42131 - CAT D11 Bulldozer

[M_longer]

1 hour ago, Richombx said:

Can’t wait for someone to find a way to use the spare space to fit a few more motors and hub in. 

 

1 hour ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

Look at that huge space under the cabin. 

There's no free space inside. Whole build is really dense.

 

1 hour ago, jorgeopesi said:

Let´s see a real D11

You are showing older version, LEGO made the 2019-2021 gen.
 

[Seasider]

So many yellow parts … getting ready to do a raid on parts ordering if I don’t buy the whole set!

[Bricktrain]

1 minute ago, Seasider said:

So many yellow parts … getting ready to do a raid on parts ordering if I don’t buy the whole set!

the yellow 4x6 bent liftarms were getting scarce, plenty in this set, plus the new yellow frames and thin liftarms

 

4 minutes ago, Maaboo35 said:

Why?

Because I don't have black ones

[Zerobricks]

13 minutes ago, Maaboo35 said:

Depends on whether or not the CAT chews up its innards if you push it up an incline.

Nothing to chew up, the large angular motors are driving the planetary hubs which are driving the lower rear sprockets. 

[1974]

The real one is driven from the top sprockets, no? Isn't that like a CAT hallmark?

How does that fly with CAT? It would be like a 2WD Ford F150, no way that's gonna happen

[M_longer]

9 minutes ago, 1974 said:

How does that fly with CAT? It would be like a 2WD Ford F150, no way that's gonna happen

It's about how that model is built. Angular motors are enormous and placing the on the rear was the obvious choice. There are no space inside to fit the under the cab, because that place is taken by gearbox.

[1974]

That's the designer's choice. While the motors may be big, there could be a (geared) drivetrain and the gearbox could be moved around. Obviosly the designer did not think that the one thing that really sets CAT doxers apart from the rest, the driven elevated sprockets, were important at all

And that is not cool. But since CAT have gone all Ferrari/HD on the merch side I guess they don't care either

Edited August 27, 2021 by 1974

[efferman]

10 minutes ago, M_longer said:

It's about how that model is built. Angular motors are enormous and placing the on the rear was the obvious choice. There are no space inside to fit the under the cab, because that place is taken by gearbox.

We will see when i have this Chunky KitCat. First i have to see this Gearbox.

[M_longer]

Just now, efferman said:

First i have to see this Gearbox.

Lots of red t16 gears ;)

[Aleh]

There are no new L shape beams, in the bucket regular 6629 beams were used. I'm sure. And the galves are connected with 15100 pin connectors.

Also I see new chain link part, not just a new colour.

Then we can adjust track's elastic.

[jorgeopesi]

52 minutes ago, M_longer said:

You are showing older version, LEGO made the 2019-2021 gen.
 

Will you be agree with me that it is still a D11?. You are right again but I do not think that the measures change a lot between new and older versions, you remind me of Sheepo when he told me that a skyline did not use the V12 I had put on it  .

I am sorry to bring back old MOCs but I do not understand why the gearbox has to be huge, look at my D11, it is ridiculous in size and has a much more functions and I did it many years ago... it is more ugly too...

Caterpillar D11

Edited August 27, 2021 by jorgeopesi

[Ngoc Nguyen]

I'd say it's big for bigness's sake 

 

[M_longer]

29 minutes ago, jorgeopesi said:

I am sorry to bring back old MOCs but I do not understand why the gearbox has to be huge

Gearbox itself is average in size, but driveshafts for all 4 functions take a lot of space inside, especially riddiculously geard ladder mechanism.

[jorgeopesi]

8 minutes ago, M_longer said:

Gearbox itself is average in size, but driveshafts for all 4 functions take a lot of space inside, especially riddiculously geard ladder mechanism.

So Lego is going backwards what is the advantage of doing the same with more bricks... I have answered myself...

Edited August 27, 2021 by jorgeopesi

[Ngoc Nguyen]

2 minutes ago, jorgeopesi said:

what is the advantage of doing the same with more bricks.

 

15 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

I'd say it's big for bigness's sake 

 

 

[Maaboo the Witch]

1 hour ago, 1974 said:

It would be like a 2WD Ford F150, no way that's gonna happen

You mean like a Top Gear Rally Car(TM) that moves like it's driving on glue? Or a Mercedes-Benz Zetros Trial Truck(TM) that moves and turns slower than a slug with a limp? Yeah, right, can you imagine that ever happening...?

 

OH.

[1974]

Exactly

[M_longer]

2 minutes ago, jorgeopesi said:

So Lego is going backwards what is the advantage of doing the same with more bricks... I have answered myself...

@erictrax 's PR Dozer from 42100 is cheaper, has more functions and can lift itself off the ground.
I am really dissapointed by that CAT dozer, could be a masterpiece, yet is an oversized 8275.

[1974]

But it has a beautifully geared C+ plus ladder, a number one feature found on most AFOLs wishlists

[R0Sch]

Don't like the fact the designer used red 2L axles in visible locations, lbg connectors and liftarms instead of black or yellow ones and most annoying are the dbg ends and connectors for the linear actuators. The model is too big and too slow for the few functions it has. The fake cylinder instead of 2 more actuators for the ripper is also pretty lame. Hope it is better than the Volvo 6x6 dumper in terms of torque. I still like the good old 8275 way better.
And again no B-model for this behemoth. A tracked dumper or excavator would have been ideal.

Edited August 27, 2021 by R0Sch

[M_longer]

3 minutes ago, R0Sch said:

A tracked dumper or excavator would have been ideal.

No large turntable ;)
 

 

3 minutes ago, R0Sch said:

Hope it is better than the Volvo 6x6 dumper in terms of torque

It does not have gearbox for driving, just angular motors with Zetros hubs directly to sprockets.

[Maaboo the Witch]

7 minutes ago, R0Sch said:

And again no B-model for this behemoth. A tracked dumper or excavator would have been ideal.

R0Sch, pal, let it go. TLG ain't doing alternates for big sets no more.

I'm dreading the next phase - discontinuing B-models for smaller sets. Think that'll be the day I turn my back on Technic.

Edited August 27, 2021 by Maaboo35

[R0Sch]

2 minutes ago, M_longer said:

No large turntable ;)

It does not have gearbox for driving, just angular motors with Zetros hubs directly to sprockets.

This one does not need a turntable:


I know it has angular motors with hubs, but this does not mean anything if the model weighs over 5kg and stalls at the slightest load. Let's see how it performs in RL.

[jorgeopesi]

2 minutes ago, Maaboo35 said:

R0Sch, pal, let it go. TLG ain't doing alternates for big sets no more.

I'm dreading the next phase - discontinuing B-models for smaller sets. Think that'll be the day I turn my back on Technic.

Someone will do a tracked loader, the dificult part will be the bucket.

[Bartybum]

Yeah nah TLC you can piss off, the 42100 alternate is more playable better than this, AND has more functions. I'm not impressed with the megablocks motorised ladders and dummy cylinders in the slightest. This and the Zetros scream half-baked for how much they both cost.