Pirates Mafia III - Day One

[Aiden Leon]

 

[Vincent Denis]

*Fwom—

6 minutes ago, Aiden Leon said:

You are unreasonable so to try and resason with you would be a waste of my time as it was Vincent's. Not to mention, what could I say that Vincent hasn't already said that we've already witnessed had no affect at getting thru to you? 

Aiden, thank you. I have no idea what side you're on but I don't care. I so appreciate you demonstrating this. I thought I was going to lose my mind. But watching Nutty McBonkersFace do the exact same thing to you that he did to me, while still aggravating to see a re-run of last week's episode...again..., actually lessened the tension in my neck and shoulders from talking to this repetitive and obtuse brick wall for the past two days. Along with my gratitude, I'll also offer an apology as this post will spark 18 more paragraphs from him, "Look! They're openly colluding! Why can't anyone see they're on the same team and working together?" This doesn't mean I trust you (and I'm saying that more for Daniel's sake, not that he'll understand, I'm sure you already realize my post isn't about trust) but along the lines of human condition, thank you. Thank you a ton.

4 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said:

Can we just lynch one of them already?

You've quoted yourself and Aiden. You want us to choose someone to lynch between the two of you? I think you'd make a solid policy lynch. If you're town, the scum are deeply in love with you. If you're scum, they are going to tear you a new one when the PMs start tonight. 

Why do you think your suspicions require some acknowledgment like you speak for the whole town and somehow all of your accusations must be answered? Is it because that's the way it works on mafia.gg or whatever 1-minute version of this game you play on your phone that you were talking about in the last game? That's not how it works here, Opie. You have to demonstrate the ability to play nice with others in order for people to listen to you. 

I'm going to foreshadow your response: "You said earlier  that nobody is listening to us and you were trying to speak for the town and you can do it and I can't blah blah blah." I'm reflecting the reality I'm currently living in. People are having conversations around ours and not responding to it. You could see it if you'd look. Some people have responded since we started asking for responses but when they tell you they don't see your point, you jump on them, so they're out again. I see this happening. I'm not trying to speak for them, I'm trying to share my observation with you. It is not the same as demanding an answer to every nitpick accusation that comes from you. 

46 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said:

face punching

 Now, I know I haven't punched anyone in the face. You're coming apart at the seams, man.  

*Fwoom fwoom fwoom fwoom fwoom fwom fwom fwoom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom*

[Daniel Lucas]

2 minutes ago, Aiden Leon said:

 

For the record:

1. This is video is not an argument. Surely you are being helpful with this while I am not.
2. You said you are on the offense against me. Yet you won't give any specific argument because I'm unreasonable.
3. When I ask you to give me anything specific to prove my perfect ability for being reasonable, your answer is that I'm unreasonable.
4. You are the one talking about me being in a loop. Also uNrEaSoNAbLe.
5. You are voting for me, but you've said now twice that you think I'm town. You are okay with lynching a town, since I'm unreasonable.

Honestly, you could have too convinced me of your innocance, just as Vincent. But this totally scummy attitude and your constant generic wishwash kept going on my suspicion.

Just now, Vincent Denis said:

 Now, I know I haven't punched anyone in the face. You're coming apart at the seams, man.  

*Fwoom fwoom fwoom fwoom fwoom fwom fwom fwoom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom*

20 hours ago, Vincent Denis said:

I do want to slap you in the face, like really hard, to knock some sense into you. But I realize I insulted your intelligence.

You can't stay consistent for a minute, can you?

 

Again, can we just lynch one of them? I'm asking the other players. Clearly you have just enough information to decide which one of us should go today.

You know my proposal: Alex, Aiden or Vincent. 

[Vincent Denis]

*Fwom—

Just now, Daniel Lucas said:

For the record:

1. This is video is not an argument. Surely you are being helpful with this while I am not.
2. You said you are on the offense against me. Yet you won't give any specific argument because I'm unreasonable.
3. When I ask you to give me anything specific to prove my perfect ability for being reasonable, your answer is that I'm unreasonable.
4. You are the one talking about me being in a loop. Also uNrEaSoNAbLe.
5. You are voting for me, but you've said now twice that you think I'm town. You are okay with lynching a town, since I'm unreasonable.

Honestly, you could have too convinced me of your innocance, just as Vincent. But this totally scummy attitude and your constant generic wishwash kept going on my suspicion.

You've posted a five point response to a video. Good God, man. Snap out of it.

Just now, Daniel Lucas said:

You can't stay consistent for a minute, can you?

Again, can we just lynch one of them? I'm asking the other players. Clearly you have just enough information to decide which one of us should go today.

You know my proposal: Alex, Aiden or Vincent. 

If you can't take a slap in the face, you're not French. A slap is not a punch. I can't believe I just typed that. You've dragged me down into the mire with you. You're too blind to see it, but the most proactive thing I'm doing is trying to make a productive townie out of you. Your harbinger of chaos tactics are only helping the scum. If you're scum, gg. If you're town, chill out and pull your head out of your rose garden.

*Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom*

[Aiden Leon]

1 minute ago, Daniel Lucas said:

just as Vincent.

"Salt in the wound like your laughing right at me"

[Vincent Denis]

Just now, Aiden Leon said:

"Salt in the wound like your laughing right at me"

*Fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom*

I had "Starry starry night, paint your palette blue and gray."

*Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom*

Another thank you to Aiden as I'm finally having fun again.

*Fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fw-aaaaaah-m fw-aaaaaaaaah-m fw-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah-m"

[Aiden Leon]

Just now, Vincent Denis said:

I had "Starry starry night, paint your palette blue and gray."

Daniel, however, will never understand what you tried to say him. How you suffered for your sanity. 

[Vincent Denis]

Just now, Aiden Leon said:

Daniel, however, will never understand what you tried to say him. How you suffered for your sanity. 

*Fwom fwom*

  

*Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom*

You know you wanna meme. 

On 4/4/2020 at 2:02 PM, Bob said:

2) In addition, it is a bit of an honor rule that you do not share who you are to any other player, even if they are on your team, in private.

*fwom fwom*

Sorry @Bob, I'm pretty sure I violated the spirit of this rule twice now. I'll try to keep my guesses to myself for the duration of the game.

*Fwomma fwomma*

[Daniel Lucas]

This is what happens when you go on with inbred players... Are you guys done? Not only your arguing skills are equaled only by a glass of urine, but you're ruining the game for others as well at this point.

Also I'm still about to get all three of you lynched.

[Vincent Denis]

1 minute ago, Daniel Lucas said:

Also I'm still about to get all three of you lynched.

*fwomma fwomma fwom fwom*

*Fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom*

[Aiden Leon]

Things That Bring Joy To Life:

Money

Fame

Love

Policy Lynch

[Aiden Leon]

45 minutes ago, Vincent Denis said:

You know you wanna meme. 

Must...resist!!!...

[Vincent Denis]

9 minutes ago, Aiden Leon said:

Must...resist!!!...

*fwom fwom fwom fwom*

Careful. Daniel may singlehandedly lynch all 3 of us at once. The new scum-tell: you disagree with Daniel.

*Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwommma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom*

[Aiden Leon]

I want to no if he's cruel enough to lynch a man in his sleep. Goodnight everyone! It's 1 in the morning for me. 

(Actually it's six to one. clearly I'm a lying scum)

[Daniel Lucas]

 

[Aiden Leon]

 I'll have to find out in the end if you picked that yourself or if you were influenced by a particular player who posted it recentely as well. 

Anyways take it easy Daniel. 

[Daniel Lucas]

Just now, Aiden Leon said:

Anyways take it easy Daniel. 

Sure, no worries mate. I can do this all day anyway.

[Andrew Laurent]

This is nuts. We've got 3 people doing 75% of the posting, and somehow none of them have more than 1 vote. Our votes are spread amongst almost a dozen different people. 

Personally, I'd be ok with a lynch on Vincent or Daniel to reduce the yelling, but from experience, I'm 99% sure both are town. I'm pretty sure that every time I've ever seen a duo fight like this, it's turned out both are town. Scum try to stay out of being noticed, and the more you say, the more people have to justify a vote against you (not necessarily "catching you in a lie," but come on, how often do lynches (especially early in the game) turn out to be people bandwagoning on and just desperately finding things to justify their votes? 

As I'm posting, we've got less than 7 hours left. I don't see things turning around, unfortunately. My preference on a lynch would be either Alex (where my vote currently lies) or Fred. They both jumped quickly onto Robin after his vote against the missing crewmember. While I agree that Robin's vote was poorly cast under the circumstances, I don't like the way those two copied each other and very much look like they're scum trying to get a bandwagon kicked off. Of the two, I think Fred is more likely to be scummo, but that's just a gut feel. No coin toss involved 

[Justin Reynaud]

Sorry to interrupt the Daniel&Vincent show, but my popcorn ran out and I thought I'd share my thoughts so far.

On 4/6/2020 at 9:06 PM, Vincent Denis said:

I'd like to ask that you answer to the people who have questioned your behavior. Your vote got everyone talking and it is somehow still getting us talking just by sitting there, poke-less? That's not what you said about the vote when you placed it: 

I believe what I said was:

On 4/6/2020 at 2:19 PM, Justin Reynaud said:

My vote was a poke to get people talking. I'm glad I succeeded

And the poke votes most certainly have got people talking! 

On 4/6/2020 at 9:56 PM, Jean Pelley said:

It's like it hardly matters at all who actually gets the votes as long as Andrew and Justin raise a little rabble over this notion of inactivity and opportunistically cast the votes around. 

Um, it's day one. At the beginning of the day all we have are random votes. But that's better than talking about riding giraffes and drinking 5 barrels of rum. As the day goes on those random votes spark conversation which can help lead us to more informed votes. Your reaction to the poke votes doesn't quite ping me as scummy, but it doesn't seem helpful either.

On 4/7/2020 at 12:27 AM, Fabien Bellamy said:

It gives me the odd feeling of scum showing off by arguing over nonsense in order to look like they're actively participating. Experience tells us that players arguing the most on Day One are always Loyal, right?

I would almost agree with you, except no one can PM during the day this time. If there was a way for the scum to coordinate their public arguments I would almost lean towards Daniel and Vincent both being scum and trying an elaborate scheme. But since they can't I think they are both town, just very foolish townies.

20 hours ago, Joshua Levitt said:

The Daniel/Vincent argument fest is dangerous. If they are both town, then scum are probably eating popcorn and watching the show. if one of them really is scum then he is is definitely putting up a fight.  My problem after reading the whole thing is that they are both being mean, both making sense, and both seem just as plausible as town or scum. In my experience that means both are town, but sometimes it could mean one is a Godfather and will investigate as town so good to get out there and look super active.

This is a very good insight. I will make a mental note to remember one of them may be a Godfather role.

16 hours ago, Robin Tremblay said:

Vote Michael Lavoie.  

He is a deadman if things don’t change quickly. 

As others have said, this vote seems completely unnecessary. Bob already said he would be mod-killed if he can't find a replacement. If you're trying to look helpful/active this is a silly way to do it.

14 hours ago, Fred Dumont said:

Mr. Levitt, you were wrong, as I did suggest a lynch would be where my thoughts lie.

Voting for Lavoie is a waste of a vote at this point. If we did not know he was possibly being replaced, then a vote for Lavoie would be reasonable. At this moment it is not. Mr. Tremblay is trying to look active and go for an easy target who he knows will most likely not fight back. It's a perfect move to seem helpful, in a normal setting. With the knowledge of Lavoie possibly being replaced, it's--at best--a townie trying to not get axed by a vig, which I doubt.

Vote: Robin Tremblay

I agree with your reasoning. Not enough to throw a vote on him, but his vote for Michael does ping me as scummy.

 

But, through all of the arguments what pings me the most is Aiden. I think both Daniel and Vincent are toxic right now. So to have anyone jump to their defense strikes me as odd.

10 hours ago, Aiden Leon said:

And again right now I am in the offense of you and not as much the defense of Vincent. I'm pretty sure I've understood everything Vincent has explained to you so far, But the main factor that I'm focusing on right now is that no matter what he says to explain himself, or whatever anyone else that you've set your eyes on as says, you'll disagree with them and call them scum for it.

 

His explanations for why he is defending Vincent seem too simple for a townie looking to contribute. Granted, he may have just gotten caught up in the debate early on and is now looking to defend his choices. But it doesn't look that way to me.

Unvote: Joshua Levitt

Vote: Aiden Leon

[Bob]

Vote Count:
Justin Reynaud - 1 (Vincent Denis)
Vincent Denis - 1 (Daniel Lucas)
Fred Dumont - 1 (Peter Lyon)
Alex Howe -  1 (Andrew Laurent)
Jean Pelley - 1 (Trenton Monette)
Andrew Laurent - 1 (Jean Pelley)
Fabien Bellamy - 1 (Joshua Levitt)
Michael Lavoie - 1 (Robin Tremblay)
Robin Tremblay - 1 (Alex Howe, Fred Dumont)
Daniel Lucas - 1 (Aiden Leon)
Aiden Leon - 1 (Justin Reynaud)

With 16 players, a majority of 9 is required to lynch. About 6 or so hours remain in this day.

[Aiden Leon]

7 minutes ago, Justin Reynaud said:

 

But, through all of the arguments what pings me the most is Aiden. I think both Daniel and Vincent are toxic right now. So to have anyone jump to their defense strikes me as odd.

His explanations for why he is defending Vincent seem too simple for a townie looking to contribute. Granted, he may have just gotten caught up in the debate early on and is now looking to defend his choices. But it doesn't look that way to me.

Unvote: Joshua Levitt

Vote: Aiden Leon

This makes me think you either haven't read the entire disscusion, or your choosing to ignore it in an attempt to start a wagon on me. If it's the former then stay out of things that you're not educated on and fuck off. 

Vincent (or Daniels) alignment wasn't the issue anymore. It was that whoever Daniel put his sights on, he would probably make the game f*cking miserable for them. I don't think Daniel had scummy Vincent backed into a corner or some shit and I never will no matter his alignment.

[Aiden Leon]

34 minutes ago, Justin Reynaud said:

And the poke votes most certainly have got people talking! 

You coming in here and making some dinky little case against me towards the end of the day reeks of trying to start a bandwagon. 

Unvote: Daniel Lucas

Vote: Justin Reynaud

For being the brother of Tweedle-dee and trying to start a rushed end of day cleanup lynch.

I'm going to be offline again in the next couple of hours so if anyone has any questions now's the time.

[Justin Reynaud]

55 minutes ago, Aiden Leon said:

This makes me think you either haven't read the entire disscusion, or your choosing to ignore it in an attempt to start a wagon on me. If it's the former then stay out of things that you're not educated on and fuck off. 

Defensive much? Your response is pinging scum so loud! I read every comment carefully so my vote is an informed one. You jumped in to defend Vincent, and now you are defending yourself like the entire town called you scum. If you were town, then you would try to defend your actions rather than throw f-bombs all over the place. But you are acting like scum. Scum would know I'm town and would be worried about others seeing through the mask it seems I've pulled off your face. I'm more sure of my vote now.

[Daniel Lucas]

55 minutes ago, Aiden Leon said:

Unvote: Daniel Lucas

Vote: Justin Reynaud

This clearly shows how serious your vote for me was. Since I accused you too, we can take that as some kind of a pseudo-revenge vote. It is still not clear what was your purpose with that if not only the thin hope of people jumping on that. Now you revenge vote Justin even more directly. If you are town, you two are just out of your mind.

1 hour ago, Justin Reynaud said:

If there was a way for the scum to coordinate their public arguments I would almost lean towards Daniel and Vincent both being scum and trying an elaborate scheme. But since they can't I think they are both town, just very foolish townies.

This is a very good insight. I will make a mental note to remember one of them may be a Godfather role.

Honestly, you Justin, Andrew and Joshua's contribution were totally right on since the beginning.

• You are right about Aiden throwing empty and unspecific f-bombs all over the place. Also the Godfather note is a more useful in itself than all of their ~50 posts together.
• Andrew had a totally correct insight on Day 1 lynching and first votes, which was the whole idea he was picked upon by my 3 suspect.
• And Joshua is also right pointing out the danger of Vincent's and my debate.

You were implying that we're both foolish townies, which is a bit of yes, and a bit of "meh". Foolish indeed because everybody just went lurking because of it. Only that I went along truly because of their respones which were just full on scummy and if you really have read all the lines you can see the serious difference in the quality and truth of the arguments taken.

I'd totally discourage everybody just to come in, take a quick tl;dr look at this and quickly label it townie foolishness. No. This was exactly his tactic intention. Read all the lines, all the freaking lines and see the twisting and constant smoke-screening yourself, people. If we are truly both town I'm total mad at Vincent, since he is acting like a neurotic douche without his pills. Either it is the truth and he unprofessionally brings his immature nature into the game, or I just totally hit the nail on its head and this is the act he went to do.

Vincent has truth in one thing: if some of you - Justin and Andrew, maybe Joshua - are scum, you are actually playing this game as intended. You are not only acting town but making actually useful and patient town inspections. A really good scum player would do that, just for the record.

AND this is why I still have more disdain for Vincent and Aiden. If they'd be so aware of this possibility they've wouldn't had to go and twist things all over the place and act like two 14 years old pussies juts becaues they've got accused by an aggressive player on Day 1. I just truly can't believe if they are being such an experienced forum players (and confirmed ones, since they've started to break 4th wall) they would have truly induced this kind of shitstorm into these scales as Town.

Only because of one f***ing initial vote on him. All they'd have to do is to reply in a patient, unpersonal, non-sarcastic and clear manner. All I did was pointing out their totally confusing, incoherent, twisting, fwoming and insulting behaviour and they've just kept on pushing it, like they'd have any certificate of being Town.

They are talking about policy lynch, but at this point I'd be just totally satisfied to get rid of this annoying Fwomfwoming and empty bitching around. If they're town they're they're just horrible players. If this is not the case, this whole nonsense erratic show is just a local meta gameplay to sweep it under the rug and I cannot see the cause not being getting cornered by me. Like they're suffering all around from my annoying but right on punctuality.

Also being arrogantly on a high horse constantly, like they supposed town play would be anything good even without arguments. No. It is a big pile of crap. If you are Town indeed Vincent and Aiden, your play is just bad. And if this is the level a decade of experience has brought you, I have to tell you: I'm not impressed.

1 hour ago, Aiden Leon said:

You coming in here and making some dinky little case against me towards the end of the day reeks of trying to start a bandwagon. 

No. This is a bandwagon:

Unvote: Vincent Denis

Vote: Aiden Leon

And I'm seriosuly hoping that the players out there who have openly enjoyed this whole deal in the background will finally make their decesion. Lynch these douchebags and let's just play the game in a professional manner finally. 

[Fred Dumont]

Can I just say for the record I think we're all acting absolutely crazy at this moment?

3 hours ago, Andrew Laurent said:

As I'm posting, we've got less than 7 hours left. I don't see things turning around, unfortunately. My preference on a lynch would be either Alex (where my vote currently lies) or Fred. They both jumped quickly onto Robin after his vote against the missing crewmember. While I agree that Robin's vote was poorly cast under the circumstances, I don't like the way those two copied each other and very much look like they're scum trying to get a bandwagon kicked off. Of the two, I think Fred is more likely to be scummo, but that's just a gut feel. No coin toss involved 

I did not jump quickly, mind you. There were a few hours after he posted I cast my vote, and I just think it was a scummy move of him.

2 hours ago, Justin Reynaud said:

As others have said, this vote seems completely unnecessary. Bob already said he would be mod-killed if he can't find a replacement. If you're trying to look helpful/active this is a silly way to do it.

I agree with your reasoning. Not enough to throw a vote on him, but his vote for Michael does ping me as scummy.

I stand by my choice in voting for him, for the record. I would hope he's not scum and just a mistake, but I would not want to let an easy vote fly by like his could have if it was not brought attention to.

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But, through all of the arguments what pings me the most is Aiden. I think both Daniel and Vincent are toxic right now. So to have anyone jump to their defense strikes me as odd.

His explanations for why he is defending Vincent seem too simple for a townie looking to contribute. Granted, he may have just gotten caught up in the debate early on and is now looking to defend his choices. But it doesn't look that way to me.

Unvote: Joshua Levitt

Vote: Aiden Leon

I can see your logic and reasoning here, as well as Mr. Lucas' in his post above mine. While I do stand by my vote, I also stated earlier I would be in favor of a lynch if we could reach it. Thus...

Unvote: Robin Tremblay

Vote: Aiden Leon