Lego City 2021 Rumours, information and discussion

[The Jersey Brick Guy]

I may cherry-pick one or two of the builds, but for the most part, all the sets with these new roads are overpriced and take away from the main build themselves. These will all be easy passes for me. 

8 hours ago, Inspecter said:

I don't get this. With a little bit of effort you can make them compatible with old road plates. Not to mention they can connect to old roadplates just fine, well atleast the first iteration of them:

Try that with the new roadplates. It doesn’t work. 

[LCP]

2 hours ago, fo4saken said:

What? Did they change it indeed? Found on IG.

I'm very sorry that 60278 products and 60306 products did not appear.

[fo4saken]

This is absolutely ridiculous... There is no 60305 car transporter and 60306 shopping street. But there is no 60277 police boat as well, damn wtf? 

19:13 City sets starts

[LCP]

16 minutes ago, fo4saken said:

This is absolutely ridiculous... There is no 60305 car transporter and 60306 shopping street. But there is no 60277 police boat as well, damn wtf? 

19:13 City sets starts

My friend told me that sometimes some products don't appear in the catalog.
And sometimes products are sold on the market before they are introduced in the catalog.

1 hour ago, The Jersey Brick Guy said:

I may cherry-pick one or two of the builds, but for the most part, all the sets with these new roads are overpriced and take away from the main build themselves. These will all be easy passes for me. 

Try that with the new roadplates. It doesn’t work. 

As expected, the new roadblocks don't seem to match the existing ones.

[Inspecter]

2 hours ago, The Jersey Brick Guy said:

Try that with the new roadplates. It doesn’t work. 

Well with a little effort I'm sure it can work. I think you can just put these new roadplates on a baseplate and then connect the studded areas and it would work, and of course you can add additional tiles to the sides to match the width of the road baseplate but of course there's the issue of the baseplate color not matching the old road plate but there's ways to fix it.

[LCP]

2 hours ago, The Jersey Brick Guy said:

I may cherry-pick one or two of the builds, but for the most part, all the sets with these new roads are overpriced and take away from the main build themselves. These will all be easy passes for me. 

Try that with the new roadplates. It doesn’t work. 

And it may seem strange now, but I think this roadblock will one day become a standard practice.

[fo4saken]

@LCP ufff... 60305 and 60306 are on lego site already (they appeared today on our polish lego site) as new sets with 1st of Jan availability.

[LCP]

5 minutes ago, fo4saken said:

@LCP ufff... 60305 and 60306 are on lego site already (they appeared today on our polish lego site) as new sets with 1st of Jan availability.

60305 and 60306 have just been registered on the Korean homepage as well as the Polish homepage.

Edited December 18, 2020 by LCP

[fo4saken]

I only hope they will be available for distributors in the same time as rest of the new city 2021 sets instead of being some kind of exclusivity for lego shop for let's say 1 or 2 month as I will definitely buy shopping street (especially my son likes that light repair truck) 

Edited December 18, 2020 by fo4saken

[toopizza13]

i find it weird that people dont like the new roads because they are REPLACING the old ones. LEGO has never announced or said that the old ones are retiring.

[Powered by Bricks]

6 minutes ago, toopizza13 said:

i find it weird that people dont like the new roads because they are REPLACING the old ones. LEGO has never announced or said that the old ones are retiring.

It's just a new thing for city, maybe LEGO will sell the old road plates on another theme 

[The Island Chronicles]

10 minutes ago, toopizza13 said:

i find it weird that people dont like the new roads because they are REPLACING the old ones. LEGO has never announced or said that the old ones are retiring.

All I saw was that it was a new project they were testing. I didn't see anything about road baseplates being discontinued. As said above, they may sell road baseplates under another Lego theme. Like classic. 

[brimbolet]

60236 road pack is already listed as retired product:

https://www.lego.com/en-at/product/straight-and-t-junction-60236

Thanks to all for providing the links to the road plates reviews. Unfortunately they confirmed all my doubts about the new developed system; useful for AFOLs but in my eyes absolutely not for small kids and their parents.

Example: a bike lane (like from the shopping street) is not included in the 60304 expansion set; tiles in that particular color seem to be quite rare and I doubt 5+ kids will be able to make PaB orders online. By the way, how many parents do you think buy special parts for (small) kids? 

[jonwil]

Anyone know if the bike lane bike symbol is printed or sticker?

 

[Inspecter]

1 hour ago, jonwil said:

Anyone know if the bike lane bike symbol is printed or sticker?

 

It's printed.

[Aanchir]

35 minutes ago, brimbolet said:

60236 road pack is already listed as retired product:

https://www.lego.com/en-at/product/straight-and-t-junction-60236

Thanks to all for providing the links to the road plates reviews. Unfortunately they confirmed all my doubts about the new developed system; useful for AFOLs but in my eyes absolutely not for small kids and their parents. 

Example: a bike lane (like from the shopping street) is not included in the 60304 expansion set; tiles in that particular color seem to be quite rare and I doubt 5+ kids will be able to make PaB orders online. By the way, how many parents do you think buy special parts for (small) kids? 

Okay, but counterpoint: in the new road system, marked bike lanes are optional, while in the old road system, they didn't exist whatsoever. And set-specific features that can be re-arranged or even entirely removed from a layout certainly seem like a considerable step up from the set-specific patterns that often appeared on baseplates back when they actually showed up more often in larger sets rather than just by themselves.

Having grown up with sets of the 90s, I can attest that even these Dark Azur tiled bike lanes are a lot easier to expand on using loose parts (or even for LEGO to put bike lanes like this one in future set) than to expand on stuff like Paradisa's Light Green baseplates with cobblestone driveways or Light Yellow beaches, Wild West's Brick Yellow baseplate with wagon wheel tracks, or the various river baseplates in Town, Islanders, Forestmen, Wild West, and Adventurers sets which almost never matched one another.

And honestly, it would not be hard at all for LEGO to replace the "Xtra" Bicycles polybag (which has already been retired in some countries) with a similar product that includes parts like the new bike lane tiles in addition to bikes, bike racks, helmets, a basket, etc. After all, they've already got a new Food polybag on the way to replace the previous one which launched alongside the Bicycles polybag. The fact that they went so far as to print the tile with the bike lane icon (in a set where all the other set-specific graphics are represented by a sticker sheet) makes it hard to imagine it NOT showing up again in other sets.

[jonwil]

At the very least it should be possible for people to buy more of the bike lane parts from Bricks & Pieces since I can't imagine them not showing up for sale...

 

[brimbolet]

8 hours ago, Aanchir said:

Okay, but counterpoint: in the new road system, marked bike lanes are optional, while in the old road system, they didn't exist whatsoever. And set-specific features that can be re-arranged or even entirely removed from a layout certainly seem like a considerable step up from the set-specific patterns that often appeared on baseplates back when they actually showed up more often in larger sets rather than just by themselves.

Having grown up with sets of the 90s, I can attest that even these Dark Azur tiled bike lanes are a lot easier to expand on using loose parts (or even for LEGO to put bike lanes like this one in future set) than to expand on stuff like Paradisa's Light Green baseplates with cobblestone driveways or Light Yellow beaches, Wild West's Brick Yellow baseplate with wagon wheel tracks, or the various river baseplates in Town, Islanders, Forestmen, Wild West, and Adventurers sets which almost never matched one another.

And honestly, it would not be hard at all for LEGO to replace the "Xtra" Bicycles polybag (which has already been retired in some countries) with a similar product that includes parts like the new bike lane tiles in addition to bikes, bike racks, helmets, a basket, etc. After all, they've already got a new Food polybag on the way to replace the previous one which launched alongside the Bicycles polybag. The fact that they went so far as to print the tile with the bike lane icon (in a set where all the other set-specific graphics are represented by a sticker sheet) makes it hard to imagine it NOT showing up again in other sets.

Well the old baseplates (Islanders, Wild West, Paradisa) were never intended to be expandable in the first place, but I think you miss my point.

If Lego decided to introduce a new (flexible) system, then parts needed for its expansion also have to be easy accessible (=regular retailer). Xtra bags with bike lanes, trees, lamps etc. are fine, but are Lego store only (at least for now) and no parent will drive even 20km for a polybag just to please the offspring; regular parents even don't know that there are PaB walls in store or that the online store has more cool sets to offer like modulars. The road plates are quite expensive, so Lego has to reach out to a wider group of customers and that can't happen through store exclusives.

[fo4saken]

 

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10 minutes ago, fo4saken said:

 

Already saw them,but here some other ones

 

 

[Maple]

On 12/18/2020 at 7:45 AM, The Jersey Brick Guy said:

 all the sets with these new roads are overpriced

That's such a silly argument I keep hearing. The people at Brickset want road baseplates and think that would be somehow cheaper. It wouldn't. The 2021 sets are better priced with the road plates than say, oh the last City set of 2020, the Main Square. $200, even worst buildings, no road plates. 2020 Police Station, 750 pieces, no roads, $100. Towne Centre $100 for a few more pieces AND has roads. Service station 350, $50, no road plates. Bank / Monster Truck set $60 for 360 pieces, no road plates. Yet this year for $20 more you get the Shopping Street for $80, 530 pieces (170 more pieces) including road plates AND more buildings. The Modern House is 388 pieces with road plates and is $10 cheaper than the bank / monster truck.

We are getting more buildings in January in the City theme than I think we ever have gotten before.

Edited December 19, 2020 by Maple

[The Island Chronicles]

40 minutes ago, Maple said:

We are getting more buildings in January in the City theme than I think we ever have gotten before.

Yes we are. 

Btw, I disagree about main square. I love the little town hall piece that comes with main square. The tram too. That stage is good for my radio station/recording studio MOC. I wouldn't buy the diner as the citizens of my town prefer food trucks. But put two of those together and you'll have a nice enclosed diner MOC. The limo isn't that bad either along with Carl's cart. I think the police chase and cat saving chopper was unnecessary. But you know how City idolizes the police force and fire department. My only issue would BE the price. Otherwise, it's a nice booster set. 

Edited December 19, 2020 by Brandon Pea

[Maple]

22 hours ago, brimbolet said:

60236 road pack is already listed as retired product:

https://www.lego.com/en-at/product/straight-and-t-junction-60236

That doesn't mean they are getting rid of them. They might just change the set number or maybe do them as single plates.

[Salix]

2 hours ago, Maple said:

That doesn't mean they are getting rid of them. They might just change the set number or maybe do them as single plates.

I really hope they're gonna do single plates instead of those useless combinations. But I fear they're retiring them, I really hope they won't, but it does look like it.

Edited December 19, 2020 by Salix

[Aanchir]

14 hours ago, brimbolet said:

Well the old baseplates (Islanders, Wild West, Paradisa) were never intended to be expandable in the first place, but I think you miss my point.

If Lego decided to introduce a new (flexible) system, then parts needed for its expansion also have to be easy accessible (=regular retailer). Xtra bags with bike lanes, trees, lamps etc. are fine, but are Lego store only (at least for now) and no parent will drive even 20km for a polybag just to please the offspring; regular parents even don't know that there are PaB walls in store or that the online store has more cool sets to offer like modulars. The road plates are quite expensive, so Lego has to reach out to a wider group of customers and that can't happen through store exclusives. 

Plenty of parents DO shop online, though — the events of this year have certainly made that obvious! And there are also of other possibilties for "expansion sets" besides Xtra polybags which WOULDN'T need to be LEGO Brand Retail exclusive.

All in all, it just seems weird to me to act as though the new road system will not be useful to kids before they've even launched, just because one of the options it offers isn't included in the initial "expansion set".

I mean, we've gone years with much more essential road features like traffic lights or road signs only available either in LEGO-exclusive accessory packs or as "add-ons" in specific Police, Town, or Great Vehicles sets. But I've never seen anybody here complain that it inconveniences kids not to include those with road baseplates (which the new system actually does).

54 minutes ago, Salix said:

I really hope they're gonna do single plates instead of those useless combinations. But I fear they're retiring them, I really hope they won't, but it does look like it.

Yeah, from my understanding, the main reason they've only released roads as two-packs for so long is that they don't sell well enough in general to justify having four separate road baseplate sets/SKUs available at any given time. And I can't imagine that AFOL panic-buying would be enough to create greater sustained demand for road baseplates than there was before this new road system was available.

Edited December 20, 2020 by Aanchir