Pattspatt Posted July 26, 2021 Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) Hi all - my second C-Model from Land Rover 42110 is complete. It's a helicopter, with full flight control & retractable landing gear. Functions: Cyclic & collective (using mixer by steph77) Co-pilot dummy cyclic & collective linked to main controls Tail rotor tilt, controlled by pedals or under passenger cabin (tail section of linkage by steph77) Rotor power with spring-loaded button, or gear on fuselage One-way clutch ensures main rotor can only turn counterclockwise Modular winch & DNR gearbox Retractable landing gear Front landing gear has suspension Sliding doors featuring a Scott-Russell linkage Stabilator with realistic (small) range of movement Video: The helicopter ended up pretty function-dense - here's the X-ray: The custom swashplate uses a method I haven't seen before - the red changeover catch allows the upper swashplate to slide up and down on the rotor axle (green), while still rotating with the green axle. The pink structure around it can tilt as necessary, to match the tilt of the lower swashplate (not pictured below). Since the swashplate surfaces aren't locked together except by gravity, you wouldn't be able to fly this helicopter upside down. My favorite function is the landing gear - while it may not be very realistic, the front landing gear linkage has a lot going on in order to allow both retraction and suspension. I also like that you don’t need to spin a linear actuator for 30 seconds - just push a button and woosh! Below is a detail of the front landing gear linkage extended (left) and retracted (right). The grey pieces are the mounting points. The other colors are to help track between left and right. There are more renders & explanations of other mechanisms in this model at https://m.imgur.com/gallery/5sYxvzE Free reverse teardown photos of this model will be posted in the next month or so. I had a great time designing this model - hope you enjoy! Edited July 27, 2021 by Pattspatt Quote
Bartybum Posted July 26, 2021 Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) Oh man this is incredible, great work I love cyclics Edited July 26, 2021 by Bartybum Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted July 26, 2021 Posted July 26, 2021 Why am I hearing the Airwolf theme...? Quote
sebulba56 Posted July 26, 2021 Posted July 26, 2021 The idea of a helicopter is both original and clever. The inventory and the colors of the original set match well with this idea. Otherwise the functions seem well executed, I like the landing gear's geometry. Quote
emielroumen Posted July 26, 2021 Posted July 26, 2021 Clever use of parts and intricate mechanics! Have not built a Lego helicopter at this scale, but would love to take apart my pimped up Landrover to do so! Quote
howitzer Posted July 26, 2021 Posted July 26, 2021 How is it that this set is spawning so many awesome alternate models, each apparently better than the original set? Great work! Quote
Johnny1360 Posted July 26, 2021 Posted July 26, 2021 Well with 2573 pieces, you have many options. This is a great moc and it is hard to believe you could add so many functions and make it look as good as it does. Excellent moc my friend. Quote
captainmib Posted July 26, 2021 Posted July 26, 2021 Well done! Really like the looks and the functions. You are correct on the landing gear being your favorite. It looks awesome. Quote
Celeri Posted July 27, 2021 Posted July 27, 2021 Not only do we see rather few helicopter sets or MOCs, but this one is just brilliant it its features' number and clever implementation... and furthermore, it is an alternate model. A true masterpiece, I will happily build it when possible! Quote
Hrafn Posted July 27, 2021 Posted July 27, 2021 Outstanding! I have so much respect for those of you who create such great alternate models from sets. Quote
GerritvdG Posted July 27, 2021 Posted July 27, 2021 Thanks you for sharing this wonderful alternate build. I really like the linkages and the detailed explanation. Need to buy the 42110! The URL seams to be wrong. I'll get an "Oops! We couldn't find that page" On 7/26/2021 at 2:45 PM, Pattspatt said: There are more renders & explanations of other mechanisms in this model at https://imgur.com/gallery/5sYxvzE. Quote
Gray Gear Posted July 27, 2021 Posted July 27, 2021 I really like this B-Model, well done! TLG will come banging on your door because it is an olive LEGO Helicopter with no "Rescue" markings Quote
Pattspatt Posted July 27, 2021 Author Posted July 27, 2021 Thanks everybody for your comments! 59 minutes ago, GerritvdG said: The URL seams to be wrong. I'll get an "Oops! We couldn't find that page" Oops, looks like the period at the end confused things. It should work now! 56 minutes ago, Gray Gear said: TLG will come banging on your door because it is an olive LEGO Helicopter with no "Rescue" markings That thought definitely crossed my mind! With 42110’s stickers applied, it’ll have “Defender” prominently displayed on the stabilator, which might be even more suggestive. I’ll leave the missiles for modders to figure out, though. Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted July 27, 2021 Posted July 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Gray Gear said: I really like this B-Model, well done! TLG will come banging on your door because it is an olive LEGO Helicopter with no "Rescue" markings As long as it doesn't mash up any gears, I think it's safe... Quote
Jeroen Ottens Posted July 27, 2021 Posted July 27, 2021 Wow! That is an incredible great B-model. I am always a sucker for aerospace vehicles and this one ticks a lot of like boxes: Functional flightcontrols, suspension in the landinggear, great overal shape. I have been wondering how to use the changeover catch for this purpose when I was building my helicopter, but I never figured out a way how to do it, so I am pleased to see it is possible after all Quote
steph77 Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 Second model i couldn't pass by and not comment. I am particulary impressed by the custom swashplate you've build. Reading your post, i agree with you, heli don't fly upside down and the end result is very impressive. Well done sir! Quote
Jundis Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 Completely forgot to comment here: What a fabulous beast, and even more so as a B/C-Model! To make a swash-plate with such limited parts is outstanding achievement. I wish there would be more plates to cover the tail a little more. Quote
Pattspatt Posted August 23, 2021 Author Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) On 7/27/2021 at 3:40 PM, Jeroen Ottens said: Wow! That is an incredible great B-model. I am always a sucker for aerospace vehicles and this one ticks a lot of like boxes: Functional flightcontrols, suspension in the landinggear, great overal shape. I have been wondering how to use the changeover catch for this purpose when I was building my helicopter, but I never figured out a way how to do it, so I am pleased to see it is possible after all Thanks very much! Yes, I think the swashplate idea is perhaps the only innovation here that might transfer well to other MOCs. It seems like most helicopter MOCs I’ve seen started designing the swashplate with a turntable and then work from there, which can be restrictive. Of course my approach certainly had its limitations, too. On 8/10/2021 at 1:35 AM, steph77 said: Second model i couldn't pass by and not comment. I am particulary impressed by the custom swashplate you've build. Reading your post, i agree with you, heli don't fly upside down and the end result is very impressive. Well done sir! Thank you! This helicopter owes a huge debt to your AH-77 Hunter. From what I’ve seen, your system for cyclic/collective mixing is the most elegant one out there. Thanks so much for making your work free! Once I’ve finished the free instructions for this model, my hope is they’ll help make fully-featured helicopter MOCs even more accessible. Maybe that’ll encourage some Technic innovation in this space, too. On 8/10/2021 at 4:29 AM, Jundis said: I wish there would be more plates to cover the tail a little more. Me too - the only option was white, but it was too boxy & certainly called attention to itself in that color. It’s fairly consistent with 9396, I guess. The silver lining is that the push-pull linkage movements can easily be seen in operation Edited August 23, 2021 by Pattspatt Quote
nerdsforprez Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 I see on your imgur page that instructions will be uploaded on rebrickable. I for sure would love to build this!! Quote
gyenesvi Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 That is pretty cool again, I really like the way you make use of your Defender set, always coming up with something unconventional. Since your models include very interesting mechanics, I wonder what your background is :) On 7/26/2021 at 8:14 PM, howitzer said: How is it that this set is spawning so many awesome alternate models The set has a really good selection of parts! Quote
suffocation Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 Oh wow, can't believe I missed this the first time round. What a superb B model! Quote
Pattspatt Posted August 24, 2021 Author Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, nerdsforprez said: I see on your imgur page that instructions will be uploaded on rebrickable. I for sure would love to build this!! Thanks! Looking forward to seeing your photos. The instructions (photo teardown) are 1-2 weeks away. Expect a fairly difficult build - but it will be free, at least! 14 hours ago, gyenesvi said: That is pretty cool again, I really like the way you make use of your Defender set, always coming up with something unconventional. Since your models include very interesting mechanics, I wonder what your background is :) Thanks! Glad you like it. One of the things I like most about Technic compared to System is how much you can do with a relatively narrow parts selection. I don’t have a formal MechE background, but my current work as a quality engineer touches on some mechanical ideas every now and then. Mostly Technic is an opportunity to be an amateur mechanical engineer, which has been a hobby for a long time. 14 hours ago, suffocation said: Oh wow, can't believe I missed this the first time round. What a superb B model! Thanks very much! Edited August 24, 2021 by Pattspatt Quote
gyenesvi Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pattspatt said: Mostly Technic is an opportunity to be an amateur mechanical engineer We are in the same boat then :) Quote
Pattspatt Posted September 9, 2021 Author Posted September 9, 2021 Free instructions are up! https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-87154/Pattspatt/helicopter-42110-c-model/#details So far feedback has been that they’re quite a bit easier to follow than the instructions for my 42110 forklift. Hope you enjoy! Quote
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