42131 - CAT D11 Bulldozer

[TeamThrifty]

We do share the same hobby, and a magnificent one it is too!

The CAT ticks all my model boxes. Lots of parts, big scale, a practical form factor - Construction and agriculture for me are perfect for technic. Its expensive, but as i've commented before, i don't smoke and rarely drink. Smokers seem to spend £40 or £50 a week, drinkers probably the same. In 6 weeks the burn more cash than this set costs and have nothing to show for it.. Its all about perspective. When i was a kid, 853 was £12 (!!! Those were the days!!!), compared to that its a lot of money for sure. But for a hobby, a once a year flagship purchase...? Like i said, it all relative.

I buy one set a year usually as my collection is a decent size so i don't need parts, £350 a year on a hobby i love? I can live with that. I spend a lot of time in the mountains all year round and on motorbikes in summer, and both of those cost me more than lego. A lot more!! (and result in more hospital visits....). And compared to people who go to the pub every friday and saturday night, drinking and smoking, its actually reasonably priced... and i know thats a controversial thing to say, and it is expensive for a toy, but just consider the context i've described above... Peace. 

[Bartybum]

@TeamThrifty I'd be interested to see where you draw the line for a 4k piece set with only one smart hub, if you don't consider £350 a rip off

Edited September 9, 2021 by Bartybum

[Dylan M]

10 hours ago, Polarlicht said:

True words. But people collect and don't always have time to "play" everyday.

I hear you...

[TeamThrifty]

4 hours ago, Bartybum said:

@TeamThrifty I'd be interested to see where you draw the line for a 4k piece set with only one smart hub, if you don't consider £350 a rip off

I just explained my position pretty clearly!! I didn't say it wasn't expensive, what i did do was draw a cost comparison to what smokers and drinkers spend regularly and indeed, what i spend on other hobbies. I pay £800 for an arai helmet, £400 for alpinstar boots, £200 for a back protector, £180 for gloves and £1000 for my leathers.. and that not considering the cost of the bike. The petrol and tyres i go through just to run it..

My walking boots are £270, the crampons are £120, my jackets are £200 ish.. plus gloves and hats. Plus deisel driving there and back....

I'll repeat my position... Its definitely not cheap. But its cheaper than booze and cigarettes which people just accept, and its by far the cheapest of my hobby's. Its a comparison, not an absolute judgement on its price.

[Maaboo the Witch]

6 hours ago, Bartybum said:

 if you don't consider £350 a rip off

It's £420, actually.

[nerdsforprez]

Holy cow guys...this thread has already been closed once because of detractors.  No one gives a rip about how much you pay for things...

Honestly, I look forward to the day where we can discuss a set because of its technical or aesthetic properties... not 75% of a thread that is hundreds of comments long about a set's cost.....

[SNIPE]

1 minute ago, nerdsforprez said:

Holy cow guys...this thread has already been closed once because of detractors.  No one gives a rip about how much you pay for things...

Honestly, I look forward to the day where we can discuss a set because of its technical or aesthetic properties... not 75% of a thread that is hundreds of comments long about a set's cost.....

Amen.

Edited September 9, 2021 by SNIPE

[Jim]

The embargo lifts the 10th, which is tomorrow 

I will do my best to get the written part of my review published next Sunday.

[Jim]

And I am sure you will find a nice video review by @kbalage and Sariel tomorrow.

[TeamThrifty]

36 minutes ago, nerdsforprez said:

No one gives a rip about how much you pay for things...

Not strictly speaking correct... the reason its 75% full is because clearly people do. My responses are usually to offer the other side of the coin - that some of us will be buying it, and explaining my logic behind the decision (which i think is within the rules...). 

Cost is an issue to plenty of people. To generalise and say that no one gives a rip is meaningless, as are all generalisations. Personally between the cost-moaners and the C+-moaners, i think nearer 90% of a thread is taken up... and i REALLY couldn't give a rip about the C+ issue.. but thats not for you or me to say. Freedom to discuss the set is vital.

Cost is a factual element of the set. People will have opinions, and they're completely within their rights to discuss it... whether its fits with your agenda, my agenda, or not.

[Maaboo the Witch]

39 minutes ago, Jim said:

And I am sure you will find a nice video review by @kbalage and Sariel tomorrow.

Squee! Doin' the excited dance.

[nerdsforprez]

21 minutes ago, TeamThrifty said:

Not strictly speaking correct... 

Umm....back at 'ya....

 

My comment "no one gives a rip ...." was referring to your exhibit of how much you pay for all your hobbies.  It had nothing to do with the cost of this set.  Which yes, does fill up 75% (or more?) of this thread.  An exhibit of how much folks pay for all their hobbies.....not so much.  

[jorgeopesi]

I just found out it is a cheap set so up to now the previous ones have practically been giving them to us.

[Bartybum]

2 hours ago, nerdsforprez said:

Honestly, I look forward to the day where we can discuss a set because of its technical or aesthetic properties... not 75% of a thread that is hundreds of comments long about a set's cost.....

Yeah so do we

[Jim]

Three strikes and you're out. Let's wait til tomorrow. 

[Jim]

I have reopened the topic. Please stay on topic and don't turn this into a price discussion again.

[AVCampos]

OK, let's discuss stickers vs. prints instead. After that, B-models. And then direct-drive functions vs. single-motor gearboxes. Finally, for dessert, hiding mechanisms vs. skeletal structures. All while accusing LEGO designers of laziness.

I'm really setting myself up for a ban, I guess.

[thekoRngear]

11 hours ago, AVCampos said:

OK, let's discuss stickers vs. prints instead. After that, B-models. And then direct-drive functions vs. single-motor gearboxes. Finally, for dessert, hiding mechanisms vs. skeletal structures. All while accusing LEGO designers of laziness.

I'm really setting myself up for a ban, I guess.

Best prediction/portrayal ever 

Edited September 10, 2021 by thekoRngear

[ScT]

So, today is the day! Haven't seen anything yet though. Is there a specific time that info is allowed to be released perhaps?

[kbalage]

4 minutes ago, ScT said:

So, today is the day! Haven't seen anything yet though. Is there a specific time that info is allowed to be released perhaps?

15:00 CEST. Prepare your F5 button ;) 

[ScT]

16 minutes ago, kbalage said:

15:00 CEST. Prepare your F5 button ;) 

F5 key polished and ready!

[Jim]

I have started a Pricing Discussion Topic for you guys to go nuts.

[Maaboo the Witch]

Sariel's review is live.

 

[Ngoc Nguyen]

Apparently Markus designed this beast.

Edited September 10, 2021 by Ngoc Nguyen

[jorgeopesi]

Move the video to the price thread because he mentions the price... I have to do it...