Vincent Denis Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Just now, Daniel Lucas said: This is the point when we really have to put this aside and let the other's decide. *Fwom fwom fwomma fwom* We're way past that point, yet another thing you don't seem to be able to grasp. You're still in the rose garden. *Fwomma fwom fwom fwom Fwomma fwom fwom fwom Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom* *Fwom fwom fwomma fwom* For the sake of allowing the thread to be readable by others, I started ignoring your repetitive posts. But if you really want this question answered, fine. 2 hours ago, Daniel Lucas said: You just switched voting from Andrew to Justin. You said it is because Justin feels more scummier. But if they are both scum how Andrew is the more dangeours out of the sudden? You just switched to Justin, which is suggesting quite a bit that you don't think both of them to be scum. Why? Because If you'd really think both of them to be scum and Andrew is the more dangerous, you would not even have switched for the first time, saying Justin is scummier. You're not reading what I'm saying if you have this question. If we're both town, we play differently and we communicate differently and I am really tired of explaining, sentence by sentence the things I've already said. What I said was: IF they are both scum, then Andrew would be more dangerous as he seems to be more capable of appearing townie. That is still the reason. Because he appears more townie to me. And so since he appears more townie to me than Justin, I say in the next sentence, that you even quoted that I find Justin more scummy. Then I list the reasons which you cut out of your post. This is why I'm done answering you. I've answered everything thoroughly, not only when you asked, but while I was doing it because I have nothing to hide. I am being 100% honest and trying to answer all of your suspicions but even that is "reacting to the heat." Well, I hope you're honest about finally being done because I intended to ignore your posts today and have wasted even more time on them now. People didn't have to wait for us "to be done" to react. They could have, and did, chime in whenever they wanted. Three people told you how it looked to them and you told them they were scummy for defending me. It must be a really really beautiful rose garden. *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwoooooooooom fwooooooooom fwooooooooom*
Robin Tremblay Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Vote Michael Lavoie. He is a deadman if things don’t change quickly. Where did that Giraffe go. I need more members of my band.
Daniel Lucas Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Just now, Robin Tremblay said: Vote Michael Lavoie. He is a deadman if things don’t change quickly. Where did that Giraffe go. I need more members of my band. Possibly he is the one being replaced as he hasn't made any posts yet. Also if he is a deadman in that case why are you voting for him? This is blank vote without the need to say anything specific. Also it is the 5th page of this discussion and you are still at the giraffe. Don't you think we're past that?
Alex Howe Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Well I'll be honest with you! That is a lot of verbose discussion right there! And for a wee young new recruit like me with little to no experience to draw on, fresh off the boat so to speak and eager to learn, how on earth am I meant to make sense of it all!? I think it is all a bit too much Mr Lucas and Mr Denis, I can't make head nor tail of it all! I think it is good that you are both pressing each other hard, but maybe it is a bit too hard for the first day of this adventure!? You'll be sore and worn out before we have even started huffing and puffing like that! Just now, Robin Tremblay said: Vote Michael Lavoie. He is a deadman if things don’t change quickly. Where did that Giraffe go. I need more members of my band. If he is a dead man anyway this vote seems rather...! Unhelpful!? After trawling through all the rose gardens and associated mud-slinging, this rather off-hand vote seems fishier than anything swimming beneath the clipper right now! To take a different angle from all the back and forth going on so far, which I don't think will resolve itself by the end of the day and will just result in no lynch and probably no lunch as well, I'll Vote: Robin Tremblay because that vote makes no sense to me at all!
Daniel Lucas Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Just now, Alex Howe said: Well I'll be honest with you! That is a lot of verbose discussion right there! And for a wee young new recruit like me with little to no experience to draw on, fresh off the boat so to speak and eager to learn, how on earth am I meant to make sense of it all!? I think it is all a bit too much Mr Lucas and Mr Denis, I can't make head nor tail of it all! I think it is good that you are both pressing each other hard, but maybe it is a bit too hard for the first day of this adventure!? You'll be sore and worn out before we have even started huffing and puffing like that! If he is a dead man anyway this vote seems rather...! Unhelpful!? After trawling through all the rose gardens and associated mud-slinging, this rather off-hand vote seems fishier than anything swimming beneath the clipper right now! To take a different angle from all the back and forth going on so far, which I don't think will resolve itself by the end of the day and will just result in no lynch and probably no lunch as well, I'll Vote: Robin Tremblay because that vote makes no sense to me at all! When it comes to me and Vincent you are wishwashing around so hard my head aches to it. Stop acting like a senseless child in a serious matter only to act totally reasonable otherwise 2 freaking lines later. "All a bit too much? You can't make a hea nor a tail of it?" Give. Me. A. Damn. Break. You have just pointed out the same thing about Robin's very recent and totally lurking, useless post so it is clear you are completely capable of paying attention and read everything. And it was already ENOUGH to jump and vote on him. You were just complaining that you can't make anything out of my argument with Vincent. But you vote for someone else a line later for not providing more opinions? Why would you need more opinions? You just said "You'll be sore and worn out before we have even started huffing and puffing like that!". You are totally fake. Also Vincent, since you've mentioned I could be wrong about you but that does not mean Aiden and Alex are not defending you as scums, I'm really interested in your opinion of them.
Vincent Denis Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Just now, Daniel Lucas said: When it comes to me and Vincent you are wishwashing around so hard my head aches to it. Stop acting like a senseless child in a serious matter only to act totally reasonable otherwise 2 freaking lines later. "All a bit too much? You can't make a hea nor a tail of it?" *Fwom fwom fwom* I already tried to explain to you that all of your posts are too long and confusing. Now, you're behaving cocky and insulting to someone. Should we find you scummy for that? He said he's a noob. Nice welcome, Daniel. Real class act. I've already said I don't think Aiden and Alex are town just because they can see what I'm seeing where you can't. What more do you want me to say? Do you want me to analyze every player in the game for your benefit so you can pick apart the structure of each sentence and waste people's time and confuse them with page after page of response? I've spent most of the time I have to play this game responding to you. I tried to move forward this morning and look at what other people were saying but you started up your blabber again, so here I am, once again, talking to you. And you're once again wasting everyone's time because I'm not scum. How about I tell you to Give Us. A. Break. from your incessant rambling. *Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom*
Daniel Lucas Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Vincent Denis said: He said he's a noob. Nice welcome, Daniel. Real class act. I've just pointed out why I think he is no noob. He acts like a puzzled child but makes a totally valid and experienced observation one line later. Also I did meant this question from you as anything offensive, I was really interested in your opinion. Because if you are town they're are still totally going under the radar and acting like two lambs. I don't believe they are. How did you jump on me this time and not on him? I was accusing Alex because of still being wishywashy, as I've done so eariler. Again: 31 minutes ago, Alex Howe said: Well I'll be honest with you! That is a lot of verbose discussion right there! And for a wee young new recruit like me with little to no experience to draw on, fresh off the boat so to speak and eager to learn, how on earth am I meant to make sense of it all!? I think it is all a bit too much Mr Lucas and Mr Denis, I can't make head nor tail of it all! This is a totally a forced reason not to read our debate or not to give voice any opinion. I doubt any town would be that lazy. Do you think my argument is invalid here? Dont you think everyone should read that, because you sounded very sure of yourself. You've said many times that you were 100% honest and you were helping town. Then why are you not upset of Alex jumping this shady over the whole thing? If you were right the whole time that debate would prove you right. Thus you should be just as annoyed by him ignoring it as I am. BUT NO. From the two of us, as totally honest town you pick on me. You said before that I am your MOST SURE townie read despite being angry with me. Then why are you not picking on Alex but on your most sure town read? I was just letting you go, saying already I had to say and try not to be tunnel visioned as you've said. You completely know I've voiced my theory about You, Alex and Aiden. If you were truly town and you were truly giving the opportonutiy to inspect them instead of us being at each other's throat this would've been the reasonable step. So I ask again: What is your opinion on Alex. You do really believe he is a noob? Okay. Then his opinion on Robin's lurking was also a noob observation? What is your opinion on that?
Fred Dumont Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Mr. Levitt, you were wrong, as I did suggest a lynch would be where my thoughts lie. Voting for Lavoie is a waste of a vote at this point. If we did not know he was possibly being replaced, then a vote for Lavoie would be reasonable. At this moment it is not. Mr. Tremblay is trying to look active and go for an easy target who he knows will most likely not fight back. It's a perfect move to seem helpful, in a normal setting. With the knowledge of Lavoie possibly being replaced, it's--at best--a townie trying to not get axed by a vig, which I doubt. Vote: Robin Tremblay
Peter Lyon Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 19 hours ago, Fred Dumont said: I think you're just jealous of my beard, Peter. You've barely said anything and just vote, maybe trying to slide under the radar and look active. I do like your beard! Maybe when I'm as old as you mine will be as magnificent. I think you missed the point I made behind my vote for you. My concerns with you were around the notion that you asked for people to give an opinion on lynching vs. no lynching, but only gave yours after several others had done so. As scum, that would be a nice way to feel out the town and then join in once you know what others are saying. While I think Robin's vote is a waste, I can't say I think it's a likely scum move. The votes for him seem rather eager. "Hey look! Someone did something obviously unhelpful, we've found scum!"
Vincent Denis Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Daniel Lucas said: BUT NO. From the two of us, as totally honest town you pick on me. You said before that I am your MOST SURE townie read despite being angry with me. Then why are you not picking on Alex but on your most sure town read? *Fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwom* Honestly, because I think you deserve to be picked on. Alex made a short post and you've posted four paragraphs with questions for me in response to it. You think the town is going to read everything that's happened between us and chime in? Look around you. They're ignoring it. Let's take an honest poll: Who is ignoring most of what Daniel and I are saying to each other? They're not finding anything useful in it. They're discussing other things because what we're doing isn't helpful. What you're doing isn't helpful. Alex has told you that he can't made heads or tails of our interactions. I can't even understand half of what you're posting as you can see by my responses when I express not understanding what you're saying. But do you try to communicate better? Nope, just more of your constant yammering. I've told you it's confusing and distracting. Other people have said the same thing. Yet you're still waiting for an opinion from them but the only thing that will satisfy you is if someone says "Oh yeah, I think Vincent is scum too." And it's not happening. They're replying to you but you're just turning on them and calling them scum. Our conversation is highly aggravating to participate in, let alone watch from the outside. You may think you're being helpful, but you're not. People are trying to tell you this, but you're not listening. And Alex not understanding the things you've said doesn't make him scum. Let's play another hypothetical: I'm night killed. Tomorrow, I flip town, as only I know I would. What would you have to show for all the energy you've put in today? Nothing. Oh, look, Vincent was town so he meant everything he said. Hmmm. He didn't know anybody's alignment. Gee. I guess my 127 paragraphs about how I was sure he was scum are useless now. They're useless now. 1 hour ago, Daniel Lucas said: So I ask again: What is your opinion on Alex. You do really believe he is a noob? Okay. Then his opinion on Robin's lurking was also a noob observation? What is your opinion on that? Hey may be a noob, he may not be. If he's not, that doesn't mean he's scummy by trying to act like one. A very experienced player tried it in the last game to avoid being metagamed. Other people have tried it, more subtly, in previous anonymous games. Sometimes, they're trying to avoid detection, others they're trying to avoid being metagamed. From Alex's one post, I don't know yet. I suspect he's not a noob since he so elaborately introduced himself as one, but he could be a noob and just...guess what?...communicates differently than you or I. People are different. Even if it's an act, that's not a reason to immediately suspect him of being scum. Even a noob would see Robin's post as odd. I saw it as odd. He's voting for someone we're told will be removed from the game if a replacement isn't found. That's a real easy place for a scum to hide. I don't know what we'd learn later from a lynch that was technically not a lynch so I don't see that point at all in voting for Michael. Especially since there still could be a replacement. Nobody had a chance to breathe after Alex posted because you immediately dump heaps of your turd posts on him and sucked all the energy out of the thread again. Nobody can see over your walls of texts and it's making people frustrated and confused as they are telling you, repeatedly. Yes, I lean town on you. I don't know for sure and the more you barrel forward with your bull-headed arguments that don't make sense to anybody else, the more I think it's possible that you're pretending to be obtuse and trying to cause confusion and obsfucation, but that's still not likely. You seem like a terribly misguided townie to me. Why on Earth would that mean I should jump on Alex? I lean town on you, but I do not trust your reads, at all. You've spent the entire day, post after post after post, reading me wrong. You turn on Alex and I'm supposed to jump on him too? If I did agree with you I imagine you'd reply with "Oh, now you're going to vote for another person? What about Justin and Andrew? What's the definition of scummy? Your argument is false. I know you have information. Blah blah blah!" I'm not seeing what you're seeing with him. I think your reads are shit. I think your logic is faulty. If you are town, your current play style and strategy is working against the town. You're not helping anything by doggedly going after me because I am not scum. I'm really failing at ignoring this guy. Apologies again to everyone. *Fwooooom fwooooom fwoooom fwoooooooom fwooooooooom fwoooooooom fwooooooom fwoooooom fwomma fwomma fwoooooooooooooooom*
Aiden Leon Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 Greetings my good fellows! I have returned from the latrine! 10 hours ago, Trenton Monette said: So have I and on a later day I would agree with you. I think it's important to place vote and establish where you stand even if you don't have a full reading yet. Who do you think is suspicious? Who are you going to vote for? Justin could be good for the reasons disccused. I've yet to catch up on todays latest events however so we'll see. 8 hours ago, Jean Pelley said: Oh dear! I feel faint! This overwrought reaction is "to much". Yeah well at least I don't have to learn French to play my character. (unless you speak French and Bob gave you your character accordingly ?)
Aiden Leon Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 8 hours ago, Joshua Levitt said: Aiden Leon - posting 3 times in a row an hour or so apart each time is very strange. Can't you get all your thoughts together and just post once? After all those posts, still no opinion on where to cast a vote?Not worth killing someone over, but strange nonetheless. What you on about? 6 hours ago, Daniel Lucas said: Oh, such a coincidence that you do accuse me of defending them! Let's see: How interesting, you are so eager to look at our actions so objectively, but for some reason you were leaning on to agree with Vincent, now you play the same narrative only to say you can't see my actions anything else than just a defense towards the poke voters. You clearly can use your imagination if you want to. Truly, this difference of this objective leaning is not because I have a suspicion on you, isn't it? Vincent was on the offense of Andrew and Justin which is normal. Your on the defense.
Aiden Leon Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 ... Vote: Daniel Lucas You. Are. Not. Helping. That's pretty much all there is to it.
Daniel Lucas Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Vincent Denis said: Honestly, because I think you deserve to be picked on. Alex made a short post and you've posted four paragraphs with questions for me in response to it. You think the town is going to read everything that's happened between us and chime in? Look around you. They're ignoring it. Let's take an honest poll: Who is ignoring most of what Daniel and I are saying to each other? They're not finding anything useful in it. They're discussing other things because what we're doing isn't helpful. What you're doing isn't helpful. Alex has told you that he can't made heads or tails of our interactions. I can't even understand half of what you're posting as you can see by my responses when I express not understanding what you're saying. But do you try to communicate better? Nope, just more of your constant yammering. I've told you it's confusing and distracting. Other people have said the same thing. Yet you're still waiting for an opinion from them but the only thing that will satisfy you is if someone says "Oh yeah, I think Vincent is scum too." And it's not happening. They're replying to you but you're just turning on them and calling them scum. Our conversation is highly aggravating to participate in, let alone watch from the outside. You may think you're being helpful, but you're not. People are trying to tell you this, but you're not listening. And Alex not understanding the things you've said doesn't make him scum. How do you know no one is reading along? You are talking in the name of others. No one asked nor authorized you to do that. You are again just trying to project a picture in the name of the whole town, because at this point you are totally done and tangled in your own contradictions. If I'm your most sure town read you would have just started to work with me already, since you say you are town too. Only that it seems you do not like my also totally valid observation of Alex either. You call yourself an honest town, but all you do is now is trying to sweeping my whole theory under the rug. There is no "Them". You are refering to Alex and Aiden who I accused as well long ago. Clearly I can't be your best town read if everthing you say about Alex is just an aimed attack back to me. Town would only do that if they would not trust me. But I am your most sure town read, remember? By now all the things you have thrown at me should have indicated you at least think of me as a potential scum. The thing is I'm not your most townie read. You seem to know for a FACT, that I'm town. 13 minutes ago, Vincent Denis said: Let's play another hypothetical: I'm night killed. Tomorrow, I flip town, as only I know I would. What would you have to show for all the energy you've put in today? Nothing. Oh, look, Vincent was town so he meant everything he said. Hmmm. He didn't know anybody's alignment. Gee. I guess my 127 paragraphs about how I was sure he was scum are useless now. Again just a suggestive sentence to paint yourself as town. I would be the most surprised here if you'd be turn town now, believe me. You are talking of yammering and long posts but look at yours. It was you who gave long sarcastic paragraphs and fwoooms just after the very first vote of this game. Your hypocrisy is in the skies. 1 minute ago, Vincent Denis said: Hey may be a noob, he may not be. If he's not, that doesn't mean he's scummy by trying to act like one. Your arguments are amorphous like hell. Take a quick look, please: 2 hours ago, Vincent Denis said: He said he's a noob. Nice welcome, Daniel. Real class act. Nice welcome? Real class act? You're so done with your act, Vincent. You just said he may not be a noob. But you were totally convinced he is a noob to attack me in the previous post. Me, your most sure town read. Also he used terms like "fishy" and your "rose garden" one. A real town would never believe he is a noob player at this point. It seems I've pointed out very good arguments indeed because he became a "he may not be a noob" very fast! Just now, Aiden Leon said: What you on about? Vincent was on the offense of Andrew and Justin which is normal. Your on the defense. And you are accused by me of being a scum buddy of Vincent and Alex. Just to talk plain and clear. Just now, Aiden Leon said: Vote: Daniel Lucas You. Are. Not. Helping. That's pretty much all there is to it. But I'm happy you've managed to make such a concise conclusion from our debate. It seems you've read all of it and this is what you honestly think of me. Being useless. I'll take your vote with honor. Also if you'd like me helping, come and have some talk. Don't lurk. Answer my first question from page 2 from a start, since you failed to react to that. But something tells me after my debate with Vincent you don't dare to do sh*t. You clearly see I am most perfectly capable of handling you three all myself.
Aiden Leon Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Daniel Lucas said: And you are accused by me of being a scum buddy of Vincent and Alex. Just to talk plain and clear. It's a posibbility, but whatever be the reason, the thing I'm sure of is that the action is unwarrented. Just now, Daniel Lucas said: Also if you'd like me helping, come and have some talk. Don't lurk. I've been offline since this morning. 1 minute ago, Daniel Lucas said: Answer my first question from page 2 from a start, since you failed to react to that. But something tells me after my debate with Vincent you don't dare to do sh*t. You clearly see I am most perfectly capable of handling you three all myself. "You can argue with a wise man, but you cannot reason with a fool".
Daniel Lucas Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Aiden Leon said: It's a posibbility, but whatever be the reason, the thing I'm sure of is that the action is unwarrented. For your information, this is mafia and we are giving suspicions. It is quite well-founded from me, believe me. It was not a personal remark or an insult. It was a game-based opinion. Just now, Aiden Leon said: I've been offline since this morning. Okay. Just now, Aiden Leon said: "You can argue with a wise man, but you cannot reason with a fool". Fair enough, let's assume I am a fool. What it is supposed to mean? That you won't even start arguing me? Well, you are the one who voted for me so maybe you'd like to think twice about that. Also why voting for a fool then? I thought I was voted because I'm taken as scum.
Vincent Denis Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: If I'm your most sure town read you would have just started to work with me already, since you say you are town too. *Fwom fwom fwom fwom* You can think somebody is town and think their reads are insane. I'm not going to agree with everyone I think is townie or learn is townie throughout the game. The idea is utterly ridiculous. You don't seem very receptive to working together, but let's give it a shot. I'll start. Don't you think it's weird how far under the radar Justin and Andrew have fallen since you started posting your suspicions of me? *Fwomma fwomma fwom Fwom fwoooom fwooom fwoooooooom fwoomie fwoomie fwom fwom fwooooooooom*
Aiden Leon Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Daniel Lucas said: Fair enough, let's assume I am a fool. What it is supposed to mean? You are being tunnel visioned just as Vincent said. Just now, Daniel Lucas said: Also why voting for a fool then? I thought I was voted because I'm taken as scum. Whether you're town or scum you're a liabilty.
Daniel Lucas Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Vincent Denis said: Don't you think it's weird how far under the radar Justin and Andrew have fallen since you started posting your suspicions of me? It is weird, yes. I'd very much like to hear from anyone who hasn't voiced any useable opinion since page 2. Just now, Aiden Leon said: You are being tunnel visioned just as Vincent said. Since it is about you, you may try to prove me wrong with arguments. Just now, Aiden Leon said: Whether you're town or scum you're a liabilty. I. see. So you would lynch me even as a potential town because you think I'm a tunnel visioned liability. It is interesting you think so. Vincent has reasons to say, since I was very obvious about my suspicion about him. But for some reason you and Alex are all very well convinced that nothing has been wrong with what Vincent has just said. From the very beginning even before I've made any suspicion of you. It is only started to include you two, after you failed to even suggest or ask anything from him, while he was clearly no more townie as anybody at that point. All you gave was a pseudo-counterargument which ended up being insantly in agreement with him. You two came with the very same suggestive post that we shouldn't pick on Vincent because he was just doing his town duty. Almost simultaneously together after I've placed my initial vote on him. Also if I'm not helpful let me tell you: your contribution is almost zero except the aid you're giving to Vincent. Even now, nothing pings you about him. Not the fwoomings, the insults, the personal remarks, the vote switch, his whole erratic behaviour and quoting "blah blah" from me. Not to meniton my arguments. There are 3 pages of debates and you don't even have any questions to him, nor me. I may be wrong about him but for some reason you two are SO convinced he is to be trusted. Also that I'm a liability. What do you expect anyway? Not being "tunnel visioned" because you gave me already so many clear arguments? You read all our debate with Vincent and you picked everything apart that I've wrongly said, pointed them out and I'm still being stubborn about it? No Aiden. You are being accused as well and you don't like this. And you are very much hoping to take focus off yourselves.
Aiden Leon Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 There's nothing left to say. Your unreasonable. That's all. 26 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: No Aiden. You are being accused as well and you don't like this. And you are very much hoping to take focus off yourselves. From who? You? Why should I be concerned about your (and yours alone) accusations when I've made it clear that I find your views flawed? 36 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: It is weird, yes. I'd very much like to hear from anyone who hasn't voiced any useable opinion since page 2. Why? So you can berate them? 37 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: Since it is about you, you may try to prove me wrong with arguments. Again, why should I when all you'll do is the same you've done to Vincent: Be tunnel visioned and unreasonable. Basically you are an infinte loop of unreasonability. An unreasonable person is an infintie loop.
Aiden Leon Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 50 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: But for some reason you and Alex are all very well convinced that nothing has been wrong with what Vincent has just said. And again right now I am in the offense of you and not as much the defense of Vincent. I'm pretty sure I've understood everything Vincent has explained to you so far, But the main factor that I'm focusing on right now is that no matter what he says to explain himself, or whatever anyone else that you've set your eyes on as says, you'll disagree with them and call them scum for it. 1 hour ago, Daniel Lucas said: Also if I'm not helpful let me tell you: your contribution is almost zero except the aid you're giving to Vincent. In case you didn't notice, you debacle with Vincent is pretty much all that's been happening for awhile now. And I blame that on you. Vincent could have dropped this ages ago, but I'm glad he didn't because it showed what the situation was with full clarity.
Daniel Lucas Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Aiden Leon said: There's nothing left to say. Your unreasonable. That's all. From who? You? Why should I be concerned about your (and yours alone) accusations when I've made it clear that I find your views flawed? You are really something. Someone is unreasonable when you want to reason with them but can't. Let me show your so called reasons: Quote On 4/6/2020 at 2:15 AM, Aiden Leon said: Our available time is ample. Surely with worthwhile disscusion we can come to an agreement on who shall have their last sip as they look down the barrel of a musket and feel the great sorrow of knowing they'll never look down a barrel again. One full of rum and apples and all the things that make life merrier for the living. This is you talking to Vincent: On 4/7/2020 at 3:06 AM, Aiden Leon said: I could say your looking to hard into these things, but I'd be nothing more than a rotten liar if I said it didn't ping myself as well. This is all a possibility as are a lot of the things you've said afterwards. This is your responses to me: On 4/7/2020 at 3:32 AM, Aiden Leon said: Nay Daniel!!! Must you stamp out what life eminates out of Vincent be it forced or not? He could very well be like one who tries to get water from a stone, but at least he searches with intent versus those who choose to wander aimlessly or wait for one to come forth and call themselves leader! 14 hours ago, Aiden Leon said: My dear Daniel I regret to inform you that you are traumatically reminding me of a certain merman traveler... I fear I'll have to lie down. If your scum then you are very cunning. But if your town (which I find more likely) then you are very simple minded. 14 hours ago, Aiden Leon said: I'm sorry what? I viewed your actions as being on the offense against Vincent, but I can view this no other way than you being on the defense of Andrew and Justin! And to just about see who is being tunnel visioned 15 hours ago, Aiden Leon said: Oh dear! I feel faint! The bullshit is to much. Why does one feel the need to explain themselves in such a manner? Coins? The Alphabet?! Perposterous!!! I think at the very least Andrew is feeling rather paranoid. Indeed the resemblance is uncanny. These are your so called reasons. I'm sorry but I don't see you clearly doing an reasoning about my arguments being flawed. I only see myself as a merman and a very simple minded one, who is not an offense on Vincent but on a defense on Andrew and Justin(!). Would be interesting if someone else would be on a defense on Vincent without any sane reasons, wouldn't it? How accidental that both of you have pointed out me being more likely a Town. Very interesting I've managed to convince you about this so easily. Maybe I just had to point out your total unspecific and scummy behaviour. 29 minutes ago, Aiden Leon said: Basically you are an infinte loop of unreasonability. An unreasonable person is an infintie loop. Have you heard of infinite scum bullshit? Take a look above about everything you've done so far. Just now, Aiden Leon said: And again right now I am in the offense of you and not as much the defense of Vincent. I'm pretty sure I've understood everything Vincent has explained to you so far, But the main factor that I'm focusing on right now is that no matter what he says to explain himself, or whatever anyone else that you've set your eyes on as says, you'll disagree with them and call them scum for it. How about giving some specifics, hm? You clearly seem to ignore anything I've just pointed out about Vincent. Since I'm a merman with a simple mind it is not so surprising. He just explained himself to you about everthing. His constantly confusing fwooming, insulting, face punching, sarcasm, totally emotional and erratic tantrums and vote switching is all explained. But not me. Do you have any explicit things to say about any exact argument I've made? What you do is talking in this blank clichéd generic phrases. Come on, if I am so unreasonable just pick one argument and point out what I've failed about that while Vincent managed to stay crystal clear. There is absolutely 0% chance that a town player whould have not considered Vincent as scum just for a tiny bit already by his posts regardless of me being anything. So obvious that you are working together.
Andrew Laurent Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 11 hours ago, Jean Pelley said: That's why Andrew's coin flip and "hurr durr Alex comes first alphabetically" comments absolutely reek, and it seems to me like he's trying to find a vote that sticks and get people to latch on to it. Um, yeah, I am. I'm trying to get people to lynch someone. That's what we do - we try to lynch scum. I happen to strongly believe that we need a lynch every day. Any day we fail to lynch is just a day for all the scum to survive and have a chance to pick one of us off overnight. So yes, I'm throwing votes around to see if anything will stick, because we need a day 1 lynch. And on day 1, that's how the game is played. At some point, a bandwagon will form on someone, or a lynch won't happen. If I can help start the lynch I'm going to. 9 hours ago, Emmett Ware said: I think random voting is a scummy practice, it almost always seems to kill a townie and then people say "oh well, we needed to vote for someone," which just gives the scum a free kill without providing much useful evidence. At this point, I feel like we've gotten a lot of chat to look back at later, but nobody is absolutely screaming scum to me right now and the votes are still all over the place. I'm still not confident enough about anyone to place a vote, though a couple of people are starting to concern me enough that I might get there in the next "46" hours. I disagree. Going by the sheer statistics, we will probably lynch a townie today. That sucks. But the lynch - and the voting process leading up to it - is our most valuable tool and we need to use it. And we might get lucky and get a scummo dead on day 1. If we don't lynch, then we absolutely give the scum a day/night cycle with a "free kill" since they have that ability at night. If we spend the whole day without lynching, then we also don't have any votes to look at since it's so freakin' easy for the scum to hide in a sea of random votes.
Aiden Leon Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 How many times and how many ways do I have to tell you? You are unreasonable so to try and resason with you would be a waste of my time as it was Vincent's. Not to mention, what could I say that Vincent hasn't already said that we've already witnessed had no affect at getting thru to you? 16 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: Very interesting I've managed to convince you about this so easily. What f*cking high horse are you on? My basis for thinking you are town is because I don't think scum wouldn't act like this typically.
Daniel Lucas Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: Do you have any explicit things to say about any exact argument I've made? What you do is talking in this blank clichéd generic phrases. Come on, if I am so unreasonable just pick one argument and point out what I've failed about that while Vincent managed to stay crystal clear. Just now, Aiden Leon said: How many times and how many ways do I have to tell you? You are unreasonable so to try and resason with you would be a waste of my time as it was Vincent's. Not to mention, what could I say that Vincent hasn't already said that we've already witnessed had no affect at getting thru to you? Can we just lynch one of them already?
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