Bob Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Players Only Please in your anonymous accounts! Make sure you change your password! Day Six: Fwoom Fwoom! With Fabien dead, it was up to Vincent as the only musician left to wake up the fort. FWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM The Garrison arrived and prepared to have breakfast. They noted how they'd all survived the night. "Hey." someone said. "I notice how we all survived the night." "I'm afraid I have some bad news." Governor Broadside started. "Fabien Bellamy was a Loyal Soldier." Everyone gasped. "Try better today please!" --- Day Six has now begun! There are 72 hours left in this day. With 8 players, a majority of 5 is required to send someone to the firing line. Players (8): Governor Broadside - NPC Fred Dumont - Lieutenant Peter Lyon - Lieutenant of the Fort Trenton Monette - Sergeant Emmett Ware - Soldier Andrew Laurent - Soldier Aiden Leon - Soldier Vincent Denis - Tubist Robin Tremblay - Conductor The Dead: Remi Blaise - Blown to pieces on Night One (Loyal Soldier) Michael Lavoie - Mod-killed on Night One (Loyal Soldier) Joshua Levitt - Executed on Day Two (Imperial Guard) Jean Pelley - Stabbed in the back on Night Two (Loyal Soldier) Alex Howe - Shot on Day Three (Loyal Soldier) Justin Reynaud - Executed on Day Four (Loyal Soldier) Daniel Lucas - Struck by a wheel on Night Four (Loyal Soldier) Fabien Bellamy - Shot on Day Five (Loyal Soldier) Rules (VERY IMPORTANT):1) Every player has received their own character account. Make sure you do not post in thread with your normal Eurobricks account. This game is anonymous, you are not to disclose your character anywhere on the forums. In thread, you must not say who you actually are. 2) In addition, it is a bit of an honor rule that you do not share who you are to any other player, even if they are on your team, in private.3) You are either a Loyal Soldier or an Imperial Guard. The town need to eliminate the scum and the scum need to outnumber the town. In the hopefully unlikely event of a parity, the scum will win. Any third party characters have their own win conditions.4) There are no recruits or any action similar in this game.5) A game day will last 72 hours. You may vote as soon as the day starts. Note, even if a majority vote is achieved, the day will not end early. Nights will last at most 48 hours, during which you can send in your night actions. If the day length needs to be shortened at any time, I will make that decision. 5a) Do not talk about the game outside of the threads. You can only PM during the night phase, please, including scum.6) The alignment of players who have been lynched, as well as those who may have died during the night, will be revealed at the beginning of the next day. The person playing the character that died will not be revealed until the end of the game.7) You may not quote or pretend to quote anything sent to you by the game host via PM. This includes the details of your character and role, as well as any night actions results. Role claims and reporting of results are acceptable, but in your own words only.8) If you die, you may not post in thread or discuss the game with any players. Any information you had is null and void and is not allowed to be passed on under any circumstances. When you die, you are not to reveal your identity or participation if you decided to sign up anonymously.9) Don't edit your posts, please! 10) Please try to post every day!11) There's no clues in pictures or the minifigures 12) I encourage roleplay with your characters! I have given some flavor text, but feel free to make them your own! Please ensure you are posting in the anonymous accounts that I have sent to you! Do not post in your Eurobricks account!
Andrew Laurent Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Well, I will play a trumpet fanfare in memory of our lost friend. He sacrificed himself to prove he was truthful. Toot Toooooooot Tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!! We now can safely believe he was telling the truth, as shocking as that is. There was no scum kill night 3 OR 4. So was Vincent the killer, since he was blocked both nights? Did they not use it? Did Robin (or Daniel N3) protect the target? Could they have something they're using instead of the kill, like a conversion? THAT is a terrifying thought! ARGHHHHH! Also, my block last night was successful. I won't say on who yet. I do know who Fred was planning to block, but I do not know who Emmett was planning to track.
Robin Tremblay Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 I protected my target but I don’t think anyone tried to kill my target either.
Andrew Laurent Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Hey, where is everyone? The day's been open for 3 minutes and no one else is posting yet. Are you a scum plotting together before you post? Oh wait, the scum can't day-PM. And joking about everyone being scum got me in hot water day 1, so I probably shouldn't do it. Just now, Robin Tremblay said: I protected my target but I don’t think anyone tried to kill my target either. Based on what? Do you get any indication that your protection was actual used, or are you just assuming that whoever you protected wasn't a likely target?
Robin Tremblay Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Just now, Andrew Laurent said: Based on what? Do you get any indication that your protection was actual used, or are you just assuming that whoever you protected wasn't a likely target? I got no indication that my protection was used.
Andrew Laurent Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Ok, so just your gut call then? Nothing wrong with that; I just want to make sure we're working with accurate information and not turning opinions into proven facts.
Andrew Laurent Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Just now, Aiden Leon said: Cock Again, with such helpful input. Anything useful you'd like to add to the discussion?
Robin Tremblay Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Andrew Laurent said: Ok, so just your gut call then? Nothing wrong with that; I just want to make sure we're working with accurate information and not turning opinions into proven facts. Im not sure what you mean?
Andrew Laurent Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 I just wanted clarification on your comment that you didn't think anyone tried to kill your target. That could mean that your result PM said that, in which case we would KNOW that no one tried to kill your target. Or you could have just been giving your opinion. Both are good information - this game is all about opinions. I just wanted clarity as to which that statement was, so that we don't make bad analysis down the road due to it. (in case you can't guess... in real life I work in R&D at a small company, and I deal all day long with people in our sales dept who make up numbers and don't know the difference between a proven fact and a vague guess. And it drives me insane....)
Robin Tremblay Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Just now, Andrew Laurent said: I just wanted clarification on your comment that you didn't think anyone tried to kill your target. That could mean that your result PM said that, in which case we would KNOW that no one tried to kill your target. Or you could have just been giving your opinion. Both are good information - this game is all about opinions. I just wanted clarity as to which that statement was, so that we don't make bad analysis down the road due to it. (in case you can't guess... in real life I work in R&D at a small company, and I deal all day long with people in our sales dept who make up numbers and don't know the difference between a proven fact and a vague guess. And it drives me insane....) I got no message back about my action, hope thats clear. (I also work with sales people and I consider them employees for our clients. I wish we could fire them all)
Vincent Denis Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 *Fwoooooooooooooom fwoooooooooooooooooooooom* Fuck. This. Game. Prepare yourself for a wall of text. Perhaps the longest wall of text I've ever composed but here goes. OK, I have a potential explanation for where the Scum kill is going. I'll preface this by saying I'm sure I'll be lynched as well I should be. Being blocked on three nights where there was no scum kill, that's a policy lynch. You kind of have to. No hard feelings. But I'm not a killer and I'm not Scum. I'm bulletproof. Do I actually think the Scum have tried to kill me three nights in a row? No. Why would they? I've been abysmally wrong about everything in this game. Daniel wasted most of the first four days, heaping suspicion onto me, all of which was invalid. Why would they want to kill me with him around to create confusion for them to hide behind? Have they been doing what Fabien suggested and not killing? Possibly. If they intended to not kill for three days so we would lynch all three of those blocked players, it worked. Well, it did if I get lynched, which I should. Aiden guessed that I was a PGO or Bomb when I first said my role was more useful if I didn't claim it to everyone and then added that I didn't successfully target anyone. I didn't target anyone because I don't target anyone. I didn't successfully target anyone. I didn't gleefully target anyone. I didn't surreptitiously target anyone. I didn't target anyone. If I said I don't target anyone, I figure the Scum would guess I have a passive role and how many passive roles are there? I figured they would guess, as Aiden did, PGO or Bomb and avoid trying to kill me. I also wanted them to think I did something important so they would try to kill me. I've been trying to get killed because I want them to waste their kill on me. Did that happen three nights in a row? Maybe, but I doubt it. I've asked, in thread, let alone to several people via PM that I not be protected. Because I knew it was a waste of a good protection. That's why I told Daniel that my role was useless if revealed to the wrong person but the Town would succeed without me (because I'm not a watcher or investigator) so I preferred not to be protected. That's also why when Daniel PMed me asking if I wanted to work together, and that felt scummy, I wasn't afraid to tell him to fuck off and threaten that I was going to post his PMs to everyone on Day Two. I wanted to be targeted by the scum kill. Fuck Governor Broadside for telling us to try harder, I've put 100% of myself into this game and it's turned up nothing. I was wrong about Justin, I was wrong about Fabien. I don't see the Scum finding value in killing me, so while it's possible, I wouldn't find myself a viable kill target for the Scum, because if I was Scum I'd want me around. Find this hard to believe? I told you with my first post on Day Two that I was: On 4/10/2020 at 5:04 PM, Vincent Denis said: *Bwom fwom fwomma fwomma* Um, sorry to immediately post and take up more space after yesterday's marathon squabbles with Daniel. Let me explain something important, though. Lucas PMed me last night and asked if I was ready to work with him. Ever PM the person you're most suspicious of and ask them to work together? To me, it's concerning. Prodding Daniel further about this concern, he claims that he PMed others to ask their opinion of me and he "got the feeling I'd be truly town" from those conversations. Regarding that, can anyone confirm having these conversations with him? Otherwise, it seems forced like maybe his scum buddies told him he went too far and should try to smooth it over. Or he was fishing for my night action. Feels weird to me that he would be so sure all day that I was scum and then suddenly ask to work together. Go ahead and look back at the thread. I did it before Daniel did it and I did it long before he revealed he had done it and berated us all for being too stupid to do it. Let me take this moment to thank Daniel for so heavily and incorrectly suspecting me that I just had to be blocked on the night this all started. I'm not a killer and I'm not Scum so this has done nothing but waste a block for three days and now potentially get three Townies lynched. The Town has to win this. We have to succeed and overcome what Daniel did to this game. If I get lynched in the process, fine. But, Town, we better fucking win this. There's more, sorry. This is just a technicality but I feel it needs to be addressed. On 4/10/2020 at 5:04 PM, Vincent Denis said: *Bwom fwom fwomma fwomma* Um, sorry to immediately post and take up more space after yesterday's marathon squabbles with Daniel. Let me explain something important, though. Lucas PMed me last night and asked if I was ready to work with him. Ever PM the person you're most suspicious of and ask them to work together? To me, it's concerning. Prodding Daniel further about this concern, he claims that he PMed others to ask their opinion of me and he "got the feeling I'd be truly town" from those conversations. Regarding that, can anyone confirm having these conversations with him? Otherwise, it seems forced like maybe his scum buddies told him he went too far and should try to smooth it over. Or he was fishing for my night action. Feels weird to me that he would be so sure all day that I was scum and then suddenly ask to work together. Some other gems from our conversations were him telling me that working with him would be my "best shot." Um, something about it being my choice to trust him or not and not to say later that he hadn't proposed it. Really not sure what to make of any of that. Very odd interaction. I daresay the strangest day and night 1 I've ever experienced. Very annoying, altogether and I'm including my own behavior in that. Oh no, don't want to rehash any, just thought it important to report the odd night interaction after yesterday's events. Right now, though, I'd like to look at what Remi contributed yesterday. *Fwooooom fwom fwooooooom fwom fwooooooom fwooooooooom fwoooooooooooooooom* It says "Bulletproof Survivor." The name of my role is Survivor. I'm not a Survivor. As I said before, I went back and forth with Bob a lot when I first got my role PM as that is confusing. But I don't win just by surviving to the end. I'm not neutral. I'm a bulletproof Townie that has apparently been named "Survivor" because I survive every night. After Daniel's behavior on Day One, I hid the entire role and name in my first post on Day Two as I felt I'd be forced to claim at some point. After I made the post I asked Bob if a rolecop would see the name Survivor, which I had been assuming they would. But he said it would only say that I had no action and I was like "Fuck, now I have to do another one so the word "Survivor" doesn't confuse people." But I didn't do it before Daniel revealed he had done it and pride stopped me from making another one after that, so that's why it says "Bulletproof Survivor." I thought if I'd been targeted by a rolecop they'd accuse me of being neutral, which is something Peter called me on Day Two: On 4/10/2020 at 6:23 PM, Peter Lyon said: Vincent said he was "typically" for it (very neutral) After Peter posted that, I asked Bob for clarification of how a rolecop would see me. That's all I've got. I highly suspect Trenton and Peter. But take my suspicions with a grain of salt because I haven't been right about jack shit so far. I realize this claim would've helped Fabien yesterday but I really really didn't think he was Town. I'm sorry. If I get lynched, I'm fine with it. Sorry I've sucked this game. I was really hoping it would be fun. It has been challenging, at best. No offense to the host. But that's all my cards on the table. *Fwooom fwooooom, fwom fwomma fwom* Take a sad song and make it better! *Fwom fwomma. fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom*
Andrew Laurent Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Dang Vincent... while that was a wall, it was a readable wall and a useful wall. We were all there with ya on Justin, and most of us were there with ya on Fabien (I didn't want to lynch him but for the entirely wrong reasons!) And yes, we wasted some blocks on you. So be it. Can't go back now. And I'm sure not one to overly question your role name, since I'm a vanillaizer that isn't really what that typically means either. But whatever... we need to focus on succeeding. For all of our sanity! In case anyone hasn't realized it, we are possibly at LyLo now. If we started with 4 scum, there's 3 left. We have 8 players. If we lynch another townie and the scum succeed in a kill tonight, they win. Period. bob's rules say that scum win at parity not just when they outnumber the town. I even checked that with bob, since I was worried about the possibility that Fabien was a vengeful vigilante and would kill Vincent - and if they were both town AND the scum pulled off a kill, day 6 wouldn't have happened. We'd be reading the conclusion now. Brace yourselves, I'm gonna think out loud here a bit.... As much as I gave Vincent some verbal hugs there, we gotta consider if he's telling the truth. Is he the scum killer and deceiving us? Why would he be trying to get lynched, since yes, us policy lynching him is likely. What if he and Aiden are both scum. V is the killer and Aiden really IS a governor. So we waste a lynch on scum-Vincent because scum-Aiden saves him? A scum governor feels way overpowered, but is it really? We've seen enough other odd roles in this game. A scum governor really only saves the person for 1 night since they'll probably be re-lynched the next day, and then the governor the day after that. Aka, its only useful as an end of game gambit. If that's the case, would they be pulling it now? No, because that doesn't give them the win. Undoing the lynch and night killing someone at best gives them 4:3 numbers, so not a win yet. And we'd re-lynch tomorrow, and they'd probably end up losing. So scratch that whole idea. I've talked myself through to it being not realistic. Is scum-Vincent fake-claiming, hoping that with the whole day ahead he can talk his way OUT of a policy lynch (since we see how good we've been at lynching), and then not be blocked tonight so he can carry out the kill? THAT makes much more sense. And it could work out... Night 1 Emmett saw vincent do nothing. Because Joshua was the original scum killer. Day 2, Joshua is lynched and the kill moved to Vincent, who took out Jean. Nights 3, 4, and 5, no scum kills... cause Vincent was blocked. Thoughts? I would love to leave that there and get everyone's input. But I can't, because I know it's not possible quite like that. Last night we TOLD Vincent he was being blocked again, but we did not block him. So unless he was a foolish scum killer who took our word for it and didn't send in a kill attempt, he would have gotten a kill last night. So crap, that possibility probably doesn't work either. Any other scenarios in which Vincent is scum? I can't think of any more right now (it's bedtime) so for now, I'm keeping V in my town column even though I REALLY thought with how the voting went that he and Fabien HAD to be on opposite sides.
Emmett Ware Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Just now, Andrew Laurent said: Nights 3, 4, and 5, no scum kills... cause Vincent was blocked. Thoughts? I have one very specific thought, if you can confirm whether or not my idea was used last night. I will say this. I'm tired of the town being suicidal. The scum aren't winning, we're just giving it away. Stop this shit. If you're town and of any value, and everyone is of some value at this point, just stop the nonsense. It's like people are throwing intentionally and I'm sick of it.
Andrew Laurent Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Just now, Emmett Ware said: I have one very specific thought, if you can confirm whether or not my idea was used last night. Which idea? To tell Vincent he's blocked but then block 2 other people instead? Yes, that's what we did as I said later in that post. I blocked who I said I would in our discussion. I assume Fred did the same, but I have no proof of that yet.
Emmett Ware Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Just now, Andrew Laurent said: Which idea? To tell Vincent he's blocked but then block 2 other people instead? Yes, that's what we did as I said later in that post. I blocked who I said I would in our discussion. I assume Fred did the same, but I have no proof of that yet. So we know this isn't 3 days in a row where Vincent was blocked. And still no kill. I will not be voting for Vincent today, no matter how idiotically suicidal he acts. As for Fred, he targeted Peter as requested. I tracked him to be sure. Sorry I missed the big reveal of the fake block on Vincent, but it's been such a wordy game that I'm down to scanning and clearly that's sloppy. Maybe someone should kill me.
Vincent Denis Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 *Fwom fwom* 44 minutes ago, Andrew Laurent said: Nights 3, 4, and 5, no scum kills... cause Vincent was blocked. Thoughts? 44 minutes ago, Andrew Laurent said: Last night we TOLD Vincent he was being blocked again, but we did not block him. Yeah, I have a thought. How can you say there were no scum kills because I was blocked on a night I wasn't blocked? Some clarity there, please? I realize you've clarified since, so but it's weird that you ruminated on something that hadn't happened. Well, I feel less like I should be lynched today then. Maybe I was the kill target on Night Three? And I was bulletproof and protected by Daniel. Maybe the Scum thought they'd get rid of someone who seemed to be concealing an important role and maybe shut Daniel the fuck up at the same time? And then perhaps Peter has been the killer. The only person further under the radar than Peter is Trenton. *Fwomma fwomma fwomma*
Fred Dumont Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 59 minutes ago, Emmett Ware said: So we know this isn't 3 days in a row where Vincent was blocked. And still no kill. I will not be voting for Vincent today, no matter how idiotically suicidal he acts. As for Fred, he targeted Peter as requested. I tracked him to be sure. Sorry I missed the big reveal of the fake block on Vincent, but it's been such a wordy game that I'm down to scanning and clearly that's sloppy. Maybe someone should kill me. Confirming this. I blocked Mr. Denis and was succsessful.
Vincent Denis Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Just now, Fred Dumont said: Confirming this. I blocked Mr. Denis and was succsessful. The fuck? Was I blocked or not?? *Fwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooom*
Robin Tremblay Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Fred Dumont said: Confirming this. I blocked Mr. Denis and was succsessful. What is happening??
Emmett Ware Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Just now, Vincent Denis said: The fuck? Was I blocked or not?? You're not the only one confused... I know for a fact he targeted Peter, so wth?
Fred Dumont Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Sorry, meant Peter. I need to not drink so early in the morning.
Vincent Denis Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Emmett Ware said: I'm tired of the town being suicidal. 1 hour ago, Emmett Ware said: Maybe someone should kill me. That funny. *Fwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom*
Peter Lyon Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Yes, I was blocked. I will say that I would not have approached Fabien's situation the way that he did, but I think that given the lack of a kill last night we're not in such a bad state. We're all still here and he accomplished what he hoped, having us narrow the field down. 2 hours ago, Andrew Laurent said: What if he and Aiden are both scum. V is the killer and Aiden really IS a governor. So we waste a lynch on scum-Vincent because scum-Aiden saves him? A scum governor feels way overpowered, but is it really? We've seen enough other odd roles in this game. A scum governor really only saves the person for 1 night since they'll probably be re-lynched the next day, and then the governor the day after that. Aka, its only useful as an end of game gambit. If Aiden is scum, he's probably not a governor.
Vincent Denis Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, Peter Lyon said: Yes, I was blocked. From doing what? Tell us your action, please? *Fwomma fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom fwom* Everybody walk the dinosaur! *Fwomma fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom fwom*
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