On 3/11/2020 at 1:03 PM, I_Igor said:

that is why I'm constantly postponing development of my crane MOC with Unimog tires

It's a lot of work! And big responsibility as you said!

What exclusive features are you going to offer to make your crane special in comparison to other cranes?

Edited March 11, 20205 yr by Parazels

  On 3/11/2020 at 11:52 AM, TeamThrifty said:

Brilliant this! Those outriggers might be my favourites. Its not 'pretty' but its a very handsome beast! And thats exactly what a crane should be. Really like this!

(i've had flu-like symptoms for 5 days.. very rough on the first day or so, improving now though... no idea if its just normal seasonal flu or covid-19. Average age of fatalities in italy is 81... if you have no under lying health conditions, and aren't elderly, chances are you'll be fine... i'm self isolating just in case)

Thank you so much!

(If your breathing is okay it's likely just the 'flu. However, do be careful - I have relatives back in the UK who work in healthcare and they're quite worried about the government's failure to act - kind of what happened here in Italy until the guano hit the fan.)

 

Edited March 12, 20205 yr by suffocation

  On 3/11/2020 at 1:10 PM, Parazels said:

It's a lot of work! And big responsibility as you said!

What exclusive features are you going to offer to make your crane special in comparison to other cranes?

Honestly that is excellent question... I was thinking about standard features like steering, engine, suspension, stabilizers, two stage boom...but motorized (when I find enough money to buy needed PF elements...)

  On 3/10/2020 at 2:50 PM, Parazels said:

No. He claims it's how it looks in real cranes, but I don't believe that.

In my opinion, the designer simply didn't calculate well a position of the boom and then didn't want to rebuild the superstructure.

As the designer said, he might miscalculated......but turns out it just add a little more realism into this design

The more I look at it the more I like it. At first I wrongly assumed it owed something to 42082 (same subject, same tyres) but side by side they are obviously very different. The boom extension is way better for a start. I assume the second section is driven by worm gear and the third by string?

  On 3/11/2020 at 12:01 PM, TeamThrifty said:

...I love the geometery of the outriggers...

+1! Again at first glance I wondered if the feet simply pulled out but on second view I see the clever way they work.

I think I know where some of your inspiration came from though...

  On 3/22/2020 at 4:01 AM, n7zhang said:

As the designer said, he might miscalculated......but turns out it just add a little more realism into this design

Actually it looks like a miscalculated angle, not realism like!

  On 3/22/2020 at 11:34 AM, Parazels said:

Actually it looks like a miscalculated angle, not realism like!

no

  On 3/22/2020 at 11:34 AM, Parazels said:

Actually it looks like a miscalculated angle, not realism like!

This Grove RTC would like to disagree.

  On 3/22/2020 at 5:46 PM, Maaboo35 said:

This Grove RTC would like to disagree.

Do you really like this "falling" boom?

Admit it, a strictly horizontal boom would look much more neat.

Edited March 22, 20204 yr by Parazels

What are you trying to prove exactly ?

  On 3/22/2020 at 7:30 PM, fosamax said:

What are you trying to prove exactly ?

The model would have looked complete, if its designer had made the boom horizontal.

Also it would have let him set a front vertical pier and as a result prevent the superstructure from spinning while driving.

Edited March 22, 20204 yr by Parazels

  On 3/22/2020 at 7:17 PM, Parazels said:

Do you really like this "falling" boom?

Admit it, a strictly horizontal boom would look much more neat.

It's not a question of whether or not I like it. It's just that it's a feature on real cranes.

  On 3/22/2020 at 7:32 PM, Parazels said:

and as a result prevent the superstructure from spinning while driving.

The moored hook would do that anyway.

Honestly I do not understand what @Parazels is trying to prove here. 

First of all, it is a moc, a designer can do what ever he wants, this is at least what I understand. designers are human with all types of backgrounds, not all of them are specialised in mechanical engineering or calculating. So miscalculations or minor frauds might pop up here and there. I do believe that the designer is very happy about discussing these issues and to improve his/her moc.

In this particular case, the designer admitted that he miscalculated a bit which result the front of the boom is slightly lower than the horizontal level. None of us took this as a big issue as in the realistic world RTC does look the same, and that is why we think this adds a little bit of "realism". Our dear @Parazels seems to have a very persistent mind that a slope is not acceptable even if RTC in the real world was demonstrated. In terms of "good looking" or upward front end, 42082 should fit @Parazels appetite (great set though, I have a RC version my own).

If our dear @Parazels can present us a great moc with exactly horizontal boom along with "horizontal" RTC pics in the real world, please do. Otherwise, indeed, I think the "horizontal" discussion should end here. 

Last piece, @suffocation and all other who can read this message and currently locate in Europe, do mind your safety, nCoV-19 is very dangerous, make sure to ware masks, goggles and disposable gloves when you are out, wash your hands as often as possible, avoid gathering in any form. Hope everything ends soon.

Edited March 23, 20204 yr by n7zhang

  On 3/23/2020 at 2:01 AM, n7zhang said:

If our dear @Parazels can present us a great moc with exactly horizontal boom along with "horizontal" RTC pics in the real world, please do. Otherwise, indeed, I think the "horizontal" discussion should end here.

I'm not allowed to load photos...

 

Edited March 23, 20204 yr by Parazels

This went very off-topic... I suggest to apply: "live and let live" and tolerate all kind of RTCs. Thank You.

Although it is too big for my taste (and for my flat ), I like the overall look of this crane - and do especially the controls. The only strange thing is in my eyes, are the exhausts on the counterweight. I just would leave them off. 

Edited March 23, 20204 yr by agrof

  On 3/22/2020 at 9:24 AM, ukbajadave said:

The boom extension is way better for a start. I assume the second section is driven by worm gear and the third by string?

I think I know where some of your inspiration came from though...

Thank you! Yes, the mechanism is the same as 42009's.

Ha, that car is kind of hideous I have no sense of aesthetics so ugliness comes quite naturally

  On 3/23/2020 at 2:01 AM, n7zhang said:

Last piece, @suffocation and all other who can read this message and currently locate in Europe, do mind your safety, nCoV-19 is very dangerous, make sure to ware masks, goggles and disposable gloves when you are out, wash your hands as often as possible, avoid gathering in any form. Hope everything ends soon.

 

Thank you, my friend. I live in Lombardy, Italy's hardest-hit region - as of today, we've had more deaths than all of China. On the bright side, lockdown means more time with kitties and Lego

  On 3/23/2020 at 6:56 AM, agrof said:

Although it is too big for my taste (and for my flat ), I like the overall look of this crane - and do especially the controls. The only strange thing is in my eyes, are the exhausts on the counterweight. I just would leave them off. 

Thank you! I'm having second thoughts about those exhausts, too - I put them there to cover a gap in the panelling but they actually look worse than the flaw they're meant to conceal

@suffocation i can only say that what happened in Lombardy is worse than horror reading every day how Covid-19 pandemic situation escalates; we have quarantine measures and the only good thing that we suffered aggression in first half on 1990s is that we learned (mostly) to obey in difficult situations; so we have no exponential infection growth. Since I have to work from home and my wife's place is 20km away of Earthquake epicenter I did not have much time for LEGO. Health is in the first place, so every change you made on your crane is welcomed change from every day shock. 

 

 

  On 3/23/2020 at 12:09 PM, suffocation said:

Thank you, my friend. I live in Lombardy, Italy's hardest-hit region - as of today, we've had more deaths than all of China. On the bright side, lockdown means more time with kitties and Lego 

My dear friend, I just checked with my financial information terminal, the figure is quite scary. Take good care of yourself and you family as well.

Upside is that the curing rate starts to go up north and deviates from the death rate. It should be much better with in 1-2 weeks. Wish you all the best and hope Italy will come back alive soon.

One side-story, price of Ferrari and Lamborghini had gone up both new ones and used ones in china due to the virus......very very sad.

Took some new, post-lockdown pics with some more details of the internals.

 

Hidden in the superstructure is one of the most realistic-looking technic engines I have ever seen (at least cylinders).  Don't miss it readers.....

  On 7/11/2020 at 1:48 PM, nerdsforprez said:

Hidden in the superstructure is one of the most realistic-looking technic engines I have ever seen (at least cylinders).  Don't miss it readers.....

I thought exactly the same thing when seeing that picture. Actually, there is loads of clever solutions and details in this model to admire. I haven't fully checked this MOC back in March, but looking at it now I have to say that this crane is an excellent and impressive piece of engineering. @suffocation hat's off to you sir! No need to be so self-critical, this is GOOD stuff...!

This is a beautiful crane!  Superbly built, with some great features.  Those stabilizers are great, and I love that you've also added a fake engine to the superstructure too!   

Just out of curiosity, what does the mLA connected to the PF switch do, and what is the m motor in the superstructure for?

@suffocation Sorry to hear how hard your region has been hit by COVID.  I drove around northern Italy last June, and it's a beautiful area with lovely people. 

Edited July 11, 20204 yr by dhc6twinotter

  On 7/11/2020 at 4:06 PM, Rudivdk said:

his crane is an excellent and impressive piece of engineering.

Totally agree.. i loved it in march, and seeing more detail today i'm even more impressed... some of the pics deserve a longer look as there is more going on than at first appears. Awesome!

Thanks, lads

  On 7/11/2020 at 4:37 PM, dhc6twinotter said:

what does the mLA connected to the PF switch do, and what is the m motor in the superstructure for?

The mLA controls the polarity switch, enabling three steering modes: front-wheel, four-wheel & crab. The Bionicle tooth on the side shows which mode is currently selected.

The M motor in the superstructure drives a fake inline engine - my nephew wanted "one of those jiggly things" running even when the crane was in operating mode

  On 3/9/2020 at 3:20 PM, suffocation said:

 It has functions and does stuff.

 

That description is both funny and concise!