[REVIEW] 42115 - Lamborghini Sian Custom Hood

[amorti]

17 hours ago, nerdsforprez said:

 Agreed.  Perhaps I should have been more specific.  My take is that it gets appreciated in terms of all the "OOOoooos" and "Ahhhhhs" but dismissed as "aesthetic" and not-Technic.   My recent epiphany indicates, at least to me, that bodywork can be mathematical and technical, as well as aesthetic, all at the same time....

I haven't built that many larger cars, being limited to the 911 RSR and Bruno's red one. The Lego RSR was the first thing - panels lobbed together however it worked out, lots of gaps, and generally flimsy and lame. It put me off large cars completely. Bruno's red one changed my mind.

[Seo-onDaddy]

4 hours ago, 1974 said:

You can just buy this one and get rid of those pesky LEGO bricks

I do not impose my values.
I wrote a review because there are definitely people who like this hood.
Pointlessly sarcastic just because you don't fit in with values means you're incapable of criticizing.

I like 42115 and Lego.  I just changed the hood.
If you don't like it, press the Backspace key.

And the scale of the model you suggested is 1:18. I don't want a small car.
If you want to be sarcastic, bring a suitable 1:8.

[1974]

The air must be very thin up there on that high horse of yours, makes thinking difficult

Yeah, this does not fit with my values and nor does it fit with the offcial EB policy :

"Clone and Competitor Brands: A Clone brand or competitor brand, is a product manufactured by a legitimate company. For Example Oxford,Mega Blocks. Kreo or Character Building. These are companies that do not infringe copyrights and provide a competitor product, such as licenses and themes LEGO do not produce. It is fair to discuss, compare and share these brands and their products in the Community section of the Forum. 

Bootlegs, Rip-Offs and Fakes: These manufacturers copy designs and minifigures from LEGO, other companies and even fans, to produce their own infringing products which they then sell, often at knock down prices. There are hundreds of names attached to these products and varied quality between them. We will no longer accept discussion and sharing of these products on Eurobricks. Most of these "brands" are facing legal cases and we have no interest in supporting them by providing a place for their criminal products to be seen."

We can debate what category this part falls in but according to those guidelines that part is NOT supposed to be discussed in this (the Technic) forum at all

Cheers,

Ole

 

[Seo-onDaddy]

5 hours ago, Lipko said:

Well, this hood is definitely a one-purpose part. Even the rims of the UCS cars can be used as rims in other similar cars.
The mudguard pieces can be used as mudguars in any other car in the same scale range.
You can argue that the drum in the cement mixer is a one-purpose piece, but it was a generic mixer, so at least you can build another mixer with it (4 axle, 3 axle whatever).

So dunno, maybe, yeah, whatever

I think that comparison is meaningless.
For example
Part '65633pb02' is dedicated to '76899 Lamborghini Huracán Super Trofeo EVO'.

 

Of course, it can be applied to other cars.
However, the printed pattern is 'Huracán Super Trofeo EVO' and this part, no matter what car it is assembled, is just 'Huracán Super Trofeo EVO'.

The same goes for this custom hood. It may be forced to assemble another car, but can you guarantee that there will never be a car that can assemble this hood?

The same goes for wheels. The wheels in the sian can be assembled in another 1:8.  But this wheel is sian's wheel. just assembled the wheel of Xi'an to another car.

I just changed the hood. There is no other meaning.
The advantage of Lego is that you can change parts freely.

[jorgeopesi]

5 hours ago, Bartybum said:

I don't see why not. Custom rims and electronics are allowed

Everything are allowed but not for everyone, I only use Lego parts.

[emielroumen]

Looks good, certainly a part dedicated to this Sián. Anybody in the Netherlands interested as well? Perhaps we can buy a couple and save on shipping / handling / production fees?

[LvdH]

 

3 hours ago, Seo-onDaddy said:

but can you guarantee that there will never be a car that can assemble this hood?

"Nothing in life is guaranteed, except death and taxes."
- someone smart, probably.

But honestly I'd put my money on no. There will never be a car that uses the same hood design, unless it's a modification of the Sian (for example like the Aventador and Aventador SVJ). And that is why this is too far for me. If you want a smooth bodywork without gaps, just buy a die cast model. People have made mods to the 42115 Sian that cover up a bunch of the holes and also create the trapezium shaped middle portion. Creating a single use part defeats the whole purpose of Lego to me.  

 

[Dylan M]

I Like your Hood... having a parts that's different from the rest, and Yes, it's only the Hood, i definitely like to have this part...if only i own 42115😅  

Thanks for sharing...😉

[weavil]

8 hours ago, 1974 said:

The air must be very thin up there on that high horse of yours, makes thinking difficult

Yeah, this does not fit with my values and nor does it fit with the offcial EB policy :

"Clone and Competitor Brands: A Clone brand or competitor brand, is a product manufactured by a legitimate company. For Example Oxford,Mega Blocks. Kreo or Character Building. These are companies that do not infringe copyrights and provide a competitor product, such as licenses and themes LEGO do not produce. It is fair to discuss, compare and share these brands and their products in the Community section of the Forum. 

Bootlegs, Rip-Offs and Fakes: These manufacturers copy designs and minifigures from LEGO, other companies and even fans, to produce their own infringing products which they then sell, often at knock down prices. There are hundreds of names attached to these products and varied quality between them. We will no longer accept discussion and sharing of these products on Eurobricks. Most of these "brands" are facing legal cases and we have no interest in supporting them by providing a place for their criminal products to be seen."

We can debate what category this part falls in but according to those guidelines that part is NOT supposed to be discussed in this (the Technic) forum at all

Cheers,

Ole

 

So does that mean we ban talk about custom 3d printed parts? Or the sell of 3d printed parts? What about custom made parts? Shouldn't this hood fall in with those? If it's not from a set put out by a clone/bootleg brand or Lego, then wouldn't be a custom made accessory?

I think the hood is nice and if someone want to buy it for their model let them, because they might buy it to put on before they put the model on display in their house.

[Bartybum]

@1974 excuse me, what? A single piece hood that’s custom isn’t a competitor, clone OR a fake. Sounds like you’re the one here with horse problems.

[SaperPL]

I've been 3d printing some parts recently and I get the idea of filling in the gaps where Lego doesn't make a specific piece, but making a huge detailed piece that's tailored for single car is just wrong.
Stuff like excavator/loader buckets, shaped mudguards etc made in a Lego kind of way that can be repurposed in various builds are cool if you can make them to look good and actually work properly, but this is just wrong and I'm standing here with a torch and pitchfork :P

[Void_S]

@1974, no one word for these rules and terms cannot applied here. At all. It's not a competitor, not a clone, not a fake (well, unless it was a genus Photoshop skill )
So, this part and discussion is 100%-legal and allowed to be discussed at EB.

As for me, after some days of thinking  abut this thing, I shed it in my mind as a question "why the LEGO Group is allowed to make 1-purpose parts but others are not?".

I suppose that if the "Lamborghini horse" logo was replaced with a recessed position for 1x1 tile (so it can be this logo or any other part) and got some additional mount points (like at other Technic panels), the part will be more "multi-purposed" and the discussion will over...

[syclone]

I would personally see this very viable with the changes mentioned by Void_S and if the bonnet itself also were split in 3 parts: the two triangles on the sides and central panel with the air intake (so in total there'd be 5 parts, counting the small panels mounted on the body) - this could be much more reusable, and might blend a little bit better with the Technic feel of the rest of the model.

Otherwise it is amazing how much work has gone into this, and judging from photos the lime is indistinguishable or extremely close, unlike some of the Lego's own parts hahah.

[Gray Gear]

The Hood alone does look nice, but I agree that it doesn't really fit on a LEGO car. I agree with @syclone it would have l looked better if the hood was made more like LEGO panels, and maybe had some pinholes.

[Void_S]

2 hours ago, syclone said:

Otherwise it is amazing how much work has gone into this, and judging from photos the lime is indistinguishable or extremely close, unlike some of the Lego's own parts hahah.

These facts makes me sad... Like "Hey, there was no place, so we didn't put a differential" vs. "well, I have modded it by adding the differential and... 32-speeds gerabox".

[barbanera]

On 4/28/2021 at 7:41 PM, nerdsforprez said:

Yea... its going to be a no from me.  Couple of reasons:

 

1- the rest of the body work has the typical Lego look and feel with some gaps and subtle oddities that one would expect from bricks.... and then BAM! model-like quality.  Just does not fit.  Something looks amiss.  

2 - I have come to realize that Technic body-work is under-valued and under-appreciated. Listened to a lot of the feedback by the community and I see that there is praise for the internals, the gears, the mechanisms, etc.  and a complete dismissal of the bodywork.  

But here is a recent experience of mine.  Right now I am finishing up the Centenario (@T Lego's version) and I must say, building the bodywork was not tedious at all.  The angles, the geometry, the techniques used to get there were just phenomenal.  Wonderful building experience.  Actually led me back to my model of the McLaren P1 (Bruno Jenson's creation) and I realize the same.  Looking over @Didumos69's hammerhead supercar (which is in my Lego room another model I have built) and there aren't even any panels, it is all liftarm geometry and angles) and again I am struck by how proper bodywork is not only amazing, but it very much is STEM-related.  Angles, geometry, etc.  

I think we get the notion that mechanics, gears, functions, etc. are all "Technic" whereas the bodywork is not.  I am no pro here, don't even work in the STEM field, but I have a different notion.  Bodywork, when done right, is all about angles, geometry, etc. which certainly falls in the STEM arena IMO.  

COming up with a single part that may aesthetically look better but takes away from what I just wrote about.... well, not for that at all...

Thumbs down for me...

I share every single word, this is the spirit of lego constructions

[MinusAndy]

For me, Lego should look like Lego, cars should be a little bit shonky otherwise we might as well just dump polycarbonate rc car bodies on them. I’d much rather see something built from, for example: re purposed parts like frankfurters for disc callipers than this. I don’t feel I could use this bonnet for anything else.  
The good news about this bonnet for anyone who doesn’t like it is that, like all clone/third party components, purchase isn’t compulsory. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. If you do, fill your boots!