1gor Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 4 hours ago, jorgeopesi said: I should have been explained myself better I will stop buying Lego because even the new pieces are bad or loudicrously spedific, I always wanted to use this word since I saw Spaceballs Just don't use "12345678" as password Quote
Jurss Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 I checke last comments and didn't found answer - could there be new differentials used, as I see some red gear on axle? Quote
howitzer Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 30 minutes ago, Jurss said: I checke last comments and didn't found answer - could there be new differentials used, as I see some red gear on axle? I think someone somewhere mentioned that there would be new differentials on the axles and old style in the middle so 4 differentials total, 3 of which are new. Quote
jorgeopesi Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 2 hours ago, I_Igor said: Just don't use "12345678" as password Nice one , the light speed scene made me laugh until asthma attack . Quote
1gor Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 35 minutes ago, jorgeopesi said: Nice one , the light speed scene made me laugh until asthma attack . Or when they use giant brushes in desert Back to Volvo, I agree with you new motors are really too big (for my MOCs) so 99% that I'll quit Lego when i use all of motors I have in my MOCs (OK it is not going to happen tomorrow but could in 5-10 years) As already mentioned I like bonnet shape of Volvo but do not like "axle based" mini fake engine Quote
Timorzelorzworz Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 The lever to control the gearbox seems to be the new (from Bugatti) orange one. The L-Motor controls this lever with app. In neutral mode, the motor turns 90 degrees and the gearbox is unlocked, for driving or tipping the motor rotates -90 or +90 to select the gearbox. The app knows when you trigger the driving mode (and the gearbox is in proper position), so the different speeds are from software controlling different XL-speeds Quote
Akbalder Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 Just now, Timorzelorzworz said: The lever to control the gearbox seems to be the new (from Bugatti) orange one. The L-Motor controls this lever with app. In neutral mode, the motor turns 90 degrees and the gearbox is unlocked, for driving or tipping the motor rotates -90 or +90 to select the gearbox. The app knows when you trigger the driving mode (and the gearbox is in proper position), so the different speeds are from software controlling different XL-speeds With the wave selector (orange thing of the bugatti), it is possible to select gears on 2 axes (we don't see the second axe on the picture). It makes 4 different positions of the gearbox. I think that the neutral mode and the tipping mode are the same. It makes one position for tipping/neutral and 3 positions for selecting different driving speeds. The reverse is done by selecting gear 1 and driving in reverse (the app lock the possibility to drive backward in 3rd gear). Quote
JonathanM Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Akbalder said: With the wave selector (orange thing of the bugatti), it is possible to select gears on 2 axes (we don't see the second axe on the picture). It makes 4 different positions of the gearbox. I think that the neutral mode and the tipping mode are the same. It makes one position for tipping/neutral and 3 positions for selecting different driving speeds. The reverse is done by selecting gear 1 and driving in reverse (the app lock the possibility to drive backward in 3rd gear). Agreed - with C+ you don't need a 'neutral' as you can just not power the XL motor, right? I really like this implementation. 3 motors and we have a 3 speed gearbox, drive, steering and tipping. Only limitation is you can't tip and drive at the same time (not really that big a deal - my guess is the speed at which you can switch from R or 1st and tipping will be nice and quick anyway). Edited June 20, 2020 by JonathanM Quote
Timorzelorzworz Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Akbalder said: With the wave selector (orange thing of the bugatti), it is possible to select gears on 2 axes (we don't see the second axe on the picture). It makes 4 different positions of the gearbox. I think that the neutral mode and the tipping mode are the same. It makes one position for tipping/neutral and 3 positions for selecting different driving speeds. The reverse is done by selecting gear 1 and driving in reverse (the app lock the possibility to drive backward in 3rd gear). You're absolutely right. In the app screenshot, the tipping function has a green light and the mode is in N, which means just tipping is available. I guess that the app disables the tipping buttons when the stick goes to any driving mode and vise versa. The driving and steering function is disabled on N. It is an interesting mix of app Interface and physical gearbox, not that boring as expected. Beside that on N (tipping) it is possible to move the truck by hand Edited June 20, 2020 by Timorzelorzworz Quote
Gimmick Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Timorzelorzworz said: You're absolutely right. In the app screenshot, the tipping function has a green light and the mode is in N, which means just tipping is available. I guess that the app disables the tipping buttons when the stick goes to any driving mode and vise versa. The driving and steering function is disabled on N. It is an interesting mix of app Interface and physical gearbox, not that boring as expected I wonder if N realy decouples the drivetrain so you can move the truck freely - or in other words: If you use the tipping function on a slope, the truck will roll away :< Quote
Akbalder Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) The drivetrain has to be disconnected to send the power to the tipping function. We will have to unload on flat surfaces. I think that it is the first time that Lego produces a remote controlled gearbox. I'm surprised that not many people are happy about it. Edited June 20, 2020 by Akbalder Quote
Anio Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Akbalder said: I think that it is the first time that Lego produces a remote controlled gearbox. Never forget #8043. Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted June 20, 2020 Author Posted June 20, 2020 58 minutes ago, Anio said: Never forget #8043. The true pinnacle of gearbox and RC. Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 Looks like most of the parts go into the dump bed. Quote
suffocation Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: The true pinnacle of gearbox and RC. Only as far as official sets go. Quote
AVCampos Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Anio said: Never forget #8043. Also the forklift in the 8082. Quote
Gimmick Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Akbalder said: The drivetrain has to be disconnected to send the power to the tipping function. We will have to unload on flat surfaces. But would it not be possible to connect the drivetrain to a fixed gear while tipping mode is active? Quote
Parazels Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) Delete, please Edited June 20, 2020 by Parazels Quote
Akbalder Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 23 hours ago, Gimmick said: But would it not be possible to connect the drivetrain to a fixed gear while tipping mode is active? I don't think that's possible. Are we sure that there is no suspension at all? Quote
AMX Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Akbalder said: Are we sure that there is no suspension at all? Yup, haven’t you seen the pictures ?? Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted June 21, 2020 Author Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Akbalder said: I don't think that's possible. Are we sure that there is no suspension at all? There should be a ball joint at the articulation point, but that's all to it. Quote
Akbalder Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 I'm not sure that the tiling of the wheel axel and the tiling of the tipper is the same on the picture. Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Akbalder said: I'm not sure that the tiling of the wheel axel and the tiling of the tipper is the same on the picture. No, it definitely looks like there's some oscillation there. Thing is, wouldn't it be listed with the other features if it were present? Quote
Akbalder Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 The height between the wheel axel and the frame doesn't seem to be the same: Is it just the photo that give this impression? Could there be a moving wheel axel made without any shock absorber? Quote
Anio Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 I finally managed to reproduce the whole transmission/gearbox in 3D. You're welcome to download it here : https://www.partage-temporaire.fr/2020/06/21/42113--42114-2/ (file available for 24 hours, feel free to rehost it at your convenience) There are a lot of gears in there. Much more than I thought in the first place. Obviously, the differential are the regular ones because red 28t clutch gear + cage is not available. If you have any comment or observation, go ahead. =) Quote
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