Harry Potter 2020 - Rumors & Discussion

[sammy_zammy]

5 hours ago, 2lazeetomakeaname said:

I just noticed the back of the new HP book says "Diagon Alley" under the "eXpLore!" bit on the back. But the book releases July, so I assume it means the GWP will be featured.

The book releases September. So the D2C could be in it but why would they show that on this unreleased book before the reveal? Although we’ve had long discussions about books Not hinting towards future sets, it is reasonable for this one to as it contains info about sets.

it could also contain 2011’s DA though or a MOC.

2 hours ago, Lego-Freak said:

I don‘t really get the argument that B&B „takes the spot of another shop“. Had they decided not to include B&B, that wouldn‘t necessarily mean that they would have featured another shop in its place. They also could‘ve reduced the price of the set to 350$ (or whatever) or use the parts it would have taken to bulk up the other buildings 

Same goes for similar discussions regarding minifigs. Since there are no apparent fixed rules how many minifigs a set is supposed to contain, you can‘t really argue that minifig X took Y‘s spot (e.g. Ron and Lupin in the Burrow set) 

Thank you! It makes sense in a hypothetical situation but if the thing being replaced has not been confirmed to exist or not exist, it doesn’t make sense 

[Darth Shadowthrone]

There's a picture of the hare from the side and a really HD picture of the Centaur, it's a shame that all minifigure leaks can have that quality. Also as there's only been one variant of the centaur shown I sorta feel like they'll both have the same face and torso printing (they do all look pretty similar in the film)

[BrickBob Studpants]

11 minutes ago, Darth Shadowthrone said:

There's a picture of the hare from the side and a really HD picture of the Centaur, it's a shame that all minifigure leaks can have that quality. Also as there's only been one variant of the centaur shown I sorta feel like they'll both have the same face and torso printing (they do all look pretty similar in the film)

Finally an alternative shot of something that actually warrants it  The hare looks even better from this angle!

[sammy_zammy]

44 minutes ago, Darth Shadowthrone said:

There's a picture of the hare from the side and a really HD picture of the Centaur, it's a shame that all minifigure leaks can have that quality. Also as there's only been one variant of the centaur shown I sorta feel like they'll both have the same face and torso printing (they do all look pretty similar in the film)

Maybe they'll have two-sided faces so they'll technically be the same but easily be made different?

[lego_guyon02]

12 hours ago, sammy_zammy said:

Ok I do get that argument, but... the fact that B&B is included in this set kinda suggests that there won't be a separate "expansion"/Knockturn set, and there was likely one never planned. Surely you'd rather have B&B at least exist compared to other shops?

I guess you could say I'm missing the point, as it was hypothetical anyway, but you can see what I'm trying to say I hope - there's no point being disappointed when it's not confirmed what is/isn't coming in this set or future sets.

But B&B still had a lot of potential to be a standalone set, unlike most DA shops. I'm not unhappy or mad we're getting B&B, I just would've preferred other shops

12 hours ago, MaxHeadroom said:

If they can sell a $50 Beauxbatons carriage I'm sure they could sell a $70-80 B&B or basically anything that appeared in the movies. Even if we had to wait another year or two would anyone have been mad? Was B&B in anyone's list of most wanted sets? I assumed it would be included but it's still a bit disappointing to have that confirmed. 

I 100% agree with this

11 hours ago, Albert with an A said:

I don't know if this has already been mentioned, and forgive me if it has, but I think the Astronomy Tower Luna would have looked better if they had a bit of skin between the dress and the shoes similar to Ellie Sattler in Jurassic World line. 

Besides it not being screenaccurate it also wouldn't have looked good. They would've printed the skintone on either the pink or black parts, on pink it wouldn't be noticable and on black it would turn into gray since LEGO's light-on-dark printing is awfull

10 hours ago, hagridshut said:

Gringott's and WWW could be standalone sets due to size and recognizability. 

I don't know about other people but I would never buy a $400 Diagon Alley set if 2 of the most iconic buildings weren't included

Just now, sammy_zammy said:

Maybe they'll have two-sided faces so they'll technically be the same but easily be made different?

If the heads had 2 sides we definetely would've seen the other side by now

[BrickBob Studpants]

8 minutes ago, Guyon2002 said:

If the heads had 2 sides we definetely would've seen the other side by now

We have, among the first batch of leaks  The face prints are very similar, it‘s a frown on one side and fletching teeth on the other.

[Thieda]

Would you rather have this entire summer wave and not the D2C or just the D2C?

[THELEGOBATMAN]

Just now, Thieda said:

Would you rather have this entire summer wave and not the D2C or just the D2C?

Definitely the first one, as much as I love seeing D2C sets I 1) am not able to afford it 2) prefer smaller (than $400) sets with lots of new minifigures, locations and animals.

[Thieda]

Just now, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Definitely the first one, as much as I love seeing D2C sets I 1) am not able to afford it 2) prefer smaller (than $400) sets with lots of new minifigures, locations and animals.

Yeah to be honest you get a greater amount of "stuff" from a bunch of smaller sets rather than one big set.

[sammy_zammy]

45 minutes ago, Guyon2002 said:

But B&B still had a lot of potential to be a standalone set, unlike most DA shops. I'm not unhappy or mad we're getting B&B, I just would've preferred other shops

I do get that, but at the end of the day, if I had to choose between B&B at all and other shops, then I'd absolutely choose B&B and make my own other shops. But I'll end it here as this is going nowhere lol

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I don't know about other people but I would never buy a $400 Diagon Alley set if 2 of the most iconic buildings weren't included

Yes, definitely. It wouldn't make sense not to include them, frankly it would feel like a cash grab. Like when companies release a video game and say they have "planned DLC". It just wouldn't make any sense for TLG to do this, for them (as people wouldn't buy it) and for us (as DA would be incomplete without the expansion).

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If the heads had 2 sides we definetely would've seen the other side by now

Oh ok, never mi-

27 minutes ago, Lego-Freak said:

We have, among the first batch of leaks  The face prints are very similar, it‘s a frown on one side and fletching teeth on the other.

Oh, really, I'll take a look!

20 minutes ago, Thieda said:

Would you rather have this entire summer wave and not the D2C or just the D2C?

Definitely the summer wave as cool as the D2C sounds - with the summer wave you can buy them gradually, whereas with the D2C it would all be over after a big purchase. Why?

Edited April 20, 2020 by sammy_zammy

[BrickBob Studpants]

20 minutes ago, Thieda said:

Would you rather have this entire summer wave and not the D2C or just the D2C?

Yes.

 

[lego_guyon02]

51 minutes ago, Lego-Freak said:

We have, among the first batch of leaks  The face prints are very similar, it‘s a frown on one side and fletching teeth on the other.

Really? Completely missed that tbh

44 minutes ago, Thieda said:

Would you rather have this entire summer wave and not the D2C or just the D2C?

Easily the summer wave

17 minutes ago, sammy_zammy said:

I do get that, but at the end of the day, if I had to choose between B&B at all and other shops, then I'd absolutely choose B&B and make my own other shops. But I'll end it here as this is going nowhere lol

Well if we had actual confirmation that we wouldn't be getting a B&B set in the reboot I would gladly have it in the D2C because of it's importance. But we don't know that so theoretically it could've still been a standalone set. I agree, it's better to end this here.

[Crookshanks]

 

14 hours ago, sammy_zammy said:

I would be disappointed with 3 - however, to justify 3, Lego would have put TONS of detail into them. Like, each building would have to be worth Great Hall PLUS a third. I think three is being pessimistic but better to be surprised than disappointed lol. I would be happy with 5.

Yep, it should have been very detaild if it's only come 3 buildings. But this would be the minimum if i guess. I hope we get 4-5 buildings for a street. Especially of the rumor that some buildings can be over 20 cm. More buildings than 5 i hope we don't get. I really want well done exterior than many buildings.

13 hours ago, MaxHeadroom said:

B&B was probably included here because they didn't plan on making it its own separate set but honestly why not? If they can sell a $50 Beauxbatons carriage I'm sure they could sell a $70-80 B&B or basically anything that appeared in the movies.

I actually really like the beauxbatons carriage. It's one of the most best looking set (i don't like when to many studs is visible) and was a fun set to build (and moc). But

I don't think it's impossible if they will release random buildings. Probably these buildings would have a "cheaper look" but have good possibly to MOC into DA.

9 hours ago, sammy_zammy said:

I know. But I’d rather it were included here than not included at all.

We’ve discussed this before. Just because they’re big enough to be their own sets doesn’t mean they would be. For a D2C Diagon Alley, lacking Gringotts, the most important building in DA, wouldn’t make a very good Diagon Alley and would be a kick in the face; “Hi everyone here’s Diagon Alley oh it’s not all here by the way, if you want the rest you’ll have to buy it separately and wait a year or so”. Not only would it seem a cash grab it would be a huge disservice to fans in a fan-service set.

This set will have Gringotts, if there is no Gringotts then there is no Diagon Alley set.

This set will hopefully have WWW, but if there is no WWW then there is likely never going to be a WWW.

As we discussed before, the only things that seemed feasible to be separate would be the underground parts of Gringotts which could work as a standalone set and B&B (conformed not the case).

I think like you. This set will include Gringotts and probably www. I think it will be very odd if they not include one of the most iconic buildings. But would even a bit odd if they don't included www.

But i think it's not impossible they will release some other buildings, we have the Hogwarts castle like a own set. And even the same buildings but in minifig scale but with a more "cheaper look". If they will do more diagon alley shops i think it would be something in style like they have done with Hogwarts.

45 minutes ago, Guyon2002 said:

I don't know about other people but I would never buy a $400 Diagon Alley set if 2 of the most iconic buildings weren't included

Totally agree.

[RandomSniper109]

I know most of this has probably been discussed, but I haven’t been on here for a while so this is just my opinions. 

I think there will be five buildings, 3 and a minimum, for more than 5 the building s would have to be very under detailed and I doubt they would sell as well as this is obviously aimed at collectors who would want lots of detail.

For the buildings, the ones with considerable screen time are:

-gringotts

-ollivanders

-www

-b&b

-flourish and blotts

these are the shops I think will be included if they do 5 because they are the most recognisable and iconic, however b&b could potentially be a seperate set and still sell well, I think either eeylops owl emporium, Florean Fortescues, madam malkins or quality quidditch supplies would fit in better than b&b as they belong there more and I think would look better. 
 

however another thing they could do, is not include interiors to all of the shops, they could do the 5 with the most screen time and do cascades of the other shops, and maybe the wall entrance, or an archway between two of the buildings, leading to nocturn alley (not have anything down there but just as a way to connect a future b&b set

[lego_guyon02]

Just now, RandomSniper109 said:

these are the shops I think will be included if they do 5 because they are the most recognisable and iconic, however b&b could potentially be a seperate set and still sell well, I think either eeylops owl emporium, Florean Fortescues, madam malkins or quality quidditch supplies would fit in better than b&b as they belong there more and I think would look better. 

however another thing they could do, is not include interiors to all of the shops, they could do the 5 with the most screen time and do cascades of the other shops, and maybe the wall entrance, or an archway between two of the buildings, leading to nocturn alley (not have anything down there but just as a way to connect a future b&b set

You must not have read anything from the last few pages because Borgin and Burkes has just been confirmed and it's pretty much all we've been talking about

[RandomSniper109]

1 minute ago, Guyon2002 said:

You must not have read anything from the last few pages because Borgin and Burkes has just been confirmed and it's pretty much all we've been talking about

I read it and it seemed as though everyone was still discussing it, I didn’t even realise it had been confirmed by anyone reliable

[GoldenNinja3000]

10 hours ago, sammy_zammy said:

I know. But I’d rather it were included here than not included at all.

We’ve discussed this before. Just because they’re big enough to be their own sets doesn’t mean they would be. For a D2C Diagon Alley, lacking Gringotts, the most important building in DA, wouldn’t make a very good Diagon Alley and would be a kick in the face; “Hi everyone here’s Diagon Alley oh it’s not all here by the way, if you want the rest you’ll have to buy it separately and wait a year or so”. Not only would it seem a cash grab it would be a huge disservice to fans in a fan-service set.

This set will have Gringotts, if there is no Gringotts then there is no Diagon Alley set.

This set will hopefully have WWW, but if there is no WWW then there is likely never going to be a WWW.

As we discussed before, the only things that seemed feasible to be separate would be the underground parts of Gringotts which could work as a standalone set and B&B (conformed not the case).

Well it’s clear they don’t mind redoing old stuff. Did you expect them not to do a third Great Hall? A fourth Hagrid’s Hut?

And like I said, if the path didn’t take too many pieces, then it’s not going to be a very interesting path, but okay...

The Great Hall and Hagrid’s Hut are far more iconic than Borgin and Burke’s. You seem to be missing my point that in a D2C Diagon Alley, I personally wanted obscure DA shops rather than a Knockturn Alley shop. That’s just my opinion and what I would have liked to see, I’m not saying what I expected LEGO to do or not. 

[sammy_zammy]

1 minute ago, GoldenNinja3000 said:

The Great Hall and Hagrid’s Hut are far more iconic than Borgin and Burke’s. You seem to be missing my point that in a D2C Diagon Alley, I personally wanted obscure DA shops rather than a Knockturn Alley shop. That’s just my opinion and what I would have liked to see, I’m not saying what I expected LEGO to do or not. 

Okay, and I would prefer B&B compared to other shops for which had barely any screentime. Let's leave it there though? 

Edited April 20, 2020 by sammy_zammy

[Crookshanks]

Have someone thought about if this will be the last year with hp?

Next year will the next fantastic beasts movie come out. Maybe we will get some fantastic beast sets with more hp sets?

I actually like the two fb set we got, I don't have seen the movie, but I like the dragons and especially the niffler and thestral! I think it was a little sad that they retire after only one year (probably they don't sell as well like hp).

How good have the hp theme sell compared with star wars? If anyone now.

[thenudeorganist]

It's a question of preference. From Lego's point of view, it's logical to include B&B along with the most significant stores from Diagon Alley. B&B is an important place and is tied to almost every scene in the Diagon Alley. Lego wouldn't release a 400€ set that would have additions later on. No need to argue about preferences.

Edited April 20, 2020 by thenudeorganist

[sammy_zammy]

Just now, Crookshanks said:

Have someone thought about if this will be the last year with hp?

Next year will the next fantastic beasts movie come out. Maybe we will get some fantastic beast sets with more hp sets?

I actually like the two fb set we got, I don't have seen the movie, but I like the dragons and especially the niffler and thestral! I think it was a little sad that they retire after only one year (probably they don't sell as well like hp).

How good have the hp theme sell compared with star wars? If anyone now.

It is possible. But I don't think there's any substantial argument either way on whether this year is the last year compared to whether last year is the last year. I personally doubt it'll retire, especially as there's still the two DH movies to cover - I personally would love it to continue for years to come. It seems to sell pretty well.

I could see them giving Fantastic Beasts another shot. It clearly didn't sell as well due to its early retirement, in fact I kinda wonder if it was just an "excuse" to bring back Harry Potter - people see the FB film, buy the FB sets and then move onto the HP sets - and so they just didn't need to continue with FB as there was clearly demand without it.

I didn't buy Newt's Case, and every time I regret it, I think "but how would it fit in with the others?" and therefore I remember - just because the set exists doesn't mean I have to buy it. Same with the FB CMFs. I did buy the carriage - but that was solely to get the thestral and carriage, since it's very similar to the ones the students take to Hogwarts. So I bought it without FB even in mind. The good thing about this set is you could argue I have "two" thestrals now - one for Harry and Luna to be with in OotP and one invisible one pulling the carriage! Which is a pretty weird concept but makes sense.

It's a shame that I feel this way about it - I think in terms of the Wizarding World, the FB plot is just as important as the HP plot (with Grindelwald, Dumbedlore, etc). But having only two sets from two movies allows little of this to realised.

[lego_guyon02]

7 minutes ago, Crookshanks said:

Have someone thought about if this will be the last year with hp?

Next year will the next fantastic beasts movie come out. Maybe we will get some fantastic beast sets with more hp sets?

I actually like the two fb set we got, I don't have seen the movie, but I like the dragons and especially the niffler and thestral! I think it was a little sad that they retire after only one year (probably they don't sell as well like hp).

How good have the hp theme sell compared with star wars? If anyone now.

This is definetely not the last year of Harry Potter sets, it's one of the best selling licensed themes. I'd say this theme has definetely 1 or 2 more years of content, next year for Deathly Hallows / FB3 and 2021 to fill in some gaps. After that I think it would depend on the succes of the Fantastic Beasts films and the amount of things LEGO could still make. 

[Jinzol]

Lavender Brown and Ron leaked

 

[lego_guyon02]

Just now, sammy_zammy said:

I could see them giving Fantastic Beasts another shot. It clearly didn't sell as well due to its early retirement, in fact I kinda wonder if it was just an "excuse" to bring back Harry Potter - people see the FB film, buy the FB sets and then move onto the HP sets - and so they just didn't need to continue with FB as there was clearly demand without it.

To me it looks like WB just invested a little more than usual in HP when the FB movies came out because the brand would become relevant again. But while FB kinda backfired (the first movie was fairly well received but a lot of people hated CoG) they did find out how loved Harry Potter still is which resulted in more HP stuff coming out from all companies. 

Imo the mistake they made with the Fantastic Beasts movies was making Newt, Tina, Queenie and Jakob the main characters. Don't get me wrong, I really like them, but I feel like their stories started and ended perfectly in the first FB movie. I personally feel like this should've been a movie series with new characters for each movie but with Grindelwald as the overarching villain instead of 5 movies about Newt and crew. 

[lego_guyon02]

Just now, Jinzol said:

Lavender Brown and Ron leaked

I'm just gonna say it: these figures are awfull

Ron's face and hair look fine but the t-shirt looks really bad without dualmolded arms. If nobody told me it was Lavender I wouldn't even know it's her, extremely unrecognizable

Edited April 20, 2020 by Guyon2002