Harry Potter 2020 - Rumors & Discussion

[MaxHeadroom]

B&B was probably included here because they didn't plan on making it its own separate set but honestly why not? If they can sell a $50 Beauxbatons carriage I'm sure they could sell a $70-80 B&B or basically anything that appeared in the movies. Even if we had to wait another year or two would anyone have been mad? Was B&B in anyone's list of most wanted sets? I assumed it would be included but it's still a bit disappointing to have that confirmed. 

[Legoman123]

I mean the set is a $400 set so I’d be surprised if we didn’t get at least 5 buildings.  

[Albert with an A]

I don't know if this has already been mentioned, and forgive me if it has, but I think the Astronomy Tower Luna would have looked better if they had a bit of skin between the dress and the shoes similar to Ellie Sattler in Jurassic World line. 

[Retro Brick Reviews]

4 minutes ago, Albert with an A said:

I don't know if this has already been mentioned, and forgive me if it has, but I think the Astronomy Tower Luna would have looked better if they had a bit of skin between the dress and the shoes similar to Ellie Sattler in Jurassic World line. 

Luna has black leggings on, not boots. 

Edited April 19, 2020 by Retro Brick Reviews

[Balrogofmorgoth]

9 minutes ago, Albert with an A said:

I don't know if this has already been mentioned, and forgive me if it has, but I think the Astronomy Tower Luna would have looked better if they had a bit of skin between the dress and the shoes similar to Ellie Sattler in Jurassic World line. 

That wouldn’t work because she’s wearing black tights or leggings and there isn’t any skin showing around the rim of her dress in the film so that just wouldn’t be screen accurate

Edited April 19, 2020 by Balrogofmorgoth

[hagridshut]

I'd guess that Olivander's and Flourish and Blotts would be included in a Diagon Alley set.  They were very important stores in Books 1 and 2, respectively.  

The Leaky Cauldron and Weasley's Wizard Wheezes are also important to plotlines, as well as easily recognizable.  

Quality Quidditch Supplies, Eyelop's Owl Emporium, and Madam Malkin's would be interesting sub-builds where minifigures can "buy" accessories. 

Gringotts is huge and deserves its own set. 

If I had to guess which 4-5 stores would be included in a "core" Diagon Alley box, they would be (1) Olivander's (2) Flourish and Blotts (3) The Leaky Cauldron (4) Eyelop's Owl Emporium (5) Quality Quidditch supplies.  

Gringott's and WWW could be standalone sets due to size and recognizability. 

[Vindicare]

1 hour ago, sammy_zammy said:

Ok I do get that argument, but... the fact that B&B is included in this set kinda suggests that there won't be a separate "expansion"/Knockturn set, and there was likely one never planned. Surely you'd rather have B&B at least exist compared to other shops?

I guess you could say I'm missing the point, as it was hypothetical anyway, but you can see what I'm trying to say I hope - there's no point being disappointed when it's not confirmed what is/isn't coming in this set or future sets.

I think most are unhappy with Borgin & Burke’s being included because it is taking the place of an otherwise more wanted shop that was actually from DA. In the event this is it for the location, it would be disappointing. While we obviously don’t have a clue, the set could have all the big wants as far as shops go, and still include B&B, as unlikely as that is. 

[Balrogofmorgoth]

Personally, I love the inclusion of Borgin and Burke. I don’t think we would have gotten it at all otherwise. 

On another note, one thing nobody has brought up yet (at least that I’ve seen) that I noticed right away is that Slughorn’s hair doesn’t seem to have the light gray highlights on the sides like the previous version did. And I really don’t like inconsistency. Luckily I have the Lego Batman Movie Gordon minifig so I’ll just switch the hair pieces 

Edited April 20, 2020 by Balrogofmorgoth

[sebastian666]

Just now, Balrogofmorgoth said:

On another note, one thing nobody has brought up yet (at least that I’ve seen) that I noticed right away is that Slughorn’s hair doesn’t seem to have the light gray highlights on the sides like the previous version did. And I really don’t like inconsistency. Luckily I have the Lego Batman Movie Gordon minifig so I’ll just switch the hair pieces 

It was brought up several times after the figure leaked (with the same suggestion about the hair swap), but with all the recent news I can see how you might have missed it.

[Vindicare]

4 minutes ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

Personally, I love the inclusion of Borgin and Burke. I don’t think we would have gotten it at all otherwise. 

On another note, one thing nobody has brought up yet (at least that I’ve seen) that I noticed right away is that Slughorn’s hair doesn’t seem to have the light gray highlights on the sides like the previous version did. And I really don’t like inconsistency. Luckily I have the Lego Batman Movie Gordon minifig so I’ll just switch the hair pieces 

But then your Commissioner Gordon will be inconsistent. 

[Balrogofmorgoth]

Just now, sebastian666 said:

It was brought up several times after the figure leaked (with the same suggestion about the hair swap), but with all the recent news I can see how you might have missed it.

Sorry to restate it then, I typically try to read over the previous discussions to make sure I’m not too repetitive. I just missed it this time. Funnily enough, I currently am using my Gordon hairpiece on a custom Petre Baelish from Game of Thrones. I’ll have to figure something out though, since HP is an ongoing theme I prefer the consistency. 

[sebastian666]

Now that we have established that _kingnono_ is a reliable leaker, I recommend folks take a look back at some his earlier posts, which were roundly dismissed by some of our fellow forum members.

Some key takeaways:

- Duel in the Ministry w/ Voldemort, Dumbledore, Harry, Fudge, Percy

- CMF w/ Rita Skeeter, Prof Lockhart, Igor Karkaroff, Crabbe, Goyle, Sirius Black, James Potter

- The Vanishing Cabinet in Bourgin and Bourke’s will be a play feature 

It’s also worth noting that the only photo _kingnono_ has ever posted is an illustration from the hotly-debated “Magical Search & Find Adventure” book, in which he circled clues to minifigs that we will be getting in this wave:

- Arthur & Molly (confirmed)

- Ginny 

- Fred & George

- Tonks

- Lucius Malfoy

- Prof. Lockhart

Edited April 20, 2020 by sebastian666

[MaxHeadroom]

11 minutes ago, sebastian666 said:

Now that we have established that _kingnono_ is a reliable leaker, I recommend folks take a look back at some his earlier posts, which were roundly dismissed by some of our fellow forum members.

Some key takeaways:

- Duel in the Ministry w/ Voldemort, Dumbledore, Harry, Fudge, Percy

- CMF w/ Rita Skeeter, Prof Lockhart, Igor Karkaroff, Crabbe, Goyle, Sirius Black, James Potter

- The Vanishing Cabinet in Bourgin and Bourke’s will be a play feature 

It’s also worth noting that the only photo _kingnono_ has ever posted is an illustration from the hotly-debated “Magical Search & Find Adventure” book, in which he circled clues to minifigs that we will be getting in this wave:

- Arthur & Molly (confirmed)

- Ginny (confirmed)

- Fred & George

- Tonks

- Lucius Malfoy

- Prof. Lockhart

in his post about the ministry set he mentions its "Not a leak just my expectation a few months ago (we don't get everything, but still happy)"

His original prediction about the burrow is wrong we're getting Ron instead of Remus. So it seems like some of what he said there is accurate and some of it isn't. I certainly hope his list of DA figures is wrong (or incomplete) because only getting those 13 would be a bit of a let down. I could believe a ministry set was happening if the burrow was releasing in August. That way we would have a 5 set wave in June and 2 sets in August. It seems like the burrow is coming in June though so perhaps it was pushed forward after the ministry set was cancelled. 
 

Also Tonks has been confirmed already.

edit: Also where are you getting Crab and Goyle from? His minifigure series prediction list says that we're getting Ron and Hermionie. 

Edited April 20, 2020 by MaxHeadroom

[sebastian666]

7 minutes ago, MaxHeadroom said:

Also Tonks has been confirmed already.

edit: Also where are you getting Crab and Goyle from? His minifigure series prediction list says that we're getting Ron and Hermionie. 

By confirmed, I only mean that we’ve actually seen the leaked minifig. Tonks hasn’t leaked yet.

_kingnono_ says we will be getting “both sides of polyjuice potion, the gang is growing”.

Polyjuice is iconically used in COS when Harry, Ron, and Hermione turn into Crabbe, Goyle, and Millicent Bullstrode’s cat. Crabbe and Goyle form Malfoy’s “gang” of bullies.

Polyjuice is used a handful of other times in the series, but the characters on “both sides” are only significant in this case (and later when Hermione becomes Bellatrix).

Edited April 20, 2020 by sebastian666

[GoldenNinja3000]

4 hours ago, sammy_zammy said:

As others have said, can't compare licenced and non-licenced prices really. And also the bookshop is very narrow - I don't see DA shops being that narrow. Maybe bookshop dimensions but swap length and width would be nice.

My thoughts exactly. I'd rather have Diagon Alley Shops than Diagon Alley Walls.

I would be disappointed with 3 - however, to justify 3, Lego would have put TONS of detail into them. Like, each building would have to be worth Great Hall PLUS a third. I think three is being pessimistic but better to be surprised than disappointed lol. I would be happy with 5.

Aha, thank you!

I'd say F&B is more obscure yes but not on the same level as those, which don't even appear in the film except outside.

Sorry, I see you realised your mistake now lol. But Ollivanders was released in the 2011 set.

Saying B&B lowers the chances of getting builds which we'll probably never get as standalone sets doesn't really make sense as an argument imo. These separate sets are unlikely to exist anyway. So the fact that B&B is included means that at least B&B isn't getting shafted to not getting released, and I'd much rather B&B than the above less important shops like QQS.

Look at it this way - you're hoping that B&B isn't included in this confirmed set as there's a possibility (based purely on wishlisting and speculation) that it could have been released separately. I'd much rather a guarantee that it's included in some form.

Also I feel asking for street is kinda an oxymoron. Street would waste a lot of pieces (or a boring addition if it didn't) - and would be easy to add yourself. Wouldn't you rather that be used for more shops?

I’d rather have new shops than a third B&B, that’s what I was saying. And I want some street like the modulars as I think it makes the builds look nicer when there’s somewhere to position figures outside of them. It wouldn’t waste many pieces, definitely not enough to create an entire extra shop. An upscaled version of the GWP would be perfect to me because while a Diagon Alley that’s a bunch of disconnected shops is still a fantastic set, I’d like this D2C to be more of a proper street like the GWP is. 

[Balrogofmorgoth]

17 minutes ago, sebastian666 said:

By confirmed, I only mean that we’ve actually seen the leaked minifig. Tonks hasn’t leaked yet.

_kingnono_ says we will be getting “both sides of polyjuice potion, the gang is growing”.

Polyjuice is iconically used in COS when Harry, Ron, and Hermione turn into Crabbe, Goyle, and Millicent Bullstrode’s cat. Crabbe and Goyle form Malfoy’s “gang” of bullies.

Polyjuice is used a handful of other times in the series, but the characters on “both sides” are only significant in this case (and later when Hermione becomes Bellatrix).

You’re exactly right, but like @MaxHeadroom said, he was clear that his predictions were only predictions from before he actually knew anything about the sets. I wouldn’t take the specifics of his predictions to mean anything, he even said it didn’t all come true. He confirmed a handful of figures but name, and a few extras were included when he circled figures in the book so I would take those as confirmed

Edited April 20, 2020 by Balrogofmorgoth

[sammy_zammy]

1 hour ago, Vindicare said:

I think most are unhappy with Borgin & Burke’s being included because it is taking the place of an otherwise more wanted shop that was actually from DA. In the event this is it for the location, it would be disappointing. While we obviously don’t have a clue, the set could have all the big wants as far as shops go, and still include B&B, as unlikely as that is. 

I know. But I’d rather it were included here than not included at all.

2 hours ago, hagridshut said:

I'd guess that Olivander's and Flourish and Blotts would be included in a Diagon Alley set.  They were very important stores in Books 1 and 2, respectively.  

The Leaky Cauldron and Weasley's Wizard Wheezes are also important to plotlines, as well as easily recognizable.  

Quality Quidditch Supplies, Eyelop's Owl Emporium, and Madam Malkin's would be interesting sub-builds where minifigures can "buy" accessories. 

Gringotts is huge and deserves its own set. 

If I had to guess which 4-5 stores would be included in a "core" Diagon Alley box, they would be (1) Olivander's (2) Flourish and Blotts (3) The Leaky Cauldron (4) Eyelop's Owl Emporium (5) Quality Quidditch supplies.  

Gringott's and WWW could be standalone sets due to size and recognizability. 

We’ve discussed this before. Just because they’re big enough to be their own sets doesn’t mean they would be. For a D2C Diagon Alley, lacking Gringotts, the most important building in DA, wouldn’t make a very good Diagon Alley and would be a kick in the face; “Hi everyone here’s Diagon Alley oh it’s not all here by the way, if you want the rest you’ll have to buy it separately and wait a year or so”. Not only would it seem a cash grab it would be a huge disservice to fans in a fan-service set.

This set will have Gringotts, if there is no Gringotts then there is no Diagon Alley set.

This set will hopefully have WWW, but if there is no WWW then there is likely never going to be a WWW.

As we discussed before, the only things that seemed feasible to be separate would be the underground parts of Gringotts which could work as a standalone set and B&B (conformed not the case).

29 minutes ago, GoldenNinja3000 said:

I’d rather have new shops than a third B&B, that’s what I was saying. And I want some street like the modulars as I think it makes the builds look nicer when there’s somewhere to position figures outside of them. It wouldn’t waste many pieces, definitely not enough to create an entire extra shop. An upscaled version of the GWP would be perfect to me because while a Diagon Alley that’s a bunch of disconnected shops is still a fantastic set, I’d like this D2C to be more of a proper street like the GWP is. 

Well it’s clear they don’t mind redoing old stuff. Did you expect them not to do a third Great Hall? A fourth Hagrid’s Hut?

And like I said, if the path didn’t take too many pieces, then it’s not going to be a very interesting path, but okay...

[Do1633]

I feel like they might base the Diagon Alley set after the Univeral Studios Diagon Alley. That would definitely be interesting. I absolutely love that area of Universal. 

[2lazeetomakeaname]

I just noticed the back of the new HP book says "Diagon Alley" under the "eXpLore!" bit on the back. But the book releases July, so I assume it means the GWP will be featured.

[Roebuck]

Regarding the DA it would be strange if they made it exactly as the GWP set anyway. The only interesting stuff is in the first or second floor so why give the buildings 3-4 floors

Maybe they give it the Barracuda Bay treatment, so we can choose which buildings we like to build
Either:

• Ollivander's or Flourish and Blotts
• Eeylops Owl Emporium or Quality Quidditch Supplies
• The Leaky Cauldron or Borgin and Burkes

That would be a genius way to get some of us to buy 2 sets

[BrickBob Studpants]

I don‘t really get the argument that B&B „takes the spot of another shop“. Had they decided not to include B&B, that wouldn‘t necessarily mean that they would have featured another shop in its place. They also could‘ve reduced the price of the set to 350$ (or whatever) or use the parts it would have taken to bulk up the other buildings 

Same goes for similar discussions regarding minifigs. Since there are no apparent fixed rules how many minifigs a set is supposed to contain, you can‘t really argue that minifig X took Y‘s spot (e.g. Ron and Lupin in the Burrow set) 

[Thieda]

Order of the Phoenix is my favourite of the movies so I'm really excited for this new advent calender!

[Darth Shadowthrone]

5 hours ago, sebastian666 said:

Now that we have established that _kingnono_ is a reliable leaker, I recommend folks take a look back at some his earlier posts, which were roundly dismissed by some of our fellow forum members.

Some key takeaways:

- Duel in the Ministry w/ Voldemort, Dumbledore, Harry, Fudge, Percy

- CMF w/ Rita Skeeter, Prof Lockhart, Igor Karkaroff, Crabbe, Goyle, Sirius Black, James Potter

- The Vanishing Cabinet in Bourgin and Bourke’s will be a play feature 

It’s also worth noting that the only photo _kingnono_ has ever posted is an illustration from the hotly-debated “Magical Search & Find Adventure” book, in which he circled clues to minifigs that we will be getting in this wave:

- Arthur & Molly (confirmed)

- Ginny 

- Fred & George

- Tonks

- Lucius Malfoy

- Prof. Lockhart

I think you really need to move on from the Ministry set, there’s just no proof at the moment. The only thing Kingnono has said that could allude to it is two words ‘he’s back’ which could mean anything as it was used in both Goblet of Fire and Order of the Phoenix. 

Also I don’t remember any hints about James Potter or Sirius Black? 

The problem is the evidence that kingnono said these were coming was very vague hints, some of which have probably been misinterpreted. There already seems to be a disparity with the figures he said would come in the Burrow. Although some of these figures are coming, some probably aren’t as well and it’s definitely not certain at this point. 

Thank you for compiling this list tho, it is interesting to see 

[Thieda]

1 minute ago, Darth Shadowthrone said:

I think you really need to move on from the Ministry set, there’s just no proof at the moment. The only thing Kingnono has said that could allude to it is two words ‘he’s back’ which could mean anything as it was used in both Goblet of Fire and Order of the Phoenix. 

Also I don’t remember any hints about James Potter or Sirius Black? 

The problem is the evidence that kingnono said these were coming was very vague hints, some of which have probably been misinterpreted. There already seems to be a disparity with the figures he said would come in the Burrow. Although some of these figures are coming, some probably aren’t as well and it’s definitely not certain at this point. 

Thank you for compiling this list tho, it is interesting to see 

I would find it odd if we get James Potter in the CMF without Lily, especially since in the movies I feel she had a larger role.

Edited April 20, 2020 by Thieda

[Darth Shadowthrone]

17 minutes ago, Thieda said:

I would find it odd if we get James Potter in the CMF without Lily, especially since in the movies I feel she had a larger role.

I remember there was a fake list from season 1 which included lily and James. Lily would definitely have to include a baby Harry piece as well but I guess that would be more of a season 3 CMF as there’s no solid evidence for either of them being included this year.