FinlayTheFaithful Posted December 27, 2022 Posted December 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Portal Out said: I would’ve preferred Zelda, but Sonic is great too! It’s gonna be exciting to finally get the rest of the characters after all these years, and a $100 set definitely gets my imagination going as to what it could possibly be. One thing for certain, that $100 set has a good chance of including Super Sonic given its high price Quote
kevkipo Posted December 27, 2022 Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Meadius said: It seems like such a slam dunk for Lego with how popular it has been on Ideas over the years; there are five off the top of my head that I remember having gotten 10,000 votes. Depending of the subject matter (and assuming it's a normal minifigure-scale affair and not like Lego Mario) it could also have a ton of appeal for non-Zelda AFOLs who are into Castle. I wonder if there's some kind of issue beyond Lego's control that's keeping them from making them, because logically it would make perfect sense for them to do it. Exactly! Even if they would be afraid to jump the gun on a full theme. A single set, Breath of the wild-themed, in the style of the Horizon set, would probably be a safe bet, wouldn't it? The fact that games like Horizon even got a set before Zelda is quite strange (not to question the populairity of Horizon). 1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said: Zelda hasn't been as popular as stuff like Mario, Sonic, etc, so lego might not think it could support a full theme. That said, Breath of the Wild was hugely popular, so maybe they're just waiting to see if Tears of the Kingdom has the same popularity before making sets. But isn't Zelda insanely popular and profitable though? I feel like Link can be up there with Mario, Sonic, Pikachu, etc.? Edited December 27, 2022 by kevkipo Quote
Classic_Spaceman Posted December 27, 2022 Posted December 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Hoth Rebel said: Falconfan posted information on instagram about 5 Sonic sets ranging from 30 to 100$. Thread for Sonic discussion. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 5 hours ago, kevkipo said: But isn't Zelda insanely popular and profitable though? I feel like Link can be up there with Mario, Sonic, Pikachu, etc.? I mean the games turn a profit but no, Link's not even close to Mario, Sonic, or Pokemon. Link is fairly well-known but EVERYONE knows mario, sonic, and pikachu. Quote
Portal Out Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said: I mean the games turn a profit but no, Link's not even close to Mario, Sonic, or Pokemon. Link is fairly well-known but EVERYONE knows mario, sonic, and pikachu. It also doesn't help that the character has something of an identity crisis. It's really difficult to grow a brand around a character that get's erased and rebooted every 5 or so years, which leaves someone like Lego in a weird position. Nintendo recognizes this, so in addition to pushing merch for whatever game is the most recent, they also keep Toon Link around since he's really merchandisable, fits in well with the other Nintendo mascots, and has kid appeal. More recently, they've even started using a generic Link that's sort of an amalgamation of all the other recent Links, but I could only see a Lego theme really working if they were willing to dip into the whole back catalogue of Zelda games. Quote
Meaf Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 Sonic is definitely more well known on account of being Sega's mascot, but going off of sales data Zelds is generally more popular, even pre-BotW. Obviously Lego has data and information that we do not, but from a public perspective at least I really can't find a reason why Lego Zelda has yet to happen. While I'd personally prefer Zelda, Sonic is cool too and I'd be willing to grab a set or two depending on how they turn out. A non-brickbuilt Eggman would be nice, though the current one does have some charm. Quote
jedisquidward Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) This is going to be a really out-there theory. While I'm not suggesting causation by any means, or that this "confirms" anything, notice how after decades, we happen to get a Blacktron tribute revealed at the same exact time as the Zelda speculation / Ideas removal? Has anyone LOOKED at the Blacktron logo recently? It's the Triforce. It's even bright yellow and the same type of triangles. Am I saying that Nintendo "owns" such a basic shape? Not "comprehensively", by any means, but in the age we live in with copyright laws this convoluted and complex, I think this connection may have been referenced internally. Maybe there's some connection there? Again, this is more of an observation and less of a claim. Edited December 28, 2022 by jedisquidward Quote
Classic_Spaceman Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 2 hours ago, jedisquidward said: This is going to be a really out-there theory. While I'm not suggesting causation by any means, or that this "confirms" anything, notice how after decades, we happen to get a Blacktron tribute revealed at the same exact time as the Zelda speculation / Ideas removal? Has anyone LOOKED at the Blacktron logo recently? It's the Triforce. It's even bright yellow and the same type of triangles. Am I saying that Nintendo "owns" such a basic shape? Not "comprehensively", by any means, but in the age we live in with copyright laws this convoluted and complex, I think this connection may have been referenced internally. Maybe there's some connection there? Again, this is more of an observation and less of a claim. Not likely; we have gotten two CMFs in prior years (2013 and 2019, respectively) with the Blacktron I logo, and those never connected to a Zelda license (obviously). Quote
Pulp Detective Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 While I'm bumped for this being a non-Zelda theme on the other hand I'm glad because I'm fearful with how TLG will handle the license.I don't want another Super Mario situation. But still it's definitely annoying with how they keep denying all those Zelda related ideas project and yet they release no official sets of their own. Quote
kevkipo Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Pulp Detective said: While I'm bumped for this being a non-Zelda theme on the other hand I'm glad because I'm fearful with how TLG will handle the license.I don't want another Super Mario situation. But still it's definitely annoying with how they keep denying all those Zelda related ideas project and yet they release no official sets of their own. It would be so helpful of Lego to issue a statement on that. Even as little as saying: "We are currently not in the position to create Zelda sets" would give a lot of people some clarity. Same situation with Mario, there's a movie coming up and Lego has both the Nintendo and Illumination licenses? What am I missing? Quote
Killian Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 On 12/27/2022 at 7:51 PM, FinlayTheFaithful said: One thing for certain, that $100 set has a good chance of including Super Sonic given its high price Maybe it's codenamed Lemon because Super Sonic is yellow? Quote
Meaf Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Killian said: Maybe it's codenamed Lemon because Super Sonic is yellow? Yeah, I guess that could be. I know the codenames for themes don't always make sense but I find "Lemon" especially odd because my first thought when I hear that word in the context of video games is Megaman (his attacks are sometimes called lemons). I highly doubt we'll ever see a Lego Megaman set though seeing as how many more popular series could be done first. Quote
Natant16 Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 55 minutes ago, Meadius said: Yeah, I guess that could be. I know the codenames for themes don't always make sense but I find "Lemon" especially odd because my first thought when I hear that word in the context of video games is Megaman (his attacks are sometimes called lemons). I highly doubt we'll ever see a Lego Megaman set though seeing as how many more popular series could be done first. Wasn't Megaman going to be in Lego Dimensions? Quote
Portal Out Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 Was messing around on Lego Ideas this morning and it looks like Crash Bandicoot has joined the elite and mysterious club of “License Conflict”. Looked a little further and it’s the same with Spyro, World of Warcraft, and the rest of Activision-Blizzard’s properties. So I guess Lego cut ties with the company entirely. Quote
Meaf Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 10 hours ago, Portal Out said: Was messing around on Lego Ideas this morning and it looks like Crash Bandicoot has joined the elite and mysterious club of “License Conflict”. Looked a little further and it’s the same with Spyro, World of Warcraft, and the rest of Activision-Blizzard’s properties. So I guess Lego cut ties with the company entirely. Nice work, that's a really interesting find. I can't say I'm disappointed since I strongly dislike the company and don't have any real attachment to their franchises, but I do wonder if this might have larger implications for Lego video game themes. Maybe Lego will have more resources to devote to other series? To be fair though, Overwatch probably wasn't taking up much time and money given how little of it we've been getting. Quote
MatthewRC Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 18 hours ago, Portal Out said: Was messing around on Lego Ideas this morning and it looks like Crash Bandicoot has joined the elite and mysterious club of “License Conflict”. Looked a little further and it’s the same with Spyro, World of Warcraft, and the rest of Activision-Blizzard’s properties. So I guess Lego cut ties with the company entirely. Well, that sucks, but it’s apparently for a good reason. I’ve never owned any Overwatch sets at all, BTW. Quote
Classic_Spaceman Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 23 hours ago, Portal Out said: Looked a little further and it’s the same with Spyro, World of Warcraft, and the rest of Activision-Blizzard’s properties. So I guess Lego cut ties with the company entirely. Not at all surprising; unless Activision is successfully purchased by another company, I doubt that we will be seeing any more of their IPs for the foreseeable future. Quote
MatthewRC Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 On 12/30/2022 at 2:24 PM, Portal Out said: Was messing around on Lego Ideas this morning and it looks like Crash Bandicoot has joined the elite and mysterious club of “License Conflict”. Looked a little further and it’s the same with Spyro, World of Warcraft, and the rest of Activision-Blizzard’s properties. So I guess Lego cut ties with the company entirely. Is Overwatch also banned from LEGO Ideas at all? Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, MatthewRC said: Is Overwatch also banned from LEGO Ideas at all? Aren't all existing themes automatically banned anyway? Quote
MatthewRC Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 6 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Aren't all existing themes automatically banned anyway? Actually, Overwatch is no longer listed in LEGO Ideas’ restricted IP list. Quote
Pop Star c o Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 Activision-Blizzard is still better than Wizards of the Coast. Quote
MatthewRC Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, Pop Star c o said: Activision-Blizzard is still better than Wizards of the Coast. And yet, LEGO is working with Wizards to make a Dungeons & Dragons set via LEGO Ideas. Quote
PsychoBuilder Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Pop Star c o said: Activision-Blizzard is still better than Wizards of the Coast. Wait, what did they do? Quote
Portal Out Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Brickroll said: Wait, what did they do? Just this past week, they altered their open license for D&D, and now third parties that make things like idea books or manuals have to pay 25% royalties. While that’s not totally unheard of, it’s still pretty crappy that they withdrew their support of the community like that; like imagine if Lego started charging Mechabricks or Bickset for using their trademarks. Unfortunately for them, they announced this like a day before they announced the D&D Ideas contest winner, so that good press was totally buried by this controversy. Quote
PsychoBuilder Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, Portal Out said: Just this past week, they altered their open license for D&D, and now third parties that make things like idea books or manuals have to pay 25% royalties. While that’s not totally unheard of, it’s still pretty crappy that they withdrew their support of the community like that; like imagine if Lego started charging Mechabricks or Bickset for using their trademarks. Unfortunately for them, they announced this like a day before they announced the D&D Ideas contest winner, so that good press was totally buried by this controversy. Oooh, that's certainly scummy, I agree. Thank you for answering. With that said, I think I disagree with @Pop Star c o's statement about Activision being better--scummy corporate practices are not quite as bad as widespread sexual assault, unless, of course there is something far worse that Wizards of the Coast did. Quote
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