42123 McLaren Senna GTR

[howitzer]

3 minutes ago, rm8 said:

Look at the right rear wheel. It is connected with brown axle. All brown axles are with stop. In the model stop end is inside, and you can't insert such axle in differential. So....model is drive only rear left wheel. It 4x1 ultimate track car.

Enjoy the technic) Authenticity.

Eh, really? I hope that's some kind of mishap on the model used in the photosession and not something that's actually in the real model, as it would make this already in my opinion not that great car even worse.

The shape is nice enough generally, but I really don't like that hexagonal pattern on the front panels and mudguards, it doesn't replicate well at all in Lego form, as it is too small to form a continuous pattern over the different parts. So it just looks like a few separate panels with separate pattern instead of how the pattern looks in the real car.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

19 minutes ago, rm8 said:

It 4x1 ultimate track car without differential.

What a bummer!!

This is probably because the rear wheels use fat tires and rims (43.2 x 22 tires). Does the real car have bigger rear wheels?

Edited November 19, 2020 by Ngoc Nguyen

[Anio]

26 minutes ago, rm8 said:

Rear blue soft axle is 11 or 12. Roof pillar black axle is 14 or 16.

 

Look at the right rear wheel. It is connected with brown axle. All brown axles are with stop. In the model stop end is inside, and you can't insert such axle in differential. So....model is driven only rear left wheel. It is 4x1 ultimate track car without differential.

Enjoy the technic, authenticity. Build for real

It is not reddish brown.
It is classic red.

You're welcome.

[rm8]

2 minutes ago, Anio said:

It is not reddish brown.
It is classic red.

You're welcome.

oh, may be, so differential is possible?

 

[Anio]

I guess so.

[nahpets]

Is that also technic panel 5 & 6 in blue?

i think that is the first time.

[Jurss]

So there is new small panel 3x2. I was thinking what is used on Jeep hood.

[Jockos]

34 minutes ago, Anio said:

It is not reddish brown.
It is classic red.

You're welcome.

I just can't see it being red. How is that possible?

On other pics, the front reddish brown axles look more reddish.

[Bartybum]

37 minutes ago, Anio said:

It is not reddish brown.
It is classic red.

You're welcome.

That looks nothing like red to me - it's far too dark to be bright red

Edited November 19, 2020 by Bartybum

[R0Sch]

Front axle is reddish brown, back axle is lbg. The lifestyle pic is misleading.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

43 minutes ago, R0Sch said:

Front axle is reddish brown, back axle is lbg. The lifestyle pic is misleading.

Rear axle is projected to be LBG on driver's side and is non-LBG on the other side. This claim about rear axle color is disputed. Learn more about how 42123 is safe and secure. 

Edited November 19, 2020 by Ngoc Nguyen

[R0Sch]

3 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

Rear axle is projected to be LBG on driver's side and is non-LBG on the other side. This claim about rear axle color is disputed. Learn more about how 42123 is safe and secure. 

Ok. Let's wait for the first review. One wheel drive would be very unfortunate for a licensed race car model.

[amorti]

6 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

Rear axle is projected to be LBG on driver's side and is non-LBG on the other side. This claim about rear axle color is disputed. Learn more about how 42123 is safe and secure. 

Fake news! :D

[Vectormatic]

2 hours ago, rm8 said:

Look at the right rear wheel. It is connected with brown axle. All brown axles are with stop. In the model stop end is inside, and you can't insert such axle in differential. So....model is driven only rear left wheel. It is 4x1 ultimate track car without differential.

Enjoy the technic, authenticity. Build for real 

Ouch, rear left is LBG, so yeah, looks like a 42022 repeat, one tire fire for days.

 

Man, that really bums me out, i was just about to post how i think it looks pretty cool, much better then the corvette, and then we get a diff-less disappointment.

 

I wonder though, why is this thing diff-less? on 42022 it had to do with the steering axle running right through that area, but on this car, i dont see any mechanisms going through that general area other then drive.. The only thing i can think of would be making space for the humongous diffuser, which would be daftness of monstrous proportions for a technic set imho...

 

such a shame that the review NDA was moved to january, im hungry for more details on this thing

[AVCampos]

Could the wheels be connected to the differential via gears instead of directly? Yes that's odd, but also allows for having both differential and axle with stop.

[Jurss]

If pictures are available, then @Sariel is allowed to clarify this - about differential? At least - yes/no.

[Vectormatic]

@AVCampos could technically be possible, perhaps, but doesnt make any sense, especially given the size of the car, and that wouldnt explain the axle on the other side being normal LBG

 

[Gumalca]

Can an axle with stop be used on the new differential? I don't have that part, but I could imagine it's possible on the side of the big red gear before you assemble it.

If it's red then it wouldn't be a 5 or 7 long axle. Two different sized axles don't make sense, so no.

If it wouldn't be connected, then a 4 long axle with stop could be used, but it's a 5 long axle most probably.

Edited November 19, 2020 by Gumalca

[1gor]

2 minutes ago, Gumalca said:

Can an axle with stop be used on the new differential? I don't have that part, but I could imagine it's possible on the side of the big red gear before you assemble it.

I hope this answers your question

[Gumalca]

Just now, I_Igor said:

I hope this answers your question

No it does not answer it. It seems possible, if only there is enough space for the stop end inside of the diff.

[Vectormatic]

@Gumalca @I_Igor

Even if it is (which i cant quite make up from the pics, not sure if there is room for the stop), the reddish brown axle with stop is only available in 3L and 5L, not 8L (that one is DBG), so i dont see how that would work in a ~15 wide chassis with the diff in the middle. And besides that, im not sure what to point would be, sure pulling a driveshaft from a diff is annoying, but from wahat i can tell the gears cant fall out of the new diff if the axles are pulled out, so in the grand scheme it is a minor inconvenience.

[Gumalca]

21 minutes ago, vectormatic said:

so in the grand scheme it is a minor inconvenience. 

Loosing a wheel during play isn't a minor inconvenience. But of course it would only secure it for one side. Another thing is to have differently colored axles to make placing the differential easier. Seems quite a common issue to switch sides despite the hints already given in current instructions. But actually in this set it wouldn't even matter.

You are right, it should be a 7 long axle actually...

Edited November 19, 2020 by Gumalca

[steph77]

In my actual understanding of how it works Inside of it, it seems to me that the total lenght of the fake engine is not compatible with a correct positionning of a differential.

So i think that this differential as been moved backwards to allow the connection.

Problem for me, this move backwards seems to be by one only stud, this would mean that we may have a couple of 8T gears at each Wheel. Odd.

[Bartybum]

Even if there is a differential, why would they use the new one in a set that isn't motorised?

[Gray Gear]

4 hours ago, rm8 said:

Enjoy the technic, authenticity. Build for real

Goddamn it LEGO outdoing themselves once again