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25 minutes ago, bluedog1111 said:

Can we please stop the whining about the anniversary sets? Every morning when I check this forum I see at least 40+ new posts and when I read through them mainly the posts follow this pattern:

I am not whining. I never said I hate anniversary sets. I love Hogsmeade and I like bathroom set and all minifigures... I just dont like build design of Hogwarts buidings. It is my personal opinion and this forum is about sharing our opinions and thoughts.

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50 minutes ago, Textorix said:

I mean thats great for you. There are some people who are creative and they want to make their own dream Hogwarts castle. I am purist collector with light OCD so I need to have entire Hogwarts layout with consistent build style and as movie accurate as possible :D

Sounds like you are just like me! Have you seen my baseplate floor plans for the Quad and Astronomy Courtyard? 

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People have to learn how to distinct whining and criticising.

Just because most of us don't like anniversary sets as a whole, doesn't mean we cone here every day and whine of how miserable we are because of those sets.

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43 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

People have to learn how to distinct whining and criticising.

This 

45 minutes ago, Bugbot20082 said:

Sounds like you are just like me! Have you seen my baseplate floor plans for the Quad and Astronomy Courtyard? 

No I havent so feel free to share it :wink:

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2 minutes ago, Textorix said:

No I havent so feel free to share it :wink:

Thanks :) maybe you will find them ucefull, they are a simple approximation based on the existing modular buildings, using mostly only one plate for each module:
 

Lego Hogwarts Courtyard Floor-plan ConceptLego Hogwarts: The Quad Floorplan Concept

 

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29 minutes ago, Bugbot20082 said:

Thanks :) maybe you will find them ucefull, they are a simple approximation based on the existing modular buildings, using mostly only one plate for each module:
 

Lego Hogwarts Courtyard Floor-plan ConceptLego Hogwarts: The Quad Floorplan Concept

 

Oh very nice job man. So the red parts are those which I either have to create myself or wait for Lego to release as a set :D There is a chance for Bell Towers but the rest probably will need custom build.

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2 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

People have to learn how to distinct whining and criticising.

Just because most of us don't like anniversary sets as a whole, doesn't mean we cone here every day and whine of how miserable we are because of those sets.

The number of posts complaining about Hogwarts have decreased but they're still popping up. The only opinions of the June sets stated in the last 24 hours were "I just don't like the build design of Hogwarts buildings" and "we're getting a new line of much worse Hogwarts sets". They're both criticizing the sets but they're also both completely useless and I can understand how they could come off as whiny. Just saying that the new Hogwarts design is bad/not as good as the old one offers nothing of value. It's the level of criticism I would expect from  children in a YouTube comments section. What about the design is bad? What makes them worse than the older sets?

If people still feel the need to keep complaining about them a month and a half after the descriptions leaked and a month after the prelims leaked it wouldn't hurt if those criticisms went a bit beyond just saying that they're bad. It would also really be good if those complaints were things that haven't already been discussed to death. 

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2 minutes ago, MaxHeadroom said:

What about the design is bad? What makes them worse than the older sets?

Are the images still on Instagram or anywhere? It's hard to go into specifics about what you like/dislike - beyond initial reactions - when you can't look at the images any more. I'm finding myself running out of anything to say about the sets because I can remember only a very small amount of the details from those prelims.

We need minifigure leaks to save us from this.

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8 minutes ago, Alexandrina said:

I'm finding myself running out of anything to say about the sets because I can remember only a very small amount of the details from those prelims.

I could DM them to you if you want them.

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1 minute ago, Guyon2002 said:

Only just noticed but is this the first time we see a figure (in this case Nearly Headless Nick) holding it's own decapitated head?

Doesn't it happen also on Great Hall box (always with Nearly Headless Nick)? I don't remember well.

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4 minutes ago, BrickMatit said:

Doesn't it happen also on Great Hall box (always with Nearly Headless Nick)? I don't remember well.

Yeah you're right, I guess I just never noticed he was holding his head due to that unusual perspective :tongue:

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22 minutes ago, Guyon2002 said:

Only just noticed but is this the first time we see a figure (in this case Nearly Headless Nick) holding it's own decapitated head?

You are right! On the 2018 Great Hall box, Nick’s head just appears at an impossible angle on his neck thanks to the magic of photoshop. In the leaked image of the new Chamber of Secrets set, Nick is straight up holding his own decapitated head in the air! Pretty gruesome and maybe a good sign of things to come for this series... Dead unicorn anyone???

EDIT: Woops! Just took a look at the box and Nick is actually HOLDING his head on the 2018 set as well. How did I miss that???

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2 minutes ago, sebastian666 said:

Dead unicorn

Oh, well, I suppose that Lego doesn't have to put a dead unicorn on the box.

They could simply put a living unicorn in that scene and we would do the rest. :innocent2:

But, please, give us the unicorn! :snicker:

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2 minutes ago, BrickMatit said:

Oh, well, I suppose that Lego doesn't have to put a dead unicorn on the box.

They could simply put a living unicorn in that scene and we would do the rest. :innocent2:

But, please, give us the unicorn! :snicker:

Yes!!! That’s what I’ve been hoping for since the relaunch in 2018. The unicorn could just be running into the forest like it is on the cover of the original Scholastic book cover for Sorcerer’s Stone.

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5 minutes ago, Alexandrina said:

Are the images still on Instagram or anywhere? It's hard to go into specifics about what you like/dislike - beyond initial reactions - when you can't look at the images any more. I'm finding myself running out of anything to say about the sets because I can remember only a very small amount of the details from those prelims.

We need minifigure leaks to save us from this.

Here's my opinion based on Marketing and Design, of which I have some experience, of both the latest series and the anniversary and will contrast them with the modern versions. I will also include my reaction at first and my reaction now seeing them for the first time after a while. 

My Initial reaction 

I think for many, including myself, we were used to the 2018-2020 sets and how AMAZING they were. For me as an AFOL who has had a couple dark ages, I literally came back to Lego because I found these sets so fantastic. I never collected the older Lego sets, really, except for one or two, and didn't really like the look of the older castle sets. I was pretty frustrated seeing how much of a step back these sets took in terms of the look, detail, and style, were and didn't want to buy them initially. 

2018-2020 sets 

Design is ultra-modern, incorporating the latest techniques and styles. The modular aspect is a great appeal as both kids and adults can mix and match and make the castle their own in display. The design attempts to find lots of details of the movies and perhaps is one of the best attempts by Lego. The designs show that incredible level of detail absent in other lines. Overall the sets work well as a whole, minus a couple, partially because of that modular ability. The design finds a balance of playability for children and display ability for AFOLs.  

Marketing 

Marketing for 2018-2020 may be the best part of this, as it seems to appeal to all sexes in it's crossover appeal, as well as the adults with new children (or any AFOL) who first grew on Harry Potter. 

 

Anniversary Sets 

Design - Then and now, I find the sets a bit blocky, boxy, and overall not designed to the level of Lego in 2020. Attention to detail is lost for combining sets into one. Contrast this to the Star Wars Anniversary Sets that "modernized" old sets to the modern ascetics, or the Ninjago aspects that added the Golden Figures to both new and remade sets. The design is not awful, not by a long shot, but in contrast to the 2018-2020 sets, it does show a step back. Again, this is based solely on the preliminary leaks and could change, and my opinion may grow if the attention to detail is on the inside. 

The ability for stackable sets, while great in theory for displaying, may backfire if the sets look too much like tetris, and has some more limitations based on the 2018-2020 series. 

Examples of design that falls flat for me in the new leaked sets - Old-style garage piece in the top part of the bathroom set, only including one bathroom stall, the boxy nature of the set in comparison to the Room of Requirement set that it will be priced at. 

Also, having the Chamber of Secrets, Fluffy, etc, - sets fans have been loving - combining them in multiples means we won't get them probably ever in the 2018-2020 look. 

Marketing

Like that Cube Car from a few years ago, the anniversary sets appear to try to appeal to a very thin specific market and loses that balance of the modern sets. It markets for either brand new children of age (which can be a positive) but limits the nostalgia aspect to those who would like the older series from their own childhood, and loses that focus on general fans of HP. Having a design look to close to the old-style means it will look severely dated in comparison to 2018-2020, and fans of Lego who know HP only at a glance would more often than not think they are older sets.

From a Marketing standpoint, it also doesn't make sense to have an entire year's worth of sets look so different than what was before, without some kind of marketing push. Here is where Lego is dropping the ball on the marketing of this new design, and begs the question "why?". 

 

Overall look now and thoughts

Part of the leaks caused a Shock due largely to it looking for many as a literal step back in sets, after being spoiled by the fantastic design of the modern series. It also was a shock due to the potential TREND this could mean for us. Is this a one-off year, or is the 2018-2020 modular design done? This is the crux of the criticism, frustration, and even the "whining" about the new design. 

Personally, on their own, they look better now than they did when they first came out. They still do not meet the level of design of the modern sets, and definitely don't give me that Marie Kondo Spark of Joy. However, they seem enjoyable enough, the minifigure selection seems great and may be similar to the modern version. Those combined with new fluffy and Basilisk and I'm budgeting that I will buy the June wave. I'll waitto make my final decision when I see the actual sets shown to us.

Moreover, I see why people LIKE them, but for us who love the older sets, we were a bit shocked and severely disappointed we weren't getting more modular-era sets, and worried that they may never come back. 

 

Posted
7 minutes ago, sebastian666 said:

Yes!!! That’s what I’ve been hoping for since the relaunch in 2018. The unicorn could just be running into the forest like it is on the cover of the original Scholastic book cover for Sorcerer’s Stone.

I'd love to know which mad executive read Philosopher's Stone and thought "I know what one image represents this book best - that unicorn that was dead in the one scene!" 

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1 minute ago, Alexandrina said:

I'd love to know which mad executive read Philosopher's Stone and thought "I know what one image represents this book best - that unicorn that was dead in the one scene!" 

Here in Italy, first edition of PS book has a strange cover: Harry, with a mouse hat, playing chess. And another mouse near him.

And better not talk about translation... and not only cause it would be OT :wall:

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1 hour ago, Alexandrina said:

Are the images still on Instagram or anywhere? It's hard to go into specifics about what you like/dislike - beyond initial reactions - when you can't look at the images any more. I'm finding myself running out of anything to say about the sets because I can remember only a very small amount of the details from those prelims.

We need minifigure leaks to save us from this.

If people can't remember why they're complaining about the new sets then they shouldn't still be complaining about them.

People not saving the photos would explain why the few things that are discussed here are so general. 90% of the discussion has just been posts saying that the new sets are not the same as the 2018-2020 sets/like the 2001 sets/surprising/boxy/have green roofs which were all things we knew from the leaked description and even discussed at the time. 
 

It's just a bit depressing that any time the sets are mentioned it's just to randomly say they're bad with little reasoning, wonder if we're getting the old style back next year, or repeat the same few complaints we had before we even saw the preliminaries. Any time I have to read yet another essay about how the sets are blocky and not like the 2018-2020 sets I can't help but wonder how much more interesting this thread could be if we could just get past those surface complaints. Why not talk about the small spire which looks pasted onto the side of the side of the staircase tower or the brown owl platform pasted on the other side? The tiles in the middle of the larger spire which might mean it's removable like the 2001 version? The 2x6 plate on the great hall that isn't at the same angle as the rest of the roof? The way the rocks fade down on the staircase tower? How many tables will fit in the Great Hall? I could keep going but I'll leave it there. 

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34 minutes ago, MaxHeadroom said:

If people can't remember why they're complaining about the new sets then they shouldn't still be complaining about them.

People not saving the photos would explain why the few things that are discussed here are so general. 90% of the discussion has just been posts saying that the new sets are not the same as the 2018-2020 sets/like the 2001 sets/surprising/boxy/have green roofs which were all things we knew from the leaked description and even discussed at the time. 
 

It's just a bit depressing that any time the sets are mentioned it's just to randomly say they're bad with little reasoning, wonder if we're getting the old style back next year, or repeat the same few complaints we had before we even saw the preliminaries. Any time I have to read yet another essay about how the sets are blocky and not like the 2018-2020 sets I can't help but wonder how much more interesting this thread could be if we could just get past those surface complaints. Why not talk about the small spire which looks pasted onto the side of the side of the staircase tower or the brown owl platform pasted on the other side? The tiles in the middle of the larger spire which might mean it's removable like the 2001 version? The 2x6 plate on the great hall that isn't at the same angle as the rest of the roof? The way the rocks fade down on the staircase tower? How many tables will fit in the Great Hall? I could keep going but I'll leave it there. 

 

Since it appears to be semi-directed towards me, I must remind you that this page is called - "harry potter 2021 rumors discussion".  Feelings about those said rumors and discussion thereof constitute this and fall under the site's rules.  Whining about people or their actions ON the forum, stating their thoughts or opinions, does not. It's sad this topic has become very toxic and people can't express their opinion. Can we get back to talking about the rumors? 

 

1 hour ago, BrickMatit said:

Here in Italy, first edition of PS book has a strange cover: Harry, with a mouse hat, playing chess. And another mouse near him.

And better not talk about translation... and not only cause it would be OT :wall:

Just looked it up and is an odd cover! Would make an excellent Moments set :grin: What did they translate Voldemort into in the Italian version? 

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Discussion is one thing but some of you keep repeating day after day the same things over & over again.  It's like a broken record.  Several of us have respectfully asked to please just move on from the same thing day after day.  I know it's hard with no new leaks or info about the upcoming sets but I'm getting to the point where I'm really sick of reading this broken record thread.  Harassing people for more info & repeating the same opinions every day is getting us nowhere.

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