Harry Potter 2021 - Rumors & Discussion

[lego_guyon02]

15 minutes ago, Lego-Freak said:

We don't know if there's going to be a third series to begin with. So far, none of the licensed series have made it past series 2. And if the theme's quality really starts to decline like it seems to do, they may just as well not bother with a third one 

Comments made by @Falconfan1414 and me are/were more aimed at what the sets are in comparison to the speculation and predictions being thrown around than the actual quality of the sets.

14 minutes ago, Darth Shadowthrone said:

Could any of our trusted leakers divulge what kind of mix of grey and tan colours are going on in these sets please? 

DBG for the rocks and Hogwarts itself is basically the same as the other sets from the reboot, just with green roofs instead of grey ones. 

Edited February 16, 2021 by Guyon2002

[deskp]

Just now, Guyon2002 said:

Comments made by @Falconfan1414 and me are/were more aimed at what the sets are in comparison to the speculation and predictions being thrown around than the actual quality of the sets.

Thats some comfort!

[Darth Shadowthrone]

2 minutes ago, Guyon2002 said:

DBG for the rocks and Hogwarts itself is basically the same as the other sets from the reboot, just with green roofs instead of grey ones. 

Ok thanks, it's cool to hear that the rocks are dark grey this time around instead of the big dark tan BURPS from the UCS Hogwarts (I was thinking that dark grey would be the predominant colour to fit with the Chamber anyway).

And I can't imagine the bathroom or Forbidden Corridor with rocks when the buildings are so much smaller and would be unrecognisable with the typical Hogwarts architecture so I am very much looking forward to see how those two sets (or the connected building they make with one on top of the other) fit next to the Great Hall! 

[BrickBob Studpants]

Ok, I ammend my prediction a bit: they‘ve skipped DH and start over again with PS/CoS, but no remakes of post-2018 stuff  Some people would love that, but the ones who wanted DH sets definitely would not. 

[RODDY]

36 minutes ago, Lego-Freak said:

Yes. But "you'd be surprised at how bad they can be" should do the trick 

My money is still on them skipping DH and starting with PS/CoS again with pointless remakes of post-2018 sets. The ones that'll love them will probably be the people that missed them before  Or maybe they'll include one new-ish minifig or creature in each set just to make us buy them all again

Yeah I think the August wave will be PS/CoS based, I don’t think it’s going to be outrageously bad like a UCS Dobby Socks, but boring bad. The dead ringer being a Golden Voldemort without Golden Dumbledore, which I’d imagine is in the D2C. Also can see gold figs for both Snape and Hagrid’s. I’m still holding out hope for that $120 since the GH is already confirmed being remade, there’s nothing else that can be remade at the price point from the first two films. The D2C doesn’t seem like Gringott’s, so I’m definitely not picking it up.

25 minutes ago, Brickroll said:

Okay, so what would be your ideas for a reasonable list? I’m not saying something to the effect of five different versions of Dobby’s sock, but also not Grimmauld Place, DA, and the Bell Towers together. Here is mine:

20$: remake of the Horntail

figures: Harry

30$: Another Hogwarts moment set, probably DADA with Lupin or Quirrel

Figures: Oliver Wood and Harry if it’s Quirrel, Harry and Draco if it’s Lupin

50$: Niffler statue

Figures: Newt and a niffler

60$: The second task, no Durmstrang ship

Figures: Harry, Krum, Cedric, Ron, and Hermionie—maybe Cho 

120$: Some Hogwarts expansion, probably the bell towers

Figures: knight statue, McGonagal, Harry, Death Eater, Flitwick, Voldemort, Ron, Hermionie, and Narcissa

250$: I really can’t see this as anything but Da, but I suppose a D2C Burrow (it’s my second guess)

Molly, Arthur, Ron, Ginny, the twins, Harry, Hermionie, Bill, Fleur, and Xenophilius

 

My guess:

$30: Dueling Club: Harry, Snape, Dueling Club Lockhart, Draco. Golden Snape. Pairs with GH

$40: Aragog’s Lair remake: Comes with Ford Anglia and Aragog with tree builds. Harry Ron Fang Golden Hagrid

$60; Hogwarts Expansion: Room of the Winged Keys, Chessboard, Mirror of Erised. Harry, Ron, Hermione, Quirrell. Golden McGongal  

$120: Dumstrang Ship/Second Task: I really can’t see this being anything else, the set is definitely in the pipeline from Gabriella’s sleeping expression to the DP photographer. Harry, Shark Krum, 2x Merpeople, Hermione, Gabriella, Fleur, Igor, Choo and Rita Skeeter

[Metanoios]

13 minutes ago, Guyon2002 said:

@Falconfan1414

 

DBG for the rocks and Hogwarts itself is basically the same as the other sets from the reboot, just with green roofs instead of grey ones. 

Maybe that is the design reason why they went with sand green roofs again. If the base and the rocks are dark grey, the roof with the same colour would look weird and monotonous

Edited February 16, 2021 by Metanoios91

[Darth Shadowthrone]

The biggest thing I want now that we're going to get Fluffy and the Basilisk/Chamber of Secrets is a Gringotts in scale with the other Diagon Alley buildings (as in even bigger than the already monumental WWW!). And to be honest with Gringotts I don't mind if it's Philosopher's Stone or Deathly Hallows. The PS stone would be easier to fit in the building as soon from the outside and would also explain why there is a PS Griphook in the Advent Calendar - they've reused a lot of figures before as it is.

This could be exactly the kind of thing we're being warned about: maybe it's a monkeys paw situation and we roughly get what we've been asking for but not EXACTLY as we asked for it: a non-Deathly Hallows Gringotts, / Chamber of Secrets but thrown in with the Great Hall, / Durmstrang ship but it actually only has two non-exclusive minifigures, / Grimmauld Place but it's a microscale GWP . 

I know the biggest complaint with a PS Gringotts would be the lack of an Ironbelly dragon and Deathly Hallows goblins (or at least that's what my complaints would be!!) but those elements could always be included in an interior playset later on (a smaller set with a dragon and an interior build stinks of a store-exclusive). 

2 minutes ago, Metanoios91 said:

Maybe that is the design reason why they went with sand green roofs again. If the base and the rocks are dark grey, the roof with the same colour would look weird and monotonous

That would make sense, I suppose in a way they were killing two birds with one stone! (keeping the colour choices varied AND tying the sets back to the original colour scheme) 

[Alexandrina]

16 minutes ago, Guyon2002 said:

Comments made by @Falconfan1414 and me are/were more aimed at what the sets are in comparison to the speculation and predictions being thrown around than the actual quality of the sets.

I figured as much. No idea why people immediately defaulted to "the sets are terrible, Lego have forsaken Harry Potter" as an extreme.

[BrickBob Studpants]

Maybe DH is too dark for TLG after all  Makes no sense at all, but if the August wave truly consists of PS/CoS sets they obviously have no investment in ones based on DH  Shame, but we‘re talking about toys here after all. Kinda sad that all we have to represent DH in LEGO form are two 2011 sets, a CMF figure, and a sticker on a tombstone 

Edited February 16, 2021 by Lego-Freak

[Alexandrina]

3 minutes ago, Lego-Freak said:

Kinda sad that all we have to represent DH in LEGO form are two 2011 sets, a CMF figure, and a sticker on a tombstone

If you take any of the Hogwarts modulars and drop them from a small height, some bits will probably fall off (but not from too great a height, or the model will be completely kaput). If you leave the fallen-off bits loose on the model as rubble, you have a Battle of Hogwarts playset! 

[RODDY]

12 minutes ago, Darth Shadowthrone said:

The biggest thing I want now that we're going to get Fluffy and the Basilisk/Chamber of Secrets is a Gringotts in scale with the other Diagon Alley buildings (as in even bigger than the already monumental WWW!). And to be honest with Gringotts I don't mind if it's Philosopher's Stone or Deathly Hallows. The PS stone would be easier to fit in the building as soon from the outside and would also explain why there is a PS Griphook in the Advent Calendar - they've reused a lot of figures before as it is.

This could be exactly the kind of thing we're being warned about: maybe it's a monkeys paw situation and we roughly get what we've been asking for but not EXACTLY as we asked for it: a non-Deathly Hallows Gringotts, / Chamber of Secrets but thrown in with the Great Hall, / Durmstrang ship but it actually only has two non-exclusive minifigures, / Grimmauld Place but it's a microscale GWP . 

I know the biggest complaint with a PS Gringotts would be the lack of an Ironbelly dragon and Deathly Hallows goblins (or at least that's what my complaints would be!!) but those elements could always be included in an interior playset later on (a smaller set with a dragon and an interior build stinks of a store-exclusive). 

That would make sense, I suppose in a way they were killing two birds with one stone! (keeping the colour choices varied AND tying the sets back to the original colour scheme) 

I think the only way Gringott’s is disappointing is if it’s a Temple of Doom type playlet with the tracks. There’s no point of including a mine cart in the AC  without the rail. I think that maybe Gringott’s monkey paw.

Edited February 16, 2021 by RODDY

[Prometheus87]

1 hour ago, Metanoios91 said:

Wowowow if you think Assault on Hoth was overall pretty good, then what does "lower your expectations" really mean? I can go lower than Cursed Child sets but I really don't want to. I was only joking before but now I am afraid

Maybe this is what jumped to my mind immediately reading his comment, but ff I read between the lines, and take the leakers silence as indication, i think it's being indirectly inferred (sort of Socratic method) that indeed the 250 set IS a playable set and will disappoint the fans that want a display, want Gringotts, etc. 

Makes me wonder if it's a Battle of Hogwarts (D2C) playset similar fashion to Assault on Hoth. Perhaps some slight façade of the castle in anniversary colors, and mostly deal with the courtyard, the bridge, and the grassy area to "recreate" the epic battle. Something that may include a lot of figures, and  possibly including Giants and other beasts on the Voldemort side, and castle statues and lots of repeated characters on Potter-side.  It would technically be DH but, of course, there's a strong darkness to the set if they include certain characters that we know pass in the movie. 

I'd certainly buy it but I can see THAT being a set people can LOVE or HATE. 

56 minutes ago, Metanoios91 said:

Ok I'm lowering my expectations further. The next wave will include a 250$ D2C cloak of invisibilty. Another Ford Anglia (but this time with a working invisibility booster). Also someone in Billund apparently figured out how to cast Repello-Muggletum on all the bricks. Or in other words, Lego went too far with their reduce-single-use-plastic-campaign and will just send out empty cardboard boxes starting this august

What if it's a Technic or Creator Ford Anglia? Crossover sets! 

[RODDY]

7 minutes ago, Prometheus87 said:

Maybe this is what jumped to my mind immediately reading his comment, but ff I read between the lines, and take the leakers silence as indication, i think it's being indirectly inferred (sort of Socratic method) that indeed the 250 set IS a playable set and will disappoint the fans that want a display, want Gringotts, etc. 

Makes me wonder if it's a Battle of Hogwarts (D2C) playset similar fashion to Assault on Hoth. Perhaps some slight façade of the castle in anniversary colors, and mostly deal with the courtyard, the bridge, and the grassy area to "recreate" the epic battle. Something that may include a lot of figures, and  possibly including Giants and other beasts on the Voldemort side, and castle statues and lots of repeated characters on Potter-side.  It would technically be DH but, of course, there's a strong darkness to the set if they include certain characters that we know pass in the movie. 

I'd certainly buy it but I can see THAT being a set people can LOVE or HATE. 

That’s actually a real good idea and I think highly possible, it sounds like a great set idea, but I couldn’t justify buying it. Having three/four iterations of Hogwarts displays is absolutely overkill and I know most people would probably pass on this one. Modular Hogwarts, Microscale Hogwarts, Anniversary Hogwarts, and DH Hogwarts would be crazy

[dvt]

For all this chatter, you'd think something actually got announced/leaked.  Instead, reality of online community saying "Just because you have a wish list and there was a slight pattern for the last two years, the sets might not follow directly to a two set pattern."

People have created wishlists which 99.9% of the time (might as well say 100%) it is just setting up disappointment. 
Be grateful that we're getting Harry Potter sets.  4 years ago, HP fans would of been ecstatic to hear "you're getting 2 CMFs and 3 yrs worth of sets" (anything past what has been announced is hopeful, especially state of Covid in the world).

We've "been given"(hahah given meaning we pay $1000s, but semantics)  lovingly crafted sets with designers who care about the product being delivered. Yes, life can always be better, but I really don't understand some of the childish behaviors found on the internet sometimes.

[Seaber]

27 minutes ago, Lego-Freak said:

if the August wave truly consists of PS/CoS sets  

I must have missed this, is this 100% right? 

[chris6507]

2 hours ago, Lego-Freak said:

What confuses me is that people will either "love or hate" this wave. I can clearly see the latter, but who in their right mind would love any of the deliberately stupid stuff we've been compiling over the last week  Then again, @Guyon2002 didn't specify which people would love it, maybe it's none of us but rather some psychopaths out there 

It makes me think of the D2C Jurassic Park set. That was definitely a love or hate situation. So maybe it's a huge Dragon with a piddly amount of minifigures?

[Modal]

11 minutes ago, chris6507 said:

It makes me think of the D2C Jurassic Park set. That was definitely a love or hate situation. So maybe it's a huge Dragon with a piddly amount of minifigures?

Oh wow that would actually be kind of poetic. Gringotts but it’s 80% Dragon, 20% Gringotts. That would definitely be a love/hate set. 

[Darth Shadowthrone]

11 minutes ago, chris6507 said:

It makes me think of the D2C Jurassic Park set. That was definitely a love or hate situation. So maybe it's a huge Dragon with a piddly amount of minifigures?

A huge Horntail or Ironbelly would be SICK tho. There’d be no need for a sidebuild like the Jurassic gate so I could see a scaled-up dragon still being under 1000 pieces like the buildable Star Wars characters. The minifigure selection would probably be very uninspired tho 

1 minute ago, Modal said:

Oh wow that would actually be kind of poetic. Gringotts but it’s 80% Dragon, 20% Gringotts. That would definitely be a love/hate set. 

Oh no... the Ironbelly but with just the Gringotts roof as a base 

[karrit]

I can see the $250 set being a micro-scale version of Diagon Alley or Hogsmeade to go with the Hogwarts Castle. Maybe even a micro-scale Gringotts incorporating everything everyone been wishing for in a minifig scale version including all the vaults, the rail car with track & the Dragon on top.  I probably wouldn't buy it.  The one thing that I would hate is if they started using those micro-dolls like they made for the Disney books.  Also wouldn't like it if they went with a 4+/junior style wave.

[chris6507]

Basically for me i'm hoping I either LOVE them or HATE them. Worst thing I think would be something in-between. Just personal opinion, but I did not really like the moments sets at all, but I got them all for either completions sake or for minifigures. I still feel a bit of turmoil as the whether I should have wasted money on them or not? So yeah, it would be great if they are awesome. But I hope if they aren't great, that they are terrible and I can save some money! :-D

[girlie-site-boots]

I definitely don't think they'll do 4+, mainly because the first two films are PG the rest are 12 and quite long few 4 yos would sit and watch. Not to mention how many parents would encourage a 4 yo to watch 12 films? 

But I do think a micro scale 'something' to go with the micro castle would sell.

[spiderfan2000]

I think the biggest shock would be if the sets were Cursed Child or Hogwarts Mystery based.  Or if the D2C was something like Azkaban.  That would be way more random compared to Gringotts. 

[BigHobbit]

I kind of wonder if LEGO just feels like once they do Deathly Hallows sets, that will be seen by many as "the end" of the Harry Potter line because that story has such a solid conclusion. So instead, they're just going back and revisiting previous movies/books instead of representing DH. I'm fairly confident that eventually they WILL get to most everything we want to see. Frankly, I'm kind of hoping that (for my own selfish reasons only) there aren't a TON of sets I want in any one year. I mean, we're only in February, I know a minimum of two Harry Potter sets I will definitely be getting (Hogsmeade and Forbidden Corridor), one large one I might be getting (Great Hall/Chamber of Secrets), and I've already gotten the 4 Hogwarts Moments and the $150 Medieval Blacksmith!

 

 

Edited February 17, 2021 by BigHobbit

[BenderBrau]

14 minutes ago, girlie-site-boots said:

I definitely don't think they'll do 4+, mainly because the first two films are PG the rest are 12 and quite long few 4 yos would sit and watch. Not to mention how many parents would encourage a 4 yo to watch 12 films?

They made 4+ Star Wars sets, which all are PG12 (I think). It's not about films themselves but ingraining the franchise into the minds, it's just a matter of whether Harry Potter as a franchise is deemed, by marketing executives, "worthy" of that. I could see some 4+ sets, or maybe even Duplo (not likely but who knows), somewhere down the line, that is of course if the theme is to stay a bit longer than we're expecting

[Brickity]

I’m down for more PS and CoS, I can’t get enough of that magic from the first two films. However, junior sets would be a huge letdown  Basically everything we’ve loved about this reboot would be absent (Plus, imagine the minifigs... yikes)

Also, part of me thinks that one of the paths that “disappointment” could take, is getting sets we rarely ever talked about being a possibility for this year, like an infirmary set and a Padfoot vs Werewolf set. Some would be weirded out and disappointed while some would love them