Indiana Jones 2023 - Rumors & Discussion

[Murdoch17]

1 hour ago, Portal Out said:

Wow this has to be one of the roughest launches in recent memory 

Brings to mind the "Fly, yes! Land, no!"  line from Last Crusade!

[Retro Brick Reviews]

2 hours ago, Actor Builder said:

The belief that values are inherently motivated by fear is an absolutely unhinged statement. 

It's an unhinged statement, but there are a lot of unhinged values predicated on it. (That said, none of those values relate to the situation that may or may not exist regarding the Temple of Doom, obviously.)

[Mandalorianknight]

2 hours ago, Kit Figsto said:

Hold up, the $80 price doesn't make sense, because there were pictures of it in store being sold for $46.99 USD.  

I assume that toy store is using MSRP and then adding a few bucks (because a lot of the smaller chains tend to do that), so I feel like that's gotta be a mistake on Target's part.

Wait, that's right. Though it would discredit the plane chase price too. 

2 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

It's hilarious how confusing the Indiana Jones relaunch is. No one has any idea what's actually happening.

It is pretty funny.

2 hours ago, Actor Builder said:

The belief that values are inherently motivated by fear is an absolutely unhinged statement. 

Brand values? Yes. Lego's values are 100% being determined at least in part of their fear of a boycott or negative press if they release sets some deem controversial. 

[Retro Brick Reviews]

1 minute ago, Murdoch17 said:

Brings to mind the "Fly, yes! Land, no!"  line from Last Crusade!

Fair, but I think an even better analogy for this launch is the opening of Raiders when Satipo runs off with the Idol only to get impaled up the entire vertical length of his body approximately five steps later.

[BrickBob Studpants]

3 minutes ago, Retro Brick Reviews said:

[...] when Satipo runs off with the Idol only to get impaled up the entire vertical length of his body approximately five steps later.

Dude, spoilers!!

To me, the best metaphor for this whole thing is the mechanic meeting his demise

[Legofan2001]

Yeah the claim that Brickclicker told me about the temple of doom never made sense and TBF he never explained his reasoning to me or this forum for how “The Temple of Doom” was cancelled months ago. 

[Retro Brick Reviews]

19 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Dude, spoilers!!

To me, the best metaphor for this whole thing is the mechanic meeting his demise

Nah, actually the best metaphor is Belloq finally opening the Ark after so much anticipation just to find it full of sand... and then getting his head exploded by God Himself.

Edited March 8, 2023 by Retro Brick Reviews

[BrickWaters]

The Jurassic Park sets which don't come out for another three months are available for pre-order on LEGO's website but the Indiana Jones sets which randomly showed up in a store haven't even been officially announced yet. I have no idea what is going on. Looking forward to getting the sets but I'm still not sold on the fedora with hair. I think it looks too big. 

[BrickBob Studpants]

22 minutes ago, Retro Brick Reviews said:

Nah, actually the best metaphor is Belloq finally opening the Ark after so much anticipation just to find it full of sand... and then getting his head exploded by God Himself.

Good one

This leak has me hopeful that the official reveal could be tomorrow. I just want this uncertainty to end

[Mopasali]

1 hour ago, nicknack116 said:

Does anyone know the length/width/height dimensions for the 18+ diorama set? I’ve been trying to find that with no luck.

Brickshop has it at 8 x 20 x 7 (inches).  Under the read more (where Temple is also referenced).

[RogueTwo]

It's been at least over a year since I've posted on this website, but I just had to chime in:

Yes please to the Temple of the Golden Idol. I'd even pay $200 if that's what LEGO charges. No thanks for the Plane set. Hard pass for the Well of Souls.

But has it occurred to anyone else that we could be dealing with an Osprey situation where the sets never get an official release, and everything that made it to stores gets recalled?  

[Retro Brick Reviews]

27 minutes ago, RogueTwo said:

But has it occurred to anyone else that we could be dealing with an Osprey situation where the sets never get an official release, and everything that made it to stores gets recalled? 

That makes no sense, considering that the Temple of Doom has seemingly been Osprey'd (or delayed, optimistically) out of the lineup, meaning the others are clearly intended to release on schedule. Or are you proposing they made four sets, canned one of them with plans to release the other three, and then decided to can all of them three weeks before release just for the heck of it?

Edited March 9, 2023 by Retro Brick Reviews

[The Stud]

I’m going to wait and hold judgement on these changed prices. The Golden Idol Temple and Fighter Plane prices are plausible but $80 for the Well of Souls is just absurd. I haven’t been super pleased with Lego as of late, especially because of the lackluster way they’ve been handling the revival of this theme, but to their defense, I do think this could just be a pricing error in that particular Target store.

I think Lego will finally get around to revealing the sets within the next few days so hopefully *some* of our concerns will be laid to rest.

[Murdoch17]

1 hour ago, RogueTwo said:

But has it occurred to anyone else that we could be dealing with an Osprey situation where the sets never get an official release, and everything that made it to stores gets recalled?  

Don't say that, don't even think it, as you might give them ideas!

[nicknack116]

2 hours ago, Mopasali said:

Brickshop has it at 8 x 20 x 7 (inches).  Under the read more (where Temple is also referenced).

Thanks! Must’ve missed that. So glad that’ll fit perfectly on my shelf.

[DrHenryJonesJr]

5 hours ago, RogueTwo said:

But has it occurred to anyone else that we could be dealing with an Osprey situation where the sets never get an official release, and everything that made it to stores gets recalled?  

I had already mentioned that a few times here, but it was ignored or not addressed, or dismissed as "unrealistic".

I have to admit that I don't believe it in general either, in detail, but I don't think it's unrealistic until the official announcement finally comes, nothing is unrealistic for me, LEGO has done "nonsense" so many times.
Also, as far as I can remember, Osprey was already announced and canceled in the middle of the market launch.

But as has already been said here several times by others: We speculate in circles, I believe that every obvious and absurd theory has already been discussed here at least once or twice, but in the end we still don't know more than that there was a teaser in the SmythsToys catalog announcing the series to be exclusive to SmythsToys from April 1st, that some retailers in the US have already received copies, that a few sold them too early and that brickshop.eu has now listed them and LEGO above so far kept absolute silence about all.

[RedHoodPug]

10 hours ago, Actor Builder said:

The belief that values are inherently motivated by fear is an absolutely unhinged statement. 

Depends upon your use of the word fear, but well done for going for the immediate insult. The Technic Osprey was 11 days away from official release when they announced its cancellation after petitioning from the German Peace Society. Was it cancelled because at that same moment Lego coincidentally realised, in a palm-to-forehead eureka moment, that it went against their brand values, or for fear of repercussion? They set themselves a standard. They breached that standard. Someone pulled them up on it. They stopped before things got worse.

[Plissken]

The Osprey had a part destroying mechanism. The uproar about the vehicle being military came pretty handy for them. They never mentioned this design flaw.

We can assume that these sets are over a year old. Maybe some parts don't work so well and will be replaced with newer ones? Maybe ToD is a retailer exclusive and will clog the shelfs in every Smyths Store coming April 1. We still don't know and this pessimistic attitude in this thread is very exhausting and based only on assumptions (as are mine, more positive views 😉).

So let's just wait and see. I'm pretty sure, that everybody will get his Indy-fix😁

[BrickBob Studpants]

3 minutes ago, Plissken said:

So let's just wait and see. I'm pretty sure, that everybody will get his Indy-fix😁

Yeah, we‘ll get our fix. It‘s like getting the nice, juicy steak you ordered, but without the sauce, side dishes, and dessert we thought were part of the menu 

Btw, Zusammengebaut posted the brickshop images in an article, in which they state that they will come back to the topic of the ToD cancellation at a later point. It‘s unclear if they know something already or will try to investigate the subject, but at least we‘ll get answers at some point

[DrHenryJonesJr]

From a purely objective and factual point of view, it is of course professional to have a clear policy and to stick to it.
However, we also know that this policy is not always as clear as LEGO itself claims.

This is evident from the fact that the aircraft set contains an aircraft that (also) was or is a military aircraft, or was used as such in the film, and there is an ark in the tomb set that has a religious background.

But beyond that, not releasing a set because of this policy is less of an issue than designing a set despite this policy and then revoking it a few months before the market launch.
As far as we know, a LEGO set takes about a year from concept to retail.
After Indiana Jones was postponed several times, it is not unrealistic that work on the Lego ideas started as early as 2019, when the script for Indy 5 was finalized.
Seriously? It could have taken up to 4 years for someone to realize that a product contradicts your political correctness policy?

So the question is not so much IF the product could have been cancelled, but WHEN it could be cancelled. That might be why you find it ridiculous.
Especially since this set already existed and there was exactly the same controversy back then as it is today, which isn't new either and humanity is much more sensitive today than it was in the past
PETA even made a fuss at the LEGO farm for as long as I can remember.

However, I would like to reiterate that an assumption does not become true just because it is mentioned many times, many mention it, or many mention it frequently.

There are currently only rumors, that's the point.
Even if it is said that the rumors seem to be true, they still remain just rumours, no more, no less.

Even if these rumors turn out to be fact, they were just rumors that turned out to be true.

We can only hope for the best anyway and end up taking what we can get.

[Plissken]

32 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Yeah, we‘ll get our fix. It‘s like getting the nice, juicy steak you ordered, but without the sauce, side dishes, and dessert we thought were part of the menu 

Btw, Zusammengebaut posted the brickshop images in an article, in which they state that they will come back to the topic of the ToD cancellation at a later point. It‘s unclear if they know something already or will try to investigate the subject, but at least we‘ll get answers at some point

This is a bit dramatic, don't you Think?

In the comments of the article on Zusammengebaut they say, that they are still waiting for Lego to give them an explanation. They know nothing more than us.

I don't buy the controversy-rumour. Like others said, all of these Sets held "problematic" stuff. I'm leaning more to a quality problem. Maybe some new part doesn't hold up over time, and the reschedule of the movie was a blessing to fix the error and release the set at a later time. 

[Mr. Cube]

12 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

It's hilarious how confusing the Indiana Jones relaunch is. No one has any idea what's actually happening.

You know. This always happens when you mess with the time...

[DrHenryJonesJr]

36 minutes ago, Plissken said:

This is a bit dramatic, don't you Think?

I wouldn't see it that dramatically.

To get back to the bottom of the facts: It's about a toy.

But we're fans, we've been waiting for almost 14 years to get something from Indiana Jones again, of any kind.
We know that LEGO only manages to launch series in connection with a film and the associated hype, if at all, and even then not always. Especially in the case of topics where it is questionable how much they generate for LEGO in terms of sales globally, since the LEGO community or the Indiana Jones fans and the LEGO Indiana Jones community in terms of the world population is certainly not or no longer the largest today.

Then we'll get a teaser in January.

We're thinking that something is finally coming, scratching our fingers under the table, just wanting to say "Shut up and take my money"

Then we hear nothing for almost 1.5 months and then the wildest speculations, rumors and much more about the topic begin and LEGO doesn't say a word about it.

Again, it's a toy, just a toy. Of course there are more important and significant things in life, especially considering the many crises we have experienced in recent years and now.

But we, as fans, just want to enjoy the sets and have fun with them.

I'm in my mid-30s, husband, have 2 children and therefore more important things in life than LEGO or LEGO indiana jones, but I also have an AFOL connection with the topic and can't wait.
By the way, neither do my children :-D although they are both girls

And I think that's how it is for a lot of people here, whether young or old.

Adventure fans, or Indiana Jones fans, figure collectors or people who like to play.

And then it goes on like the last few weeks.

While all Star Wars fans have been allowed to play with their sets for almost 25 years, Harry Potter fans have been allowed to play with their sets for many years, etc.

That's frustrating.

So too dramatic?

Really? I don't think so :-D

[wesker]

44 minutes ago, Plissken said:

I don't buy the controversy-rumour. Like others said, all of these Sets held "problematic" stuff. I'm leaning more to a quality problem. Maybe some new part doesn't hold up over time, and the reschedule of the movie was a blessing to fix the error and release the set at a later time. 

I'm wondering if it has something to do with the stability of the build. Ever since I first saw the leaked image I've always thought the base of the model looked flimsy as hell and ready to collapse the moment you lift the set off the ground.

[Plissken]

19 minutes ago, DrHenryJonesJr said:

I wouldn't see it that dramatically.

To get back to the bottom of the facts: It's about a toy.

But we're fans, we've been waiting for almost 14 years to get something from Indiana Jones again, of any kind.
We know that LEGO only manages to launch series in connection with a film and the associated hype, if at all, and even then not always. Especially in the case of topics where it is questionable how much they generate for LEGO in terms of sales globally, since the LEGO community or the Indiana Jones fans and the LEGO Indiana Jones community in terms of the world population is certainly not or no longer the largest today.

Then we'll get a teaser in January.

We're thinking that something is finally coming, scratching our fingers under the table, just wanting to say "Shut up and take my money"

Then we hear nothing for almost 1.5 months and then the wildest speculations, rumors and much more about the topic begin and LEGO doesn't say a word about it.

Again, it's a toy, just a toy. Of course there are more important and significant things in life, especially considering the many crises we have experienced in recent years and now.

But we, as fans, just want to enjoy the sets and have fun with them.

I'm in my mid-30s, husband, have 2 children and therefore more important things in life than LEGO or LEGO indiana jones, but I also have an AFOL connection with the topic and can't wait.
By the way, neither do my children :-D although they are both girls

And I think that's how it is for a lot of people here, whether young or old.

Adventure fans, or Indiana Jones fans, figure collectors or people who like to play.

And then it goes on like the last few weeks.

While all Star Wars fans have been allowed to play with their sets for almost 25 years, Harry Potter fans have been allowed to play with their sets for many years, etc.

That's frustrating.

So too dramatic?

Really? I don't think so :-D

I'm a Fan, too. I've waited a long time to buy new stuff, too. And guess what? We all are going to be able to buy new Indy-merch in the coming months, even new Lego.

The Leaks are exactly this, leaks, never meant to see the light of day. It's great for us to see new pictures and speculate, but it's not Legos Job to reply to that.

I think they have their reveal planned and stick to it. Maybe it's in the last week of march and they reveal the first DoD set with it? We don't know and we won't change their plan with constant speculation about how bad they are treating this line.

All we know is, that we are getting three Sets at least. And that makes me happy.