FABUpunk! Mafia II–Day Three, Bad Morning, Y'all

[Franczeska Fox]

*hic* Wowwzzaa this was a fuckiiing spicyyy way to start the *hic* day. I seee I was blockkked which woulddd explainn why myyyy attempt to have the Goaat read a *hic* bedtiiime stowy failed. *hic* 3 pages in 5 hours, if I wasntt stonne colllldd soberrr I'd say there were morrre NPCs hereee than furries! Anyyway, all I hadd was a 25% voyeur chancee and I was *hic* blocked soooo that's thattt.

@Emeric Elephant I also got no indication thatt *hic* anyything elsee happppened lassst niight, but beeing told where the bommmb was placeddd seems OP

 

[Leatrix Lamb]

Oh my, you all got up eeaaaaarly today. Baaaaaaaaaad morning for the bunny indeed, but a very good morniiiiiiiing for us. Nice wooooooork Rutherford.

I (successfully) gave Rutherford a piece of fruit last night because I felt like he deserved it after his comaaaaaaaa and all the successful yet unsuccessful role stopping he did yesterdaaaaaaaay.

6 hours ago, Shainen Sheepdog said:

I was the compulsive hooker and successfully hooked Parvani last night.

 

6 hours ago, Parvani Poodle said:

For my part, I was Deflector and I deflected actions from Benicia to Emeric. Not sure if anything came out of it though.

Were you succeeeeeessful though?

5 hours ago, Hyacinth Hippo said:

Hello everyone.

I wasn't told I got to baaaaaaaathe the baby dragons last night as you promised yesterdaaaaaaaay. Did you taaaarget me and were you succeeeeeessful?

Mobley claimed to have baby dragon slumber paaaaaaarty and that it "does nothing to any other night activities", and while we won't ever get to know his taaaaaaarget, no one reported atteeeeending a slumber party (imo, Mobley would have been able to give someone a ticket to a slumber paaaaarty before he got killed).

Corrina claimed to have baby dragon lullaaaaaaby and that it was a 25% chance at protector, Bernicia said she saaaaaang a lullaby to baby draaaaagons.

Hyacinth claimed to have baby dragon baaaaaaath, said it wasn't "particularly useful" and said she would target me, but I haven't been told.

Franczeska claimed to haaaaaave baby dragon bedtime story, a 25% chance at voyeur, but was appaaaaaarently blocked.

That's one 25% "useful" and one "not particularly useful" claim per night on the baby draaaaaaaagon roles and more interestingly only one report of the recipient actually getting told of an eeeeeeeeffect.

3 hours ago, Bartosz Bulldog said:

Assuming the Trickster can't assign themself a role: 
The Trickster hasn't been blocked once yet. 
The Trickster can't claim whatever role the Bunny had last night because she was scum and she definitely would have told her friends, so the trickster would know that they know, and it doesn't benefit the trickster to let the scum know.
The trickster can't therefor claim any of the "mandatory to give" roles tonight, and furthermore couldn't be the virgin/hooker. This winnows our potential Tricksters into the following list:

Given that 13 roles haaaaaaaaad to be handed out on night one and that the baby dragon haters know each other's rooooooles, I doubt the trickster can't assign themselves a role as weeeeeeeeell or they would run out of places to hide rather quickly, as your anaaaaaalysis demonstraaaaaaaates. Also, don't forget that the trickster absorbs roles that target theeeeeeem. Given the limited length of the night (and our slightly different sleeeeeeeep schedules), it seems unlikely that they get to use those absorbed roles the same niiiiiiiight. If it's really diabowical this time 'round, maaaaaaaaybe they get to assign themselves an ability (and an alibi) aaaaaaaaand use one of the absorbed abilities every night. The trickster likely has to get us aaaaaaaall killed, so I don't necessarily think it's faaaaaaar fetched to at least consider this possiiiiiiiibility.

What maaaaaaakes you think the trickster was not bloooooocked yet? Handing out the roles is a day aaaaaaaaability, so that would not be blocked by niiiiiight abilities.

[Rutherford Raccoon]

25 minutes ago, Leatrix Lamb said:

Oh my, you all got up eeaaaaarly today. Baaaaaaaaaad morning for the bunny indeed, but a very good morniiiiiiiing for us. Nice wooooooork Rutherford.

I (successfully) gave Rutherford a piece of fruit last night because I felt like he deserved it after his comaaaaaaaa and all the successful yet unsuccessful role stopping he did yesterdaaaaaaaay.

Given that 13 roles haaaaaaaaad to be handed out on night one and that the baby dragon haters know each other's rooooooles, I doubt the trickster can't assign themselves a role as weeeeeeeeell or they would run out of places to hide rather quickly, as your anaaaaaalysis demonstraaaaaaaates. Also, don't forget that the trickster absorbs roles that target theeeeeeem. Given the limited length of the night (and our slightly different sleeeeeeeep schedules), it seems unlikely that they get to use those absorbed roles the same niiiiiiiight. If it's really diabowical this time 'round, maaaaaaaaybe they get to assign themselves an ability (and an alibi) aaaaaaaaand use one of the absorbed abilities every night. The trickster likely has to get us aaaaaaaall killed, so I don't necessarily think it's faaaaaaar fetched to at least consider this possiiiiiiiibility.

What maaaaaaakes you think the trickster was not bloooooocked yet? Handing out the roles is a day aaaaaaaaability, so that would not be blocked by niiiiiight abilities.

Thank you!

So it was you who gave me the piece of fruit! I haven't told anybody about that- I was trying to figure if could be a bomb- so it looks like lamb is confirmed fruit vendor. Or one heck of a skunk game.

That's a good point on the day ability. Also, I believe you mean our slightly different sheep schedules. :wink:

[Marlowe Monkey]

Ayyyyyy good work Rutherford! I’m soooory for suspecting you yesterday. I take back all of my comments. 

I was the Ghoul. Meaning I choose a player and If I am targeted for a kill that night then the player at chose would be killed instead. I chose Hippo and I was successful.

[Bartosz Bulldog]

It is possible I was operating under faulty reasoning last night. I'll have to re-evaluate that now that I'm in a more normative mindset. Hopefully I'll find the time between mopping decks today. One thing I'll say is that that entire analysis depended on a number of assumptions which I freely admit may have been wrong. As I considered yesterday, it'd be unreasonable for exactly the reason I demonstrated if the Trickster can't give themselves something. Also, I assumed that blocking them would prevent them from choosing their list, which, in hindsight is a bit of a reach, but it was also not as essential to my reasoning than the other elements. 

Before I leave for mopping, I feel it's a good idea for me to give this another update: 

"Scum get a Godfather
Scum get a Blocker (Presumably blocked Gilford Goat)
Scum Kill is an Anarchist (they will hand a bomb to one player and the bomb will explode on Night 3)

1. Compulsive Investigator * Gilford Goat: Failed to investigate the Fox.
2. Compulsive Vigilante * Rutherford Raccoon: Successfully killed the Bunny.
3. Deflector * Parvini Poodle: Successfully deflected actions from Benicia to Emeric.
4. Compulsive Bomb-proof Bomb-Diffuser * Corrina Cow: Successfully defused ???
5. Compulsive Ghoul (if targeted by the Anarchist, their target gets the bomb instead.) * Marlowe Monkey: Successfully target the hippo.
6. Compulsive Blocker Bartostz Bulldog: Successfully Blocked the Fox.
7. Compulsive Watcher
8. Tracker Bernicia Bear: Successfully Tracked the Raccoon who killed the Bunny. 
9. Virgin / Holbrook Horse. Did not get laid.
10.  Compulsive Hooker Shainen Sheepdog: fuuccced w/ Parvini Poodle
11. Compulsive Hider (If they hide behind a bomb recipient, receives one too) Emeric Elephant: Hid behind the Fox.
12. Fruit Vendor Leatrix Lamb: Successfully Give fruit to Rutherford Raccoon (confirmed)
13. Encryptor (If given to Scum, they are able to communicate during the Day)
14. Baby Dragon Bath Hippo?: ???
15. Baby Dragon Bed Time Story Fracezca Fox: Unsuccessfully target the Goat.

 

Are we still missing someone? I'm worried by the unclaimed Encryptor role. 

[Parvani Poodle]

Ok, now that we have verified alignments to work from, let's see what Dragon Baby Hater Bixby had to say during his short stay among us.

Day one, a single post and a vote:

On 8/10/2020 at 10:03 PM, Bixby Bunny said:

Whew. What a day already. Sorry for not being around much [real-world issues got in the way, so I appreciate the host extending the day due to circumstances] and there's so much to process. And don't believe what you hear about bunnies and carrot-eating - our eyesight SUCKS. Makes it slow to get thru all this. Bulldog, I appreciated your translation of the list!

No, I don't think you're making it up. It's clearly a real thing. But I don't buy that it's a nothing/vanilla/just-for-fun role. My gut says you're hiding your real role - and that'd be a BIG gamble, hoping that no one actually got the slumber party today. Unless, of course, you're scum and a fellow scum buddy got the slumber party and y'all have the encryptor. I guess you want to hide your real ability and screw with us - and us bunnies like to screw, not be screwed with. 

Vote: Mobley Mouse

Go check the logs of the previous boat and you'll see a distinct lack of bunnies.

Also, care to explain what the "3 options" part of the falsifier role is? Might help us in the future to know what all it can do in case it falls into the wrong hands. 

Not much here except a justification for bandwagoning on Mobley.

Day two:

On 8/13/2020 at 7:44 PM, Bixby Bunny said:

Bad morning, y'all. I was successful in protecting Benicia. Doesn't look like it mattered since we got 2 others dead... but I chose her since she seemed to be legitimately helpful yesterday. I didn't have a ton of time to spend on day 1, but her posts gave me a bit of a town vibe, and my role was compulsive, so I used it on her. 

Did a little research on today's roles. Fruit vendor - you give fruit to your target. Does nothing other than you can be tracked/watched/etc doing something. 

It also looks like a risky day for us. We've got 2 roles that can prevent this scum bomb from killing one of us (defuser and blocker), but also a role that would DOUBLE it's impact (hider). And a couple that move it around, so it's all sorts of screwy. And of course, the scum have both a godfather and blocker to mess with us. 

Also, I'm curious if Mobley was telling the truth about that slumber party.... since the lullaby had additional abiliity beyond just being for amusement. 

What does Bixby protecting Benicia tell us about her alignment? Was Bixby playing safe and going for a townie target, or did he chance it and protected a fellow scum? Could he have lied about his night action? He could have targeted someone else, but it would have been pretty risky to lie about his target with so many roles in play. Maybe he didn't use his assigned action and killed Caladon instead. Again he could have been caught lying, but one would expect that there's a price to pay for going about killing people at night. Did he really have a protection action anyway? The Trickster would know if he lied about his assigned role though, yet nobody attempted to cast suspicion on Bixby yesterday. Unless last night's Vig is actually the Trickster, but that seems to have been ruled out.

 

On 8/13/2020 at 8:55 PM, Bixby Bunny said:

Given that it was a compulsive vig, I don't think any of us hold it against you. I know I don't... heck, I was voting for the mouse. He was the best choice you could have made IMHO.  

Of course.

 

On 8/13/2020 at 9:22 PM, Bixby Bunny said:

Poodle, that's a lot of crying for someone who supposedly just switched people. Were you buddies with Caladon to make you this upset that he's dead instead of Gilford?  

In retrospect, it doesn't even make sense, because Caladon was confirmed townie. Caladon and I couldn't be part of the same Scum team.

 

On 8/13/2020 at 10:20 PM, Bixby Bunny said:

Looks like Caladon probably had the rolestopper. It's not obvious who he would have used it on. We had a bunch of unsuccessful people, but all would be explained by the scum turning off investigative roles. So probably Caladon targeted one of them and his role was useless. His action would have gone thru before he was killed, correct?  

 

 

On 8/15/2020 at 5:06 PM, Bixby Bunny said:

Vote: Extend the Day

 

Because I didn't expect you to reappear. Rolestopper was the only mandatory role we didn't have a claim on yet, so I assumed he was it. 

 

I'm not gonna deny that my vote looked a little wagony. The reality was I was absent for the day until I got online to make that post, so I had to read and vote fairly quick [real-life issues; not gonna say more till game is over so I don't reveal my real identity]

The summaries don't count for much in my scum/town analysis, but I have appreciated them so far since my time has been limited. Concise recitations of the vital information is useful in my considerations. 

Normally, informative roles are vital to the scum in figuring out who to kill, but since roles constantly change on this airship, you're right, they're useless to the scum. I bet they actually hope to get them though just to keep out of hands of the town. Since they blocked the informative roles, I'd lean towards the town having at least a few of them. If the scum had most of the informatives, they probably would have blocked something else. It's not a certainty, but it's enough to bump the informative holders up a point in my rating system... 

Not sure what to make of this. Are we to believe that in truth Scum did have most of the informative roles on night One? I doubt it, because he was scum and he didn't have an investigative role. I'm inclined to believe Bixby here.

 

On 8/16/2020 at 3:15 PM, Bixby Bunny said:

Yeah, I can't see the trickster WANTING to get caught. One has to assume their win condition involves staying alive, at least to a certain point. 

As Scum, Bixby wouldn't know anything more than we do about the Trickster's real motivations.

 

On 8/17/2020 at 5:12 PM, Bixby Bunny said:

You seem determined to beat up Marlowe here.... but what else is someone supposed to do when they have a compulsive block action on NIGHT ONE? A gut feeling is literally all they have to go on. 

Since the case against Rutherford fell apart, I'm going to 

Vote: Leatrix Lamb 

since your logic there is quite flawed. It's giving me a gut feeling. And voting is mandatory. 

Oh yeah... why didn't you include yourself in that list? You (at the time of that post) had been as quiet as the rest of your list... 

A late day vote, either a token vote for a fellow scum or a last minute attempt to misdirect the night actions. And of course there was some pressure to cast any vote because the day was ending.

So what to take home from all this? I am left with mild suspicions on Leatrix and Benicia, and it's all very WIFOMy. Ironically I was getting a rather positive vibe from Benicia until now, which is why I attempted to protect her from harmful actions. What do I know. If she turns out to be Scum, then I'm probably Scum too.

[Gilford Goat]

That's right it was Bunny's vote for the Lamb. I thought it was WIFOMy as well.

Lol maybe Benicia was salty.

[Bartosz Bulldog]

Anyone else think it's kinda sus that 2 nights in a row the rolewatcher or tracker has claimed to have witnessed the beary very public Vig kill? 

Borf.

[Marlowe Monkey]

It does seem very convenient although Bixby being scum makes it seem less suspicious. And wasnt the watcher unsuccessful yesterday?

[Bartosz Bulldog]

32 minutes ago, Marlowe Monkey said:

It does seem very convenient although Bixby being scum makes it seem less suspicious. And wasnt the watcher unsuccessful yesterday?

ROLEwatcher. The Fox. 

I must confess I'm fairly suspicious of both Bernicia and Francezca at this point although I do wonder if the bloody Bunny protecting Bernicia so openly was to muddy the waters (that's my job!) when action analysis arose. But then again, if I were scum and was given a protector role, I'm not sure I'd pass that opportunity up to protect my own. That combined with the convenient tracking result (and admittedly in-character defensiveness upon viewing my suspicion of her yesterday) puts Bernicia at the top of my list.  The pail is murky and the silt has yet to settle, but I'm beginning to see the signs and patterns. I wonder if there is scum amidst the muck of my pail.

[Benicia Bear]

OH YEAH OH YEAH OH FFS

LEATHER DADDY BULLDOG HAS HEAD STUCK IN PAIL

SERIOUSLY Bartosz, you seem to be determined to find me suspicious of something. First it's of being the Trickster, and now it's of being scum. To quote our resident Guard Captain (AND HOLBROOK THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS MEME SO IT'S TO HAND): 

14 hours ago, Holbrook Horse said:

IS IT BECAUSE Bixby said she protected me? Maybe she did, maybe she didn't, who knows? Maybe if she actually did then she did so because she thought the role watcher might target me? Maybe she protected someone else and thought she'd look more town by saying she protected me? MAYBE SHE DID SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT? Only her scum buddies will have an insight into that. Seriously dude, wtf.

3 hours ago, Parvani Poodle said:

What does Bixby protecting Benicia tell us about her alignment?

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING unless you love WIFOM.

3 hours ago, Parvani Poodle said:

Not sure what to make of this. Are we to believe that in truth Scum did have most of the informative roles on night One? I doubt it, because he was scum and he didn't have an investigative role. I'm inclined to believe Bixby here.

WHY WOULD THE scum turn off all the informative roles if the scum HAD most or all the informartive roles? They might have had one and just not wanted to risk the others being used against them, but it would be strange if they'd had most of them.

3 hours ago, Parvani Poodle said:

I am left with mild suspicions on Leatrix and Benicia, and it's all very WIFOMy. Ironically I was getting a rather positive vibe from Benicia until now, which is why I attempted to protect her from harmful actions. What do I know. If she turns out to be Scum, then I'm probably Scum too.

RETURNING TO YOUR MILD suspicion:

14 hours ago, Holbrook Horse said:

THANK YOU FOR protecting me, especially if Emeric blows up tomorrow night. Although I don't want Emeric or anyone else to blow up tomorrow night.

1 hour ago, Bartosz Bulldog said:

Anyone else think it's kinda sus that 2 nights in a row the rolewatcher or tracker has claimed to have witnessed the beary very public Vig kill? 

Borf.

I didn't have the rolewatcher role ond Day One, so I'm not clear of what you're trying to accuse me of now.

 

Since people were asking about choice of targets, now seems a good time to discuss mine. I was going to either track Hyacinth or Rutherford, and I chose Rutherford on balance (that guy everyone thought was the trickster up until a few hours ago, remember?) because Hyacinth should have been able to confirm herself by giving out her Baby Dwagon Baf. Speaking of which.....

14 hours ago, Hyacinth Hippo said:

Hello everyone. This is good news that Bixby was scum. This proves that Rutherford isn't the Trickster. Interesting as well that the Fox was blocked last night. That seems to be the best place to look today.

No mention on whether you were successful, or who you gave the Bath action to? Are you waiting to see how the night actions were reported? We already have two people who were apparently blocked, so you must have given it to somebody, right? But nobody has said they've received it.

 

[Holbrook Horse]

I have a number of things to consider so bear with me please.

15 hours ago, Corrina Cow said:

If It had actually been the full defusal, I bet we would have seen something in the intro.

I reiterate, why would you think this? As I reread today's comments in the sober light of a heady night (I fell asleep standing up in my barrel!), Bartosz's comment (although about a different post of Corrina's) rings more and more true:

16 hours ago, Bartosz Bulldog said:

The waste water gives me grave omens about acting under false pretenses due to misunderstandings.

Wet's now hawe a fink about de twictew wowes, specificawwy dose endowed wif baby dwagon magic. So far we've had the lullaby, the slumber party, the bath and the bedtime story. On the first night Mobley had the slumber party and might have done something with it, and Corrina gave the lullaby to Benicia. On the second night Franczeska was apparently unable to read her story to Gilford, and Hyacinth hasn't reported in on the baby dragon bath.

However, Benicia reports having sung a lullaby to a baby dragon during night one:

On 8/14/2020 at 8:25 AM, Benicia Bear said:

SO THAT EXPLAINS why I was told I sang a lullaby to a baby dwagon last night,

We haven't heard from anyone who may have gone to a slumber party, and we haven't heard from anyone who may have had a baby dragon bath. The slumber party and the lullaby are up again today so we may be able to learn more about those actions, but Benicia stands out to me as confirming having been the target of a baby dwagon action. This is consistent with Benicia being the Twicktew in two ways:

1. She knows she was targeted by the lullaby because she absorbed the action;
2. She doesn't know what the lullaby actually does because the action had no effect on her because she absorbed the action, so she faked it.

And if we had a separate fruit vendor role on the second night, why would the baby dragon roles also have an aspect of fruit vending in addition to their 25% properties? I think Benicia's lying about being told she sang a lullaby.

Bartosz keeps assuming the Trickster can't assign him/herself a role. He includes this caveat each time he states it but I think it's an unjustified (and unjustifiable) assumption, considering what I've already pointed out about the rules on this ship. Fortunately he has of late come around:

12 hours ago, Bartosz Bulldog said:

The trickster can't be given a role

17 hours ago, Hinckley said:

Players may not target themselves, unless otherwise noted in your role PM.

3 hours ago, Bartosz Bulldog said:

As I considered yesterday, it'd be unreasonable for exactly the reason I demonstrated if the Trickster can't give themselves something.

And this again plays into my suspicion that Benicia is the Trickster:

2 hours ago, Bartosz Bulldog said:

Anyone else think it's kinda sus that 2 nights in a row the rolewatcher or tracker has claimed to have witnessed the beary very public Vig kill? 

It's easily explained if the tracker knows who the vig is because they're the one giving out actions and we can explain the rolewatch on Mobley as luck.

Let's now consider Bixby's contributions to the smooth sailing of this ship. On day 2 she announced she had protected Benicia. Parvani asks:

4 hours ago, Parvani Poodle said:

What does Bixby protecting Benicia tell us about her alignment?

As Bixby was scum, she would have known the informational roles were to be turned off on the first night, so watcher, tracker, investigator, voyeur were out of the picture. Rolewatcher is the only risk left, and Franczeska claimed before Bixby did:

On 8/13/2020 at 5:50 PM, Franczeska Fox said:

I was a rolewatcher, so I decides to watch Mobley anddd see what *hic* appens, he was targeted by a compulsive vig

On 8/13/2020 at 7:44 PM, Bixby Bunny said:

I was successful in protecting Benicia.

If Benicia is a scum teammate, why fess up to protecting her? Why not lie and say she protected a townie instead, especially since at that stage there was no risk to her in doing so? I think either Bixby protected Benicia genuinely, or she protected someone else and said it was Benicia after the fact. Benicia would actually know the answer, because she absorbed the action.

On 8/13/2020 at 9:22 PM, Bixby Bunny said:

Poodle, that's a lot of crying for someone who supposedly just switched people. Were you buddies with Caladon to make you this upset that he's dead instead of Gilford? 

Parvani has already pointed out how pointless this accusation is, apparently throwing things out to see what sticks. Next she makes wild suppositions about Caladon:

On 8/13/2020 at 10:20 PM, Bixby Bunny said:

So probably Caladon targeted one of them and his role was useless.

Who's "them"? Scum? I'm confused. It looks like more spaghetti on the wall.

On 8/17/2020 at 5:12 PM, Bixby Bunny said:

You seem determined to beat up Marlowe here.... but what else is someone supposed to do when they have a compulsive block action on NIGHT ONE? A gut feeling is literally all they have to go on. 

All you have is a gut feeling... unless you're scum and have privileged information... this reads as a soft defense of Marlowe and (as others have pointed out) inducing WIFOM on Leatrix with the omg-u-suck-for-accusing-someone-else vote.

[Holbrook Horse]

two notes:

54 minutes ago, Holbrook Horse said:

She doesn't know what the lullaby actually does

Benicia as trickster would know what the lullaby does but wouldn't know I think whether the host would report the action to the target, as she claims has happened.

55 minutes ago, Holbrook Horse said:

Benicia would actually know the answer, because she absorbed the action.

I was caught up in how stylish my italics were and didn't change them when I copy/pasted from earlier in my post. Benicia would know if she had been protected because as trickster she would have absorbed the action. If Bixby had protected someone else, Benicia wouldn't have absorbed it of course.

[Benicia Bear]

OH FFS 

47 minutes ago, Holbrook Horse said:

However, Benicia reports having sung a lullaby to a baby dragon during night one

YEAH I DID, BECAUSE I GOT A PM FROM THE HOST TELLING ME I DID.

47 minutes ago, Holbrook Horse said:

We haven't heard from anyone who may have gone to a slumber party, and we haven't heard from anyone who may have had a baby dragon bath. The slumber party and the lullaby are up again today so we may be able to learn more about those actions, but Benicia stands out to me as confirming having been the target of a baby dwagon action. This is consistent with Benicia being the Twicktew in two ways:

1. She knows she was targeted by the lullaby because she absorbed the action;
2. She doesn't know what the lullaby actually does because the action had no effect on her because she absorbed the action, so she faked it.

NO DUMBASS, I WAS GIVEN THE ROLE OF SINGING A LULLABY TO THE BABY DWAGONS, SO I DID. IT IS CONSISTENT WITH ME BEING GIVEN THE ROLE. 

It's hard to paraphrase a short (and unexpected) night action result, but it essentially said words to the effect of: You sang a lullaby to a baby dragon last night, except it was in baby dwagon speak, so wuwwaby and dwagon.

 @Corrina Cow, is there anything you can share from your role PM for Day/Night One that might clear up this craziness?

47 minutes ago, Holbrook Horse said:

And this again plays into my suspicion that Benicia is the Trickster

BASED ON what?? Wishful thinking?

I don't like how you and Bartosz are lining up to get rid of me, especially with soft support from Parvani. Why are none of you all that bothered about Hyacinth? Or are you trying to lay groundwork for her to be able to say "well of course I used that action and the reason nobody will confirm it is because we have all now agreed that people don't get a PM from the host with Baby Dwagon actions." EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT WE DO GET A PM FROM THE HOST, BECAUSE I DID.

 

[Corrina Cow]

6 minutes ago, Holbrook Horse said:

I reiterate, why would you think this?

Sorry, I missed that the first time as meme spam. My thought was perhaps misguided, but a bit of wishful thinking at seeing the bomb tossed over the side, safely defused, and then exploding (but harming no one) as we all looked away because we're cool like that. It was a holdover from night 1 when I used the Baby Dragon Lullaby and hoped, nay, expected to see a lullaby in the next intro. I keep expecting more theatrics in the comics, I can't imagine why.

2 minutes ago, Benicia Bear said:

 @Corrina Cow, is there anything you can share from your role PM for Day/Night One that might clear up this craziness?

I was only told that I had successfully protected you, there was no mention of the lullaby itself.

[Holbrook Horse]

3 minutes ago, Benicia Bear said:

you and Bartosz are lining up to get rid of me

nobody's lining up for everything. I hit the sack after a long evening of posting may-mays and this theory came to me in my sleep. Took a while to get everything down but it all fits.

4 minutes ago, Benicia Bear said:

Hyacinth? Or are you trying to lay groundwork for her to be able to say "well of course I used that action and the reason nobody will confirm it is because we have all now agreed that people don't get a PM from the host with Baby Dwagon actions."

Well it's a damn shame we haven't got more from Hyacinth but why would she know whether the target gets a PM from the host? Nobody has stepped forward to say they had a baby dwagon baf and I can't think of any reason someone would want to keep that under wraps.

5 minutes ago, Corrina Cow said:

seeing the bomb tossed over the side, safely defused, and then exploding (but harming no one) as we all looked away because we're cool like that.

but the rules say any bomb planted last night wouldn't explode until tonight?

[Benicia Bear]

5 minutes ago, Corrina Cow said:

I was only told that I had successfully protected you, there was no mention of the lullaby itself.

Fair enough; I went back to look, and you were the first one to post and say you protected me. I wouldn't be difficult for an evil bunny to come along and say "oh yeah, I totally protected her too" especially knowing the scum had turned off all the investigative roles and that the rolewatcher had already claimed to watch Mobley. I'm not saying you're complicit in that, just for the record.

 

7 minutes ago, Holbrook Horse said:

Took a while to get everything down but it all fits.

What fits?

7 minutes ago, Holbrook Horse said:

Well it's a damn shame we haven't got more from Hyacinth

Yeah you sound so, so sad

7 minutes ago, Holbrook Horse said:

Hyacinth but why would she know whether the target gets a PM from the host?

BECAUSE I TOLD YOU ALL I DID YESTERDAY WITH THE LULLABY

7 minutes ago, Holbrook Horse said:

Nobody has stepped forward to say they had a baby dwagon baf and I can't think of any reason someone would want to keep that under wraps.

AND THAT WAS MY POINT, NOBODY WOULD WANT TO KEEP THEIR PM SAYING THEY GAVE A BATH TO THE DWAGONS UNDER WRAPS, SO NOBODY HAS, AND HYACINTH DIDN'T USE HER ACTION BECAUSE SHE WAS BUSY SETTING BOMBS. OR BLOCKING.

 

[Leatrix Lamb]

5 hours ago, Bartosz Bulldog said:

Deflector * Parvini Poodle: Successfully deflected actions from Benicia to Emeric.

Compulsive Hooker Shainen Sheepdog: fuuccced w/ Parvini Poodle

Are we still missing someone? I'm worried by the unclaimed Encryptor role. 

Am I the only one who sees an inconsistencyyyyyyyy in these night action results? I had to look it up, but from what I understaaaaaaaaand from the Big Book of the Forest God, a hooker normally blocks a plaaaaaayer from performing their aaaaaaaaction. I know I asked earlier, but Parvani: were you succeeeeeeessful?

If we can trust all role claims, Bixby either had the watcher or encryptor, with the other role left unassiiiiiiiigned.

 

Regarding the baby dragon roles, so far we've had fooooouuuuuur. If we are to believe what the recipients have claaaaaaaiiiiiiimed, it seems like there is one "25% chance" role (lullaby and bedtime story) and one "vanilla" role (slumber party and bath) eeeeeeeeevery night. Franczeska claims hers was blocked, but if the recipients get notified they were taaaaaaaaargeted, we should have also heard of an effect from the recipients of Mobley's slumber party ticket and Hyacinth's bathing aaaaaaaaaction. 

Mobley didn't drop any hints as to who the recipient might beeeeeee, except for telling Franczeska he could hook her up with a tiiiiiiiicket:

On 8/9/2020 at 8:56 AM, Mobley Mouse said:

if you ask nicely, maybe i can hook you up with a ticket to sleep with the dragons

I certainly don't trust Hyacinth, but she promised me I'd get to bathe the baby draaaaaaaaagons. Why claaaaaiiiim if she wasn't going to use it? She hasn't confirmed she actually targeted meeeeeeeee last night, but I haven't heard from the Forest God that I bathed adowable baby draaaaaaaaagons.

And then there's the point of the fruit vendor rooooooole, which would then serve the saaaaaaaame purpose as the "vanilla" baby dragon roles.

[Benicia Bear]

I'M STILL HERE AND STILL TALKING

8 minutes ago, Leatrix Lamb said:

but if the recipients get notified they were taaaaaaaaargeted, we should have also heard of an effect from the recipients of Mobley's slumber party ticket  

NO, successful recipients are told they do something, which is different. There isn't a notification either way, even if they are targeted.

IT IS POSSIBLE Mobley targeted Caladon. It is possible it was one of the scum and the result was lost amongst the excitement of scum night action results. It is also possible Mobley didn't use it, as he vocally thought it was useless.

8 minutes ago, Leatrix Lamb said:

I certainly don't trust Hyacinth, but she promised me I'd get to bathe the baby draaaaaaaaagons. Why claaaaaiiiim if she wasn't going to use it? She hasn't confirmed she actually targeted meeeeeeeee last night, but I haven't heard from the Forest God that I bathed adowable baby draaaaaaaaagons.

YOU CERTAINLY DON'T TRUST HYACINTH BUT...

Myabe she claimed and was unable to follow through because the other scum needed her on something else. Maybe she missed the bit where recipients get a PM to say it was successful, so now there's an effort to throw that shade onto me. If you didn't get a notification from on high that you bathed the dwagons, then you didn't bathe the dwagons, but that would assume anything you say is true. 

@Omrom dear, sweet, adowable dwagon, did I sing you a lullaby on night one? Or maybe people would like to ask the Forest God questions themselves?

22 minutes ago, Leatrix Lamb said:

And then there's the point of the fruit vendor rooooooole, which would then serve the saaaaaaaame purpose as the "vanilla" baby dragon roles.

OH AND, DID RUTHERFORD SAY YOUR fruit came with a side of Voyeurism or Protection or something? Because in that case they serve very different purposes.

[Corrina Cow]

27 minutes ago, Holbrook Horse said:

but the rules say any bomb planted last night wouldn't explode until tonight?

So I just looked at the result again and I think I see a vague point I missed. I wish I didn't have to paraphrase it because the official wording is more vague, but it basically says that I successfully defuse any bomb given to my target. But it also doesn't confirm that a bomb was given to them, only might've been. I can't get the wording any closer without breaking the rules, but it's an easy point to miss in the excitement of seeing "successfully" in a result like this.

The stars are so much easier to read!

[Leatrix Lamb]

I understand it's not concluuuuusive and the possibilities you mention certainly crossed my miiiiiiind.

10 minutes ago, Benicia Bear said:

OH AND, DID RUTHERFORD SAY YOUR fruit came with a side of Voyeurism or Protection or something? Because in that case they serve very different purposes.

No strings attaaaaaaached as far as I know. Were you notified of the lullaby doing anything but singing to baby draaaaaaaagons? I understand the "25% chance" roles serve a different puuuuuuuurpose, but the "vanilla" baby dragon roles seem identical to the fruit vendor rooooooooole if they notify their recipients.

 

[Holbrook Horse]

1 hour ago, Benicia Bear said:

YEAH I DID, BECAUSE I GOT A PM FROM THE HOST TELLING ME I DID.

NO DUMBASS,

I take exception to being called a dumbass. I'm not stupid, I'm just accusing you of lying.

[Omrom]

44 minutes ago, Benicia Bear said:

 

@Omrom dear, sweet, adowable dwagon, did I sing you a lullaby on night one? Or maybe people would like to ask the Forest God questions themselves?

Oh, doodness! Weww, I don't weawwy fink it would be wight fow me to get invowved in dis. Dat might be iwwesponsibow to confiwm ow deny anyfing. Soowwwwy.  But, I wiww say dat I wove when peopow sing me to sweep! It's so nice.  

[Benicia Bear]

22 minutes ago, Leatrix Lamb said:

No strings attaaaaaaached as far as I know. Were you notified of the lullaby doing anything but singing to baby draaaaaaaagons? I understand the "25% chance" roles serve a different puuuuuuuurpose, but the "vanilla" baby dragon roles seem identical to the fruit vendor rooooooooole if they notify their recipients.

As I have already said, I was literally just sent a role PM in the morning saying I sang a lullaby to Baby Dwagons the previous night. Nothing about protection or anything else. 

 

6 minutes ago, Holbrook Horse said:

I take exception to being called a dumbass. I'm not stupid, I'm just accusing you of lying.

No that was out of line on my part, and I am sorry for calling you a dumbass. However, I'm not lying, and I take exception to that.  

 

4 minutes ago, Omrom said:

Oh, doodness! Weww, I don't weawwy fink it would be wight fow me to get invowved in dis. Dat might be iwwesponsibow to confiwm ow deny anyfing. Soowwwwy.  But, I wiww say dat I wove when peopow sing me to sweep! It's so nice.  

Ok, well I was told I sang to you. Thanks anyway.  

[Hinckley]

You may now vote. Hell, you can even lynch someone if you want to. With 13 players remaining, it takes 7 votes to reach a lynch. There are approximately 48 hours remaining in Day Three (interlude will be up much later).

Vote tally

Franczeska Fox: 3 (penalty, penalty, penalty)
Parvani Poodle: 3 (penalty, penalty, penalty)