FABUpunk! Mafia II–Day Three, Bad Morning, Y'all

Corrina Cow · August 21, 2020

10 minutes ago, Hinckley said:

Or some drugs. Why not both?

Parvani Poodle · August 21, 2020

Yeah I'm back.

Very concisely, I'm not too sure on voting Hyacinth. I'm sorry but I can relate to being late with votes-actions whatever. Not sure that her lackadaisical reaction to it was appropriate, but I'm not seeing a Scum acting quite like she did.

As for Francezka, I'm not reading her very well. She's on my suspect list, but what I find more suspicious is how Emeric jumped on her with an easy justification -- a case has been made by Benicia earlier, she has already penality votes, let's get rid of her. :sceptic:

On 8/20/2020 at 3:22 PM, Emeric Elephant said:

After watching all of this happen so far today, I'm going to

Vote: Francezka Fox

Benicio makes an absolute great case against her in his earlier post, and something just seems off about her. She also has 3 penalty votes against her, so we could easily vote her off the ship.

Somehow I find this scummier that the actual case against Francezka. Not to mention Emeric's poke vote on Bixby back on day One, coincidence maybe, maybe not.

I double-checked, the day isn't supposed to be over yet, but sorry for posting if my math is wrong. :blush:

**Hinckley** · August 21, 2020

Mod note: The host sucks at checking time stamps. There are actually 2 hours remaining in Day Three. :hmpf: Apologies.

Hyacinth Hippo · August 21, 2020

There's still time for people to change their votes. Like I said, the silence from some of the most talkative big post counters is deafening.

Emeric Elephant · August 21, 2020

13 minutes ago, Parvani Poodle said:

Yeah I'm back.

Very concisely, I'm not too sure on voting Hyacinth. I'm sorry but I can relate to being late with votes-actions whatever. Not sure that her lackadaisical reaction to it was appropriate, but I'm not seeing a Scum acting quite like she did.

As for Francezka, I'm not reading her very well. She's on my suspect list, but what I find more suspicious is how Emeric jumped on her with an easy justification -- a case has been made by Benicia earlier, she has already penality votes, let's get rid of her.

Somehow I find this scummier that the actual case against Francezka. Not to mention Emeric's poke vote on Bixby back on day One, coincidence maybe, maybe not.

I double-checked, the day isn't supposed to be over yet, but sorry for posting if my math is wrong.

I hid behind Francezka last night, and it looks like nothing bad happened to her, and while Benecio made the best argument, and I was the first vote, so not really sure how I jumped on it. I also was the first vote with the poke vote on Bixby, who turned out to be scum. Not exactly related but I think my instincts are working.

I didn't worry about Francezka getting killed last night, I didn't think she was going to be targeted by the scum or a vig or anything. Maybe she is scum and that's why she's still alive.

Rutherford Raccoon · August 21, 2020

32 minutes ago, Parvani Poodle said:

As for Francezka, I'm not reading her very well. She's on my suspect list, but what I find more suspicious is how Emeric jumped on her with an easy justification -- a case has been made by Benicia earlier, she has already penality votes, let's get rid of her.

Somehow I find this scummier that the actual case against Francezka. Not to mention Emeric's poke vote on Bixby back on day One, coincidence maybe, maybe not.

Emerick has made a habit of that. :sceptic:

23 minutes ago, Hyacinth Hippo said:

There's still time for people to change their votes. Like I said, the silence from some of the most talkative big post counters is deafening.

I second this.

Bartosz Bulldog · August 21, 2020

Ok this is going to come out of Left Field, But I kinda agree with what's being said since last time I was ... gazing into my bucket. I'll come back to make a case for this, and had considered doing so last night before I... well... gazed too deeply into my bucket... and I want to get this in before the end:

Unvote: Hyacinth Hippo

Vote: Francezka Fox

borf

First and foremost, I believe either the Fox or the Hippo could be the Trickster, but I think the Fox is more likely to be scum, which is why I'm voting for her. I have been suspicious of her actions since the beginning and would be fine seeing either hang today. Why I'm choosing to cast my vote for the Fox instead? a few reasons.

One: They've both claimed and the Lullaby is the less useful role. Honestly I might propose we TEST Hyacinth and have her track someone like the Raccoon who we assume is Town and trustworthy. The Hippo will report what she tracked beforehand and the Raccoon or whomever can verify that she's at least telling the truth about having and using her action.

Two: I feel we stand to learn more from Voting for Francezka. wouldn't have wanted to support her lynch today unless it was a natural majority, and we still may not reach such a thing, but it stands to reason that there's more to analyze wrt voting and overall chatter if we find out how the Fox flips.

Three: I am reeeeeally suspicious about whether or not Hyacinth can actually use roles she hasn't absorbed, because I think she's the trickster, but with her now semi-confirmable action, I would be willing to change my beliefs based on evidence of her ability to use the tracking action. Either way, if she is the Trickster we're still better off voting for someone who I think is more likely to be scum.

Bartosz Bulldog · August 21, 2020

1 hour ago, Parvani Poodle said:

Somehow I find this scummier that the actual case against Francezka. Not to mention Emeric's poke vote on Bixby back on day One, coincidence maybe, maybe not.

I double-checked, the day isn't supposed to be over yet, but sorry for posting if my math is wrong.

I'm ngl Emeric's vote for Francezka has actually held me back from voting for her. I had previously suspected them both of being on the same scum-team. I haven't had the chance to deeply analyze things since day 2, but I'm curious now to see how this lynch turns out because I honestly wouldn't be shocked if his vote was a buss.

Holbrook Horse · August 21, 2020

1 hour ago, Marlowe Monkey said:

You've made a better case for yourself than the Fox has. You're reply genuinely feels more townie. I don't know whether I'm about to make the right decision but out of Hyacinth's and Francessa's responses to both being the subject of today's lynch Hyacinth comes off as the more townie whilst Francesca comes off as the more scummy.

I might look like a fool tomorrow. I don't know. We'll see.

"oops the bus got too fast". I pointed this out yesterday, that you and Leatrix voted for Hyacinth on day one for very fluffy reasons and it looked like ass-covering. How convenient the fox has penalty votes and you can pile right on!

1 hour ago, Parvani Poodle said:

a case has been made by Benicia earlier, she has already penality votes, let's get rid of her.

yup, that makes two doesn't it?

22 minutes ago, Emeric Elephant said:

I hid behind Francezka last night, and it looks like nothing bad happened to her

How would you know that? Half the discussion yesterday and today has been about the bomb, which wouldn't go off until tonight if at all :look:

On 8/20/2020 at 4:41 PM, Marlowe Monkey said:

Gilford Goat for making the most posts out of all of us yet seemingly also saying the least.

Both you and Hyacinth (plus Rutherford) have made this observation and indeed it stands out. I don't have much standing to complain though, because I've been a victim of "reality ensues" lately - a flooded drain today. I've thought of Franczeska/Hyacinth/Leatrix/Marlowe as a pool of suspects because of the bus on day 1, because of Franczeska's soft defense of Hyacinth today, and because of how both Franczeska and Hyacinth fucked up with the baby dwagon actions.

But now Franczeska is the apparent lynchee and Marlowe has voted for her instead of for Hyacinth, I must be wrong somewhere. If Marlowe is scum then Franczeska is probably town, in which case her defense of Hyacinth doesn't count for anything... Bartosz is right that lynching Franzeska will probably provide more answers since she's at the nexus of Hyacinth/Leatrix/Marlowe and seems also to be wrapped up with Emeric.

Spoiler

1 hour ago, Hinckley said:

December's Children!

Bartosz Bulldog · August 21, 2020

That's probably all the time I have today to contribute sadly but I'll be gazing into my bucket in hopes of catching scum settling to the bottom all through the night.

Holbrook Horse · August 21, 2020

Just now, Holbrook Horse said:

If Marlowe is scum then Franczeska is probably town, in which case her defense of Hyacinth doesn't count for anything...

I do want to see if Marlowe comes back before the end of the day, very curious

Corrina Cow · August 21, 2020

13 minutes ago, Bartosz Bulldog said:

First and foremost, I believe either the Fox or the Hippo could be the Trickster, but I think the Fox is more likely to be scum, which is why I'm voting for her.

And that is exactly why my vote will stay on Hyacinth, I think she's the most likely of the two to be the trickster and the only way to deal with the trickster is via lynch, anything at night could be absorbed. Franczeska, as likely scum, could be dealt with by a vig or some such similar role at night. It's still a bit of a shot in the dark either way, but this feels more right than reversing those roles. Hyacinth hasn't been that scummy, she looks like she's trying to deal with the complications of being the trickster, and Franczeska looks like someone trying to hide being scummy. Just my opinion.

55 minutes ago, Emeric Elephant said:

I hid behind Francezka last night, and it looks like nothing bad happened to her

Like the bomb that doesn't go off until tonight? Or, hopefully, not at all. Confusing.

Bartosz Bulldog · August 21, 2020

Just now, Corrina Cow said:

And that is exactly why my vote will stay on Hyacinth, I think she's the most likely of the two to be the trickster and the only way to deal with the trickster is via lynch, anything at night could be absorbed. Franczeska, as likely scum, could be dealt with by a vig or some such similar role at night. It's still a bit of a shot in the dark either way, but this feels more right than reversing those roles. Hyacinth hasn't been that scummy, she looks like she's trying to deal with the complications of being the trickster, and Franczeska looks like someone trying to hide being scummy. Just my opinion.

I mean... if a vig fails to kill her in the night that'd be pretty damning, so I'm willing to play my cards the way I've cast them, as you'd say... wait no you don't read cards you read stars. Goodness I get so confused sometimes when I'm not gazing intently into a bucket of gross water.

Corrina Cow · August 21, 2020

1 minute ago, Bartosz Bulldog said:

I mean... if a vig fails to kill her in the night that'd be pretty damning, so I'm willing to play my cards the way I've cast them, as you'd say... wait no you don't read cards you read stars. Goodness I get so confused sometimes when I'm not gazing intently into a bucket of gross water.

We do have one in the mix tonight, but with a scum blocker and other random things, including any potentially unaccounted for absorbed roles, it isn't a risk I like taking. I can certainly see both sides of it, though.

Cards are for gamblers, but the stars are for everyone! Your bucket is exclusively yours. :laugh:

Bartosz Bulldog · August 21, 2020

Correct me if I'm wrong here but no one has actually targetted the Hippo yet so she shouldn't have absorbed anything if she's the trickster.

That's probably pissing her off and if I'm right I'm gunna laugh my tail off Borf!

4 minutes ago, Corrina Cow said:

Cards are for gamblers, but the stars are for everyone! Your bucket is exclusively yours.

My bucket is the people's bucket! It contains multitudes! but... uh yeah It's pretty hard for anyone but me to read... BUT I SHALL GLADLY read ANYONE's Fortunes with it! :wub: Borf!

**Hinckley** · August 21, 2020

Vote tally

Franczeska Fox: 8 (penalty, penalty, penalty, Emeric Elephant, Hyacinth Hippo, Rutherford Raccoon, Marlowe Monkey, Bartosz Bulldog)
Parvani Poodle: 3 (penalty, penalty, penalty)
Hyacinth Hippo: 7 (Benicia Bear, Holbrook Horse, Leatrix Lamb, Corrina Cow, Franczeska Fox, Gilford Goat, Shainen Sheepdog)
Emeric Elephant: 1 (Parvani Poodle)

Non-voters: 0

With 13 players remaining, it takes 7 votes to reach a lynch. Currently, Franczeska Fox will be lynched. There are 38 minutes remaining in Day Three.

34 minutes ago, Bartosz Bulldog said:

Unvote: Hyacinth Hippo

Vote: Francezka Fox

Corrina Cow · August 21, 2020

1 minute ago, Bartosz Bulldog said:

Correct me if I'm wrong here but no one has actually targetted the Hippo yet so she shouldn't have absorbed anything if she's the trickster.

Anyone dead could have, or someone assuming the role of someone dead, if anyone has even managed that. In this mess, it's hard to tell.

2 minutes ago, Bartosz Bulldog said:

That's probably pissing her off and if I'm right I'm gunna laugh my tail off Borf!

That is a hilarious thought. :rofl:

3 minutes ago, Bartosz Bulldog said:

My bucket is the people's bucket! It contains multitudes! but... uh yeah It's pretty hard for anyone but me to read... BUT I SHALL GLADLY read ANYONE's Fortunes with it! Borf!

Maybe you could swing around to my cabin some night and give me a lesson? I'm always interested in learning new things. Bring the pants. :devil:

Bartosz Bulldog · August 21, 2020

The way the trickster role seems designed is that it starts off having MANDATORY handout roles and increasingly fewer. It really would not surprise me if this was designed so that in the beginning the Trickster would have to hide behind one of several non-mandatory roles OR THOSE OF THE DEAD, and as time went on they could claim more and more of the options including those of the dead but also those they simply didn't hand out. As an absorber they could slowly start acruing roles that they can claim which is why I'm very firm now in my belief that she can't assign herself a real role.

Just now, Corrina Cow said:

Anyone dead could have, or someone assuming the role of someone dead, if anyone has even managed that. In this mess, it's hard to tell.

That is a hilarious thought.

Maybe you could swing around to my cabin some night and give me a lesson? I'm always interested in learning new things. Bring the pants.

You don't have to tell me twice! Borf borf! :devil:

Hmm, but that would be complicated by the hippo's claim of normalizer on Day 1. Did we determine what CAladron's role would have been? I don't think we did, so that would probably indicate she took a page from his book if the Hippo's the Trickster.

Anyways I really have to do other things now. Chao! Borf!

Final thought: I'd recommend we have the Hippo give her result BEFORE everyone else tomorrow so that we can ensure she's not BSing us. Borf.

The Forest God probably hates me for making him retake all his photos hehehehehe sowwy

**Hinckley** · August 21, 2020

Final Vote tally

Franczeska Fox: 8 (penalty, penalty, penalty, Emeric Elephant, Hyacinth Hippo, Rutherford Raccoon, Marlowe Monkey, Bartosz Bulldog)
Parvani Poodle: 3 (penalty, penalty, penalty)
Hyacinth Hippo: 7 (Benicia Bear, Holbrook Horse, Leatrix Lamb, Corrina Cow, Franczeska Fox, Gilford Goat, Shainen Sheepdog)
Emeric Elephant: 1 (Parvani Poodle)

Non-voters: 0

With 13 players remaining, it takes 7 votes to reach a lynch. Day Three has ended with Franczeska Fox being lynched. Night Three begins now. You have precisely 24 hours to get your Night Actions in. There is a strict 24 hour deadline. Late Night Actions will not be accepted.