look unnaturally blocky or lifeless if constructed out of bricks, I tend to prefer molded animals. And there's wiggle room in between, where for example a brick-built animal with a molded head (like the larger Elves dragons and creatures, or some Ninjago creatures) can capture the best of both worlds.

 

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