icm Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Mister Phes said: Ok, let's assume submitting a concept to LEGO Ideas provides the LEGO Group with free reign over the concept to do as they please. Have they ever released an "in-house" set which is remarkably similar to a LEGO Ideas submission? Several times. Just off the top of my head the Ghostbusters Firehouse, Jurassic Park T-Rex Rampage, and Fiat 500 come to mind. When you broaden the criteria to include Ideas submissions that didn't reach 10k, there's also the Apollo lunar lander and many others, I'm sure. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted April 23, 2020 Governor Posted April 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, Corydoras said: The UCS Hulkbuster... 10 hours ago, icm said: Several times. Just off the top of my head the Ghostbusters Firehouse, Jurassic Park T-Rex Rampage, and Fiat 500 come to mind. When you broaden the criteria to include Ideas submissions that didn't reach 10k, there's also the Apollo lunar lander and many others, I'm sure. Thank you both for the examples... are the original submissions for the aforementioned sets still on LEGO Ideas? I'm curious to see just how close they are to the sets which were eventually released. Quote
Mencot Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 8 hours ago, Mister Phes said: Thank you both for the examples... are the original submissions for the aforementioned sets still on LEGO Ideas? I'm curious to see just how close they are to the sets which were eventually released. Yes, you can find them still on Ideas (also on Google) and they are pretty similar. Quote
Piraten Posted April 23, 2020 Author Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) And dont get it... this one was approved .... https://ideas.lego.com/projects/9c2e5efd-a975-40ed-a51b-00eab852ba26 @Mister Phes @Delusion Brick @leafan Edited April 23, 2020 by Piraten Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted April 23, 2020 Governor Posted April 23, 2020 Just now, Piraten said: And dont get it... this one was approved Have submissions ever been approved and then unapproved? Quote
Piraten Posted April 23, 2020 Author Posted April 23, 2020 Yeah i think they have If they can remove it at some point yes Quote
Hive Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 I don't quite understand that reasoning. I mean, we've had several NASA-themed sets released on Ideas so far, with even more having been submitted without issues... Unless, of course, it's simply to cover up an upcoming Pirates theme. Quote
Brickander Brickumnus Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Piraten said: And dont get it... this one was approved .... https://ideas.lego.com/projects/9c2e5efd-a975-40ed-a51b-00eab852ba26 Crazy! It makes no sense. Quote
leafan Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Piraten said: And dont get it... this one was approved .... https://ideas.lego.com/projects/9c2e5efd-a975-40ed-a51b-00eab852ba26 @Mister Phes @Delusion Brick @leafan Thank you for this. Not only for the extra context but also.....wow what a great Idea! I'll add it to the index now. Quote
Alazon Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 8 hours ago, Mister Phes said: Have submissions ever been approved and then unapproved? Well, they even cancelled projects (Mystery Shack, Tea Garden) after they reached 10.000 supporters, but before starting the review stage ... It's ... complicated. Quote
LM71Blackbird Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Piraten said: And dont get it... this one was approved .... https://ideas.lego.com/projects/9c2e5efd-a975-40ed-a51b-00eab852ba26 @Mister Phes @Delusion Brick @leafan Sorry that your build didn't get approved! I would really like something like that in my pirate collection! I'll be honest, I actually fully expected my idea to get turned down after seeing a few topics like this one... 6 hours ago, Hive said: I don't quite understand that reasoning. I mean, we've had several NASA-themed sets released on Ideas so far, with even more having been submitted without issues... Unless, of course, it's simply to cover up an upcoming Pirates theme. NASA has a longstanding relationship with LEGO and therefore can basically create as many (or none at all) NASA-themed sets. At least that is my understanding of the situation. 2 hours ago, Alazon said: Well, they even cancelled projects (Mystery Shack, Tea Garden) after they reached 10.000 supporters, but before starting the review stage ... It's ... complicated. Sometimes they will can a project if they feel that it would be to difficult to turn it into a full fledged lego model. They can do that at any stage of the process, even after 10k has been reached. Edited April 23, 2020 by LM71Blackbird Quote
Alazon Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, LM71Blackbird said: Sometimes they will can a project if they feel that it would be to difficult to turn it into a full fledged lego model. They can do that at any stage of the process, even after 10k has been reached. Sure. In these cases, if I understand correctly, they found out that the creators were LEGO store employees, which is not allowed in the Ideas TOS. Quote
LM71Blackbird Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 Just now, Alazon said: Sure. In these cases, if I understand correctly, they found out that the creators were LEGO store employees, which is not allowed in the Ideas TOS. More layers to onion! I hadn't heard of that news before... I don't think that's really fair though. If you make a great looking model, you should be afforded the same opportunity as everyone else to get it produced. Quote
Brickander Brickumnus Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 Just now, LM71Blackbird said: More layers to onion! I hadn't heard of that news before... I don't think that's really fair though. If you make a great looking model, you should be afforded the same opportunity as everyone else to get it produced. So true... so fair... Quote
icm Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, LM71Blackbird said: NASA has a longstanding relationship with LEGO and therefore can basically create as many (or none at all) NASA-themed sets. At least that is my understanding of the situation. Lego has partnered with NASA in some form or another for the Town/City Space sets at least since 1995 (as stated in old Mania Magazines) and probably since 1990, since that's when the first Space Shuttle was released. Quote
Piraten Posted April 24, 2020 Author Posted April 24, 2020 9 hours ago, LM71Blackbird said: Sorry that your build didn't get approved! I would really like something like that in my pirate collection! I'll be honest, I actually fully expected my idea to get turned down after seeing a few topics like this one... Thanks. And think your build is great. But when you see the one @lomis made that are similar to the one you made. Then you just dont get it... Quote
Hive Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 20 hours ago, Piraten said: And dont get it... this one was approved .... https://ideas.lego.com/projects/9c2e5efd-a975-40ed-a51b-00eab852ba26 @Mister Phes @Delusion Brick @leafan That is weird indeed. I once had a revision of the Imperial Trading Post rejected because it was a remake of an existing set... 10 hours ago, LM71Blackbird said: NASA has a longstanding relationship with LEGO and therefore can basically create as many (or none at all) NASA-themed sets. At least that is my understanding of the situation. That's not the point though. The point is that the "we already have one Ideas set with that theme, so we can't have more" reasoning in regards to Pirates is ridiculous - since it's obviously not a problem with other subjects/themes. Quote
Piraten Posted April 24, 2020 Author Posted April 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hive said: That is weird indeed. I once had a revision of the Imperial Trading Post rejected because it was a remake of an existing set... That just don't make sense to me. There is no line in this. How long time ago was that. And do you have a picture to share ? Quote
Hive Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Piraten said: That just don't make sense to me. There is no line in this. How long time ago was that. And do you have a picture to share ? It was probably 3 years ago. And granted, it was very similar to the original... Quote
Piraten Posted April 24, 2020 Author Posted April 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hive said: It was probably 3 years ago. And granted, it was very similar to the original... Very similar.. But when you see what else that are approved... Don't know then. Just crazy Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted April 24, 2020 Governor Posted April 24, 2020 This has got me wondering about the fate of the Caribbean Clipper remake . What happens if it reaches 10K? Is this submission also subject to this "overlap" with Pirates of Barracuda Bay (and ship concept)? Quote
Piraten Posted April 24, 2020 Author Posted April 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, Mister Phes said: This has got me wondering about the fate of the Caribbean Clipper remake . What happens if it reaches 10K? Is this submission also subject to this "overlap" with Pirates of Barracuda Bay (and ship concept)? It will be turned down for sure. The same will my project and the project of Delusion. Talked to Delusion last night and he also think it will be turned down. Quote
TeriXeri Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) I'd think any form of ship, skull island or tavern is fairly unlikely in the near future (1-2 years) via IDEAS. Medieval Blacksmith is coming at some point, which could be re-purposed as a larger tavern I suppose. For Fortress type sets, or Islanders, no idea what LEGO's plans are, but having pirates with no other factions feels a bit empty, even with the 2 fantastic larger Pirates sets on the market in 2020. (I didn't collect 2009 or 2015 sets). A Chess set or Advent Calendar could also still be a welcome surprise. Edited April 24, 2020 by TeriXeri Quote
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