Classic_Spaceman Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said: Again Brickclicker said that it was cancelled months ago and that pictures should’ve never leaked (I don’t really get that considering the leaked pictures were of the American Box Art not preliminary pics or something) @Brick Clicker has not said that either here or on Instagram, and the supposed cancellation is not being reported by any other sources (such as Promobricks). Quote
Pulp Detective Posted February 21, 2023 Author Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said: This is an absurd strawman, and you absolutely know that. Also, if you are personally offended that Germans are the villains in the Indiana Jones series, you are literally a Nazi. You accuse me of strawmanning and yet here you are unironically calling me a "nAzI" because I have an issue with an entire population getting demonised.Besides I'm Greek and unless you didn't know the Germans commited war crimes against my people in WWII but as an adult I can look past issues and not be hateful against an entire population. Edited February 21, 2023 by Pulp Detective Quote
Legofan2001 Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said: @Brick Clicker has not said that either here or on Instagram, and the supposed cancellation is not being reported by any other sources (such as Promobricks). I only know what he told me🤷♂️ Edited February 21, 2023 by Legofan2001 Quote
Retro Brick Reviews Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, Pulp Detective said: You accuse me of strawmanning and yet here you are unironically calling me a "nAzI" because I have an issue with an entire population getting demonised.Besides I'm Greek and unless you didn't know the Germans commited war crimes against my people in WWII but as an adult I can look past issues and not be hateful against an entire population. The entire population of... Germans who served in the military for the Nazi regime? You're right, it would be awful to consider that wrong. Quote
Pulp Detective Posted February 21, 2023 Author Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, Retro Brick Reviews said: The entire population of... Germans who served in the military for the Nazi regime? You're right, it would be awful to consider that wrong. Man you anti racists are a real riot.With your mindset I might as well hate every turk out there considering their whole history is them commiting war crimes or the mongols. 6 minutes ago, Actor Builder said: That’s all true I can’t believe they’re cancelling ant man 3 you’re so smart Truth hurts huh? Quote
Classic_Spaceman Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, Pulp Detective said: But if it is the former I have a few guesses as to why it is getting cancelled.With todays political climate where portraying non-Whites as the villains in anything (including toys) is outright hereretical for the powers that be then TLGs decision make sense from a certain standpoint. That is not at all why the movie is problematic, and if that were actually the case, then why have we gotten characters such as Namor, 838 Mordo, Rae Sloane, MCU Electro (coming later this year), etc? 9 minutes ago, GonzoTheGreat said: Some people seem to be unintentionally revealing their true selves Indeed. 😐 8 minutes ago, Actor Builder said: That’s all true I can’t believe they’re cancelling ant man 3 you’re so smart And Loki, and Kang Dynasty, and Secret Wars, etc, etc! Quote
Retro Brick Reviews Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pulp Detective said: Man you anti racists are a real riot.With your mindset I might as well hate every turk out there considering their whole history is them commiting war crimes or the mongols. No, only the ones who directly commit the war crimes. Then again with your political views it's not surprising you can't comprehend the idea of not dividing people into 100% good or 100% evil based on nationality. 2 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said: That is not at all why the movie is problematic, and if that were actually the case, then why have we gotten characters such as Namor, 838 Mordo, Rae Sloane, MCU Electro (coming later this year), etc? Because they're intentionally arguing in bad faith. Quote
Pulp Detective Posted February 21, 2023 Author Posted February 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Classic_Spaceman said: That is not at all why the movie is problematic, and if that were actually the case, then why have we gotten characters such as Namor, 838 Mordo, Rae Sloane, MCU Electro (coming later this year), etc? Probably because the overton window gets pushed every year even further left.The DIEversity quota has reached the point were nowdays both the good guys and the bad guys need to be diverse. Quote
Retro Brick Reviews Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Pulp Detective said: Probably because the overton window gets pushed every year even further left.The DIEversity quota has reached the point were nowdays both the good guys and the bad guys need to be diverse. So which is it? Are the woke overlords not allowing villains to exist unless they're white, or are they so woke the villains can't be white? These things are directly contradictory. Neither of them make a lick of sense, but at least pick just one. Quote
Classic_Spaceman Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, Pulp Detective said: You accuse me of strawmanning and yet here you are unironically calling me a "nAzI" because I have an issue with an entire population getting demonised.Besides I'm Greek and unless you didn't know the Germans commited war crimes against my people in WWII but as an adult I can look past issues and not be hateful against an entire population. The only Germans who are demonised in the Indiana Jones movies literally ARE Nazis! WTF?? Quote
Retro Brick Reviews Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) Anyway, getting back to discussion that's slightly more intelligent than the average hamhock, I DM'd @Brick Clicker as to the validity of the claim that the ToD and Indy 5 sets are confirmed cancelled: (Hold on I need to free up attachment space :( Edited February 21, 2023 by Retro Brick Reviews Quote
Clone OPatra Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 Alright everyone, this spiralled WAY out of control. Put a pin in it now, from all sides. Where was ANY reason given for this rumour? I saw Promobricks' IG story. It gave no context. But everyone here has immediately taken it in a baseless direction of discussion of potentially offensive material? If anyone has any additional information please PM me as I'm curious to know why everyone thinks the rumour is based on people being offended by what the set depicts. Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 I think that some people are taking a franchise about an adventurer fighting Nazis a little bit too seriously Like, really, it's not that deep. They are one of the most popular 80's adventure movies. People love Indy, and The Dial of Destiny is one of the most anticipated 2023 movies. Quote
Alegrispa Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 23 minutes ago, FrightFlight said: No normal, average person cares that some movie released decades ago can be seen as insensitive in some ways. Would the ToD set really be the thing to sink Lego? I never said it would "sink Lego", just that it could result in a little bad press. Also, there are normal, average people who feel hurt about offensive portrayals of their culture and people in older media, and there are normal average people who feel uncomfortable with those portrayals despite not being part of that particular people or culture. It's called having empathy. And I reckon I can relate easier since I do belong to a small non-white minority often portrayed very negatively in media, both old and new. Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 I think we should just wait to see how the situation develops further. People are going insane on this forum. Quote
Retro Brick Reviews Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) Here's the discussion with @Brick Clicker (Sorry it's so crunchy, I have barely any attachment kb left and I don't know how to free up more)  Oh come ON Edited February 21, 2023 by Retro Brick Reviews Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, Alegrispa said: I never said it would "sink Lego", just that it could result in a little bad press. Also, there are normal, average people who feel hurt about offensive portrayals of their culture and people in older media, and there are normal average people who feel uncomfortable with those portrayals despite not being part of that particular people or culture. It's called having empathy. And I reckon I can relate easier since I do belong to a small non-white minority often portrayed very negatively in media, both old and new. I assure you that there would be absolutely no bad press at all for LEGO. It's a beloved movie series. Hate it or not, people love Indiana Jones as a franchise. LEGO releasing sets based on it is not hurtful in any way. Quote
Legofan2001 Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Retro Brick Reviews said: Here's the discussion with @Brick Clicker (Sorry it's so crunchy, I have barely any attachment kb left and I don't know how to free up more)  Oh come ON Check DM Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Clone OPatra said: Alright everyone, this spiralled WAY out of control. Put a pin in it now, from all sides. Where was ANY reason given for this rumour? I saw Promobricks' IG story. It gave no context. But everyone here has immediately taken it in a baseless direction of discussion of potentially offensive material? If anyone has any additional information please PM me as I'm curious to know why everyone thinks the rumour is based on people being offended by what the set depicts. The only info that was released by leakers is that the Temple of Doom might be canned or postponed, as it (apparently) doesn't appear on any listings, and neither does the second wave, which means it could also be not happening. None of it was said with any kind of certainty. Quote
Retro Brick Reviews Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) I can't get the DMs to upload, but essentially BC says that @Legofan2001 took what they said way put of context, and that the only set there's a question about (i.e. might be cancelled but not 100%) is the ToD. Edited February 21, 2023 by Retro Brick Reviews Quote
Clone OPatra Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, THELEGOBATMAN said: The only info that was released by leakers is that the Temple of Doom might be canned or postponed, as it (apparently) doesn't appear on any listings, and neither does the second wave, which means it could also be not happening. None of it was said with any kind of certainty. So it could actually have a faulty play feature like the Marvel mechs which LEGO only found at the 11th hour? Or there could be literally any unknown reason for it? Quote
Brick Clicker Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 The best thing to do in this case will be to wait to see what Lego reveals as everything is just rumours until they confirm things. I said I'd heard similar to Promobricks and it's been blown out of proportion so I'll leave it there for now. Quote
Legofan2001 Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Retro Brick Reviews said: I can't get the DMs to upload, but essentially BC says that @Legofan2001 took what they said way put of context, and that the only set there's a question about (i.e. not 100% cancelled) is Temple of Doom. It’s not loading but that is not what Brickclicker told me…………. Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, Clone OPatra said: So it could actually have a faulty play feature like the Marvel mechs which LEGO only found at the 11th hour? Or there could be literally any unknown reason for it? Yeah, exactly. No leaker has mentioned any kind of reason as to why the set might be cancelled (even tho no one's sure if it really is). Quote
Classic_Spaceman Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, Legofan2001 said: I only know what he told me🤷♂️ I will hold off on believing anything until I see it posted publicly and/or confirmed by another source. 11 minutes ago, Pulp Detective said: Man you anti racists are a real riot.With your mindset I might as well hate every turk out there considering their whole history is them commiting war crimes or the mongols. The “entire population” that he was referring to was specifically the entire population of Nazis, not the entire population of Germans. 8 minutes ago, Pulp Detective said: Probably because the overton window gets pushed every year even further left.The DIEversity quota has reached the point were nowdays both the good guys and the bad guys need to be diverse. So. . . Villains cannot be non-White because wokeness, but also villains are required to be non-White because wokeness??? I also feel the need to point out that the phrase “DIEversity” (specifically with “die” capitalised) is commonly used by White-supremacists, as it is referencing the so-called “White Genocide” Great Replacement conspiracy theory. Quote
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