Andrew Laurent Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Fabien Bellamy said: Wait, I thought the point was to validate Fred and Andrew as blockers, since they had only blocked each other so far? Yep, which is why we aren't confirming what we did publicly until our targets do. Daniel, Fred, and myself know who each other was going to target, so we want our targets to confirm we actually did it without us saying who first as a prompt for potential scum to lie. 37 minutes ago, Fabien Bellamy said: You misunderstand me. I'm saying that it's obvious that there could have be a vanilla player in the game, regardless of what people think of what should be the game setup, or what it was in a past game. I don't think that you can justify your vote based on what Mafia Wiki says is allowed or possible to do. It just looks to me like you're trying to over-explain that you (and others) have made an false assumption. I was blocked, so was it one of you two? Yes, I blocked you. 11 minutes ago, Emmett Ware said: I know who you targeted, I tracked you last night. Would you prefer to reveal it, or should I? I just did, since Fabien said he was blocked. You should be able therefore to confirm what I'm claiming here, and that at least proves that I'm a blocker. Doesn't necessarily prove I'm town, but it's a step in the right direction. (rereading what I posted, I realize that last line of "I just did" might sound snarky or sarcastic. It wasn't meant to at all. I'm just saying I'm saying it so you can confirm it now too)
Vincent Denis Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 Just now, Andrew Laurent said: Daniel, Fred, and myself know who each other was going to target, so we want our targets to confirm we actually did it without us saying who first as a prompt for potential scum to lie. *Fwom fwom fwom fwom* Well, Daniel didn't wait. *Fwom fwomma fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom*
Robin Tremblay Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 Wow we are already on page 2 of the manuscript. The vanilla role really threw us off, i am sorry, RIP Alex. I didn’t protect anyone last night. I would rather not get into the details of its limitations. We have a couple days of voting patterns and we possibly blocked another murder last night.
Andrew Laurent Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 Just now, Robin Tremblay said: We have a couple days of voting patterns and we possibly blocked another murder last night. Yep. I recommend we look at who got blocked last night - Fabien, Vincent, and person #3 who Fred blocked. No, it's not for certain that one of them is the scum killer. The scum could have been prevented in some other way. But there's a decent chance that one of those 3 is the scum killer. Of those 3, Fabien didn't bother to vote day 1 or 2 and placed the second vote on Justin day 3 and left it there all day. That doesn't feel scummy to me - lazy yes, but not scummy since they usually DON'T want to draw attention to their voting like that. Vincent has thrown votes all over the place. Person #3, well, I'll have to wait on that vote analysis.
Daniel Lucas Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 Okay, we're getting there. I created a table tracking our claims and supposed targets we know of. Correct me if something is wrong here please. 36 minutes ago, Vincent Denis said: Well, Daniel didn't wait. I am already confirmed as a blocker considering Alex was indeed Town. Anyway, I guess you confirmed getting blocked the night by not denying it, since we know you have a power role. Until we get new information, I think our best option is to go for one of the blocked players. This could've been a framing move by the killer, but I don't see any better odds at the moment.
Robin Tremblay Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: Okay, we're getting there. I created a table tracking our claims and supposed targets we know of. Correct me if something is wrong here please. I am already confirmed as a blocker considering Alex was indeed Town. Anyway, I guess you confirmed getting blocked the night by not denying it, since we know you have a power role. Until we get new information, I think our best option is to go for one of the blocked players. This could've been a framing move by the killer, but I don't see any better odds at the moment. You can update my n3 action to no one.
Andrew Laurent Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: Until we get new information, I think our best option is to go for one of the blocked players. This could've been a framing move by the killer, but I don't see any better odds at the moment. I concur. The odds are in our favor that one of the blocked people is the scum killer, since the scum wouldn't have known who we were blocking unless one of the 3 of us told them. Again, yes there's a chance there was no kill for another reason, but we've gotta go with the odds and the information we have.
Daniel Lucas Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 Just now, Andrew Laurent said: I concur. The odds are in our favor that one of the blocked people is the scum killer, since the scum wouldn't have known who we were blocking unless one of the 3 of us told them. Actually I have. I've told Robin at the very end of the night, in case both of you are scum and I'm getting killed. He read it and even replied before Bob wake us all up, so if someone could've calculated with this except us, it's him.
Vincent Denis Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 *Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom* Fred told me who he was blocking. He told me he'd be messaging "another random person" as well with his target. *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom*
Robin Tremblay Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: Actually I have. I've told Robin at the very end of the night, in case both of you are scum and I'm getting killed. He read it and even replied before Bob wake us all up, so if someone could've calculated with this except us, it's him. I didn’t talk to anyone else but you after you told me who was blocking who. And what was I supposed to do, not read your PM? Just now, Vincent Denis said: *Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom* Fred told me who he was blocking. He told me he'd be messaging "another random person" as well with his target. *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom* Apparently the coordinated blocks were leaked by the blockers. The scum probably knew everything last night.
Vincent Denis Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 *Fwom fwomma fwom fwom* I'm going to lay this out here now. Somebody roleclaimed to me last night and admitted they targeted Jean on Night Two. I found something very odd about this claim, but I'll reveal that later. Daniel, this person said they were going to send you the same information. Did you receive such a message? *Fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwomma fwooooom fwoooom* Bus comes, bus goes, she stay, love grows.
Andrew Laurent Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 Just now, Robin Tremblay said: Apparently the coordinated blocks were leaked by the blockers. The scum probably knew everything last night. That doesn't change the implication that one of the blocked people is the scum killer. The scum can't control being blocked, so if they knew that we were blocking them there's not much they could do (unless they have yet another blocker to block our blocker) If the scum killer is NOT one of the people we blocked, then it should have gone through (with again, a few exceptions due to other things preventing it).
Daniel Lucas Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 Just now, Robin Tremblay said: I didn’t talk to anyone else but you after you told me who was blocking who. And what was I supposed to do, not read your PM? No, I just had to tell the others. Just now, Robin Tremblay said: Apparently the coordinated blocks were leaked by the blockers. The scum probably knew everything last night. Maybe, maybe not. Fred's other contact should confirm this as well I guess. Just now, Vincent Denis said: Daniel, this person said they were going to send you the same information. Did you receive such a message? Yes. For what it's worth I find it a bit too convenient claim, since if tracked it can give an alibi to 'visit' Jean. Who is totally dead of course. I mean rest in pieces kind of dead.
Vincent Denis Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Andrew Laurent said: Vincent has thrown votes all over the place. *Fwom fwom— —the megablucks you talking about? In my memory, I've voted for four people this whole game. In what world have I thrown votes all over the place? On Day One, I voted for Andrew and Justin. On Day Two I voted for Joshua. On Day Three I voted for Justin and Alex. While I'm thinking about it, Fred, if you were coordinating with the two other claimed blockers, why would you need to tell me your block? Would both claimed blockers possibly be scum? Can the other person you sent your block information to confirm that? *Fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom*
Robin Tremblay Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 Just now, Daniel Lucas said: Yes. For what it's worth I find it a bit too convenient claim, since if tracked it can give an alibi to 'visit' Jean. Who is totally dead of course. Like a wagon (bus) driver?
Vincent Denis Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 Just now, Daniel Lucas said: Yes. For what it's worth I find it a bit too convenient claim, since if tracked it can give an alibi to 'visit' Jean. Who is totally dead of course. I felt the same way, that it was too convenient. My feeling was that he thought I might be the watcher and caught him on Night Two. Not giving away the person's identity, I think you can start to piece together the other thing I find odd about it. *Fwom fwom*
Andrew Laurent Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Vincent Denis said: —the megablucks you talking about? In my memory, I've voted for four people this whole game. In what world have I thrown votes all over the place? On Day One, I voted for Andrew and Justin. On Day Two I voted for Joshua. On Day Three I voted for Justin and Alex. While I'm thinking about it, Fred, if you were coordinating with the two other claimed blockers, why would you need to tell me your block? Would both claimed blockers possibly be scum? Can the other person you sent your block information to confirm that? Sorry, guess I was wrong. I think I assumed that among your walls of text there were heaps of votes. Daniel did (a couple on day 1, couple on day 2, and 5 on day 3) and I mixed that up in my memory.
Emmett Ware Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Andrew Laurent said: (rereading what I posted, I realize that last line of "I just did" might sound snarky or sarcastic. It wasn't meant to at all. I'm just saying I'm saying it so you can confirm it now too) I understand. I actually confirmed it a post before you on the advice of others anyway. I am having to venture out into the world today, so I haven't time to catch up. I promise to later.
Daniel Lucas Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Vincent Denis said: I think you can start to piece together the other thing I find odd about it. Maybe, I'm not sure. I find the first supposed target's identity even more curious. Would be interesting if someone could counterclaim that.
Fred Dumont Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, Vincent Denis said: While I'm thinking about it, Fred, if you were coordinating with the two other claimed blockers, why would you need to tell me your block? Would both claimed blockers possibly be scum? Can the other person you sent your block information to confirm that? *Fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom* Just in case both were scum I wanted to make sure there was someone other than the small group to know in case I got killed in the night.
Vincent Denis Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, Daniel Lucas said: Maybe, I'm not sure. I find the first supposed target's identity even more curious. Would be interesting if someone could counterclaim that. *Fwom fwom fwom fwom* Imagine Joshua was the killer on Night One and this person did target the person he said he targeted. What would scum target a townie with where the townie doesn't die or get blocked? In Pirates II, Scum had a framer. Now, imagine that an investigator and a framer had targeted the same person he says he targeted (apologies to everyone who doesn't know what we're talking about yet). How different would this game be today? *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwom*
Vincent Denis Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 My brain's working overtime on this now. What if the guy who PMed Daniel and me, let's call him Joe. What if Joe is a framer, would he also be a tailor? I was thinking the person Joe targeted, let's call him Frank, could be cleared, but if Joe is a framer/tailor, then Frank could be scum or town, still. I'm hoping Joe stops by soon so we can all have this conversation out in the open. *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom* scaramush! scaramush! Can you do the fandango? *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fweee!*
Bob Posted April 22, 2020 Author Posted April 22, 2020 "And a one, and a two, and a..." HONKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK "Sorry, boss." Vincent said. "Crows really seem attracted to my tuba for some reason. This one keeps messing up the sound." "What happened to the rest of the band?" Fabien asked. "What do you mean?" Robin replied. "I mean we had a full band in the last game, at least on Day One. Where did they all go?" "The last thing this game needs is more NPCs. Now keep on practicing!" HONKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK About 64 hours remain in this day.
Fred Dumont Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Vincent Denis said: My brain's working overtime on this now. What if the guy who PMed Daniel and me, let's call him Joe. What if Joe is a framer, would he also be a tailor? I was thinking the person Joe targeted, let's call him Frank, could be cleared, but if Joe is a framer/tailor, then Frank could be scum or town, still. I'm hoping Joe stops by soon so we can all have this conversation out in the open. *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom* scaramush! scaramush! Can you do the fandango? *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fweee!* I feel very lost reading your comment.
Aiden Leon Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 Man this is some good f*cking tea. I mean this is like somma that earl grey shit they drink across the pond.
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