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  On 6/8/2021 at 6:14 AM, Kintobor said:

Let's build characters who don't accidentally wind up being incredibly distance relatives this time, okay? :tongue:

Hey, that wasn't a planned thing. :tongue: The fact that undead exist in this universe tempts to reprise Cyber Sorrow, but... Nah.

In terms of canon-ness of Mission Zero, I'm with WBD on this one. The events as you saw them (minus maybe the part with Lord Metatron at the end... although nobody 'saw' that) generally happened, but I would keep mentions of it relatively vague. I wouldn't go a-speculatin' about what Ophaniel Jezero's deal is, for example, because I don't know what Jezero's deal is, and I don't know if I'm ever gonna figure it out. :tongue: I hope to get back into Mission Master-ing one day, but I've started a new job, so... we shall see.

I ought to have my character introduced by this evening. :thumbup:

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  On 6/9/2021 at 1:26 PM, samurai-turtle said:

I feel like I answered @Classic_Spaceman question. That he (or she) was probably not going to get much out of the "cyborg". The only thing I am hinting at it wasn't working alone. 

Mostly what I was going for is a background story for my character. (Witch I just told some more of). And I liked the idea of a street fight breaking into the "bar" it usually seems to go the other way, a fight in the "bar" spills out into the street. What is a story (or tall tail) if not quasi adventure? Alright I won't fight you on that. So no capital ships smashing into the space station (not that I have that planned at any point). 

Besides I am starting to get the idea that if some of you don't like the idea. You will just scream "it is not cannon". :sceptic: And then part of wants to say I will show you a cannon...:cannon: 

I think how you handled it is exactly what I had in mind. The point about quasi adventures was more, I'd prefer folks don't bring in multiple NPC's to interact with/go on adventures with, in the hall thread itself. If you'd like to write personal fiction for your character and what they do outside of their time in the hall or outside of missions that's ok, but the hall thread isn't really the place for it. Your character can certainly tell other characters in the hall what they did in their time away, but writing lots of detailed stories occurring in real time in the hall thread itself doesn't really allow for other players to interact with what your creating. The hall thread is really for what happens in the hall, not what characters did down at the docks or blocks away or at their personal apartment. Not that you can't write that down somewhere else, we'd just prefer to role-play with you instead of just read how you role-played with yourself. :classic:

  On 6/9/2021 at 7:12 AM, Classic_Spaceman said:

Could we have a section devoted to the unique foods and beverages of the universe? I ask, since between the number of references to foods/drinks, the fact that one of our PCs is a chef, and my own personal interest in food, the culinary lore of the game is going to expand quickly! I would like a place to describe things in more detail (outside of RP), and that can facilitate a degree of continuity. 

:sceptic: I'm not too keen on creating a section quite yet, we're a little early for hammering any sort of details like that down. Again, we don't need a Wookiepedia of everything in the game. :classic: Plus, leaving it loose allows for other players to creatively develop their own unique culinary additions without having to feel constrained by the "canon" foods. If characters are really interested I'd imagine the players will be keeping an eye on other player's dialog and it feels so much more valued when another player reference's your creation because they read your previous posts rather than just referenced a library/wiki article. See Flaming Gumdrops from Heroica 1.0 for example. :classic:

  On 6/9/2021 at 4:34 AM, Kintobor said:

I based Zaria's character concept around the concept of "everyone's cool mom", but I'm also totally cool if Valesia and Zaria are "everyone's cool aunts". :poke:

:laugh: We may have inadvertently created the same character concept, though I was honestly going more for southern diner counter worker who listens to people's problems and makes a mean gumbo.

  On 6/9/2021 at 7:12 AM, Classic_Spaceman said:

Could we have a section devoted to the unique foods and beverages of the universe? I ask, since between the number of references to foods/drinks, the fact that one of our PCs is a chef, and my own personal interest in food, the culinary lore of the game is going to expand quickly! I would like a place to describe things in more detail (outside of RP), and that can facilitate a degree of continuity. 

The foods of this universe are very peripheral to the need-to-know category that main library entries are intended for. If a player wants to write a 'common dishes' entry they're free to do so, but that's 'soft cannon' that no-one is obliged to adhere to. Really, they're just words on a screen - 'fluff' if you will.

  On 6/9/2021 at 1:26 PM, samurai-turtle said:

Besides I am starting to get the idea that if some of you don't like the idea. You will just scream "it is not cannon". :sceptic: And then part of wants to say I will show you a cannon...:cannon: 

I personally enjoyed it, but my character isn't present to interact with the scene.

  On 6/9/2021 at 5:50 PM, Waterbrick Down said:

:laugh: We may have inadvertently created the same character concept, though I was honestly going more for southern diner counter worker who listens to people's problems and makes a mean gumbo.

I think they're different enough once you get past the "everyone's cool mom" aspect. It's pretty clear Zaria and Valesia have had pretty different experiences growing up.

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  On 6/9/2021 at 1:26 PM, samurai-turtle said:

Besides I am starting to get the idea that if some of you don't like the idea. You will just scream "it is not cannon". :sceptic: And then part of wants to say I will show you a cannon...:cannon: 

  On 6/9/2021 at 5:50 PM, Waterbrick Down said:

I think how you handled it is exactly what I had in mind. The point about quasi adventures was more, I'd prefer folks don't bring in multiple NPC's to interact with/go on adventures with, in the hall thread itself. If you'd like to write personal fiction for your character and what they do outside of their time in the hall or outside of missions that's ok, but the hall thread isn't really the place for it. Your character can certainly tell other characters in the hall what they did in their time away, but writing lots of detailed stories occurring in real time in the hall thread itself doesn't really allow for other players to interact with what your creating. The hall thread is really for what happens in the hall, not what characters did down at the docks or blocks away or at their personal apartment. Not that you can't write that down somewhere else, we'd just prefer to role-play with you instead of just read how you role-played with yourself. :classic:

It's kind of akin to watching a cutscene. It's difficult to engage with a block of text, especially when it doesn't seem to directly impact any of the other characters. For what it's worth, I thought everyone did a decent job in trying to engage with the brawl in our conversation, but if there's something more we could have done @samurai-turtle I'd be interested to hear what you were thinking!

 

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  On 6/9/2021 at 7:24 PM, Duvors said:

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  On 6/9/2021 at 5:50 PM, Waterbrick Down said:

I think how you handled it is exactly what I had in mind. The point about quasi adventures was more, I'd prefer folks don't bring in multiple NPC's to interact with/go on adventures with, in the hall thread itself. If you'd like to write personal fiction for your character and what they do outside of their time in the hall or outside of missions that's ok, but the hall thread isn't really the place for it. Your character can certainly tell other characters in the hall what they did in their time away, but writing lots of detailed stories occurring in real time in the hall thread itself doesn't really allow for other players to interact with what your creating. The hall thread is really for what happens in the hall, not what characters did down at the docks or blocks away or at their personal apartment. Not that you can't write that down somewhere else, we'd just prefer to role-play with you instead of just read how you role-played with yourself. :classic:

(I think another problem is I was trying to add stuff for a future quest no matter how little it might be...I think). 

 

  On 6/9/2021 at 8:09 PM, The Legonater said:

It's kind of akin to watching a cutscene. It's difficult to engage with a block of text, especially when it doesn't seem to directly impact any of the other characters. For what it's worth, I thought everyone did a decent job in trying to engage with the brawl in our conversation, but if there's something more we could have done @samurai-turtle I'd be interested to hear what you were thinking!

I think part of the problem is I had this idea in my head for some time and I just did to get it out of the way. As for what I expected everyone else to do I really did not have anything in mind. It seem like they did want they want to do here. Plus, I think it is better than saying " I walked in the doorway to join Heroica." That sounds a little boring. Maybe part of me sometimes feel I don't get the attention I want sometimes (like some social media star). Then their is times I feel like I am a cat knocking everything off the table. Besides it can be hard to tell what people want some time especially when you (or me in this case) feels like an outsider and probably never will feel like fitting in an crowd.  

  On 6/9/2021 at 6:04 PM, Duvors said:

I personally enjoyed it, but my character isn't present to interact with the scene.

It does seem like every one is fine with the "cut scene". (Witch is not the dumbest way to induce a character.)

As for my "cannon" comment I will see the term used in other media (or fan) spots. And I get a little annoyed with "what is cannon" and "what is not cannon". So sorry about being a "something" about it. 

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@Endgame Please don't forget to put your character's stats in the statistical registry at some point. :)

Only a few days in and there's a philosophical debate in the Hall, this is the Heroica I remember. :laugh:

  On 6/10/2021 at 3:24 AM, The Legonater said:

Only a few days in and there's a philosophical debate in the Hall, this is the Heroica I remember. :laugh:

"Heh, you're here to roleplay and get enjoy a light combat system? Pathetic. The real Heroica players stay in the hall thread and argue about philosophy and politics while staying in character." :laugh:

@Waterbrick Down Did you ever put the station map on this site? I was looking for it here and couldn't find it. 

  On 6/10/2021 at 4:14 AM, samurai-turtle said:

@Waterbrick Down Did you ever put the station map on this site? I was looking for it here and couldn't find it. 

I believe it's in the Library thread.

 

  On 6/10/2021 at 4:36 AM, Kintobor said:

I believe it's in the Library thread.

I must be blind. I swore I looked there earlier and didn't see it. Maybe I was to impatient and zipped past the thing. :def_shrug: 

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  On 6/10/2021 at 4:57 AM, samurai-turtle said:

I must be blind. I swore I looked there earlier and didn't see it. Maybe I was to impatient and zipped past the thing. :def_shrug: 

Yep it’s in the library under Locations of Interest.

I've been checking up on the forum every now and then and was delighted to see Heroica: GATS to have launched! So cool! It all looks very neat and well-thought out. There's a lot of information and background to digest, but I love the worldbuilding so far. The idea of science fiction fantasy is still somewhat alien to me (no pun intended), but the style looks really interesting and unique.

I'm itching to come up with a character and join in once more :grin:. I don't think I still have the time to invest like I used to, though. I hope that a lot of new blood finds its way here to give Heroica 2.0 a bright future like its predecessor!

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  On 6/10/2021 at 6:38 PM, Khorne said:

I've been checking up on the forum every now and then and was delighted to see Heroica: GATS to have launched! So cool! It all looks very neat and well-thought out. There's a lot of information and background to digest, but I love the worldbuilding so far. The idea of science fiction fantasy is still somewhat alien to me (no pun intended), but the style looks really interesting and unique.

I'm itching to come up with a character and join in once more :grin:. I don't think I still have the time to invest like I used to, though. I hope that a lot of new blood finds its way here to give Heroica 2.0 a bright future like its predecessor!

Hi Khorne, great to hear from you. :sweet: You're always welcome to join and participate as little or as much as you want. Also a big thanks to you for the logo and rules page formats. They were super helpful when drafting things up.

  On 6/10/2021 at 7:16 PM, Waterbrick Down said:

Hi Khorne, great to hear from you. :sweet: You're always welcome to join and participate as little or as much as you want. Also a big thanks to you for the logo and rules page formats. They were super helpful when drafting things up.

Thanks! No problem! If I can help with other stuff graphics-wise, feel free to reach out and I'll see if I can help.

I'm not sure if this is the right place or if I need to post this in the Rules & FAQ thread, but I don't really understand the different weapon types. Perhaps I glanced over it, but what's the gaming difference between Kinetic, Energy and Elemental weapons? Does one do more damage vs a certain type of enemy or how does it work?

Also, Energy weapons are probably lasers and the like, while Kinetic are the more "traditional" weapons and Elemental ones are the fantasy magic weapons; did I get that right?

  On 6/10/2021 at 7:37 PM, Khorne said:

Thanks! No problem! If I can help with other stuff graphics-wise, feel free to reach out and I'll see if I can help.

I'm not sure if this is the right place or if I need to post this in the Rules & FAQ thread, but I don't really understand the different weapon types. Perhaps I glanced over it, but what's the gaming difference between Kinetic, Energy and Elemental weapons? Does one do more damage vs a certain type of enemy or how does it work?

Also, Energy weapons are probably lasers and the like, while Kinetic are the more "traditional" weapons and Elemental ones are the fantasy magic weapons; did I get that right?

The different weapon types have to do with how armor works. Each weapon type has a corresponding armor type, if a person's armor is the same type as the weapon attacking them they gain a flat bonus to their defense roll equal to the armor's quality.

And, while I was hesitant to ask this before you brought it up, it would be nice to have some diagrams for the Pluravvian and League governments (I believe you did the one for Oleon in BotBS and I found it very impressive).

And, sorry to leave this till last, I'm glad to see you again.

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  On 6/10/2021 at 7:37 PM, Khorne said:

Thanks! No problem! If I can help with other stuff graphics-wise, feel free to reach out and I'll see if I can help.

I'm not sure if this is the right place or if I need to post this in the Rules & FAQ thread, but I don't really understand the different weapon types. Perhaps I glanced over it, but what's the gaming difference between Kinetic, Energy and Elemental weapons? Does one do more damage vs a certain type of enemy or how does it work?

Also, Energy weapons are probably lasers and the like, while Kinetic are the more "traditional" weapons and Elemental ones are the fantasy magic weapons; did I get that right?

Duvors is right regarding the matching of the weapon types with the armor types. There is no longer just a set armor stat like Heroica 1.0, that way one player doesn't become impossible to damage compared to his fellow players.

The typing is correct, the FAQ has example weapons for each category, but the general breakdown is:
Kinetic is anything that physically impacts something, whether it be a bullet, or a slug, or a hunk of metal/wood/claws/fists/etc.
Energy is any form, whether it be radiation, laser, sonic, photon, etc. there could be some overlap with elemental
Elemental is your basic fire, wind, lightning, ice, water, etc.

The actual aesthetic is totally up to the player and while we'd like for their to be consistency, you could easily have one player call their heat phaser an elemental weapon and another an elemental weapon.

  On 6/10/2021 at 7:54 PM, Duvors said:

The different weapon types have to do with how armor works. Each weapon type has a corresponding armor type, if a person's armor is the same type as the weapon attacking them they gain a flat bonus to their defense roll equal to the armor's quality.

And, while I was hesitant to ask this before you brought it up, it would be nice to have some diagrams for the Pluravvian and League governments (I believe you did the one for Oleon in BotBS and I found it very impressive).

And, sorry to leave this till last, I'm glad to see you again.

Great, thanks for the information! I didn't really catch that in the Rules topic, but I maybe I just read over the explanation.

For the maps, you may send me a PM so we won't derail this thread.

  On 6/10/2021 at 8:05 PM, Waterbrick Down said:

Duvors is right regarding the matching of the weapon types with the armor types. There is no longer just a set armor stat like Heroica 1.0, that way one player doesn't become impossible to damage compared to his fellow players.

The typing is correct, the FAQ has example weapons for each category, but the general breakdown is:
Kinetic is anything that physically impacts something, whether it be a bullet, or a slug, or a hunk of metal/wood/claws/fists/etc.
Energy is any form, whether it be radiation, laser, sonic, photon, etc. there could be some overlap with elemental
Elemental is your basic fire, wind, lightning, ice, water, etc.

The actual aesthetic is totally up to the player and while we'd like for their to be consistency, you could easily have one player call their heat phaser an elemental weapon and another an elemental weapon.

I also didn't see the examples in the FAQ/Rules topic, I must be going blind :wacko:. Thanks for the explanation here!

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  On 6/10/2021 at 8:21 PM, Khorne said:

Great, thanks for the information! I didn't really catch that in the Rules topic, but I maybe I just read over the explanation.

For the maps, you may send me a PM so we won't derail this thread.

I also didn't see the examples in the FAQ/Rules topic, I must be going blind :wacko:. Thanks for the explanation here!

It's in one of the FAQ questions regarding weapons, but it was somewhat vague. I've updated it to call out more concrete examples. 

@Waterbrick Down

A new question for the FAQ:

Q: How much 'fluff' do I have to read beforehand?

A: As much as we'd like to say 'none', that's unfortunately false. We recommend you read at least the Startravel and the Ã†thergates and Ætherspace entries in the Library. If you're playing an existing species, we recommend reading their entry in the Embassy, as even standard species (Elves, Dwarves, Humans) have some different assumptions here. If you want to incorporate AI into your character or their backstory, the Adamite entry in the same thread explains how the setting handles that.

And I just found out that the customizable kit in the rules includes 'calbirated'. We can't catch a break can we?

 

Edit: "Standard Target Numbers Basd..." ^#$%&@! DAMMIT.

And the explanation of what Strength does has 'Knetic' and the Engineer kit has 'Elmental'.

Edit again: In Equipment, 'succssefully' In Essence of Glibness 'persuassion'.

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@Waterbrick Down: While we are making minor corrections; I noticed that the Training Center thread has the following text: "I’m currently assembling a ï»¿training regime" - While 'regime' can actually be used here, I assume that this is a typo of 'regimen', as that is the more common word to use in this context. 
 

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