Lego City 2022 Rumours, Leaks, Information And Discussion

[ks6349]

3 minutes ago, williejm said:

I think it was just in reference to the 4+ set (so not elephant one)

Agreed re Australian animals. South America, and Asia are also poorly represented in Lego animal terms.

Yes, the 4+ set (i.e. 60301) with only one lion is a bad choice ever, I have got the bigger sets (i.e. 60302 and 60307) and the smaller set (i.e. 60300) and simply skipped that 4+ set. I will not pay $30 for one lion.

[williejm]

22 minutes ago, ks6349 said:

Yes, the 4+ set (i.e. 60301) with only one lion is a bad choice ever, I have got the bigger sets (i.e. 60302 and 60307) and the smaller set (i.e. 60300) and simply skipped that 4+ set. I will not pay $30 for one lion.

It’s been on good discount here in the U.K. Regularly available for £20, which, for a set with a unique lion, unique printed python, a lion cub, and quite a bit of scenery ‘bits’ is pretty reasonable imho.

[ks6349]

39 minutes ago, williejm said:

It’s been on good discount here in the U.K. Regularly available for £20, which, for a set with a unique lion, unique printed python, a lion cub, and quite a bit of scenery ‘bits’ is pretty reasonable imho.

After all, 60302 and 60307 are the best.

[Lion King]

7 hours ago, williejm said:

Agreed re Australian animals. South America, and Asia are also poorly represented in Lego animal terms.

Agreed with you. I don’t know if black panther actually came from southeastern Asia (?) when it is introduced in Wildlife Rescue Mission. 

[TeriXeri]

38 minutes ago, DBlegonerd7 said:

Agreed with you. I don’t know if black panther actually came from southeastern Asia (?) when it is introduced in Wildlife Rescue Mission. 

Black Panther are a variant of either Jaguar (Central +South America) , or Leopard (Africa + Asia)

Original Leopard population certainly was all over South East Asia, everywhere outside of the Himalayas or Russia basicly.

Edited June 8, 2022 by TeriXeri

[TeriXeri]

8 hours ago, williejm said:

South America, and Asia are also poorly represented in Lego animal terms.

2017 jungle could've been both Asia or South America, except for the Tiger.

I do think eventually a new Jungle remake could still bring some new iconic animals for both regions (like Asian Elephant/Rhino species, Giant Panda, or Tapir)

Large apes like Orangutang for Asia, or Chimp/Gorilla for Africa as well.

And even Savannah could be easily revisited one day for Rhino, Buffalo, Giraffe, Hippo, and many antelopes (including Wildebeest, Impala, Gazelle, Eland, Waterbuck, Kudu) .

I think Australia is more due to be represented with Emu, Koala, Kangaroo etc.

Add more Ocean, Mountain, Artic species and LEGO could easily pick 100 unique larger animals they never made.

Edited June 8, 2022 by TeriXeri

[Lion King]

40 minutes ago, TeriXeri said:

Black Panther are a variant of either Jaguar (Central +South America) , or Leopard (Africa + Asia)

Original Leopard population certainly was all over South East Asia, everywhere outside of the Himalayas or Russia basicly.

Yeah. But we don’t know what kind of hare or owl are if they exist along with black panther in that wildlife rescue mission.

[TeriXeri]

21 minutes ago, DBlegonerd7 said:

Yeah. But we don’t know what kind of hare or owl are if they exist along with black panther in that wildlife rescue mission.

Probably Africa, South African Savannah has Leopards, Spotted Eagle owls and African Savannah Hare species.

 

Hares don't really live in South America, natively, outside of Mara (patagonian hare), which look quite different, especially no long ears, and closer related to guinea pig.

 

The printing does match African Spotted Eagle Owl a lot better then American Great Horned Owl as well.

 

Edited June 8, 2022 by TeriXeri

[Lion King]

20 minutes ago, TeriXeri said:

2017 jungle could've been both Asia or South America, except for the Tiger.

I do think eventually a new Jungle remake could still bring some new animals for both regions, but I'd rather see a Steppe/Outback/Desert before that.

Even Savannah has a lot of animals to go, Buffalo, Hippo, Rhino, 3 of the "big 5" , giraffe, many species of antelopes etc, or even Gorilla/Chimp if they do Jungle based on Africa.

2017 Jungle theme was definitely set in Asia, thanks to the tier. 

Not just savannah…. We still need gorilla from African rainforest with leopard, baboon, African forest elephant (probably recolored), hippo.

Just now, TeriXeri said:

Probably Africa, since Southeast Asia or South America does not have hares or big owls, while African Savannah has Leopards, Hares and big Eagle Owls.

@Roebuck @williejm, care to verify? 

[TeriXeri]

26 minutes ago, DBlegonerd7 said:

 

I edited my post, but since then I compared printing of the LEGO owl with the African Spotted Eagle Owl, and American Great Horned Owl, and the African species looks a lot closer match.

But yeah there are no big hares in South America, beside the ones introduced to Argentina by humans, and mara don't have the large ears.

For some reason even if I edit right away, I get my old posts quoted, not sure what's up with the site.

Edited June 8, 2022 by TeriXeri

[williejm]

If you look at the Lego species *specific* to the continents, very few exist only in Asia (tiger), Australia (none) or South America (toucan).
My reading of the open winged sand blue owl is that it’s based on an African species. you certainly have hares in Africa and Asia, but they’re not species anyone would associate with South America. Likewise no one thinks ‘owl’ when you say South America or Asia!

I can totally see why they prefer animals which are found in different parts of the world - so that they can be used in different settings, but when you look at the Lego animals which are very specific and recognisable at species (ish) level, then it’s clear that most of those are either North American or African. So, for example, you can kind of easily make up an ecosystem of animals from North America or Africa; but if you try and do the same with other continents then you have to rely on not-so-well-recognised species, or species with a wider range.

4 minutes ago, TeriXeri said:

I edited my post, but since then I compared printing of the LEGO owl with the African Spotted Eagle Owl, and American Great Horned Owl, and the African species looks a lot closer match.

But yeah there are no big hares in South America, beside the ones introduced to Argentina by humans, and mara don't have the large ears.

For some reason even if I edit right away, I get my old posts quoted, not sure what's up with the site.

Yeah those glitches are a pain. 

[TeriXeri]

If I had to pinpoint the wildlife mission to 1 area/country I'd say South Africa, which has nile crocodile, 2 species of eagle owl (1 matches the printing very well with the Spots), savannah hare, and leopards.

Which makes sense with the 2021 sets currently still sold, white lions are also mostly known from South Africa, Kruger Park Region.

 

Edited June 8, 2022 by TeriXeri

[williejm]

1 minute ago, TeriXeri said:

If I had to pinpoint the wildlife mission to 1 area/country I'd say South Africa, which has nile crocodile, 2 species of eagle owl, savannah hare, and leopards.

Which is interesting, as some of the promotional artwork had the cub as a dark puma variant (looked more dark brown than black, but deffo the puma), and that implies that the designers were thinking more N America, but that somehow it was switched to a black panther. 🤷🏽‍♂️

As I say, I totally get why they use some generic and wide ranging animals, or some that could be different species. But then they also do the very specific ones (toco toucan, striped skunk, bateleur eagle, South African white lion, great grey owl…) so … it’s a weird mix.

Anyways YES to more animals. YES to more useable prints and recolours of existing moulds. and if Lego need ideas on what animals we need … there’s a whole thread about it LOL 

[TeriXeri]

19 minutes ago, williejm said:

Which is interesting, as some of the promotional artwork had the cub as a dark puma variant (looked more dark brown than black, but deffo the puma), and that implies that the designers were thinking more N America, but that somehow it was switched to a black panther. 🤷🏽‍♂️

 

Yeah but Black Puma / Mountain Lion don't exist, they do feature in some movies (Dyed Black) but no documentation of actual natural ones.

I think LEGO just wanted to utilize the lion cub mould and made the black cub as a bonus.

I think a regular colored puma, jaguar or leopard cub would require a lot of specific very fine printing at such a small scale.

 

Edited June 8, 2022 by TeriXeri

[Lion King]

I guess Widlife Resuce Mission is set in African sene once again then. But I’m so glad we got black panther cub, hare, and owl figures!

I’m very interested in next subtheme in 2023. I feel like we would see a giraffe soon, thanks to Friends’ new set. In 2020, Freinds got an elephant calf and one year later, City got an elephant calf (wih normal eyes printed on it).

But no raccoon, llamma, panda in City yet when Freinds already has them. 

[williejm]

14 minutes ago, TeriXeri said:

Yeah but Black Puma / Mountain Lion don't exist, they do feature in some movies (Dyed Black) but no documentation of actual natural ones.

I think LEGO just wanted to utilize the lion cub mould and made the black cub as a bonus.

I think a regular colored puma, jaguar or leopard cub would require a lot of specific very fine printing at such a small scale.

I know, just pointing out that the design thinking couldn’t have been initially Africa. 

[dilligan]

13 hours ago, brimbolet said:

I just wish Lego makes some Australian animals one day.

They just recently made a duplo Koala, so there is hope.

[Roebuck]

 I think the widlife resuce mission set is just a parts pack so the animals could come from several different continents. I looks more to me that the designers sat down and looked at what new animal moulds we have that could be useful and made recolors of those then found the missions later:

1. Frog; designers love to use it and now they got it is a new color (3? new this year alone)
2. Black panther juvenile; we got the mould last year and it can go many years until we get a new set with a adult one in they could include it so it is very useful to include one here
3. Owl; the flying owl mould is rather new and there is a lot of colors we have not gotten it in yet so a no-brainer to include one here, very useful in other themes like HP also
4. Hare; we have wanting that in a more natural color since the mould came out so it is a great mould to include in this set
5. Adult crocogator; is something the kids love, easy to make missions with and pair well with the juvenile
6. Juvenile crocogator; have only been in CMF so far so make sense to include it in a new colour as well

Other animals that fit the bill:

1. Otter; was probably a choice between that and the hare, but the hare is more common and easily recognizable
2. Shark; lost to the croc since it is more land based that is a better option
3. Juvenile elephant; probably to big and expensive to include
4. Eagle; owl was probably a better fit in this set
5. Monkey; in several sets last year so maybe that is why they did not include it
6. could be more that I din not remember right now

[williejm]

Also - none of the animals in the Wildlife Missions set are the dual moulded ones, which some of the unused suggestions you make @Roebuck are. Presumably a considered cost ‘ production thing. 
 

Hope we get done more animal-heavy missions sets though!

[Roebuck]

1 hour ago, williejm said:

Hope we get done more animal-heavy missions sets though!

Yes it is a treasure chest of new animals
Maybe something from a farm or zoo setting could work

[Lion King]

8 minutes ago, Roebuck said:

Yes it is a treasure chest of new animals
Maybe something from a farm or zoo setting could work

Zoo set will do more beter.

[williejm]

6 minutes ago, Roebuck said:

Yes it is a treasure chest of new animals
Maybe something from a farm or zoo setting could work

Outback Mission🐨🦘🐍

Safari Mission🦓🐆🦩

Mountain Mission🐐🦅🐻

Forest Mission🐿🦡🦌

Farmyard Mission🐑🦃🐖

Deep Sea Mission🐙🦞🐟

Arctic Mission 🐻‍❄️🐇🦭

Kelp Forest Mission 🦦🐙🦈

 

I’m here all week …

 

[Roebuck]

10 minutes ago, williejm said:

I’m here all week …

[Lion King]

1 hour ago, williejm said:

Outback Mission🐨🦘🐍

Safari Mission🦓🐆🦩

Mountain Mission🐐🦅🐻

Forest Mission🐿🦡🦌

Farmyard Mission🐑🦃🐖

Deep Sea Mission🐙🦞🐟

Arctic Mission 🐻‍❄️🐇🦭

Kelp Forest Mission 🦦🐙🦈

 

I’m here all week … James Bond or Mission: Impossible style, yes?

 

Farmyard Mission? I can imagine an agent hides himself under a sheep’s fleece and spies on a corrupted farmer…

River Mission = beaver, otter, fawn :)

Edited June 9, 2022 by DBlegonerd7

[jonwil]

If they make any Australian animal, a Giraffe, a Hippo, a Gorilla or a Zebra in normal system style (not Duplo or Friends), the set that contains it will go right to the top of my list for sure.