Unpopular Opinions about LEGO

[Kim-Kwang-Seok]

6 minutes ago, danth said:

What, you mean every ATM and bank in real life isn't being actively burglarized at all times, by criminals in Hamburglar masks and prison jumpsuits under their jackets?

Of course. Just saying that among these things now almost every set contains female figures. I remember the 1st sets with 3 figs of which 2 were female. Was revolutionary, now it happens quite often. There was one Ninjago set (aimed clearly at young men/boys) with a female Android-Samurai and 2 female ninja, fighting against a female villain figure to free Lloyd (the male protagonist). That's a huge improvement over whole waves of only 1 female figure in ALL the wave.

Edit: in the same Ninjago wave there were 2 more new female characters appearing in multiple sets and 2 more iterations of female figures from the set described above. Sounds like big improvements to me!

Edited May 7, 2022 by Kim-Kwang-Seok

[The Island Chronicles]

On 5/6/2022 at 3:11 AM, Vindicare said:

Yup. 3438 McDonalds Restaurant, 1999. Rinky dink building that served as a drive thru with one table & chairs. 

I remember that set. Now i try not to put too many real life references in my town because I don't want it to confuse people. But the McDonald's is something I'd put in my town for set dressing purposes. I quite stories about the buildings in my town, thus the want for certain types of buildings or job representation in City. But the McDs wouldn't be very important. So it would really just be a set dresser. 

Edited May 7, 2022 by Poodabricks

[danth]

27 minutes ago, Kim-Kwang-Seok said:

Of course. Just saying that among these things now almost every set contains female figures.

Totally agree BTW, more women is a good thing.

25 minutes ago, Poodabricks said:

I remember that set.

Wow that driver is going way too fast; hope the poor Micky D's guy doesn't lose an arm in the exchange.

[williejm]

1 hour ago, danth said:

What, you mean every ATM and bank in real life isn't being actively burglarized at all times, by criminals in Hamburglar masks and prison jumpsuits under their jackets?

It would be much easier if all the crooks in real life wore masks and stripy shirts tbqh

Edited May 7, 2022 by williejm

[Peppermint_M]

Not going to complain about more Women in LEGO. I remember the days I used a permi-pen to add ringlets onto a classic Sunglasses head to make Bobette. 
My sister and I called figures with this head Bob.

A hasty scribble of hair onto the head and we had Bobette and she was a pivotal character in our games. I think I will have to find Bobette in my figures again...

[icm]

@Peppermint_M - My brother in law Bob looks an awful lot like that.  But this little guy will always be Bob to me:

https://brickset.com/minifigs/cas010/dark-forest-forestman-4-brown-legs

 

[Peppermint_M]

Isn't it great how so many of us have a Bob. I couldn't even say how or why we decided on Bob as the name for that generic print, but Bob he was. 

 

[TeriXeri]

The lack of hair pieces bothered me more at the time, especially 80s, as with most faces still using smileys, hairpiece was an important factor.

Basicly every time a figure had a hat/cap/helmet there was no hairpiece, thankfully LEGO finally changed that in the last couple years, took a while but they did it.

90s introduced more faces with lipstick or stubble/moustaches, but the majority of figures still had caps/helmets in Town.

That said, this was my favorite figure for a while  , I never had a paradisa set but seeing this figure in a train set was nice.

 

Edited May 8, 2022 by TeriXeri

[living_off_lego]

un popular opinion:(some)afols are some of the most annoying groups in the lego community.

(i know that eurobricks is an afol dominaed forum, but i need to voice my opinion because some afols are really trying me.)

I remember the week that friends was revealed, everywhere I looked i saw that everyone was complaining about how this "girly" theme was proof that lego was executing their employees behind the Wendys next to their headquarters, friends received an embarrassing amount of hate, and it still has, even to this day, on here, youtube, Reddit, everywhere I look I see another AFOL complaining about how one set released in 1995, that was a store exclusive, was better than anything that lego had ever, and will ever put out. this is absurd, I know that people are entitled to their own opinion,and i respect everyones opinion  but when is it too much. ive been in this community for around 8 ish years, and i see afol after afol complaining about the next inovation on legos pallete, from what ive seen, i think that afols are scared of anything that challenges their poor poor starwars and creator expert, that dont get enough love and that dots ws going to out sell them :(" fully knowing that the day that the mouse canncels lego starwars will never come, oh and the comments about "no one asked for this" or how about " they think this will sell?" instead of seeing the new pieces and their potential, (take for example all of the AMAZING new hair pieces friends has recived, that we would have never gotten if lego would have bought into the afols and canceled friends, its a bit odd, dont you think, so many afols, (mostly men from what ive seen)ganging together to take down a theme, a series of sets, that they arent required to buy, that alot of times have spectacular pieces, just because its "girly" and "pink" witch isint a bad thing might i add, its so odd, and i have no idea why they do it, its like the idea of a girly pink theme challenges their inner manly hood(not being sexist just trying to get my point across, people that dont identify as men can still be weirdly negative about thems too) like having a set with a pink super market makes them fear for what the lego group has come to, fearing that their singular set from 1995, is becoming irrelavent, that their opinion is becoming irrelavent,  and thats why they go after girly themes

 

notes:

not only girly themes do negative afols go after, theyre just the most popular and covered item.( this also applys to afols/tfols)

i am a minor, please keep that in mind if you plan on replying to my comments.

i am not  trying to come after anyone, i am simply drawing lines and making comments, if you feel as though i am coming after you i am sorry.

i am not going after all afols, as a collective, most of you guys are cool, but some are extremly negative and i feel as though it needs to be talked about.

(anyways this took a while to write out, and i hope you appreciate it :)

[MAB]

I read quite a few lego forums and I find there are lots of positive comments about Friends these days, especially concerning the range of builds and their designs. These seem to get more love than City these days. Of course, the colours and minidolls still get some criticism but I think that is mainly due to incompatibility with other City style ranges. When it first came out, quite a bit of the driticism was from women rather than just men, due to the stereotypical nature, both stereotypical roles and colours. But the roles have changed, with sports, sciences, space, tech and so on and not just shopping and spas.

[The Island Chronicles]

On 5/7/2022 at 1:28 PM, danth said:

Wow that driver is going way too fast; hope the poor Micky D's guy doesn't lose an arm in the exchange.

Yeah! They've put a new meaning to.....

FAST FOOD!!!!!

[zoth33]

5 hours ago, living_off_lego said:

un popular opinion:(some)afols are some of the most annoying groups in the lego community.

(i know that eurobricks is an afol dominaed forum, but i need to voice my opinion because some afols are really trying me.)

I remember the week that friends was revealed, everywhere I looked i saw that everyone was complaining about how this "girly" theme was proof that lego was executing their employees behind the Wendys next to their headquarters, friends received an embarrassing amount of hate, and it still has, even to this day, on here, youtube, Reddit, everywhere I look I see another AFOL complaining about how one set released in 1995, that was a store exclusive, was better than anything that lego had ever, and will ever put out. this is absurd, I know that people are entitled to their own opinion,and i respect everyones opinion  but when is it too much. ive been in this community for around 8 ish years, and i see afol after afol complaining about the next inovation on legos pallete, from what ive seen, i think that afols are scared of anything that challenges their poor poor starwars and creator expert, that dont get enough love and that dots ws going to out sell them :(" fully knowing that the day that the mouse canncels lego starwars will never come, oh and the comments about "no one asked for this" or how about " they think this will sell?" instead of seeing the new pieces and their potential, (take for example all of the AMAZING new hair pieces friends has recived, that we would have never gotten if lego would have bought into the afols and canceled friends, its a bit odd, dont you think, so many afols, (mostly men from what ive seen)ganging together to take down a theme, a series of sets, that they arent required to buy, that alot of times have spectacular pieces, just because its "girly" and "pink" witch isint a bad thing might i add, its so odd, and i have no idea why they do it, its like the idea of a girly pink theme challenges their inner manly hood(not being sexist just trying to get my point across, people that dont identify as men can still be weirdly negative about thems too) like having a set with a pink super market makes them fear for what the lego group has come to, fearing that their singular set from 1995, is becoming irrelavent, that their opinion is becoming irrelavent,  and thats why they go after girly themes

 

notes:

not only girly themes do negative afols go after, theyre just the most popular and covered item.( this also applys to afols/tfols)

i am a minor, please keep that in mind if you plan on replying to my comments.

i am not  trying to come after anyone, i am simply drawing lines and making comments, if you feel as though i am coming after you i am sorry.

i am not going after all afols, as a collective, most of you guys are cool, but some are extremly negative and i feel as though it needs to be talked about.

(anyways this took a while to write out, and i hope you appreciate it :)

This is interesting because there are some Afol's here that really liked the Elves line including myself and have several sets.  I think a lot of the complaints with the friends line is the animal molds being to cartoony and they don't fit in with the city or regular system lego.  Also the minidolls aren't as customizable as minifigs so there is some complaints about that.  I do find that friends have some nice parts and some of the animals are ok.  This just isn't a theme I am personally interested in but do find that it works really well for their target demographic.  Anything that brings new parts and colors is a plus in my opinion.  Those people you speak of are probably just a few that don't have anything better to do I wouldn't worry to much.  As I've said in the past you can't please everyone.  I really enjoy castle/fantasy and there a lot of fans not happy until recently with blacksmith shop and the 3in1 castle about lego's willingness to make castle sets.  But I've actually found interesting parts and minifigs in other themes to fill in the several year gap between castle sets.  Like I said before Elves had some nice dragons and parts.  I even have the Elvenstar tree really nice build.  I take a lot from Ninjago and Monkie kids especially the dragons and a lot of the figs are useful.  Even some of the super hero stuff especially the Marvel side has great figs that can be used for customization for fantasy like green goblin, outriders, chitauri, sakarran, atlanteans, etc.  Harry Potter even has some great elements and figs.  I know from what I've seen many don't seem to mind friends theme at all I think more of the complaints are with the friendified animals and the lack of overall customization and moveability of the minidolls.  There are some nice minidolls from the elves line unfortunately I don't have those figs.  But I really think it's a small number of people you are encountering that probably post a lot more often.  

[living_off_lego]

55 minutes ago, zoth33 said:

This is interesting because there are some Afol's here that really liked the Elves line including myself and have several sets.  I think a lot of the complaints with the friends line is the animal molds being to cartoony and they don't fit in with the city or regular system lego.  Also the minidolls aren't as customizable as minifigs so there is some complaints about that.  I do find that friends have some nice parts and some of the animals are ok.  This just isn't a theme I am personally interested in but do find that it works really well for their target demographic.  Anything that brings new parts and colors is a plus in my opinion.  Those people you speak of are probably just a few that don't have anything better to do I wouldn't worry to much.  As I've said in the past you can't please everyone.  I really enjoy castle/fantasy and there a lot of fans not happy until recently with blacksmith shop and the 3in1 castle about lego's willingness to make castle sets.  But I've actually found interesting parts and minifigs in other themes to fill in the several year gap between castle sets.  Like I said before Elves had some nice dragons and parts.  I even have the Elvenstar tree really nice build.  I take a lot from Ninjago and Monkie kids especially the dragons and a lot of the figs are useful.  Even some of the super hero stuff especially the Marvel side has great figs that can be used for customization for fantasy like green goblin, outriders, chitauri, sakarran, atlanteans, etc.  Harry Potter even has some great elements and figs.  I know from what I've seen many don't seem to mind friends theme at all I think more of the complaints are with the friendified animals and the lack of overall customization and moveability of the minidolls.  There are some nice minidolls from the elves line unfortunately I don't have those figs.  But I really think it's a small number of people you are encountering that probably post a lot more often.  

i like your take on customization, though id say that minidolls could become something more desirable if they were more articulated(wrist/kneejoints) one thought ive had in the past is that maybe the lego designers sacraficed articulation, for a more doll like asthetic, and thats why theyre so limited in mobility 

6 hours ago, MAB said:

I read quite a few lego forums and I find there are lots of positive comments about Friends these days, especially concerning the range of builds and their designs. These seem to get more love than City these days. Of course, the colours and minidolls still get some criticism but I think that is mainly due to incompatibility with other City style ranges. When it first came out, quite a bit of the driticism was from women rather than just men, due to the stereotypical nature, both stereotypical roles and colours. But the roles have changed, with sports, sciences, space, tech and so on and not just shopping and spas.

thats something i forgot to mention in my statment, yes friends was(and still is mainly targeted twards girls) and it was filled with alot of steryotypes surrounding women at its launch, but i think that it has died down ALOT now a days,where theyre leaning to more stem based topics, like space, and not just focusing on steryotypical "new girl in a big world" esqe themes. 

[zoth33]

3 minutes ago, living_off_lego said:

i like your take on customization, though id say that minidolls could become something more desirable if they were more articulated(wrist/kneejoints) one thought ive had in the past is that maybe the lego designers sacraficed articulation, for a more doll like asthetic, and thats why theyre so limited in mobility 

thats something i forgot to mention in my statment, yes friends was(and still is mainly targeted twards girls) and it was filled with alot of steryotypes surrounding women at its launch, but i think that it has died down ALOT now a days,where theyre leaning to more stem based topics, like space, and not just focusing on steryotypical "new girl in a big world" esqe themes. 

Yeah that's my main complaint as well the regular minifigs are just more posable especially the legs.  As for the rest of it there are people in every forum on here that complain about their favorite or non-favorite themes it's just something that some people like to do.  

[MAB]

8 hours ago, zoth33 said:

Yeah that's my main complaint as well the regular minifigs are just more posable especially the legs.  As for the rest of it there are people in every forum on here that complain about their favorite or non-favorite themes it's just something that some people like to do.  

It is interesting to see how girls of different ages play with them. With my extremely unrepresentative sample of one (my daughter), she wasn't really into LEGO that much when <5 year old even though her older brother had it. But did get interested in Friends and later Elves. When playing with them, she wasn't that bothered by the building experience but much more the role play afterwards. They could really have been any toy brand with a pre-built house or boat or whatever. She didn't seem to worry about articulation at all, and would just "bob bob bob" the figures along and sit them down or stand them up. But she would nearly always pick up a minidoll rather than a minifig. Whereas now she is older ~10 years old, she does take note of the posability of the figures much more and has virtually wiped out all the minidolls in favour of minifigs, but retains the Friends builds, along with new builds she has created. On this very small sample, it seems to me that minidolls do a very good job for attracting younger girls but that there are issues with them as they grow older. Not that minifigures are perfect in any sense, but no doubt the posability and the customization possibilities help here. A downside of Friends parts is due to one of their benefits - a range of skin tones. It is great multiple skin colours are represented but at the same time that really limits the ability to customise them as nearly all the parts have a specific skin tone when compared to minifigure parts. Of course, minifig parts are often yellow skin (for in-house ranges) which helps create some uniformity but even then legs and torsos often don't have skin tone printed on them so can be used for "fleshies" and vice-versa.

Edited May 10, 2022 by MAB

[Feuer Zug]

I enjoy the Friends theme because it offers more city related builds than the City theme itself. It's not all police/fire stations and burning buildings and bank robberies. Friends has added a wide variety of options for buildings, colors, hairstyles, and more to LEGO. I might not use the minidolls often on the streets, but they do have their places. Oh, and the wife loves the dolphin mold. I've been able to get a number of sets merely due to it having a dolphin included.

[koalayummies]

7 hours ago, Feuer Zug said:

Oh, and the wife loves the dolphin mold. I've been able to get a number of sets merely due to it having a dolphin included.

That is brilliant!

1. find wealthy single partner who loves Lego dolphin
2. ask them to purchase dolphin Lego sets
3. they get dolphins, i get non-dolphin pieces

Me, later that night:

[Murdoch17]

On 5/7/2022 at 4:49 PM, Peppermint_M said:

Isn't it great how so many of us have a Bob. I couldn't even say how or why we decided on Bob as the name for that generic print, but Bob he was. 

 

My Bob was the one from LEGO Universe.

You just can't beat the classics! (I want to actually make an counterpart anti-Bob...  red pants, blue shirt, unhappy face for a mirror-universe of my space theme's leader.) I would call him Not-Bob, or Nob.

Edited May 10, 2022 by Murdoch17

[Toastie]

1 hour ago, koalayummies said:

Me, later that night:

This is a wonderful - picture (not a photograph, it is a picture, expressing so much!)

Thank you very much! I love it. In my case, I can't use dolphins or the like, I have to play the "I need this for mental stability" vinyl - not too often though; it gets worn down rather easily. No one here is into LEGO (other than sharing my happiness - and questionable mental stability apparently stabilized by plastic bricks :D - I also do repair washing machines and clean shower drains in this household without whining, which I believe somehow restores the quality of the vinyl ...)

I really like this picture - almost drawing, I'd say. It actually could be a LEGO set: "This is to feel good"

Best wishes,
Thorsten 

[koalayummies]

4 hours ago, Toastie said:

This is a wonderful - picture (not a photograph, it is a picture, expressing so much!)

Thank you very much! I love it.

Thanks Deutsch friend!

I too am fond of repairing my own stuff, but I do grumble because they broke in the first place thus ruining my plans... of spending the evening not fixing broken junk

[MAB]

This may be unpopular, especially with the 90th anniversary. But I don't like old LEGO toys. Wooden ducks, elephants and sewing machines. Inflatable turtles and fish. Diecast cars, trucks, bikes and people. Even old CA bricks. LEGO bricks are the best out there, and that is what interests me. There are far better wooden toys, diecast toys and so on than those produced by LEGO. Plus they are not compatible with the LEGO I like. Sure they are part of LEGO history, but whenever I come across a vintage pre-ABS LEGO item, I sell it. I don't keep it just because it has LEGO written on it.

 

[Feuer Zug]

3 hours ago, MAB said:

Even old CA bricks. LEGO bricks are the best out there, and that is what interests me.

I'm not a fan of these bricks either. I have a large collection of them. Nearly every one is warped and doesn't line up properly with the ABS bricks. The white CA bricks do retain their color well though.

[koalayummies]

8 hours ago, MAB said:

This may be unpopular, especially with the 90th anniversary. But I don't like old LEGO toys. Wooden ducks, elephants and sewing machines. Inflatable turtles and fish. Diecast cars, trucks, bikes and people. Even old CA bricks. LEGO bricks are the best out there, and that is what interests me. There are far better wooden toys, diecast toys and so on than those produced by LEGO. Plus they are not compatible with the LEGO I like. Sure they are part of LEGO history, but whenever I come across a vintage pre-ABS LEGO item, I sell it. I don't keep it just because it has LEGO written on it.

I agree completely. The old stuff is cool to see from a historic perspective of where all of this started but that's about it.

The incessant nostalgia from many AFOL stems from something in the mind that cannot be satisfied. Even if they got what they wanted it will never be the same as it was as a recollection. The longing will remain. Lego could give them a perfect recreation of all the old that they're ceaselessly posting that they want and it wouldn't change a thing. They will simply never feel fulfilled chasing the sentimentality for the past.

[Lyichir]

2 hours ago, koalayummies said:

I agree completely. The old stuff is cool to see from a historic perspective of where all of this started but that's about it.

The incessant nostalgia from many AFOL stems from something in the mind that cannot be satisfied. Even if they got what they wanted it will never be the same as it was as a recollection. The longing will remain. Lego could give them a perfect recreation of all the old that they're ceaselessly posting that they want and it wouldn't change a thing. They will simply never feel fulfilled chasing the sentimentality for the past.

I think it can depend on the AFOL and their attitude. I don't really collect older sets or products much because I feel like the design standard of sets has generally trended upward, but I appreciate tributes to those older eras that, in their own way, got things to where they are today. Homages to sets from my childhood or even things that predate me like classic space or ye olde wooden duck give me warm fuzzies—not just despite not being "authentic" to how they were in the past, but sometimes even because of how they can improve upon that older subject matter with modern parts and techniques.

[MAB]

3 hours ago, koalayummies said:

I agree completely. The old stuff is cool to see from a historic perspective of where all of this started but that's about it.

All the wooden stuff might have been where LEGO started but to me, it is not LEGO.  That's why I'm not that bothered about the 90th anniversary.  The 60th a few years ago was more important to me as it was the anniversary of what LEGO is famous for - the brick.