Pirates Mafia III - Day Five

[Robin Tremblay]

8 minutes ago, Andrew Laurent said:

I already said above that Daniel, Fred, Emmett, and myself planned as a group who to block/jail/track. What I was referring to there though was when I announced in today's discussion what Daniel and I did. 

Right. 
On N3 all of the blockers leaked to 3 other people what was going to go down. Daniel leaked to me on N3.
 

Did that happen last night?

[Fabien Bellamy]

Okay, time to throw all the theories to the bin and start from fresh...

First of all, I'm sorry for Justin. He did everything to make himself look suspicious, and Daniel trying to veer the vote away from him twice didn't help.

Secondly, I'm sorry for Daniel. Had he been less pushy in a scummy way from his unconfirmed-Town pedestal, he would still be alive today.

That said, from my perspective we were stuck in a trap that I had suggested myself could happen in a game with so many blockers. The Scum could just stop killing until we'd lynch each other into defeat. Plus if one of the blockers was Scum, the coordination would keep Scum aware of Town's every move.

But if there really was one Scum among us three, I had to be Justin.

Anyway, what happened last night must be quite a shock to Scum, and I was waiting for a slip of the tongue that would help me help Town before it's too late. I'll share my thoughts on that later.

Because I'm the Town Vig, and Scum didn't kill last night. I know you will have to lynch me in order to prove it, but that's the price to pay for you to get back on track.

I strong-arm killed Daniel, and no blocker helped me. It doesn't mean one can't be Scum though, we're not working together. I had targeted Justin the night before, but I was blocked so I had to use strong-arm tonight. I can only do it once.

Now do keep in mind the information that Scum didn't kill last night, because you will have to adjust your actions accordingly. One less likely possibility is that Scum also tried to kill Daniel, and failed -- but what are the chances?

[Robin Tremblay]

20 minutes ago, Fabien Bellamy said:

Okay, time to throw all the theories to the bin and start from fresh...

First of all, I'm sorry for Justin. He did everything to make himself look suspicious, and Daniel trying to veer the vote away from him twice didn't help.

Secondly, I'm sorry for Daniel. Had he been less pushy in a scummy way from his unconfirmed-Town pedestal, he would still be alive today.

That said, from my perspective we were stuck in a trap that I had suggested myself could happen in a game with so many blockers. The Scum could just stop killing until we'd lynch each other into defeat. Plus if one of the blockers was Scum, the coordination would keep Scum aware of Town's every move.

But if there really was one Scum among us three, I had to be Justin.

Anyway, what happened last night must be quite a shock to Scum, and I was waiting for a slip of the tongue that would help me help Town before it's too late. I'll share my thoughts on that later.

Because I'm the Town Vig, and Scum didn't kill last night. I know you will have to lynch me in order to prove it, but that's the price to pay for you to get back on track.

I strong-arm killed Daniel, and no blocker helped me. It doesn't mean one can't be Scum though, we're not working together. I had targeted Justin the night before, but I was blocked so I had to use strong-arm tonight. I can only do it once.

Now do keep in mind the information that Scum didn't kill last night, because you will have to adjust your actions accordingly. One less likely possibility is that Scum also tried to kill Daniel, and failed -- but what are the chances?

What a load of BS! Of all the people you decide to kill you pick the jailer and you strongarmed him? I know he was annoying but that was just stupid.

[Robin Tremblay]

I updated yesterday's Night Tracker.

[Vincent Denis]

39 minutes ago, Fabien Bellamy said:

Now do keep in mind the information that Scum didn't kill last night, because you will have to adjust your actions accordingly. One less likely possibility is that Scum also tried to kill Daniel, and failed -- but what are the chances?

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Why would the scum kill fail on Daniel? This is mind-blowing. Why note suggest the scum tried to kill me on night three and Peter was the killer who was blocked last night? This theory that the scum and town killed is an unimaginative gambit to make us believe your killing Daniel wasn't the scum kill. Why not suggest Peter or I are the killer because it's verified we were blocked. Why would your kill go through and the "scum"'s fail? You could even try to say that maybe the scum tried to kill you but you were saved by Daniel's jailkeep. The lack of imagination is what is the scummiest about this claim. You were blocked on night three and there was no kill. You were blocked on night four but you strongarm killed Daniel. This takes away my reasoning that you chose Daniel to implicate me, so if you are scum, I can't figure out why you would admit that you killed him. 

9 minutes ago, Robin Tremblay said:

What a load of BS! Of all the people you decide to kill you pick the jailer and you strongarmed him? I know he was annoying but that was just stupid.

I don't think it's that far-fetched and if Fabien is scum, I'd say you're going out of your way to appear horrified and I'd guess you as his scum buddy. Did you protect anyone last night? Tell us you protected Daniel and Fabien's strongarm kill made you fail. If you think it's such BS, why isn't your post followed by a vote?

I PMed a few people last night with a post detailing why I thought Daniel could be scum. I was going to post it yesterday but was afraid it would be counter-productive and have Daniel freak the f out. But I had ten reasons Daniel might actually be scum and came up with additional ones the more I thought about it. If I was the vig, I would justifiably target Daniel because if he was scum, hooray, but if not the game would progress better without him. So I don't buy that anybody would think Daniel would be a stupid target for a vig. 

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Just now, Robin Tremblay said:

I updated yesterday's Night Tracker.

What the flying fuck, Robin? (Sorry to swear in disbelief, it's nothing personal. I love you  ) But seriously, what the flying fuck? In one post you're calling Fabien's claim BS and the next you're updating our Night Action target spreadsheet with the claims you don't believe?  

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[Robin Tremblay]

Just now, Vincent Denis said:

I don't think it's that far-fetched and if Fabien is scum, I'd say you're going out of your way to appear horrified and I'd guess you as his scum buddy. Did you protect anyone last night? Tell us you protected Daniel and Fabien's strongarm kill made you fail. If you think it's such BS, why isn't your post followed by a vote?

I PMed a few people last night with a post detailing why I thought Daniel could be scum. I was going to post it yesterday but was afraid it would be counter-productive and have Daniel freak the f out. But I had ten reasons Daniel might actually be scum and came up with additional ones the more I thought about it. If I was the vig, I would justifiably target Daniel because if he was scum, hooray, but if not the game would progress better without him. So I don't buy that anybody would think Daniel would be a stupid target for a vig. 

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I protected Emmett last night.

There is still plenty of time in the day to vote. I have often voted first and I don't want to rush after being wrong.

When do Vigilantes actually help town causes? It just racks up higher body counts. It would have been helpful to disclose that on D2 when we started making claims. Did Fabien also kill Jean on N2? Who knows, maybe he isn't just a vig, maybe he is a serial killer. His whole story is ridiculous.

[Vincent Denis]

28 minutes ago, Robin Tremblay said:

I protected Emmett last night.

There is still plenty of time in the day to vote. I have often voted first and I don't want to rush after being wrong.

When do Vigilantes actually help town causes? It just racks up higher body counts. It would have been helpful to disclose that on D2 when we started making claims. Did Fabien also kill Jean on N2? Who knows, maybe he isn't just a vig, maybe he is a serial killer. His whole story is ridiculous.

     What is happening right now?

Robin, if you think his story is BS, why did you add it to the Night Action sheet? Why is your theory that he's not "just a vig" but a serial killer. Why not scum? You're reaction is confusing at best.

Fabien, if you are the vig and you believe the scum didn't kill, the only option for you is to vote for me, because that would most likely make me the killer. Why haven't you voted for me? Is it because you know if I'm lynched today, I will flip town and you will be lynched on Day Six? Yes, if you are the vig, I can definitely think of other options as to who the killer is because I know damn well it isn't me. But if you are the vig, I believe you would immediately vote for me as it would be the most logical explanation for why we haven't seen the "scum" kill for two nights...

I'm leaning towards you being the scum killer, personally.

In other news, thank you. 

*Fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom*  The wicked witch! *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwooooooooooooooom!!!!!*

[Robin Tremblay]

Just now, Vincent Denis said:

     What is happening right now?

Robin, if you think his story is BS, why did you add it to the Night Action sheet? Why is your theory that he's not "just a vig" but a serial killer. Why not scum? You're reaction is confusing at best.

I think his story about being town is BS, not his actions. But if we are going to believe his ridiculous story then I will make a ridiculous theory that he is a serial killer...

Either way we should consider lynching him.

The tracker is for all declared actions and I thought others might find it useful.

 

[Robin Tremblay]

Ill making a voting tracker next.

Just taking a quick look back at our two main suspects:

Vincent was an early voter for Joshua but Fabien didn’t vote for Joshua.

[Trenton Monette]

I find it incredibly convenient that Fabien just happened to kill the person who was trying to block him last night. This makes me think he knew he was going to be blocked and took action before he could be stopped. 

4 hours ago, Fabien Bellamy said:

One less likely possibility is that Scum also tried to kill Daniel, and failed -- but what are the chances?

Why would the scum fail? I could see two kills cancelling out one another (as has happened in a previous game). But your kill has gone through so it can't be the case. 

[Aiden Leon]

I personally like the idea that scum are sitting on their asses. It's genius.

Vote: Andrew Laurent

[Emmett Ware]

8 hours ago, Fabien Bellamy said:

Because I'm the Town Vig, and Scum didn't kill last night. I know you will have to lynch me in order to prove it, but that's the price to pay for you to get back on track.

I strong-arm killed Daniel, and no blocker helped me. It doesn't mean one can't be Scum though, we're not working together. I had targeted Justin the night before, but I was blocked so I had to use strong-arm tonight. I can only do it once.

The scum would have been fools to kill Daniel, unless he was on to something, but even then, his blathering and overall uselessness would have never actually gotten anything accomplished, he was the best thing they had going for them. So I'm inclined to almost believe this claim. Problem is, why make the claim at all? I've seen a lot of vigs who screwed up (hell, most of them) and just kept quiet. Difference here, you needed to claim or you had a 50/50 chance of being lynched today. As goofy as claiming to have wrongly killed the scummiest townie in history might be, it could delay your death until tomorrow, scoring another victory for the scum if Vincent isn't one of them and you are. That's the point, isn't it? We're supposed to believe that you're harmless now, but we really don't know. We could possibly insure it, but that isn't definite either.

I can come up with theories and counter theories for every point in the game. For all the days of nonstop pointless chatter and charts of supposed night actions and voting patterns, we're not that much better off today than we were on day 1. Except it's a hell of a lot quieter, and for that, I salute you.

I will have to sleep on this and see where it leads me.

[Bob]

Vote Count:
Vincent Denis - 1 (Andrew Laurent)
Andrew Laurent - 1 (Aiden Leon)

About 55 hours remain in this day.

Meanwhile...

"Yarr, things are finally on the up for me. I've bandaged up my ears, dug this dusty raft out of storage, and am finally free."

"Soon, everything is going to come up Redbeard."

[Aiden Leon]

Looks

Loads gun

"Oi cunt where you think you're goin?

[Andrew Laurent]

3 hours ago, Aiden Leon said:

I personally like the idea that scum are sitting on their asses. It's genius.

Vote: Andrew Laurent

Huh? I'm the one who's been suggesting that scum are sitting back is a possible scenario, and I'm certainly not sitting on my keister, but then you vote for me? These two lines don't fit together.

 

Now, as for the overnight (at least in my timezone) bombshell... first, a vig taking out daniel does not tell us anything for sure about the scum. They COULD have also killed daniel and he's just double-dead. Or they could have tried to kill someone and failed because the killer was blocked. It's also possible that Fabien IS the scum killer trying to get away with it, and that would require a lynch to test out. 

Uh, now my head hurts. Need more caffeine to sort out this nonsense.

For the moment, since we now have more possiblities to consider, I will

Unvote: Vincent

since my main reason for wanting to lynch him was Daniel's death. Now that we have a chance that Daniel was town-killed, my reasons don't hold up as well. Happy Vincent? I'll do some more re-evaluating now that there's even more information.

[Vincent Denis]

19 minutes ago, Andrew Laurent said:

Happy Vincent? 

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Yes? I may be firing squad myself in the foot with this but I really think the lynch today should be me or Fabien.  Am I wrong?

I'm 50/50 on claiming my role. I'd like to keep it secret from the Scum but if it helps people get a clearer picture, I can still claim. It still has a use if it's publicly revealed. Aiden, you know what it is, what do you think? I'm interested in everyone's opinion on this. If people think it will help to reveal it, I will. 

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[Aiden Leon]

57 minutes ago, Vincent Denis said:

what do you think? If people think it will help to reveal it, I will. 

Nah you might get a chance to use it.

I wanted to use my govenor role to orchestrate a bait & switch or something for scum but it would have been way to complicated lol. Like say someone I thought was townie was investigated as scum, invoke a lot of reactions, disccusion, and voting, and then unlynch them.  Daniel probably would've ripped me to shreds.

[Peter Lyon]

19 hours ago, Andrew Laurent said:

Peter - was blocked Night 4 when Daniel was killed

I can confirm that I was blocked last night.

18 hours ago, Vincent Denis said:

I've updated this with Emmett's results and the conclusion is that the kill can be passed around.

Why was that the immediate conclusion?  Shouldn't it have been that the scum killer is one of Aiden or Fabien?  The only two folks who haven't been interfered with on either night 2 or 4?  Fabien has since come out and admitted killing on night 4.  If he's scum, there's no reason to think he didn't also off Jean on night 2 and the strongarm was not used on night 3.  

13 hours ago, Robin Tremblay said:

Right. 
On N3 all of the blockers leaked to 3 other people what was going to go down. Daniel leaked to me on N3.
 

Did that happen last night?

I was one of the folks that heard about one of the N3 blocking actions.  I got no such PM last night.

9 hours ago, Trenton Monette said:

I find it incredibly convenient that Fabien just happened to kill the person who was trying to block him last night. This makes me think he knew he was going to be blocked and took action before he could be stopped. 

Why would the scum fail? I could see two kills cancelling out one another (as has happened in a previous game). But your kill has gone through so it can't be the case. 

Of course he knew he was likely to be blocked based on the fact that he was blocked N3 and the day 4 discussion.

If we accept Fabien's claim of being the town vig, then it's possible that the scum were blocked (Vincent or me), the scum targeted Emmett (protected by Robin... assuming Robin is on the up), the scum also targeted Daniel, or the scum chose not to kill.

48 minutes ago, Vincent Denis said:

Yes? I may be firing squad myself in the foot with this but I really think the lynch today should be me or Fabien.  Am I wrong?

I'm 50/50 on claiming my role. I'd like to keep it secret from the Scum but if it helps people get a clearer picture, I can still claim. It still has a use if it's publicly revealed. Aiden, you know what it is, what do you think? I'm interested in everyone's opinion on this. If people think it will help to reveal it, I will. 

Is it just you and Aiden that know your role?

 

I want to walk through the kills from each night, assuming for now that all the claims so far are accurate.

Night 1:

Remi killed.  Fred (blocker) and Alex (vanilla) were blocked.  Vincent was tracked not targeting anyone.  Joshua (scum) was still alive.

The fact that Joshua is a possible killer makes this night basically impossible to analyze.

Night 2:

Jean killed.  Andrew (blocker) was blocked by Fred.  Robin was jailed by Daniel (confirmed by Emmett).  Andrew tried to block Fabien (failed, because he was blocked by Fred).

Possible killers: Me, Trenton, Aiden, Fabien, Vincent

Night 3:

No kill.  Vincent and Fabien (confirmed by Emmett) were blocked.

Night 4:

Daniel killed by Fabien, who admitted to using a strongarm to do so.

 

Fabien, who did you target nights 1 and 2?

[Vincent Denis]

13 minutes ago, Peter Lyon said:

Why was that the immediate conclusion?  Shouldn't it have been that the scum killer is one of Aiden or Fabien?  The only two folks who haven't been interfered with on either night 2 or 4?  Fabien has since come out and admitted killing on night 4.  If he's scum, there's no reason to think he didn't also off Jean on night 2 and the strongarm was not used on night 3.  

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That was the first conclusion I came up with since everyone except Aiden had been confirmed by other actions and nobody else seemed to be able to be the killer on multiple nights. This was an immediate response before I thought it out more thoroughly, which I practically did in real time with subsequent posts, not long after the post you quoted. Aiden claimed governor to me last night and I'm inclined to believe him although you'll see I still list him as a top suspect due to him never being blocked or tracked.

13 minutes ago, Peter Lyon said:

Is it just you and Aiden that know your role?

Correct.

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[Andrew Laurent]

The most obvious plan for today is what Vincent suggests. Lynch either him or Fabien, and see where things fall tomorrow. Out of those, I think we almost have to lynch Fabien as admitted killer - can we take the risk of leaving him alive in case he's actually scum? They could BOTH be scum, in which case Vincent isn't terribly worried about losing their killer as the kill ability would be passed along to another scum. 

So... Here's a thought... a potential plan. It'd test a lot of people at once.

Lynch Vincent, since he's still a possible scum killer.

Block Aiden, in case he's lying about his role and has something that could interfere. 

Tell Fabien to kill Aiden, have Emmett track him so that we know for sure if he goes after Aiden(not entirely necessary, but could be useful in case the scum try to screw with things). 

We get two of the possible scum out at once. If Fabien doesn't go along, we have an obvious lynch tomorrow. If Fabien will go along with it, then we have to consider if he's actually a vig or just playing along hoping to make it to the end and win for the scum team.

I'd initially written this with Aiden/Vincent flipped. But it's possible that Aiden as governor could un-lynch himself, and that'd screw things up. So he needs to be a night kill. 

 

The risk is obvious. If I'm completely wrong and Aiden/Vincent are both town, then we'd lose 2. But these are all 3 the people we suspect anyway, so why not test them faster? The alternative is to lynch Fabien or Vincent today, block Fabien if we decide to lynch Vincent over him, and then have the same debates tomorrow. 

[Vincent Denis]

8 minutes ago, Andrew Laurent said:

The risk is obvious. If I'm completely wrong and Aiden/Vincent are both town, then we'd lose 2. But these are all 3 the people we suspect anyway, so why not test them faster? The alternative is to lynch Fabien or Vincent today, block Fabien if we decide to lynch Vincent over him, and then have the same debates tomorrow. 

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Uuuuuuum...Maybe just because it involved lynching me, let alone the scummy plan to kill two potential townies while letting the claimed killer live and letting him kill someone, but this sounds like a bad plan. I admit I'm biased. Are you honestly suggesting we tell Fabien to kill Aiden and then track him?? Um, you can see the results of a kill, you know. The proof would be Aiden's dead body. Do you track him to prove that it was actually Fabien who killed Aiden? If you trust Fred, then why wouldn't Fabien "the vigilante" be able to kill? The only question you'd have if he targeted who he said he did is if Aiden isn't dead or there are two kills in one night. Is a better plan to lynch Fabien and then block me (yet again) and Aiden?

Andrew, who is "we?" Does anybody suspect me of being Scum, besides you? I'm not suggesting I'm on anybody's "definite Town" list, but I'm honestly asking because Daniel went off on me for four days and he, Justin and you were the only ones to ever vote for me. So without even knowing my role, please do me a favor and detail these suspicions. I would love to hear them out of someone's mouth, besides Daniel.

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[Aiden Leon]

51 minutes ago, Andrew Laurent said:

Tell Fabien to kill Aiden

Are you allowed to quote scum board messages?

[Peter Lyon]

1 hour ago, Vincent Denis said:

Correct.

Ok.

44 minutes ago, Andrew Laurent said:

The most obvious plan for today is what Vincent suggests. Lynch either him or Fabien, and see where things fall tomorrow. Out of those, I think we almost have to lynch Fabien as admitted killer - can we take the risk of leaving him alive in case he's actually scum? They could BOTH be scum, in which case Vincent isn't terribly worried about losing their killer as the kill ability would be passed along to another scum. 

So... Here's a thought... a potential plan. It'd test a lot of people at once.

Lynch Vincent, since he's still a possible scum killer.

Block Aiden, in case he's lying about his role and has something that could interfere. 

Tell Fabien to kill Aiden, have Emmett track him so that we know for sure if he goes after Aiden(not entirely necessary, but could be useful in case the scum try to screw with things). 

We get two of the possible scum out at once. If Fabien doesn't go along, we have an obvious lynch tomorrow. If Fabien will go along with it, then we have to consider if he's actually a vig or just playing along hoping to make it to the end and win for the scum team.

I'd initially written this with Aiden/Vincent flipped. But it's possible that Aiden as governor could un-lynch himself, and that'd screw things up. So he needs to be a night kill. 

 

The risk is obvious. If I'm completely wrong and Aiden/Vincent are both town, then we'd lose 2. But these are all 3 the people we suspect anyway, so why not test them faster? The alternative is to lynch Fabien or Vincent today, block Fabien if we decide to lynch Vincent over him, and then have the same debates tomorrow. 

I'd much rather lynch Fabien and block Vincent or lynch Vincent and block Fabien.  I don't think we want to let Fabien kill again.  That seems like a dangerous path if we don't trust him.  I believe he can kill and it seems reasonable to conclude that he's not lying about the strongarm ability being one shot.

 

At this point, I think Fabien should be the choice for today.  Vincent should be blocked again.  As far as I'm concerned, the primary case against either is the night kills and lack of one on N3.  Looking at day 2, Vincent voted for Joshua 3rd.  He did a reasonable job justifying that vote.  I didn't feel like reading through the rest of his posts that day in detail to see how well he followed up on it, but much of it was dedicated to his feud with Daniel (who's probably yelling at us from beyond the grave to lynch Vincent).  Fabien didn't comment much on Joshua after missing much of the first part of the day.  He got caught up in some of the feud, and really only commented that he didn't see how Joshua got so many votes.  He didn't end up voting that day at all.

Vote: Fabien Bellamy

 

 

[Aiden Leon]

6 minutes ago, Peter Lyon said:

Vincent voted for Joshua 3rd.  He did a reasonable job justifying that vote.

IMO I also revived the Josh wagon.

[Vincent Denis]

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1 minute ago, Peter Lyon said:

Looking at day 2, Vincent voted for Joshua 3rd.  He did a reasonable job justifying that vote.  I didn't feel like reading through the rest of his posts that day in detail to see how well he followed up on it, but much of it was dedicated to his feud with Daniel (who's probably yelling at us from beyond the grave to lynch Vincent). 

I don't feel like reading my posts from that day, either, to be honest. Apologies again. I can try to justify it 1000 times but I really am sorry I contributed to it. When you're being constantly accused like that...anyway, definitely don't read the page dedicated to the definition and correct use of the word "scummy" on Day One. It will kill brain cells. I think going through it, I suffered a mini-stroke. 

But, I at least remember the non-Daniel-argument substance of my posts, so for you or anybody else that wants to see my justifications for voting for Joshua, they're here:

On 4/11/2020 at 7:34 PM, Vincent Denis said:

I find the potential connection interesting between Andrew and Joshua. Andrew's vote could be WIFOM. Joshua's only contribution yesterday was saying that two people were against a lynch that actually weren't. Neither Justin nor Andrew have pointed this out in talking about Joshua's contributions and that's the scummiest thing Joshua has done. Justin says he's still suspicious of him because he didn't say much but makes no mention of what he did say. I'm still suspicious of Justin and Andrew but let's see where this goes:

Vote: Joshua Levitt

Most of the post I made while voting was aimed at Andrew, who I would've voted for (or Justin) had Jean not made his case. But then, these are my further interaction with Joshua:

On 4/13/2020 at 1:57 PM, Vincent Denis said:

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I'm not even saying you're lying about it. I said it could be true as town or scum. Regardless, you have only commented on the people pushing/not pushing for a lynch and Daniel distracting everyone from an effective scum hunt. I agree with you there! But are you getting anything from the other discussion? Can you go through the thread and just skip his posts?

Well, one of them has to come first. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I raised valid suspicions about Andrew, Justin and you without it having anything to do with Daniel. Yes, my suspicion is enhanced by the fact that he's doggedly defending you. Do Ctrl + F on any page and you'll see Andrew's name mentioned many, many more times than he's actually posted. There's a lot of discussion revolving around Andrew, who hasn't really said all that much. Or maybe he has, it's just hard to tell relative to Daniel. When someone is defending someone you're suspicious of, it's worth looking into and as you've mentioned, it's really really hard to look in this particular case. 

I wish we would've lynched the quietest, most flying-under-the-radar on a ship called The Enterprise but we didn't and that person turned out to be an incredibly patient scum. 

Sorry for the emoticon, we're missing a pirate wacko and that's what I needed for this. You're not doing yourself any favors by not reading the thread, even if it is due to the Daniel headaches, but you're not even reading your own words? Flying under the radar is one thing. Townies have valid reasons for doing so. But paying such little attention to the day thread indicates you have your focus on night activities.

Quietly for migraine sufferers: *Fwom fwom fwom fwom*

On 4/14/2020 at 2:43 PM, Vincent Denis said:

Part of me feels guilty, as I typically do about lynches, because if Joshua is who I think he is, this is a typical reaction to being incorrectly lynched.

However, at the same time I think his assessment of The Enterprise is off. The scum in that game, even the second iteration, hung back and only began posting more when prompted. So I'm 50/50 on this with sincerest apologies if you're really frustrated by all of this, Joshua. I believe the frustration, either way. Apologies more if it's town frustration.

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