11 hours ago, GeoBrick said:

So do I.
In any case, I'm wondering now why not for instance a few suit creases were added to the CS minifigs.

In my opinion small details such suit creases look out of place on minifigs because their design is quite simplistic and blocky. Therefore I also prefer the classic smiley face and its variations.

I like this color mod:

https://brickset.com/article/117215/improving-the-new-renegade

Yes, all those colour changes are improvements. That's a good ratio of black to yellow. I don't think that the rear bit where the buggy goes is necessary, (it improves on the blank space but I think the buggy is a better inclusion,) and I'd add the arrow tiles in place of the 2x2 black tiles behind the front connections.

That goes quite a way to make it more in line with the old Blacktron sets.
Compared to the Blacktron Cruiser GWP however, I'm missing the central yellow line of the fuselage. And the black jumper plates next to the yellow grilles plates near the trusses could IMO stayed yellow.
Agreed with Artanis on adding arrow tiles behind the front modules.
Once I have the set, I also plan to integrate belly thrusters and a more accentuated RCS system on the craft as well.

 

Edited December 21, 2024Dec 21 by GeoBrick
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Anyone else feel like the cockpit is just a little too big? Idk, to me I feel like there were better windscreen pieces to choose as it is it seems too big for the rest of the model and makes the vehicle look a little dorkier (something I'm very much against as that's Blacktron 2's thing :P)

The "Brickset"-Version looks more like old Blacktron as it is darker for sure, but I am not sure if I like it more. It surely doesn´t looke bad, but at some points a bit more yellow wouldn´t be bad I think - maybe the best version would be a ship in between those two versions. But in the end that depends a lot on the personal preferences I guess.

I also like the Cargo thing they made, but I wouldn´t put it over the vehicle that is included in the set. But definitely something that would be a nice addition to the set.

15 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Anyone else feel like the cockpit is just a little too big? Idk, to me I feel like there were better windscreen pieces to choose as it is it seems too big for the rest of the model and makes the vehicle look a little dorkier (something I'm very much against as that's Blacktron 2's thing :P)

Not really. I mean sure, compared to the old set it is longer, and probably a shorter cockpit would look more like the old set - but the old also just had one pilot, while the new Set has two, so there is just more room required.

1 hour ago, Black Falcon said:

The "Brickset"-Version looks more like old Blacktron as it is darker for sure, but I am not sure if I like it more. It surely doesn´t looke bad, but at some points a bit more yellow wouldn´t be bad I think - maybe the best version would be a ship in between those two versions. But in the end that depends a lot on the personal preferences I guess.

I also like the Cargo thing they made, but I wouldn´t put it over the vehicle that is included in the set. But definitely something that would be a nice addition to the set.

Not really. I mean sure, compared to the old set it is longer, and probably a shorter cockpit would look more like the old set - but the old also just had one pilot, while the new Set has two, so there is just more room required.

I prefer the yellow color and the larger cockpit because it makes the set look more different from the original while still being distinctively Blacktron 1. It is good that there are some differences because I also plan to buy the original at some point.

1 hour ago, Black Falcon said:

Not really. I mean sure, compared to the old set it is longer, and probably a shorter cockpit would look more like the old set - but the old also just had one pilot, while the new Set has two, so there is just more room required.

I understand that, IDK if two pilots was the right call though, I think the ship suffers from the head of it being so large compared to the rest, It makes the rest of the ship look way more dinky to me and makes the wings on the side looks sorta pathetic. Seems I'm alone in that though.

Here's a good pic revealing the egregious amount of yellow in the new Renegade. It's everywhere!

Someone somewhere said the yellow around the cockpit was intended to achieve a similar shape as the original canopy. I can see that being the intent, but...they screwed up the shape of literally every other part of the ship so why take such extreme lengths for the back bit of the canopy?

6 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

Anyone else feel like the cockpit is just a little too big? Idk, to me I feel like there were better windscreen pieces to choose as it is it seems too big for the rest of the model and makes the vehicle look a little dorkier (something I'm very much against as that's Blacktron 2's thing :P) 

I think the size of the cockpit feels appropriate — besides scaling up the width of the canopy by 1.5x, it also makes the crew capacity twice that of the original (just as with the Galaxy Explorer redesign). The canopy does need to be longer proportionally to allow for this, but the end result is essentially as if if you cut the black bulge behind the original set's canopy in half, and recolored the front half Tr. Yellow to match the windscreen.

If you did want to keep the cockpit more proportional to the original set, you'd have to make the canopy not only two to four studs shorter, but also a full brick taller. I'm not sure any current windscreen pieces exist with quite the right proportions for that, and many of those that come close are way too curvy to fit this set's aggressive angular aesthetic.

9 hours ago, Artanis I said:

Yes, all those colour changes are improvements. That's a good ratio of black to yellow. I don't think that the rear bit where the buggy goes is necessary, (it improves on the blank space but I think the buggy is a better inclusion,) and I'd add the arrow tiles in place of the 2x2 black tiles behind the front connections.

The ratio is alright, but I'm not a big fan of how the yellow parts are kinda scattered about in over a dozen small splotches instead of forming a few longer bands of color. And even those yellow splotches aren't spread out all that evenly — for example, the mod leaves the cockpit with basically no Bright Yellow besides the insignia and the tips of the blasters under each wing, whereas the original Renegade had a long, thin yellow stripe along each side. Overall, I'm fine with having more yellow than the original Renegade if the yellow parts in question are arranged in clean bands of color like that instead of just haphazard splashes of yellow greeble.

By comparison, I love the idea of having a cargo bay that can take the rover's place as the Renegade's payload — not because I have anything against the rover design, but because being able to carry different payloads adds even more play and storytelling value. That said, I do have some gripes about Huw's version of the cargo bay:

• In the original set, the cargo bay's canopy was high enough to allow standing room for a minifigure, so if you wanted you could even remove the small rover from inside and replace it with a furnished lab or barracks. The canopy shape also gave it a futuristic angular shape that differentiated it from real-world cargo containers. By comparison, Huw's cargo container is very flat and boxy, and the use of slopes and trusses to shape the exterior instead of thinner panels gives it a very low "ceiling".
• Also, while Huw says he plans to add the standard clip and bar connections to the front and back once he has the parts he needs (which, again, adds great play and storytelling value!), I feel like that boxy shape is gonna look kinda awkward when combined with other sleeker-looking modules like the cockpit and engines.
• I appreciate that he kept the yellow stripe around the cargo bay, which is a great detail in both the original Renegade and his mod of the new one! But unlike in the original set, the placement of this yellow stripe leaves it entirely hidden when the cargo bay is "docked" on the new Renegade, so the only yellow bits that remain visible are the smaller plates on either end of the trusses.

12 minutes ago, danth said:

Someone somewhere said the yellow around the cockpit was intended to achieve a similar shape as the original canopy. I can see that being the intent, but...they screwed up the shape of literally every other part of the ship so why take such extreme lengths for the back bit of the canopy?

Could be as simple as "they thought it looked nice".  I definitely understand why you dislike that detail, but a lot of those sorts of likes/dislikes ultimately still come down to personal preference.

11 minutes ago, Aanchir said:

I think the size of the cockpit feels appropriate — besides scaling up the width of the canopy by 1.5x, it also makes the crew capacity twice that of the original (just as with the Galaxy Explorer redesign). The canopy does need to be longer proportionally to allow for this, but the end result is essentially as if if you cut the black bulge behind the original set's canopy in half, and recolored the front half Tr. Yellow to match the windscreen.

If you did want to keep the cockpit more proportional to the original set, you'd have to make the canopy not only two to four studs shorter, but also a full brick taller. I'm not sure any current windscreen pieces exist with quite the right proportions for that, and many of those that come close are way too curvy to fit this set's aggressive angular aesthetic.

The original cockpit is tiny, don't need the same exact proportions but like the GE it should take up roughly the same amount of space relative to the ship IMO. The smaller version of the same piece used in X-wings or the one used in the Blacktron GWP would work better with the rest of the ship for me. As I said personally it makes the rest look undersized relatively as the cockpit is the widest part while having super dinky wings

4 hours ago, danth said:

Here's a good pic revealing the egregious amount of yellow in the new Renegade. It's everywhere!

I'm not too fond of the yellow underneath the canopy, but it does give a "boost" to the cockpit's visibility. Removing it there would need a replacement somewhere else on the cockpit module.
I have a bigger 'problem' with all the yellow plates on the ventral side of the craft, to bottom it up so to speak.

That's definitely too much yellow for Blacktron 1. Suits Batman or the Space Police 3 villains, but I think I'm going to want to do some parts replacement when I get this set(s).

Well, that was fast! An adapter module MOC for the Cruiser GWP (50480) to be compatible with the new Renegade (10355) has emerged on Rebrickable by user Brickstertwo as of today, December 22nd. I built a copy on LDD and ordered it (along with the cockpit for the Cruiser) from Bricklink as of ten minutes ago, and plan on using it with my Renegade copy once I get it next week / whenever the BL parts show up.

I would post pictures of my digital version of this MOD of this MOC, but so many parts are missing in LDD it's just not worth it.

Edited December 23, 2024Dec 23 by Murdoch17

On 12/21/2024 at 3:33 AM, danth said:

I like this color mod:

On 12/21/2024 at 7:34 AM, Black Falcon said:

The "Brickset"-Version looks more like old Blacktron as it is darker for sure, but I am not sure if I like it more. It surely doesn´t looke bad, but at some points a bit more yellow wouldn´t be bad I think - maybe the best version would be a ship in between those two versions. But in the end that depends a lot on the personal preferences I guess.

On 12/21/2024 at 1:43 PM, Aanchir said:

The ratio is alright, but I'm not a big fan of how the yellow parts are kinda scattered about in over a dozen small splotches instead of forming a few longer bands of color. And even those yellow splotches aren't spread out all that evenly — for example, the mod leaves the cockpit with basically no Bright Yellow besides the insignia and the tips of the blasters under each wing, whereas the original Renegade had a long, thin yellow stripe along each side. Overall, I'm fine with having more yellow than the original Renegade if the yellow parts in question are arranged in clean bands of color like that instead of just haphazard splashes of yellow greeble.

I think that switching the crossbeam to black looks good (and I do not mind some of the ‘splotches’ of yellow, as it gives the impression of caution stripes), but the yellow around the cockpit needs to stay - Without it, the nose looks like an unsightly stack of black plates, and the canopy blends into the rest of the ship too much. 
The issue with the crossbeam, however, is that while black is more consistent with Blacktron I’s original colour balance, it also makes the structural features of the ship blend into a black blob; yellow is a bit too bright, but it gives the ship more definition. The real issue here is that Blacktron I only used two solid colours (black and yellow), which restricts what can be done to create visual contrast (without deviating and using dark grey, for instance). 
 

21 minutes ago, Murdoch17 said:

Well, that was fast! An adapter module MOC for the Cruiser GWP (50480) to be compatible with the new Renegade (10355) has emerged on Rebrickable by user Brickstertwo as of today, December 22nd. 

Nice! I look forward to seeing if this designer does a Renegade-compatible  version of the Invader’s cargo section as well! 
I am personally planning to just modify the Invader’s existing modules to be compatible with the Renegade (sizing the Invader up a bit in the process), so this is a good starting point for me to figure out how to do that! 
 

14 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Nice! I look forward to seeing if this designer does a Renegade-compatible  version of the Invader’s cargo section as well! 
I am personally planning to just modify the Invader’s existing modules to be compatible with the Renegade (sizing the Invader up a bit in the process), so this is a good starting point for me to figure out how to do that! 
 

 

@Huw Millington on Brickset has already built a cargo pod, just so you know. Sadly, these are the only two pictures, and there is no parts file or instructions for it @Classic_Spaceman!

Edited December 23, 2024Dec 23 by Murdoch17

Brick Fanatics has a comprehensive review of the 60446 Modular Galactic Spaceship. It looks like there's a treadmill and screen in the space behind the cockpit. Their review misquotes the price (it's $80 USD, not $100), but it's otherwise very informative. I can't wait to chase down the Galactic Spaceship with the Renegade for some deep space pirate action.

6 minutes ago, icm said:

Brick Fanatics has a comprehensive review of the 60446 Modular Galactic Spaceship. It looks like there's a treadmill and screen in the space behind the cockpit. Their review misquotes the price (it's $80 USD, not $100), but it's otherwise very informative. I can't wait to chase down the Galactic Spaceship with the Renegade for some deep space pirate action.

@icm The sets actually is $100 USD, as seen on LEGO's website.

Edited December 23, 2024Dec 23 by Murdoch17

You linked to the Renegade. The Galactic Spaceship shows as $80 when I look.

https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/modular-galactic-spaceship-60446

Edited December 23, 2024Dec 23 by icm

1 minute ago, icm said:

You linked to the Renegade. The Galactic Spaceship shows as $80 when I look.

Whoops! Misread your post and thought that 10355 was what was being discussed. Apologies.

Edited December 23, 2024Dec 23 by Murdoch17

Ok, so I managed to reverse engineer the cargo pod @Huw Millington designed and shared in this Brickset article, with a few embellishments in places. (nothing of which that impacts the dropping function from the set)

This model is heavily inspired by two pictures of Brickset owner Huw's MOD of set 10355, (Blacktron Renegade) this cargo pod MOC features an opening lid with plenty of room inside for ill-gotten goods.
NOTE: The MOC is missing four parts, 4x of 41682 in black used on the lid in spots that should be pretty obvious.

The rear of the cargo pod.

With the lid open.

A free LDD file of this model can be found at my Bricksafe page, for those interested.

Edited December 23, 2024Dec 23 by Murdoch17

Review of the spaceship from Duckbricks, absolutely incredible set. I loved the review, thankfully it’s from someone who is VERY passionate about space and this line in particular. I think I will be buying this day one. Somehow though, the middle section STILL is a mystery. Not shown in the review, which makes me wonder if it’s even accessible. Edit - it’s been discovered! Another giant leap for mankind! 

Edited December 24, 2024Dec 24 by a guy from somewhere

17 hours ago, icm said:

Brick Fanatics has a comprehensive review of the 60446 Modular Galactic Spaceship. It looks like there's a treadmill and screen in the space behind the cockpit. Their review misquotes the price (it's $80 USD, not $100), but it's otherwise very informative. I can't wait to chase down the Galactic Spaceship with the Renegade for some deep space pirate action.

Sorry I missed this! No need for Chris to answer then. Glad we can put that question to rest! 

19 hours ago, Murdoch17 said:

Ok, so I managed to reverse engineer the cargo pod @Huw Millington designed and shared in this Brickset article, with a few embellishments in places. (nothing of which that impacts the dropping function from the set)

This model is heavily inspired by two pictures of Brickset owner Huw's MOD of set 10355, (Blacktron Renegade) this cargo pod MOC features an opening lid with plenty of room inside for ill-gotten goods.
NOTE: The MOC is missing four parts, 4x of 41682 in black used on the lid in spots that should be pretty obvious.

The rear of the cargo pod.

With the lid open.

A free LDD file of this model can be found at my Bricksafe page, for those interested.

This is awesome.  Blacktron was one of my favorite themes when I was a kid. I never had the Renegade, only the Invader (and I got the Battrax a couple years ago). I like the idea of creating different pods or modules for the new version, depending on its mission or function.  I will be building something like then when I get the new Renegade.  Awhile ago, I got some of those black girders/supports to integrate into some spaceship designs, looks like Lego beat me to it lol.

Did anyone end up getting that black spaceship? (Did that movie even come out?) Discussion on that one seemed to really fall off a cliff! Was wondering about anyone's first-hand experience with it. (Not interested in getting it, just curious about how it fared in the end)