I present to you mine new creation B model of 42093 set and creations for TC18 Contest-Trophy Truck. This car is made only from Corvette ZR1 bricks. It's been a challenge for me to make it full suspensions car without any springs. But i think i did well. Size 30x15x12 I'm also wanted to make a roll of cage but I had no more right parts.

Functions:
-Hands of god steering
-Full suspensions-independet front suspension with positive caster in front axle and solid axle in rear.
-Detachable body
-You can open car hood

 

I also made instructions: https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-41658/blaz62/42093-c-model-trophy-truck/?inventory=1#comments

 

 

 

Edited May 6, 20204 yr by blaz62

Interesting c-model, proportions are somehow strange.

What are the spring elements for suspension?

Brilliant! Can't believe you got such a nice suspension action with zero suspension parts. I'll have a go with the instructions today.

It is good to see another alternative model in contest.

There is a famous (in nz) saying 

Yeah Na Bro. 

 

So I'm only part way through but this model has issues already:

Step 15 shows 6x 6632 in black - the kit only contains 4x.

Step 25 already shows there's an illegal build here: the wishbones and steering rack are occupying the same spot. 

Edited May 6, 20204 yr by amorti

Finished now:

This isn't a legit C-model:

1. Step 15 shows 6x 6632 in black - the kit only contains 4x.
2. You've also used an extra 2L axle.

The steering and suspension collide, Neither works properly.
The whole thing is wobbly as well as ugly.

Feel free to refund the 4,50€ I paid you 

Edited May 6, 20204 yr by amorti

Just now, amorti said:

Finished now:

This isn't a legit C-model:

1. Step 15 shows 6x 6632 in black - the kit only contains 4x.
2. You've also used an extra 2L axle.

The steering and suspension collide, Neither works properly.
The whole thing is wobbly as well as ugly.

Feel free to refund the 4,50€ I paid you 

What you don't have two extra 6632 pieces and a 2L axle lying around?

Edited May 6, 20204 yr by Bartybum

Just now, Bartybum said:

What you don't have two extra 6632 pieces and a 2L axle lying around?

Of course I do. But if you want to call it a C-model, you only get to use the pieces in the kit. 

Just now, amorti said:

Of course I do. But if you want to call it a C-model, you only get to use the pieces in the kit. 

Oh the horror. You paid money for trophy truck instructions and had to use three extra pieces of which you have plenty of spares.

This is the risk you have to accept when buying unofficial models

Edited May 6, 20204 yr by Bartybum

17 minutes ago, Bartybum said:

Oh the horror. You paid money for trophy truck instructions and had to use three extra pieces of which you have plenty of spares.

This is the risk you have to accept when buying unofficial models

Did you read my post?

I have two issues with the model:

1. it's mis-described as a C-model. I raise this as an invitation to the designer to correct the parts list on rebrickable, which is incorrect and shows no extra parts required. There shouldn't be risks as you describe, because the parts list on rebrickable should be correct.
2. it's janky, and not worth the premium tag.

Edited May 6, 20204 yr by amorti

4 minutes ago, amorti said:

Did you read my post?

I have two issues with the model:

1. it's mis-described as a C-model. I raise this as an invitation to the designer to correct the parts list on rebrickable, which is incorrect and shows no extra parts required.
2. it's janky, and not worth the premium tag.

Of course I read your post.

1. If having three extra common pieces is seriously that big of an issue to you then I think there's bigger problems going on here.
2. If that's your opinion that's fine, but it doesn't entitle you to a refund. You wanted instructions for a MOC, you got instructions for a MOC.

If you had only said you thought the model was crap and not worth buying, then I wouldn't have even responded to you. What ticked me off was the demand for a refund.

Edited May 6, 20204 yr by Bartybum

5 minutes ago, Bartybum said:

If you had only said you thought the model was crap and not worth buying, then I wouldn't have even responded to you. What ticked me off was the demand for a refund.

Alright, let's go with that instead. 

Anyone looking for a C-model for 42093 has ample choice with Grohl's series of free C-models which all look good, can be built with no extra parts, and actually work.

Even if like me you're curious as to how he got suspension (spoiler alert - axles in tension and colliding parts) I recommend to give this one a swerve.

Edited May 6, 20204 yr by amorti

Just now, amorti said:

Alright, let's go with that instead. 

Anyone looking for a C-model for 42093 has ample choice with Grohl's series of free C-models which all look good, can be built with no extra parts, and actually work.

Even if like me you're curious as to how he got suspension (spoiler alert - axles in tension and colliding parts) I recommend to give this one a swerve.

There we go, much better

1 hour ago, Bartybum said:

This is the risk you have to accept when buying unofficial models

No. If you claim a C model with no additional parts required but in fact some additional parts are required, you're in fault. Not the buyer. 

And quite frankly, I don't get the point in designing exotic suspension systems with the parts from the original model if you use extra parts elsewhere: just use shocks as extra parts, et voilà...

 

Maybe sometimes it would be better to have a limited number and inventory of parts, I never thought to said this but I am seeing with so many good C models that could be good for everyone.

14 minutes ago, 1980SomethingSpaceGuy said:

No. If you claim a C model with no additional parts required but in fact some additional parts are required, you're in fault. Not the buyer. 

I agree... only if you don’t have the pieces. But if you do, like amorti does, then there’s nothing to fret about. In any case, @blaz62 the onus is on you to change the description to explicitly mention the extra parts, because while unlikely, some people might not have them.

Edited May 6, 20204 yr by Bartybum

8 minutes ago, Bartybum said:

change the description to explicitly mention the extra parts, because while unlikely, some people might not have them.

This. 

I apologize for the inconvenience. I made a mistake in the instructions not in model. Insted of middle two 6632 parts must be one 4142822 part. I strictly created these model separately of other bricks. I apologize again and I will refund you and thank you for the warning!

Customer care is on top! 

New version on instruction in on. I'm also dropped the price of instruction. 

@amorti

I returned the purchase price to you. Steering work vell as you can se on video. It took me quite some time to get it done. The first axis acts on the torsions system of axle and the last rear on axis bending. But you can’t expect the same as with a spring suspensions systems. 

If i make a mistake in the instructions does not mean that the car is bad.  

Thanks.

Well done fixing the instructions quickly. What you've changed makes it a proper C models and makes it easier to construct, too.

You can see the collision in step 25. I guess there had to be compromises but I'm still not convinced by that front end. When you steer you can see it trying to pull out the black pins in the steering rack because of the collision, this adds friction and it doesn't work nice.

Did you try using shorter 2L connector pieces to catch the front of the torsion bars? Might not collide then, maybe. Idk and I already took it apart, it's not one for me.

Edited May 6, 20204 yr by amorti

23 hours ago, amorti said:

You can see the collision in step 25

If it's collision then you must do something wrong. For help you can use these pictures.

In the instructions step 25 shows the pieces which are occupying the same space. Look closely, you'll see they overlap in the drawing.

I made little modification of front mask and added v8 motor instead straight 4.