Lego City 2021 Rumours, information and discussion

[Legocitycustoms]

3 hours ago, toopizza13 said:

now technic 2021 has been leaked, im going to say 2021 city could be leaked any day

Ow ? Where can I see the leaks ? Or are we not allowed to link here ?

[BrickfordCityFire]

1 hour ago, TeriXeri said:

Baseplates still exist, just that larger City sets been mostly sprawling smaller builds now.

Road Plates, 48x48 Grey, and 32x32 (bright)Green/White/Blue are still available.

Of course selling Tan, and Light/Dark grey 32x32 plates would be nice.

But I don't really miss baseplates in sets, back in the old days there were no 8x8 , 8x16 , or 16x16 regular plates.

I understand LEGO puts baseplates in sets that fully use them, but they don't really make much sense in a smaller set, and City sets are already pretty bad price ratio at times.

Still, to fit in the discussion of 2021, the 60236 Straight & T-junction and 60237 Curves & Crossroad are on the "maybe retiring" lists, personally I wouldn't mind an entirely new design. 

Well, if the leaks are correct, 32x32 road plates are going bye bye which is really sad.

[TeriXeri]

5 hours ago, BrickfordCityFire said:

Well, if the leaks are correct, 32x32 road plates are going bye bye which is really sad.

Edit, ok didn't read that the road baseplates going away completely, now seeing the promobricks article, ok that's fairly sad for existing Cities / City layout expansion.

Edited September 13, 2020 by TeriXeri

[Vindicare]

22 hours ago, brimbolet said:

Here is the link:

https://www.promobricks.de/lego-city-strassenbauplatten-2021/

According to them the new (higher) road plates won't fit with the modular line... has anybody more info on this? Sounds terrible!

I hate this idea. At first I was open to it because I could actually use turns other than the T plates in my town(not a fan of the jagged sidewalk on curve plates). But then I read more & it’s 16x16 plates. That’s ridiculously stupid. It would be way too expensive, regardless of the price. For one, I’d need 4 of these new plates to replace one(17 in total plus unused extras) street plate. And a lot more to put my Modulars and other stuff on. 

[The Island Chronicles]

The old baseplates will always be better than these new ones. I'm about to go road baseplate shopping. 

[Powered by Bricks]

@Fenghuang0296 thanks for the information,but one question... Will Lego release city 2021 sets with those new baseplates? 

[The Island Chronicles]

2 hours ago, Powered by Bricks said:

@Fenghuang0296 thanks for the information,but one question... Will Lego release city 2021 sets with those new baseplates? 

Why do I have the feeling that the 2021 wave of City will be even more of a disappointment than 2020?

[TeriXeri]

I personally am ok with LEGO moving to a new system, but this system of large plates/tiles might end up costing more then actual road plates in terms of surface, on the other hand, using actual LEGO plates will look better with sets.

I can see the customizability of this however, for custom sized roads, alleys, and docks, maybe not with round turns, but still hope.

This also looks to be more compatible with smaller layouts of City or 3-in-1 scale buildings.

I don't have a large table layout, so smaller 16x16 road modules might work better for shelves or facades of open-backed (3-in-1 scale) buildings.

Overall, I'll judge when I see the new system.

The main potentially negative thing I read is stickers for crosswalks, meh.

 

When I started collecting City back around 2018, I didn't want to collect regular road plates as I didn't like the design that much (the sidewalk has less studs compared to the 80s and 90s roads as well), and since the design is now 15 years old, I was already expecting some new system eventually.

Connecting large plates onto baseplate studs was really annoying as well, usually had to raise it with a smaller studded area between baseplate and the plate.

A while back I got around 20 of those cardboard double sided road plates from City / Friends, while certainly not as nice as actual baseplates, they do function fairly well as temporary layout for me.

I can see the concerns of height compared to Modulars as a plate is a bit higher then a baseplate, but until we'll see new 2021 sets, not sure what will happen.

 

 

Diagon Alley is open-back and on 16x32 baseplates, while Haunted House is on 16x16 plates and hinged. Wouldn't surprise me to see further modulars be on 16x16 plates and possibly hinged.

 

 

Edited September 13, 2020 by TeriXeri

[Vindicare]

4 hours ago, TeriXeri said:

I personally am ok with LEGO moving to a new system, but this system of large plates/tiles might end up costing more then actual road plates in terms of surface, on the other hand, using actual LEGO plates will look better with sets.

I can see the customizability of this however, for custom sized roads, alleys, and docks, maybe not with round turns, but still hope.

This also looks to be more compatible with smaller layouts of City or 3-in-1 scale buildings.

I don't have a large table layout, so smaller 16x16 road modules might work better for shelves or facades of open-backed (3-in-1 scale) buildings.

Overall, I'll judge when I see the new system.

The main potentially negative thing I read is stickers for crosswalks, meh.

 

When I started collecting City back around 2018, I didn't want to collect regular road plates as I didn't like the design that much (the sidewalk has less studs compared to the 80s and 90s roads as well), and since the design is now 15 years old, I was already expecting some new system eventually.

Connecting large plates onto baseplate studs was really annoying as well, usually had to raise it with a smaller studded area between baseplate and the plate.

A while back I got around 20 of those cardboard double sided road plates from City / Friends, while certainly not as nice as actual baseplates, they do function fairly well as temporary layout for me.

I can see the concerns of height compared to Modulars as a plate is a bit higher then a baseplate, but until we'll see new 2021 sets, not sure what will happen.

 

 

Diagon Alley is open-back and on 16x32 baseplates, while Haunted House is on 16x16 plates and hinged. Wouldn't surprise me to see further modulars be on 16x16 plates and possibly hinged.

 

 

I like the versatility of building one’s own streets & I won’t count it out just yet(despite my initial hate of the idea). I don’t even really mind the stickers for crosswalks. I can’t see them switching the Modulars to plates though. That would ruin one of the biggest features of the line, connection to make a street. Not after 13 years of sets being that way.  

[ReplicaOfLife]

Retiring the classic road baseplates has to be one of the stupidest decisions Lego made in the past two decades.

From what I read about the replacements, they'll propably better fit in with AFOL layouts (who often have brick-built roads anyway), but that's about it.
You need more of them for the same amount of road surface and the individual lanes are narrower at just 6-wide (most City trucks are wider, and the popular Speed Champions line just switched to 8-wide vehicles!). Did they ever look at the vehicles they are producing when they designed this?!

Plus, and this is the most crucial part, imo: With just a few of the road baseplates, a kid can easily build up a suggestion of the city, and there was room to build stuff on at the sides. Granted, we all know Lego doesn't want kids to build anything other than the official sets anymore, but that's just ridiculously stupid. Imagination is everything when kids play with Lego, and the road baseplates provided ample room for the imagination to run wild.

[The Island Chronicles]

29 minutes ago, ReplicaOfLife said:

Retiring the classic road baseplates has to be one of the stupidest decisions Lego made in the past two decades.

From what I read about the replacements, they'll propably better fit in with AFOL layouts (who often have brick-built roads anyway), but that's about it.
You need more of them for the same amount of road surface and the individual lanes are narrower at just 6-wide (most City trucks are wider, and the popular Speed Champions line just switched to 8-wide vehicles!). Did they ever look at the vehicles they are producing when they designed this?!

Plus, and this is the most crucial part, imo: With just a few of the road baseplates, a kid can easily build up a suggestion of the city, and there was room to build stuff on at the sides. Granted, we all know Lego doesn't want kids to build anything other than the official sets anymore, but that's just ridiculously stupid. Imagination is everything when kids play with Lego, and the road baseplates provided ample room for the imagination to run wild.

I totally agree! This'll definitely be a huge blow to Lego's finances. Road baseplates have been a great seller since before the dark ages. 

Edited September 13, 2020 by Brandon Pea

[dlmorgan999]

20 hours ago, TeriXeri said:

Baseplates still exist, just that larger City sets been mostly sprawling smaller builds now.

Road Plates, 48x48 Grey, and 32x32 (bright)Green/White/Blue are still available.

Of course selling Tan, and Light/Dark grey 32x32 plates would be nice.

For what it's worth, you can still get light/dark bluish grey, tan, white, and a couple of other color 32x32 baseplates from Bricks & Pieces.  They are all in stock at the time I'm posting this.

[Powered by Bricks]

So that is the only information for city 2021 sets? 

[TeriXeri]

10 hours ago, Vindicare said:

I like the versatility of building one’s own streets & I won’t count it out just yet(despite my initial hate of the idea). I don’t even really mind the stickers for crosswalks. I can’t see them switching the Modulars to plates though. That would ruin one of the biggest features of the line, connection to make a street. Not after 13 years of sets being that way.  

True, they likely thought it out, with Diagon Alley being a street of "half modulars" as well, being on baseplates, and regular modulars still fill most of the area of the baseplates with the sidewalks etc.

Haunted House is a standalone building, with hinges, so normal plates make sense there as it's an irregular size.

Also Diagon Alley can be repositioned to form 2  32x32 closed buildings to fit in a Modular street.

Edited September 13, 2020 by TeriXeri

[The Island Chronicles]

I'm not going to even beat around the bush though. The idea of killing off road baseplates for City is even worse than named characters. This is also going to mess with their finances as road baseplates have been an amazing seller since the days of classic town. 

[TeriXeri]

16 minutes ago, Brandon Pea said:

I'm not going to even beat around the bush though. The idea of killing off road baseplates for City is even worse than named characters. This is also going to mess with their finances as road baseplates have been an amazing seller since the days of classic town. 

I think LEGO wanted change for a long time, they just haven't found out the right way. 

2019 repack of road plates might not have sold enough, otherwise it seems very quick to retire already.

Xtra cardboard playmats likely weren't succesful enough so they already retired (in Europe), and we got Road Tape instead.

I bought my cardboard playmats for 50% off and that was from LEGO.com itself.

Now LEGO is brute-forcing it by retiring road plates entirely, so we'll see how it'll end up, road plates probably would come back if this new plan doesn't work out.

I have mixed feelings about it, for existing cities and kids, it's a hit on the market for sure, but I'm open for innovation, and personally would prefer plate/tiled roads if they become affordable as they take much less width for a shelf.

Road Tape isn't a product for me as I tend to move my buildings around, as I have quite a few of 3-in-1 / Friends scale sets from the last 4 years.

Now, I do have a lot of experience with road plates as a kid, and I for sure loved them (still have them with the old LEGO collection), but right now they just don't really fit on something like a shelf for me, I don't have a permanent room/table layout.

And something as simple as putting 2-3 road plates in a row and form a landing runway for aircraft was super simple to set up, so lack of road plates certainly would be a miss for kids that want a quick play area.

I'm not saying I love this change, but I'm not hating it either until I see the actual product lines. Having more expansion with Trees/Traffic signs etc sounds promising, Xtra so far been very nice on their polybags imo.

Edited September 13, 2020 by TeriXeri

[Fenghuang0296]

Wait. “Road Tape”? What in the world is . . {googles} How did I not know about this before? I’ve never heard of this, never seen it, never seen it promoted on Shop@Home or mentioned on legoleaks by anyone . . wow. That is terrible. Both the lack of promotion and just the entire concept. ‘Road tape’. 
Back to the new road system. I don’t think LEGO cares about alignment with Modular Buildings; remember the cardboard play mats? Those were exactly one plate thick, meaning that they worked easily with stuff that was built on plates and not at all with baseplates and Modulars. 
Also, another thing that I haven’t seen mentioned; baseplates are exactly half a plate thick. I’ve tested it with Technic for MOCs in the past. 
 

[Robert8]

Winter set list leaked

Nothing really stands out to me :/

[The Island Chronicles]

1 hour ago, Robert8 said:

Winter set list leaked

Nothing really stands out to me :/

Link?

[Robert8]

Just now, Brandon Pea said:

Link?

 

[The Island Chronicles]

Hmm.....you're right. Nothing really interesting. 

Crooks Hideout Raid, Road Work Truck, Beach Rescue ATV, Tractor and Race Buggy Transport. 

As for sports cars and fire helicopters, we get enough of those. The only one that really sparks my interest is prolly the airshow jet transport. 

[DodgeDude5498]

10 minutes ago, Robert8 said:

 

Can’t wait for 60278, a crooks hideout has been needed for a while now! 60284 might be good but I have a hunch it’ll be a 4+ set, and 60287 could be another hint at a return of the Farm line like the Harvester Transport was? Although somehow I doubt we’ll ever see a whole Farm line (as awesome as that would be), I’m guessing it will just be a tractor here and there. I’m not gonna hope too much as far as the fire heli, beach rescue ATV, and sports car go if they’re anything like previous sets, but we’ll see. I’d like for one of the transports to have an American style tractor trailer.
 

I’m also hoping for a good house set in the $40-$60 range, something similar to this one: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=31012-1#T=S&O={"iconly":0} Most City’s current buildings are trash IMO, nowadays Creator 3 in 1 is the only place to get decent smallish buildings.

@Robert8 keep us posted on the leaks, I have no social media so I’m kinda outta the loop.

[Vindicare]

12 hours ago, TeriXeri said:

I have mixed feelings about it, for existing cities and kids, it's a hit on the market for sure, but I'm open for innovation, and personally would prefer plate/tiled roads if they become affordable as they take much less width for a shelf.

I do as well. I like them overall, but the plates is what bothers me. As it is, I would need 144 16x16 plates to replace all the base plates in my city, be that regular & street(68 street). That’s a lot of money that would be “wasted” on something that didn’t need to be changed. 

I looked at the last few years of the Creator 3-in-1 sets. The last two years have a line of dark grey 1x tiles, just like the edges of these new road plates. So I imagine they had those in mind when they created these. And the smaller street width makes sense with the smaller buildings. 

[DodgeDude5498]

Ditching road baseplates (no pun intended) is definitely a stupidly thoughtless decision. Here’s to hoping the new ones don’t sell and they go back to the old ones. 6 wide road is just dumb, city literally just started making all they’re vehicles SEVEN WIDE (counting fenders)!!! I’m about to go eat up a bunch of them before second hand prices sky rocket. I don’t need them for my layout but sooner or later I will.

[ChrisW]

Apart from the Tractor (hopefully a welcome return to Farm), the rest sounds standard and pretty dull.

EDIT: With that updated list, a Skate Park sounds good too. Maybe a new kick scooter mould?

Edited September 14, 2020 by ChrisW