lego_guyon02 Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 As someone who prefers the later movies/books over the earlier ones and is already getting tired of PS/CoS sets I totally understand why it's incredibly disappointing that no DH sets are seemingly on the horizon. It also doesn't help that the reason Marcos has given us is straight up bs as that same logic would apply to sets like Rise of Voldemort or even the Beauxbatons Carriage. But that said I don't think this major shift of the theme is entirely bad. Sure the Hogwarts builds are all bloody awfull, there's a fair amount of sets that don't interest me whatsoever and in the end there's only like 1 or 2 sets I actually like but there's still a lot of things to love. We've gotten a fair amount of new and interesting figures, new animals, new accessories, a lot of really cool new stickers and the Hogsmeade set is just bloody fantastic in it's entirety. I'll have to wait a little longer for it but eventually I'll just get the stuff I do like off Bricklink, which means I end up having quite a bit of leftover budget to spend elsewhere
Seaber Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, lego_guyon02 said: The following sets are retiring at the end of the year according to Promobricks: - Hogwarts Whomping Willow - The Knight Bus - The Room of Requirement - Umbridge's Encounter - Moments: Herbology - Moments: Charms So does that mean the Great Hall, Clock Tower, Astronomy Tower, Hogwarts Express, Hagrid's Hut, Privet Drive and the Burrow are all sticking around for another six months/a year at least? I know the Great Hall and Hagrid's Hut had previously been listed as retiring at the end of the year by Brick Fanatics, and possibly others. If so, there aren't a great amount of classic scenes, vehicles or locations not on the shelves from the first six films, Quidditch being an obvious omission as we didn't get the Quidditch character pack we were expecting. MoM, Durmstrang Ship, Second Task, Shrieking Shack and more DA rumours will start in earnest More FB sets would seem likely in 2022, and perhaps we'll get some of the gaps in the older films filled like Troll in the Dungeon and the rest of the PS Challenges for the smaller sets, especially if four of the £80-130 range sets are all still big Hogwarts sections. Edited June 22, 2021 by Seaber
Darth Shadowthrone Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 Personally I had quite a big realisation recently that after the year there will probably be no more Hogwarts sets that I want to buy. My Hogwarts currently takes up half my desk without the 2021 sets so it will take up even more space and once I have the Chamber of Secrets I don’t think there’s any other parts of Hogwarts I really need. I’m far from a completionist but this Harry Potter resurgence brought me out from a Dark Age I had begun at university. The exact same thing happened with Star Wars for me - I realised that there were no more star fighters I really NEEDED to get. But I still enjoy seeing more Star Wars sets come out and I’m sure I’ll feel the same way when there’s years more of Harry Potter I’m happy to not get. And even with that being said I will definitely get the inevitable Gringotts set
Micmac Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 14 hours ago, MaxHeadroom said: The last few weeks my opinion of the Harry Potter line has really gone downhill. I feel you pain. The only one i have on display is. Hogsmeade. The rest have been butchered for parts, such a waste really. 12 hours ago, Metanoios said: If you feel the need to sell $1500 worth of a Lego Harry Potter collection just because one wave or two are not what you expected or really wanted and the previous sets loose this much value over night to you, I suggest that maybe you should reevaluate your spending habits in the first place. I think he is just disappointed with the theme this year, no reevaluation of his life choices required. He's allowed to be upset if he want to be. 2 hours ago, Clone OPatra said: I get the frustration that LEGO restarted this whole line in 2018 by deliberately doing two movies/books per year, so how or why could they have planned to stop before the final two movies/one book? Except - by 2020 they'd already started mixing it around with a set from CoS, and the Hedwig set containing a figure from Philosopher's Stone. So it's still valid to ask and feel like, why didn't they plan to at least cover everything from the beginning through to the end? But looking at the actual sets produced, they'd already ditched the pure "two instalments per year" format by the third year. It's so annoying that we had the anniversary this year, I wonder if it was next year would they have rebooted the wave so early. Its very hard to predict what lego will do normally but it seemed like we had worked out where the Harry potter line was going with the two book per year thing. Its very frustrating when it's pulled from under you. 1 hour ago, lego_guyon02 said: But that said I don't think this major shift of the theme is entirely bad. Sure the Hogwarts builds are all bloody awfull, there's a fair amount of sets that don't interest me whatsoever and in the end there's only like 1 or 2 sets I actually like but there's still a lot of things to love. We've gotten a fair amount of new and interesting figures, new animals, new accessories, a lot of really cool new stickers and the Hogsmeade set is just bloody fantastic in it's entirety. I'll have to wait a little longer for it but eventually I'll just get the stuff I do like off Bricklink, which means I end up having quite a bit of leftover budget to spend elsewhere I know what you mean but to say its not entirely bad when you hate most of the sets and they don't interest you is funny. My fear is that all I will want from future sets are prints, new figures and new parts. If I have to BrickLink parts from the new harry potter set next year then the theme is dying a death.
BrickBob Studpants Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 I understand the frustration, but retroactively disliking something never has made much sense to me (like starting to dislike a film you’ve previously liked just because its sequel wasn’t up to par) Sure, it sounds like the 2018-2020 line won’t ever be “completed”, but as long as we get at least one set for each DH instalment plus a couple of slots in the 3rd CMF series (if there is one), I’m satisfied In retrospect, expecting a full DH wave this year may have been a bit silly anyway. OotP and HBP only got two sets each, so I’m not sure why I anticipated a wave of 5-6 sets dedicated to DH in the first place
lego_guyon02 Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Micmac said: I know what you mean but to say its not entirely bad when you hate most of the sets and they don't interest you is funny. My fear is that all I will want from future sets are prints, new figures and new parts. If I have to BrickLink parts from the new harry potter set next year then the theme is dying a death. Yeah I didn't phrase that too well What I'm trying to say is that while none of the builds from this years sets, Hogsmeade being the only exception, are interesting to me as I either have no use for them (Harry & Hermione, Chess, Fawkes, D2C) or they just suck (the Hogwarts sets) they're not the only things that make up these sets. Instead of keeping my focus on the uninteresting/terrible builds for months on end I'd much rather just focus on the good stuff we're getting like the figures, new creatures, prints and stickers which I can all eventually get from BL and use to upgrade my 2018-2020 castle. It sucks that it's looking like future of this theme might be at Bricklink for me but on the other hand it's also kind of a good thing as it allows me to focus on my other 2 favorite themes (Jurassic and Marvel), which are both getting a ton of sets next year. I already know my main focus for 2022 will lie with the Jurassic World: Dominion sets so saving a lot of money on Potter this year, while infuriating, also felt surprisingly relieving.
Seaber Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Sure, it sounds like the 2018-2020 line won’t ever be “completed”, but as long as we get at least one set for each DH instalment plus a couple of slots in the 3rd CMF series (if there is one), I’m satisfied In retrospect, expecting a full DH wave this year may have been a bit silly anyway. OotP and HBP only got two sets each, so I’m not sure why I anticipated a wave of 5-6 sets dedicated to DH in the first place One of the saving graces for the DH films is that so many locations are revisited. Potential future sets based on The Ministry of Magic or Grimmauld Place could only feature minifigs from OotP, but with polyjuice Harry/Ron/Hermione from the ministry with a few accessories and perhaps Mundungus Fletcher or Yaxley in a future CMS, the OotP sets can quickly become more DH based. A DH Gringotts should also appeal to fans of the first film too.
MaxHeadroom Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 22 hours ago, Metanoios said: If you feel the need to sell $1500 worth of a Lego Harry Potter collection just because one wave or two are not what you expected or really wanted and the previous sets loose this much value over night to you, I suggest that maybe you should reevaluate your spending habits in the first place. It's not "one or two are not what you expected or really wanted", where did I say that in my post? I actually said the exact opposite: 23 hours ago, MaxHeadroom said: I wasn't expecting a perfect collector focused line. I don't mind getting an extra flying car or an extra potions classroom. Similarly I didn't mind the idea of a DH heavy wave being pushed back a year and the new Hogwarts system being introduced now and I didn't mind getting an extra great hall. I have no issues with getting a few remakes and I have no issue with the castle being rebooted now before the original castle was more complete, if it was a genuine change of plan. I also have no issues with us waiting a bit longer to get DH sets. Read through this forum and you'll see that while I've had some small issues with some of the sets I have been one of the biggest defenders of LEGO not releasing DH sets in 2021 and LEGO rebooting the castle system. What I do have an issue with is DH sets not getting released in the near future and the castle ending after 2020 being the plan the entire time. 22 hours ago, Metanoios said: Most action or big bang themes (with the exception of Ninjago) have never lasted more than 3 years Most action themes also told a complete story if they set out to tell one and weren't cancelled. LEGO Atlantis didn't completely reboot itself and start from the beginning before they made a set of Atlantis (7985). If the reboot was always going to end after 3 years like we're now being told, the end of the story should've been part of the plan. 22 hours ago, Metanoios said: 23 hours ago, MaxHeadroom said: Can you please quote the exact words of Marcos or any of the other designers, where they are saying, what the sets for next year will be (also a link to the interview would be appreciated If I remember right it was said in a dm that was discussed here a week or two ago. 19 hours ago, Vindicare said: 23 hours ago, MaxHeadroom said: Sounds rough & a touch over dramatic. Just because some things weren’t or possibly aren’t going to be made doesn’t emanates reboot is garbage. Yes I am taking this line of toys seriously. This is the 358th page of an adult-only forum about it. People taking the hobby somewhat seriously really shouldn't be a surprise at this point. I'm fine with "some things" not being made, I don't care that the troll, Fluffy, Drurmstrang ship, hogsmeade, ect. weren't part of the (apparently finished) 2018 sweeties-spanning reboot of the line. I'm not fine with the ending of the series being forgotten though. The same way I'd be annoyed if I was building a nice car over the course of three years but could never get the engine. It's still a nice car but there's something essential missing. 11 hours ago, Clone OPatra said: I get the frustration that LEGO restarted this whole line in 2018 by deliberately doing two movies/books per year, so how or why could they have planned to stop before the final two movies/one book? Except - by 2020 they'd already started mixing it around with a set from CoS, and the Hedwig set containing a figure from Philosopher's Stone. Go back further. 2019 had an advent calendar from the first movie and BYOA book from the first movie. 2018 had a set from POA and a number of figures in the minifigure line and bricktober pack from films after COS. Despite this LEGO still generally focused on 2 movies per year moving through the series without skipping any. Once again (since I'm sure someone will have missed the many other times I've said it) I'm fine with LEGO skipping over DH for a year but I'm not fine with the 2018 iteration of the theme being considered finished without the last films being covered (that's why I was fine with the 2021 sets before now). I'm not sure if I made it clear enough in my original post but I have no problem with the 2021 sets. Going back to the earlier films and focusing on large (compared to the previous version of Hogwarts) interior sections of the castle is exactly how I wanted the line to be rebooted. I just don't like that the previous iteration of the line isn't going to be completed (if we can trust Marcos and I see no reason not to). 8 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: I understand the frustration, but retroactively disliking something never has made much sense to me (like starting to dislike a film you’ve previously liked just because its sequel wasn’t up to par) Deathly hallows sets aren't a sequel to the series spanning 2018 line, they should've been part of the line. It's not a bad sequel, it's a nonexistent final act. If the last half hour of a movie doesn't exist then that should affect your judgement of the film as a whole. The sequel in this case would be the 2021 reboot of the line which hasn't affected my thoughts of the 2018 reboot.
joeee Posted June 23, 2021 Posted June 23, 2021 In the interview, Marcos explained the reboot is for kids who were toddlers a few years ago and now can get into HP at the age of 6.
BrickBob Studpants Posted June 23, 2021 Posted June 23, 2021 Tandnbricks and @Brick Clicker are not so subtly hinting at more anniversary figures. Probably too early for D2C leaks, so maybe the polybag is about to be revealed / leaked?
Vindicare Posted June 23, 2021 Posted June 23, 2021 On 6/22/2021 at 9:59 AM, MaxHeadroom said: Yes I am taking this line of toys seriously. This is the 358th page of an adult-only forum about it. People taking the hobby somewhat seriously really shouldn't be a surprise at this point. I'm fine with "some things" not being made, I don't care that the troll, Fluffy, Drurmstrang ship, hogsmeade, ect. weren't part of the (apparently finished) 2018 sweeties-spanning reboot of the line. I'm not fine with the ending of the series being forgotten though. The same way I'd be annoyed if I was building a nice car over the course of three years but could never get the engine. It's still a nice car but there's something essential missing. We all take this seriously, that’s why we’re here. There’s also a lot I wish we would’ve gotten but didn’t. None of that has any bearing on what we did get though. Not getting DH sets doesn’t affect what came before it. Yeah it sucks not to get stuff that has largely been neglected in years past, I can agree to that.
krimimimi Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 On 6/22/2021 at 9:03 AM, Seaber said: So does that mean the Great Hall, Clock Tower, Astronomy Tower, Hogwarts Express, Hagrid's Hut, Privet Drive and the Burrow are all sticking around for another six months/a year at least? I know the Great Hall and Hagrid's Hut had previously been listed as retiring at the end of the year by Brick Fanatics, and possibly others. Promobricks has reported the Great Hall as retiring this summer, not end of the year like the ones @lego_guyon02 listed. (That was new info added to the old.) The 2018 Great Hall is already gone from the S@H in Germany and the UK. ("Sold out" in May, as opposed to "temporarily unavailable".) It's safe to assume the US will follow suit in the foreseeable future. Sometimes they extend the run on one continent but not the others, however, and it had originally been expected to retire at the end of last year but was continued due to demand (caused in part by availability issues for many of the sets last year). As long as the sets are sold via retailers, we usually get some warning when they go EOL. It's S@H exclusive sets like DA and the AP we'll need to worry about.
Textorix Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 Hi guys, its been a while since I was here, can anybody tell me in short what new do we know about future HP sets? I heard something about Shrieking Shack but idk where did it came from. Also what happened to hopes for DH sets for next year?
Salix Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 48 minutes ago, Textorix said: Hi guys, its been a while since I was here, can anybody tell me in short what new do we know about future HP sets? I heard something about Shrieking Shack but idk where did it came from. Also what happened to hopes for DH sets for next year? Afaik we're waiting on the polybag and the D2C. Haven't heared anything about the Shrieking Shack besides people who wish it would become a set. As for DH sets, Marcos Bessa said in an interview that it is too dark / doesn't have enough scenes or something that can be translated to a LEGO set or something like that? I haven't seen the interview myself, this is what I remember from being mentioned earlier.
Textorix Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) DH being too dark is just really weak excuse to not make sets. Rise of Voldemort is maybe the darkest scene in the franchise yet they made a set out of it (yes they didnt include Cedric but they were sneaky and put him into cmf so people can recrate this kid friendly scene). Also if kids saw movies 1-6 they definetely saw 7 and 8 too so what is the point of pretending that these movies are too dark for them and therefore they cant made sets based on those movies. How dark would be if they made Gringotts with dragon? How dark would be small set of tent from DH 1? And I could continue... Lego has made sets like duel on Mustafal which is one of the most violent scenes in SW so what the deal? Only thing which is too dark in DH is music and colour tone lol :D Edited June 24, 2021 by Textorix
Clone OPatra Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 He didn't simplistically say "too dark to make sets". This was from Marcos' recent Instagram story AMA, which he has saved on his profile. Here is the actual question and response from him. Question: What does Lego have against Deathly Hallows :( Answer: Absolutely nothing 🤔 But as the story progresses, the movies get darker and more up in age, and we tend to find more appealing and engaging moments in the earlier movies that lend themselves to great toys... But who knows 🙃
(Insert Name Here) Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 Just thought I'd mention to anyone from the UK, currently on Amazon the Hedwig set is reduced from £34.99 to £25.99, but of a bargain.
Roebuck Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 I have the parts and plan to upgrade the basilisk, but have not the set yet with head and tail, however somebody else do: Lego like to use only a few moulded parts for the big creatures in HP, but I think this looks better and more like the one in the movie. To be fair it is only normal bricks used here also except the head The one in the set looks good, but closer to the one in the old COS set than the movie I think
Vindicare Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Roebuck said: I have the parts and plan to upgrade the basilisk, but have not the set yet with head and tail, however somebody else do: Lego like to use only a few moulded parts for the big creatures in HP, but I think this looks better and more like the one in the movie. To be fair it is only normal bricks used here also except the head The one in the set looks good, but closer to the one in the old COS set than the movie I think This is so good! Wish I would’ve saw this before I made a B&P order a few days ago...next time. That middle section is really odd on the set one.
???theriddler??? Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 Do you guys think the still unknown Harry Potter set will be revealed at Lego Con this saturday?
Metanoios Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Roebuck said: I have the parts and plan to upgrade the basilisk, but have not the set yet with head and tail, however somebody else do: Lego like to use only a few moulded parts for the big creatures in HP, but I think this looks better and more like the one in the movie. To be fair it is only normal bricks used here also except the head The one in the set looks good, but closer to the one in the old COS set than the movie I think That modification is good, but the way pricyplasticproduct did it, has one major disadvantage: It has only a very limited range of articulation and degrees of freedom (technic axles can only be rotated 90 degrees). There is a way to do it which offers much more organic and free articulation and more posable axes. I will upload pics on the weekend once I photographed it. If you substitute the 4L technic axle in the neck build (which he uses in this pic from the original version as well) with a 4L bar, it adds 2 new unlimited points of rotation. I duplicated that assembly along the body and in the tail you can use a 3L bar to add another rotation point. It also makes the coils of the basilisk a bit wider and more stable while posing. The only disadvantage is that one piece has to be dark tan in that assembly because it currently does not come in olive green yet. Edited June 24, 2021 by Metanoios
Micmac Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Metanoios said: That modification is good, but the way pricyplasticproduct did it, has one major disadvantage: It has only a very limited range of articulation and degrees of freedom (technic axles can only be rotated 90 degrees). There is a way to do it which offers much more organic and free articulation and more posable axes. I will upload pics on the weekend once I photographed it. If you substitute the 4L technic axle in the neck build (which he uses in this pic from the original version as well) with a 4L bar, it adds 2 new unlimited points of rotation. I duplicated that assembly along the body and in the tail you can use a 3L bar to add another rotation point. It also makes the coils of the basilisk a bit wider and more stable while posing. The only disadvantage is that one piece has to be dark tan in that assembly because it currently does not come in olive green yet. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with. I did this a few weeks ago and you can just use two body parts instead of pricyplasticproduct who uses 8 to save money. He stands up but all the moveable sections are gone. Still better than the fat body though.
mirkwoodspiders Posted June 25, 2021 Posted June 25, 2021 5 hours ago, ???theriddler??? said: Do you guys think the still unknown Harry Potter set will be revealed at Lego Con this saturday? Unlikely. It feels too early for it if the release really will be fall 2021 as rumored, and if they had planned on a reveal, I feel like they would have advertised it like they did the one for Star Wars. Also, if they did two big reveals, it might reduce the hype for both. That said, they could definitely surprise us, and I'd be pleasantly surprised if they revealed a big D2C for both Star Wars and HP. We'll see!
Roebuck Posted June 25, 2021 Posted June 25, 2021 10 hours ago, Metanoios said: That modification is good, but the way pricyplasticproduct did it, has one major disadvantage: It has only a very limited range of articulation and degrees of freedom (technic axles can only be rotated 90 degrees). There is a way to do it which offers much more organic and free articulation and more posable axes. I will upload pics on the weekend once I photographed it. If you substitute the 4L technic axle in the neck build (which he uses in this pic from the original version as well) with a 4L bar, it adds 2 new unlimited points of rotation. I duplicated that assembly along the body and in the tail you can use a 3L bar to add another rotation point. It also makes the coils of the basilisk a bit wider and more stable while posing. The only disadvantage is that one piece has to be dark tan in that assembly because it currently does not come in olive green yet. Looking forward to see your take on it
Shiene Posted June 25, 2021 Posted June 25, 2021 In case someone from Belgium or The Netherlands is interested, the Hogsmeade set is reduced to 68euro right now in Dreamland and Amazon.nl -so I have finally bought mine! I will pick it up tomorrow; looking forward to my first set of the 2021 series.
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