sammy_zammy Posted April 9, 2020 Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, Huigberts Builds said: I'm not sure how well it sold back then. I thought they only released that wave to coincide with the last 2 movies and didn't have any plans afterwards because the franchise was done. Since then the children who watched these movies have become adults with their own money and Lego noticed the rising demand of new sets as it quickly became one of the most requested themes. I think quite a few things have changed since the last time. Mostly it has been proven that the franchise has staying power after the books and movies ended and that it wasn't simply another hype. That makes sense actually, the Potter (and Lego) world is a very different one to 10 years (crikey) ago. I find it incredible how much (in my opinion) higher quality the sets seem now than the ones then although people may disagree or be like "quality how?" to which I don't know!
Crookshanks Posted April 9, 2020 Posted April 9, 2020 Have someone thought about if we will get a very detaild Gringotts in a D2C set? If they built the vault and take some scenes and do the interior very detaild. Maybe included a dragon to? Maybe with the weasleys shop with a detaild interior and we get the twins with it? Maybe some third shop to. A detaild gringotts would been very fun to build.
MaxHeadroom Posted April 9, 2020 Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, sammy_zammy said: I feel like you're giving kinda mixed messages... You want Harry, Ron and Hermione to have a "matching" set of clothes from each film, as though you're trying to make it film accurate, but then you want them to wear the wrong clothes for a given scene in a given set? It makes sense that they'll have Harry, Ron and Hermione in as many sets as possible because they're the main characters that kids will want to play with. But I'd much rather have a variety of characters from a variety of scenes personally, rather than every one having a Harry - like how Beauxbaton's Carriage didn't have any of the trio. Having them all in the same costume has nothing to do with accuracy but with presentation. We only have 1 figure of Ron this wave (which will almost certainly be him wearing his Hogwarts robes). It makes sense for Ron to look out of place with the Harry and Hermionie in that set because he was in the scene the figures are based on. However Ron wasn't out of place with Harry and Hermionie for the entirety of the fifth and sixth films. Kids and collectors do still want at least one set of the trio from this era that look good together which is why LEGO has to include hogwarts versions of Harry and Hermionie somewhere in this wave. LEGO did something very similar to what I suggested last year in a set you mentioned in your post. Hagrid wearing his Yule Ball costume in the carriage set is completely inaccurate but benefits the line as a whole as a whole.
LordVoldemort Posted April 9, 2020 Posted April 9, 2020 I think we are forgetting how well the micro scale Hogwarts castle did for LEGO, it won toy of the year. i have a sneaking suspicion that the D2C Diagon alley is micro scale. It will have more room to be creative with the architecture, street, and miniature interiors. if you’re thinking business wise- this is the way to go. It will look beautiful to a casual Harry Potter fan, and they will get it to display. All ages. Then LEGO can release individual mini figure scale diagon alley shops for the younger audience. The Weasley joke shop would sell great on its own, Gringotts etc. if we have a lot more waves coming, this is the best way to space out and make the most money. that being said- this is just a theory and ideally would love a mini figure scaled diagon alley this year instead lol and the leaks make it seem like this is likely- I just don’t wanna get my hopes up.
Crookshanks Posted April 9, 2020 Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, LordVoldemort said: I think we are forgetting how well the micro scale Hogwarts castle did for LEGO, it won toy of the year. i have a sneaking suspicion that the D2C Diagon alley is micro scale. It will have more room to be creative with the architecture, street, and miniature interiors. if you’re thinking that being said- this is just a theory and ideally would love a mini figure scaled diagon alley this year instead lol and the leaks make it seem like this is likely- I just don’t wanna get my hopes up. I have thinking the same thats a chance that we will get the diagon alley in micro scale. But the castle is so much bigger and it's harder to do in a minifig scale with so many scenes in a good way for the budget. It would be easier with diagon alley to choose some buildings and then do in a minifig scale with some detaild scenes.
Albert with an A Posted April 9, 2020 Posted April 9, 2020 On 4/8/2020 at 2:22 AM, Jinzol said: 75966 193 pieces 75967 253 pieces 75968 797 pieces 75969 971 pieces 75979 630 pieces Just double checking, are these piece counts legit or not?
sammy_zammy Posted April 9, 2020 Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 52 minutes ago, LordVoldemort said: I think we are forgetting how well the micro scale Hogwarts castle did for LEGO, it won toy of the year. i have a sneaking suspicion that the D2C Diagon alley is micro scale. It will have more room to be creative with the architecture, street, and miniature interiors. if you’re thinking business wise- this is the way to go. It will look beautiful to a casual Harry Potter fan, and they will get it to display. All ages. Then LEGO can release individual mini figure scale diagon alley shops for the younger audience. The Weasley joke shop would sell great on its own, Gringotts etc. if we have a lot more waves coming, this is the best way to space out and make the most money. that being said- this is just a theory and ideally would love a mini figure scaled diagon alley this year instead lol and the leaks make it seem like this is likely- I just don’t wanna get my hopes up. I really really doubt that Diagon Alley would be microscale, leaks aside. It's meant to cost $400, the same as Hogwarts microscale. Except Hogwarts is far, far bigger than Diagon Alley. This is not only in length/width, but especially in height. There's like no way they could make $400 worth in a microscale DA. And Hogwarts has tons of variety in structures and rooms. The only way they could make it even fairly large (and still not $400 large) would be to make it super long. Which would just be... odd. Plus they'd have to include very obscure shops with little source material - and many of these shops wouldn't be at all recognisable, even by the big fans who would buy this expensive set. So it'd just be... random shops. Hogwarts, you can be proud to display and show to your friends and they'll recognise it. Some seemingly random shops plus some recognisable Harry Potter ones? It just doesn't make sense to me. To put it into perspective, the microscale Diagaon Alley promo set had 374 pieces and included lots of shops. This D2C can be expected to be ten times the size of this. 19 minutes ago, Albert with an A said: Just double checking, are these piece counts legit or not? They never replied to requests for source so probably not. But that does seem reasonable approximate part counts to assume for these sets anyway. Edited April 9, 2020 by sammy_zammy
SupesBatsy Posted April 9, 2020 Posted April 9, 2020 Yeah, I don't think DA will be microscale too. We already got that last year (or it was 2 years ago?) and it was fine for a small exclusive set. One question to wait: you think we'll get the Gryffindor Common hall? Maybe with the Dormitory? Of course not this year, but I'd love to have another castle set with that :)
sammy_zammy Posted April 9, 2020 Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, SupesBatsy said: Yeah, I don't think DA will be microscale too. We already got that last year (or it was 2 years ago?) and it was fine for a small exclusive set. One question to wait: you think we'll get the Gryffindor Common hall? Maybe with the Dormitory? Of course not this year, but I'd love to have another castle set with that :) I would love to get the Gryffindor Common Room. However with their current style of making sets, I don't know if we will. They seem to like making recognisable exteriors and lots of interior scenes within them, to add the modular style, rather than what they used to do where they'd have lots of little interior areas that have absolutely no way of connecting to previous areas. In fact, we've already got an albeit very small Gryffindor dorm in the Whomping Willow set https://www.lego.com/en-gb/product/hogwarts-whomping-willow-75953 I think i prefer it this way for the continuity between sets, but it has meant some interiors have been a little small and lackluster. I feel a good example is Dumbledore's office: https://brickset.com/sets/4729-1/Dumbledore-s-Office which was huge and detailed before, but now is almost just a random side thought, stuck in a tower with a stickered background, randomly stuck in the Clock Tower https://www.lego.com/en-gb/product/hogwarts-clock-tower-75948 This makes me worry for getting a decent Forbidden Corridor and Chamber of Secrets set, which I've mentioned before, because it would be hard to fit with the modular style/unimportant consideration of interiors.
LordVoldemort Posted April 9, 2020 Posted April 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, sammy_zammy said: I really really doubt that Diagon Alley would be microscale, leaks aside. It's meant to cost $400, the same as Hogwarts microscale. Except Hogwarts is far, far bigger than Diagon Alley. This is not only in length/width, but especially in height. There's like no way they could make $400 worth in a microscale DA. And Hogwarts has tons of variety in structures and rooms. The only way they could make it even fairly large (and still not $400 large) would be to make it super long. Which would just be... odd. Plus they'd have to include very obscure shops with little source material - and many of these shops wouldn't be at all recognisable, even by the big fans who would buy this expensive set. So it'd just be... random shops. Hogwarts, you can be proud to display and show to your friends and they'll recognise it. Some seemingly random shops plus some recognisable Harry Potter ones? It just doesn't make sense to me. Idk diagon alley is massive and you have the very recognizable weasley joke shop and gringotts, I actually think you have more to work with in terms of pieces/price. There’s so many structures you could fit into the length of the micro scale castle. Someone asked the leaker if these were clues were getting mini figure diagon alley and he said the clues are for locations and mini figures- never clarified it wasn’t micro scale. Also mentioned the D2C would make minifigure collectors happy- which makes me think LEGO would include rarer figures in a micro scale set. Hopefully I’m wrong! But the micro scale hogwarts surprised everyone too
MaxHeadroom Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 I wonder how much overlap there is between people who bought the microscale set and people who've bought the minifigure sets. Also a lot of posts I've seen about the micro set have been from adults who are casual fans of Harry Potter. I'm not confident that that market will buy more than the one Hogwarts set. That set is incredibly classy, very iconic, and looks like a complete display (despite the fact that it isn't the whole castle). Would a microscale Diagon alley set look nice on a shelf next to the Hogwarts set? Honestly I'm not sure it would. I also feel like many casuals are satisfied by the one castle set. I also doubt anyone who didn't buy the castle set would buy a micro DA, if a casual had to choose between purchasing the castle or DA I would guess that they would choose the castle 95% of the time. It's just a more recognizable location. There's no way it will do as well as the castle and I'm sure LEGO realizes that lightning probably won't strike twice. I'm not sure it would even possible to make a DA in scale with the micro Castle large enough to be $400.
Micmac Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) Massive Harry Potter fan, I've bought all the new Harry potter sets (multiples of them for my moc) but not the micro scale Hogwarts. It just didn't appeal to me. I did order the stickers off BrickLink though. I think it looks great and the mocs where people have added more of the castle are fab. I just don't want to own it. Micro scale Diagon Alley is of no interest to me too. I just don't think it will look good, the free gift version was pretty poor. Hoping for a normal scale version, what lego does best. Hoping for some pictures soon, cant wait to see what the astronomy tower looks like. You don't see a lot of Mocs of it. Edited April 10, 2020 by Micmac
Retro Brick Reviews Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, LordVoldemort said: Idk diagon alley is massive and you have the very recognizable weasley joke shop and gringotts, I actually think you have more to work with in terms of pieces/price. There’s so many structures you could fit into the length of the micro scale castle. Someone asked the leaker if these were clues were getting mini figure diagon alley and he said the clues are for locations and mini figures- never clarified it wasn’t micro scale. Also mentioned the D2C would make minifigure collectors happy- which makes me think LEGO would include rarer figures in a micro scale set. Hopefully I’m wrong! But the micro scale hogwarts surprised everyone We've already had a micro-scale Diagon Alley. In fact, it was too a much larger scale than micro Hogwarts. That set included 5 buildings and was 374 pieces, so 75 pieces per building on average. Considering how micro sets have small pieces and therefore good PPP ratios, we can presume the set will have at least 5,000 pieces. (This is lowballing to the extreme, but I'll go with it.) That would mean a $400 micro Diagon Alley would include 67 buildings. I consider myself a hardcore fan, and I can name about 12 buildings in Diagon Alley. Not to mention that this would be nearly nine feet long. The D2C won't be microscale. As for the clue about the set making minifigure collectors happy, the micro Hogwarts made minifigure collectors angry, because it locked four highly detailed figures behind a $400 paywall for a set they didn't want. A set that makes minifigure collectors happy would be a set designed for minifigures, featuring a wide assortment of exclusive minifigures, and a good amount of figures for the price you're paying. LEGO even included Griphook in the CMF so they'd have a new goblin piece to use in this set. The D2C will not be microscale. There is no way to make a $400 Diagon Alley at microscale. We already have a microscale Diagon Alley that is to a much larger scale than the castle, and it didn't crack even 400 pieces, let alone 4,000. I enjoyed micro Hogwarts, but a lot of fans didn't, and LEGO knows that people crave a minifigure-scale D2C. Not to mention that Falconfan literally made a post about this set being microscale on April Fools Day. This set will be in minifigure-scale. It will not be in microscale.
lego_guyon02 Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 8 hours ago, sammy_zammy said: A question for you all: do you think this theme will go on for many years like the original (well I guess it had a big break and then randomly the OotP castle, but let's say it was around for about 5 years) or do you think it'll be short like in 2010/11? I think the theme will last untill at least 2022, giving it time for a DH wave and a wave to fill in some gaps. After that I'm unsure
Jinzol Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 44 minutes ago, Guyon2002 said: I think the theme will last untill at least 2022, giving it time for a DH wave and a wave to fill in some gaps. After that I'm unsure Can confirm, concepts are done for 2-3 more waves.
DNSNVN01 Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 8 hours ago, MaxHeadroom said: Having them all in the same costume has nothing to do with accuracy but with presentation. We only have 1 figure of Ron this wave (which will almost certainly be him wearing his Hogwarts robes) It may not be his Hogwarts robes. Since he's probably crabbe in the cmf, they still haven't used his quidditch variant yet. Alongside Lavender as the only two not at the Slug club that outfit may make sense instead 8 hours ago, Albert with an A said: Just double checking, are these piece counts legit or not? They're on stonewars
thenudeorganist Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Lego-Freak said: New hint by _kingnono_: "Now you see me" I immediately thought about thestrals when I read this. Although I can't really see them being included in any of the sets unless there is a hidden Ministry of Magic... Also, Kingnono posted: "Playfeatures and pins in Diagon Alley". That certainly hints at a minifig scaled DA, as suspected. Could pins hint at a modular build or a dragon...? Edited April 10, 2020 by thenudeorganist
Darth Shadowthrone Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, DNSNVN01 said: It may not be his Hogwarts robes. Since he's probably crabbe in the cmf, they still haven't used his quidditch variant yet. Alongside Lavender as the only two not at the Slug club that outfit may make sense instead I think there's three possible versions of Ron we could get: Quidditch, casual (which might fit more with the Slug club figures) or in Hogwarts robes. I also think whichever one it is it would be designed to fit with Lavender's minifigure and as she's more of an obscure character she'll be put into Hogwarts robes just to be more recognisable. Although a Ron in quidditch robes could fit with a Lavender minifigure like this, if Draco (judging by the leaked Slytherin torso) and Lavender are both in Hogwarts uniforms he would be too. This HBP uniformed Ron could also then be put with the OotP Room of Requirement Harry and Hermione minifigures in their uniforms, which isn't perfect but as they are all in the same wave and least they should be pretty consistent. 5 minutes ago, thenudeorganist said: I immediately thought about thestrals when I read this. Although I can't really see them being included in any of the sets unless there is a hidden Ministry of Magic... Also, Kingnono posted: "Playfeatures and pins in Diagon Alley". That certainly hints at a minifig scaled DA, as suspected. Could pins hint at a modular build or a dragon...? Pins makes me think of Madame Malkin's, the wizarding clothing shop. There was a scene in there in the Half-Blood Prince book where Draco was complaining about the pins for his clothes fitting, and got very edgy when the shopowner almost pulled up the sleeve on his arm with the Dark Mark. The shop is quite distinctive with a purple front so that could look quite cool. Also for playfeatures I think it could be Ollivander's shop front when the Death Eaters attack it. Hopefully it includes masked Death Eater figures! Edited April 10, 2020 by Darth Shadowthrone
thenudeorganist Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 Just now, Darth Shadowthrone said: Pins makes me think of Madame Malkin's, the wizarding clothing shop. There was a scene in there in the Half-Blood Prince book where Draco was complaining about the pins for his clothes fitting, and got very edgy when the shopowner almost pulled up the sleeve on his arm with the Dark Mark. The shop is quite distinctive with a purple front so that could look quite cool. That's a good one! I just thought of technic pins lol :D Would be nice to get Madam Malkin and masked death eaters.
Legoniche Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 It’s most definitely technic pins connecting the shops together so you can rearrange
DNSNVN01 Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, thenudeorganist said: Also, Kingnono posted: "Playfeatures and pins in Diagon Alley". That certainly hints at a minifig scaled DA, as suspected. Could pins hint at a modular build or a dragon...? The pins sound like a its modular as for play features they could have the moving hat on weasley wizard wheezes, Diagon alleys moving wall at the leaky cauldron and if the dragon is included, a feature that breaks the roof of gringotts. Also the rabbit patronus could be used for the rabbit on the weasley sign in a white colour Edited April 10, 2020 by DNSNVN01
Huigberts Builds Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 Yeah so definitely system scale. Wonder what the play features will be. My guess is that the set might feel like a couple of regular sets combined into a d2c. I don't think it will be a modular but more of the dollhouse style they've been using for Hogwarts so it would feel very consistent with the regular sets. 53 minutes ago, Darth Shadowthrone said: I also think whichever one it is it would be designed to fit with Lavender's minifigure and as she's more of an obscure character she'll be put into Hogwarts robes just to be more recognisable. Although a Ron in quidditch robes could fit with a Lavender minifigure like this, if Draco (judging by the leaked Slytherin torso) and Lavender are both in Hogwarts uniforms he would be too. This HBP uniformed Ron could also then be put with the OotP Room of Requirement Harry and Hermione minifigures in their uniforms, which isn't perfect but as they are all in the same wave and least they should be pretty consistent. I think that would make it even harder for people to recognised her. She would look too generic. I think her colourful set of clothes is the one thing that make her recognisable. If I would have to make a guess I would say the pink top yellow shirt one is probably the most recognisable one to pick.
RedHoodPug Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 13 hours ago, deskp said: what do you mean? its based on the Ford scene and Dobby visiting. from movie 2 the fireplace and under the stairs are just features of the house. and extrase based on other films. thats common enough Ignore me, we’ve been binge watching the films and reading the books with my son, I’ve mixed up about three plot lines about leaving Privet Drive. I’d got it into my head that it was the floo powder scene because of the fireplace. Too much time on my hands
Darth Shadowthrone Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 54 minutes ago, Legoniche said: It’s most definitely technic pins connecting the shops together so you can rearrange Oh yeah that does seem a lot more obvious now I think about it . I hadn't even thought about the shops being connected like the different Hogwarts sets are to each other that makes loads of sense.
sammy_zammy Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 Just now, Darth Shadowthrone said: Oh yeah that does seem a lot more obvious now I think about it . I hadn't even thought about the shops being connected like the different Hogwarts sets are to each other that makes loads of sense. Hopefully them being connectible doesn't make their fronts all flat in line. Diagaon Alley ought to be a bit higgledypiggledy and there needs to be some depth. What's awesome about this is it makes it really easy for them to include some actual street! So it's not just some buildings, it's an actual alley.
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