Omrom Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Parvani Poodle said: Omrom, I don't know if you're allowed to tell but I'm asking anyway... Did the Scum also have a factionaw kiww on night 2? Weww, of couwse dey did, but wike I awweady saided, deiw kiww dat night was a anawchitz.
Parvani Poodle Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Omrom said: Weww, of couwse dey did, but wike I awweady saided, deiw kiww dat night was a anawchitz. Aw yes sowwy, I forgot that bit. So one of the deaths last night was from the bomb Scum have planted the night before. Got it. So Gilford couldn't have been the Scum killer/anawchitz on night 2. One thing to keep in mind, Scum has an extra unknown role last night. Have we got any evidence of unexplained actions?
Emeric Elephant Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Corrina Cow said: You targeted the hippo who targeted the horse targeting you targeting the hippo targeting the horse targeting you... Stop me before I keep repeating it. Ouch. That hurts me more than that... ghost... 1 hour ago, Gilford Goat said: Investigated the Elephant. Not scum. Well duh. Have you seen this trunk? I could store evil secrets up here day after day, but I blow my nose like crazy. Nothing is up there aside from nose hair. 13 minutes ago, Parvani Poodle said: Aw yes sowwy, I forgot that bit. So one of the deaths last night was from the bomb Scum have planted the night before. Got it. So Gilford couldn't have been the Scum killer/anawchitz on night 2. One thing to keep in mind, Scum has an extra unknown role last night. Have we got any evidence of unexplained actions? We're sure it's the bomb? I'm drunk as hell, but I thought other people said bomb no go off.
Marlowe Monkey Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Benicia Bear said: Could you explain your reasoning? Did you really think the scum would want to kill the person who so very nearly got lynched? 2 hours ago, Shainen Sheepdog said: You said you were the ghoul for Night 2 with Hyacinth as your target. So, you were happy for any bombs given to you on Night 2 to be passed onto Hyacinth. But last night you decided to protect the person you were happy to kill the night before? Okay, so Hyacinth and Francessca were both on the verge of being lynched yesterday and both had the chance to make a final kind of plea if you will (and both did). Francessa didn't really do much too defend herself and piled on the Hippo bandwagon. Whilst Hippo made what felt like (to me) a genuine townie post. It just didn't feel like it was coming from a scum perspective. So it changed my perspective in her and I changed my vote to Francessca. (Which we can see was now wrong). Like Corinna, I didn't have much useful information to work with since you sort of have to predict who the scum will target. I assumed that when the Bomb exploded it would kill anyone who targeted that player so my logic was that the scum would ideally target someone who was likely to be targeted by lots of people. So I went for Hycainth since I felt it was likely she would be targeted.
Parvani Poodle Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, Emeric Elephant said: We're sure it's the bomb? I'm drunk as hell, but I thought other people said bomb no go off. There have been three deaths last night, and I'm thinking of ways they could add up. 1) scum kill 2) bomb from night 2 that wasn't defused 3) pumpkin shooting lasers out of his ass 4) vengeful if there was one or more among last night's victims 5) unaccounted-for action? We know Franczeska was lynched. What about the others?
Shainen Sheepdog Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, Parvani Poodle said: There have been three deaths last night, and I'm thinking of ways they could add up. 1) scum kill 2) bomb from night 2 that wasn't defused 3) pumpkin shooting lasers out of his ass 4) vengeful if there was one or more among last night's victims 5) unaccounted-for action? We know Franczeska was lynched. What about the others? Vengeful doesn't in itself kill anyone. Rather, the action they had would have been invoked if they had been lynched or killed. That is how my pm explained it, but not in those exact words of course.
Corrina Cow Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Parvani Poodle said: 2) bomb from night 2 that wasn't defused 3) pumpkin shooting lasers out of his ass My defuse target didn't blow up and Marlowe says he defused Hyacinth, so I have to assume the bomb went off and killed either Rutherford or Bartosz, with the scum killing the other. Her ass, thank you very much.
Shainen Sheepdog Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 So, if I had died last night, I would have been given the opportunity to investigate someone.
Corrina Cow Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 Just now, Shainen Sheepdog said: Vengeful doesn't in itself kill anyone. Rather, the action they had would have been invoked if they had been lynched or killed. That is how my pm explained it, but not in those exact words of course. That confirms what Benicia told me about vengeful as well, so it's either the truth or the scum are coordinating that claim, which would be difficult unless all the vengeful roles went to scum. Seems unlikely to be a lie.
Parvani Poodle Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Shainen Sheepdog said: Vengeful doesn't in itself kill anyone. Rather, the action they had would have been invoked if they had been lynched or killed. That is how my pm explained it, but not in those exact words of course. Ok thanks. I was going by the "rulebook" definition of Vengeful which involved killing a player. 6 minutes ago, Corrina Cow said: My defuse target didn't blow up and Marlowe says he defused Hyacinth, so I have to assume the bomb went off and killed either Rutherford or Bartosz, with the scum killing the other. Her ass, thank you very much. Her ass, sorry!
Holbrook Horse Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Marlowe Monkey said: I was the other diffuser. I am guessing from today's new my target was also unsuccessful. Of course you could have just spunked your action on something useless because it wasn’t in your interest to defuse the bomb 1 hour ago, Gilford Goat said: Oh and also bunbun protected your ass so there's that. Dude you’re drunk, put the wine down 1 hour ago, Marlowe Monkey said: I assumed that when the Bomb exploded it would kill anyone who targeted that player so my logic was that the scum would ideally target someone who was likely to be targeted by lots of people. So I went for Hycainth since I felt it was likely she would be targeted. y tho To be clear: marlowe’s interprestatin of what a bomb does is so ludicrously off the mark it sounds like he’s making nicht excuses for wasting his action
Gilford Goat Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 41 minutes ago, Holbrook Horse said: Dude you’re drunk, put the wine down Am I mixing names or something? Pretty sure Bunny said she protected the Bear. We already talked about it and everything.
Shainen Sheepdog Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 6 hours ago, Corrina Cow said: That leaves the pumpkin. I was so sure that we had figured things out yesterday, between the fox and the hippo, one being scum and the other the trickster. In one scenario, we'd lynch a scum and the pumpkin would fail to kill the other since they're neutral and we'd know today's lynch. Or, we'd lynch the neutral and kill a scum. We couldn't have been more wrong. Just to confirm, you were the vig that killed Hyacinth?
Corrina Cow Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 51 minutes ago, Holbrook Horse said: To be clear: marlowe’s interprestatin That was clear? Have you been drinking? 52 minutes ago, Holbrook Horse said: marlowe’s interprestatin of what a bomb does is so ludicrously off the mark it sounds like he’s making nicht excuses for wasting his action It honestly confuses me as well. As the first defuser, I never considered anything like he's saying, nor did the role mention anything like it. I had no way to know who the second defuser was and directly asking seemed like an invitation to trouble, but I thought they might contact me and at least take a shot at coordinating their action with mine. I would have told them the details since mine was already done and couldn't be tampered with. It would have been a good way to avoid defusing the same person and wasting our opportunity. That never happened. I know that if we had discussed things, I wouldn't have recommended such a poor target. 15 minutes ago, Gilford Goat said: Am I mixing names or something? Pretty sure Bunny said she protected the Bear. We already talked about it and everything. I had to go back to check, but you're right, it was her, which actually makes it seem unlikely that she would have openly claimed to protect a fellow scum. Was she watched or something? I didn't sift through that much. 1 minute ago, Shainen Sheepdog said: Just to confirm, you were the vig that killed Hyacinth? Sadly, so. I felt absolutely certain.
Shainen Sheepdog Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Gilford Goat said: Investigated the Elephant. Not scum. Did the result state they were not scum, meaning Emeric could be town or trickster?
Gilford Goat Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Shainen Sheepdog said: meaning Emeric could be town or trickster? Yes.
Shainen Sheepdog Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Parvani Poodle said: Aw yes sowwy, I forgot that bit. So one of the deaths last night was from the bomb Scum have planted the night before. Got it. So Gilford couldn't have been the Scum killer/anawchitz on night 2. Why not? I thought the diffuser needed to target the person holding the bomb, not the person handing out the bomb. Or did I misunderstand how a diffuser works?
Corrina Cow Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 Just now, Shainen Sheepdog said: Why not? I thought the diffuser needed to target the person holding the bomb, not the person handing out the bomb. Or did I misunderstand how a diffuser works? The defuser tries to target anyone holding a bomb, as in a target, not the person giving it out. Nothing about defusing Gilford prevents him from being the anarchist.
Parvani Poodle Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Shainen Sheepdog said: Why not? I thought the diffuser needed to target the person holding the bomb, not the person handing out the bomb. Or did I misunderstand how a diffuser works? I think you're correct, but unless Gilford lied about it, he was blocked on night 2. He couldn't have been going about planting a bomb in Bartosz's pail. Of course as far as I know he was also targeted by Scum on night 1.
Gilford Goat Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Parvani Poodle said: Of course as far as I know he was also targeted by Scum on night 1. Thanks again for that lift. lmao Really pissed bulldog is dead.
Parvani Poodle Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gilford Goat said: Thanks again for that lift. You were lucky, Caladon not so much.
Leatrix Lamb Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 9 hours ago, Emeric Elephant said: What the shit. 9 hours ago, Holbrook Horse said: Well I watched Gilford targeting Emeric in the night. What made you target Emeriiiiiiic? 9 hours ago, Emeric Elephant said: I was the beholder and targeted the Hippo to learn what they saw, and I learned... I caaaaan't check exactly wheeeeen these words were saaaaiiiid ((it says "x hours ago"), but why did you waaaaaiiiiiiit for Holbrook to report his results before you reported yoooouuuuurs? We all heard Hyacinth claim tracker yesterdaaaaaaay and since she won't be around to confirm her target, it's a safe claaaaaiiiiim to make. 7 hours ago, Benicia Bear said: Twackew - Hyacinth tracked Holbrook targeting Emeric Do you knoooooow she targeted Holbrook or are you gathering this from Emeric's behoooooolder result? Oh, and Franczeska claimed to haaaaaaave the baby dragon lullaby yesterdaaaaaay. Knowing she was an emaaaaancipator, I can't see a reason for her to have lied about thaaaaaat. 4 hours ago, Marlowe Monkey said: Okay, so Hyacinth and Francessca were both on the verge of being lynched yesterday and both had the chance to make a final kind of plea if you will (and both did). Francessa didn't really do much too defend herself and piled on the Hippo bandwagon. Whilst Hippo made what felt like (to me) a genuine townie post. It just didn't feel like it was coming from a scum perspective. So it changed my perspective in her and I changed my vote to Francessca. (Which we can see was now wrong). Like Corinna, I didn't have much useful information to work with since you sort of have to predict who the scum will target. I assumed that when the Bomb exploded it would kill anyone who targeted that player so my logic was that the scum would ideally target someone who was likely to be targeted by lots of people. So I went for Hycainth since I felt it was likely she would be targeted. And you couldn't find a better taaaaaaarget to defuse? Even if Hyacinth maaaaaanaged to convince you, why do you think she was a likely target for a booooooomb? As Holbrook already pointed out, your interpretation of how the bomb woooooorks sounds like a very weird justification for waaaaaaasting your action. Like you had to find a taaaaaaarget, but it couldn't be Rutherfoooooord or Bartosz. 4 hours ago, Shainen Sheepdog said: Vengeful doesn't in itself kill anyone. Rather, the action they had would have been invoked if they had been lynched or killed. That is how my pm explained it, but not in those exact words of course. So, if I understand it correeeeeeectly, you and Benicia didn't specify a target, but would get to choose someone if you died? If Benicia is right about Rutherford also having a vengeful aaaaaaaaction, that would leave vengeful watcher for him. Let's hope we hear something useful from thaaaaaaat soon.
Holbrook Horse Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Gilford Goat said: Am I mixing names or something? Pretty sure Bunny said she protected the Bear. We already talked about it and everything. You’re not mixing it up, bunny did say she protected bear, but I think that’s WIFOM and that bear probs isn’t scum. Ofc at the time I thought Benicia was the trickster and I was wrong about that but my analysis still convinced me she’s not scum.
Shainen Sheepdog Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Holbrook Horse said: To be clear: marlowe’s interprestatin of what a bomb does is so ludicrously off the mark it sounds like he’s making nicht excuses for wasting his action In what way? I thought the bomb going off would result in anyone targeting that person being killed in the explosion. Isn't that the logic he was using for why he said he targeted Hyacinth - to protect any town roles that targeted her? The flaw in his logic was thinking that she would be a target for the scum kill. Assuming anything he said was truthful, of course.
Gilford Goat Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Shainen Sheepdog said: I thought the bomb going off would result in anyone targeting that person being killed in the explosion. Same. 4 hours ago, Leatrix Lamb said: Like you had to find a taaaaaaarget, but it couldn't be Rutherfoooooord or Bartosz. Meaning maybe he's scum and he didn't want to defuse his own bomb?
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