LEGO Star Wars 2022 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[The Stud]

2 minutes ago, Redroe said:

BD droid is just OK for a guy who hasn't played Fallen Order. 

I definitely recommend the game. While it might not be the most unique Star Wars story, it was still very good and had me super invested. I devoured through the game super fast and it’s one of the few games I’ve ever gone for the full 100%. It’s also just a very fun game with some cool locations.

 

Back to the N-1 discussion, I can’t help but wonder if the box for this set is going to use TBOBF branding like the Palace or The Mandalorian branding like the Dark Trooper Attack.

Also, if Lego does include a Krrsantan figure in a future set, I hope that he looks better than the Black Series one that just got revealed. It’s awful. 

[Redroe]

9 minutes ago, The Stud said:

I definitely recommend the game. While it might not be the most unique Star Wars story, it was still very good and had me super invested. I devoured through the game super fast and it’s one of the few games I’ve ever gone for the full 100%. It’s also just a very fun game with some cool locations.

Last off topic post I promise, but a large part of my wariness of it is because I absolutely loved the Force Unleashed, perhaps the biggest loss under Disney's axe, and FO seems to be its spiritual replacement. I loved that Vader and Anakin got secret apprentices in the same year (see. It rhymes) and the story enriched Vader and Palpatine's relationship more than any of Disney's stuff. But where Ahsoka grew wings, Starkiller was lost to time. 

Ok. Anyway. Back to topic. Agree that new droid mold must mean there is a FO set in the near future. Would have liked a pit droid or two mind. 

I see a few clearer Palace pics. They confirm my resolution to wait for a significant discount. Fingers crossed it isn't one of those sets that never sees such a discount. Sales seem immensely picky these days. Bad Batch shuttle is on sale constantly but try finding a Bo Katan Fighter for less than asking price, which has gone up in the UK by 20% this year!! Shocking. 

 

[PsychoBuilder]

I think Promobricks just said that the BD mold will be used for only the second set in the summer. I don’t normally want to just take random asides by leakers as absolute fact, but I guess this means no Fallen Order sets for now? At least none with BD-1.

Edited February 14, 2022 by Brickroll

[Mandalorianknight]

17 hours ago, ForgedInLego said:

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don't think Cobb Vanth is coming back, my guy. Even Hunter with his Commando armor could barely survive a hit from Cad Bane

 

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So boba's just keeping his dead body in the bacta tank, and hired that Mod surgeon to desecrate Cobb's corpse? 

12 hours ago, ToaDraco said:

Ha, yes you're right technically. For the PPP I certainly hope it has quite a few drumlaquered parts but we shall see. 

...Welp, unfortunately not. 

7 hours ago, MKJoshA said:

So I enjoyed BoBF. It wasn't the best SW thing ever, but better than the Sequels or Solo. That said, I agree with all of these critiques of the show:

I have Mod approval! . That said, it'd be remiss if I didn't immediately follow this up by ostracizing myself to everyone with my opinion that Solo is severely underrated and the 5th best SW film (sixth if you count Siege of Mandalore as a film)

 

 

That starfighter ain't it, chief. It honestly seems to me as if lego started building this just after the episode premiered. I love the in-universe ship, but this is a ROUGH design. It focuses too much on the greebles to the point that it seems much less sleek, the color mismatch is weird (I'm not saying it needed to be entirely silver, but the mocs have shown there are much better coloration solutions), and it really just seems flat and ugly. The figures aren't great either. Beskar Mando and Baby Yoda are fine, but c'mon, give the darksaber a new mold, or at least use the katana piece. Pelli is not great, either. Her hair is fine, but her head looks weird and her jumpsuit always seemed dark red to me, not brown. I will say, though, the BD-unit is awesome, and I can't wait for the BD-1 set.

[The Stud]

32 minutes ago, Redroe said:

Last off topic post I promise, but a large part of my wariness of it is because I absolutely loved the Force Unleashed, perhaps the biggest loss under Disney's axe, and FO seems to be its spiritual replacement. I loved that Vader and Anakin got secret apprentices in the same year (see. It rhymes) and the story enriched Vader and Palpatine's relationship more than any of Disney's stuff. But where Ahsoka grew wings, Starkiller was lost to time. 

Ok. Anyway. Back to topic. Agree that new droid mold must mean there is a FO set in the near future. Would have liked a pit droid or two mind. 

I see a few clearer Palace pics. They confirm my resolution to wait for a significant discount. Fingers crossed it isn't one of those sets that never sees such a discount. Sales seem immensely picky these days. Bad Batch shuttle is on sale constantly but try finding a Bo Katan Fighter for less than asking price, which has gone up in the UK by 20% this year!! Shocking. 

 

I wasn’t into Star Wars when TFU came out but from what I’ve seen of it, I’m not a huge fan. I prefer the idea of Vader leading the Inquisitorious rather than an apprentice and Cal Kestis is a better representation of the skill level of an average Jedi. Regardless, they both tell very different stories and Fallen Order is one of my favorite pieces of Star Wars content from the last few years!

Also, your comment about the prices of the Mandalorian Starfighter and Bad Batch Shuttle are very interesting because it seems to be the opposite here! The Mandalorian Fighter is easy to find on sale, while The Bad Batch Shuttle has never gone for less than full price.

 

31 minutes ago, Brickroll said:

I think Promobricks just said that the BD mold will be used for a second set in the summer. I don’t normally want to just take random asides by leakers as absolute fact, but I guess this means no Fallen Order sets for now? At least none with BD-1.

I think this just means that there’s only two sets that we currently know will include the new BD mold: this set and the buildable BD-1, which is a Fallen Order set. I would be shocked if that’s the only one we get, though we may not get anymore in this wave. (I’m still keeping fingers crossed for The Mantis as one of the unknown sets.)

15 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

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So boba's just keeping his dead body in the bacta tank, and hired that Mod surgeon to desecrate Cobb's corpse? 

I have Mod approval! . That said, it'd be remiss if I didn't immediately follow this up by ostracizing myself to everyone with my opinion that Solo is severely underrated and the 5th best SW film (sixth if you count Siege of Mandalore as a film)

I absolutely agree with you. I liked the Sequels, or at least Episodes 7 and 8, but Solo is probably my favorite of the newer films. Alden did a fantastic job playing a young Han Solo before becoming the jaded, experienced scoundrel we all know and love. The criticisms about all the big events from Han’s backstory happening in the same weekend are valid, but I still think the movie is a ton of fun. It’s honestly my favorite Star Wars movie just to rewatch or have on as background noise. It’s also my favorite Star Wars film after the OT, unless I’m including The Siege of Mandalore like you mentioned.

Now that we’re seeing pictures of a June set (unless the rumors/speculation that this thing will actually be releasing at Lego Stores in March end up being true), I hope we see the May Quote sets soon.

Edited February 14, 2022 by The Stud

[Kim-Kwang-Seok]

2 hours ago, BaalTheBuilder said:

The failure to mold - or even color-up an existing sword - to create a somewhat realistic darksaber is just laughable. Would have made me overlook the weird ship design choices.
 

Solid droid mold though.

this has always been a weird thing tough. Infinite discussion: weird 1-off molds for whatever but not for something like this. Like, the most recent interpretations of popular characters (Obi Wan) were still using super outdated hair pieces, despite there being like 10 better alternatives.

 

I almost want to congratulate the designers on their unique approach - never have I seen so many MOC-style building techniques. Ironically though the most important part of the N1 is the sleekness which is completely broken here, despite 2-3 more accurate proportions. The ultimate downer for me is the huge amount of dark grey though. Like how can you take a very light silver ship and make it so dark? Could have also been the concept art or Lego's rules about making non-UCS sets very colourful. I just think it would be a mess to modify this

Another question: does anyone see a fleshy head under the helmet? As there is no hairpiece I would doubt it but to me it doesn't look black (and yes I know lightning in these pictures is never giving you the correct impression).

Oh and: dark brown utility belt how cool!!

[MSY-MSP]

18 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

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So boba's just keeping his dead body in the bacta tank, and hired that Mod surgeon to desecrate Cobb's corpse? 

...Welp, unfortunately not. 

I have Mod approval! . That said, it'd be remiss if I didn't immediately follow this up by ostracizing myself to everyone with my opinion that Solo is severely underrated and the 5th best SW film (sixth if you count Siege of Mandalore as a film)

 

 

That starfighter ain't it, chief. It honestly seems to me as if lego started building this just after the episode premiered. I love the in-universe ship, but this is a ROUGH design. It focuses too much on the greebles to the point that it seems much less sleek, the color mismatch is weird (I'm not saying it needed to be entirely silver, but the mocs have shown there are much better coloration solutions), and it really just seems flat and ugly. The figures aren't great either. Beskar Mando and Baby Yoda are fine, but c'mon, give the darksaber a new mold, or at least use the katana piece. Pelli is not great, either. Her hair is fine, but her head looks weird and her jumpsuit always seemed dark red to me, not brown. I will say, though, the BD-unit is awesome, and I can't wait for the BD-1 set.

I happen to agree with you that Solo is severely underrated/underappreciated.  I think the problem it had was with the way it was made and the associated negative publicity.  I think folks immediately assumed that when Lord and Miller were let go that the film was doomed.  So they never gave it the chance that it deserved.  The story was good and there was real motivation in everything that occurred. It brings a lot to what influenced Han in the other movies.  In reality the current group of Star Wars fans get immediately upset or dislike a show simply because it didn't do what they wanted from it.   BoBF was the same way.  It told a story that had to be told in the way that it occurred.  Episodes 5 & 6 were necessary otherwise parts of Episode 7 simply wouldn't make any sense.  Yes those episodes were out of place for the series but essential for the story telling purposes.   The other thing they did was loop in all of the various characters and stories that are all intertwined in the new Star Wars world.

 

Now as for the N-1.  It looks ok to me.  Not great.   I think what Lego had to go with when they designed it was a basic back story on the craft.  It was all silver/grey and was pieced together on Tatooine in Peli's shop.  I think this is why it has the rough look to it.  Clearly they didn't just throw this set together.  They had some guidance, but maybe not to the level that they should have.  Now the price seems a bit steep.  But who knows what else might be in the set that hasn't been leaked.  Also for those who think Peli is too tall the legs look very plain to me and it seems easy enough to swap the full size legs for the medium legs of the same color.  I probably will hold off on buying this set until it shows up in teh local Costco.  

[QuiggoldsPegLeg]

And there goes another place where I thought I wouldn’t have to deal with people complaining about Star Wars. Can we not just celebrate what we enjoy about Star Wars and feel free to ignore what we don’t?

[The Stud]

19 minutes ago, QuiggoldsPegLeg said:

And there goes another place where I thought I wouldn’t have to deal with people complaining about Star Wars. Can we not just celebrate what we enjoy about Star Wars and feel free to ignore what we don’t?

I’m not sure what you mean? Several of the last few messages, including one of my own, have been saying good things about Solo, an unappreciated Star Wars film. It’s far better than other places online where you’re roasted alive for saying anything good about the sequels or a lot of the post-Disney content in general.

Most of the criticizing going on has to do with the Lego N-1 set anyway.

Edited February 14, 2022 by The Stud

[Clone OPatra]

45 minutes ago, MSY-MSP said:

BoBF was the same way.  It told a story that had to be told in the way that it occurred.

You can make this argument about anything and it holds no water. Nothing HAS to be told the way it is told if that way is illogical and detracts from the narrative, because it could've been written much better instead. If your story is so shoddy that you have to take a complete break from your main characters and story for two out of seven episodes, maybe write your story a different way.

You could say the same thing about Rise of Skywalker: "well it had to be told like that because of course Rey, Poe and Finn had to go to the place to get the thing that tells them to go to the other place to get the next thing which sends them to the next place to learn about the next thing". OR spend a bit longer on the script and don't do that.

Book of Boba Fett makes Solo look like a Criterion Classic. Solo had great propulsive action and set pieces, real stakes at times, characters and motivations that made good clear sense, and fantastic Star Wars world building. And besides Solo himself, it didn't feel the need to connect into everything else or bring in Jedi for corporate synergy.

Plus Solo got a whole raft of excellent LEGO sets.

 

Haven't seen anyone else mention, but is JB Spielwaren teasing a Rancor set? They have a countdown on their story to New Star Wars sets, with a quote about a Rancor. I guess we'll find out in 18 hours.

[Nobricksleft]

19 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Speaking of the BD-1 set, though, I do wonder about customization. Parts for multiple color schemes is unlikely, but it would be cool if the little upgrades he gets throughout the game were modular segments you could add or remove.

Did anyone say Powered Zipline!

N-1 is a miss AFAIC. While recognizable the design was probably rushed. In this state it is overpriced. Regardless, I will get it to build a "Quote" scene with Peli and her ex-boyfriend: "Oh, that's okay. I'm working on me right now. Just go find the parts. (to Din): Furry."

I enjoyed BoBF very much.

[Gremer2]

The N1 is at least on par with about half the MOCs that came out after the episode, and honestly it's just very average. Def waiting for a sale though, that price is stupid

[ToaDraco]

I really like the N-1, it's far from perfect but it it's best N-1 we've gotten yet in terms of accuracy to the overall shape. It's absolutely overpriced  and definitely needed more drumlaquered silver pieces. Pelli looks great, I don't mind that hair piece, it's better than the affro piece for sure. I also like that she has the utility belt piece. I really hate that they refuse to give us a proper Darksaber. A plain black katana would be better than this... sigh. I appreciate that Din has a jetpack but he's missing his cape. If they can manage to make OT Boba Fett with a jetpack and shoulder cape, there's no excuse why they can't do the same for Din Djarrin. I LOVE the BD droid mold! It looks so good and I can't wait to get it in more colors, LEGO pleeaase give us proper Fallen Order sets soon!

[NoOneOfImportance]

9 minutes ago, ToaDraco said:

A plain black katana would be better than this... sigh. I appreciate that Din has a jetpack but he's missing his cape. If they can manage to make OT Boba Fett with a jetpack and shoulder cape, there's no excuse why they can't do the same for Din Djarrin. 

Honestly, LEGO just needs to use the mini-hilt katana from the Ninjago weapons packs connected to a lightsaber blade (I saw someone do this in a MOC. The problem is that it requires putting the whole weapon pack into the set unnecessarily.) 

The cape factor is different between Mando and Boba though, as Boba's cape goes beside the jetpack so it doesn't get in the way of the pack laying across the figure's back. In this case, the rigid point of the cape (at least the old style cape) would interfere with the jetpack, and, in any case, the jetpack may not be able to lay as flat across the back, creating tension across the neck connector that I think LEGO wants to avoid. 

[ForgedInLego]

3 minutes ago, NoOneOfImportance said:

The cape factor is different between Mando and Boba though, as Boba's cape goes beside the jetpack so it doesn't get in the way of the pack laying across the figure's back. In this case, the rigid point of the cape (at least the old style cape) would interfere with the jetpack, and, in any case, the jetpack may not be able to lay as flat across the back, creating tension across the neck connector that I think LEGO wants to avoid. 

There is one style of cape that could work, the one Darth Malgus had. It only has one hole, allowing it to sit flat under his neck piece, and I'm assuming it would fit under a jetpack. Personally, I think this kind of cape doesn't look as good, and I'm not a fan of using cloth parts when they aren't necessary, as they wear out relatively quick

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, Nobricksleft said:

Did anyone say Powered Zipline!

N-1 is a miss AFAIC. While recognizable the design was probably rushed. In this state it is overpriced. Regardless, I will get it to build a "Quote" scene with Peli and her ex-boyfriend: "Oh, that's okay. I'm working on me right now. Just go find the parts. (to Din): Furry."

I enjoyed BoBF very much.

Yeah, and the scomp link and processing units too!

Honestly the set is so overpriced it's crazy. I thought the grievous starfighter did poorly, did it really sell well enough lego thought it a net profit gain to do this?

57 minutes ago, ToaDraco said:

 I can't wait to get it in more colors, LEGO pleeaase give us proper Fallen Order sets soon!

We know a BD-1 set is coming, but c'mon, a mantis would sell like hotcakes. I made a Zeffo temple set awhile back as a prototype for how lego could make fallen order sets, and it helped me see how much playability they could fit into a FO playset between wall-running, force pushing/pulling, rope swinging, hidden chests, etc. (My prototypes are in spoiler just for space reasons:

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[Kdapt-Preacher]

2 hours ago, QuiggoldsPegLeg said:

And there goes another place where I thought I wouldn’t have to deal with people complaining about Star Wars. Can we not just celebrate what we enjoy about Star Wars and feel free to ignore what we don’t?

Why on earth would you think a Star Wars forum wouldn't have people complaining about Star Wars? If people don't talk about aspects that they don't like, how would anything ever improve? That goes for any topic, not just Star Wars. Anything you aren't allowed to criticize isn't fandom, it's religion.

 

I use the blue and white skin for BD-1 in Fallen Order anyway, so for my own part I'm delighted to see the blue one here first. Presumably the default skin will come out at some later point. Although I do feel the need to point out that that hasn't always held--I had figured CB-23 would be low-hanging fruit to include in one of the Resistance sets since they'd gone to the trouble of making three new molds for BB series droids by that point, but apparently not. You never can tell.

[Kit Figsto]

3 hours ago, NoOneOfImportance said:

The cape factor is different between Mando and Boba though, as Boba's cape goes beside the jetpack so it doesn't get in the way of the pack laying across the figure's back. In this case, the rigid point of the cape (at least the old style cape) would interfere with the jetpack, and, in any case, the jetpack may not be able to lay as flat across the back, creating tension across the neck connector that I think LEGO wants to avoid. 

Yeah, I think if you put a cape on the neck then put a jetpack piece over it, that would end up tearing the cape off at the neck relatively quickly.  The Boba Fett one works because they can make it angled at the end (from the reference pictures I can find, it wasn't that angular, but because of where it falls, it appears more triangular), but Mando's looks just like a normal cape when he's wearing it, so there's no real way to include both the jetpack and cape.

[ToaDraco]

19 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Yeah, and the scomp link and processing units too!

Honestly the set is so overpriced it's crazy. I thought the grievous starfighter did poorly, did it really sell well enough lego thought it a net profit gain to do this?

We know a BD-1 set is coming, but c'mon, a mantis would sell like hotcakes. I made a Zeffo temple set awhile back as a prototype for how lego could make fallen order sets, and it helped me see how much playability they could fit into a FO playset between wall-running, force pushing/pulling, rope swinging, hidden chests, etc. (My prototypes are in spoiler just for space reasons:

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Those look great! There's so much potential in making Fallen Order sets. Hopefully the $100 BD-1 is just the start. I assume the BD-1 figure that comes with it will have red markings instead of the blue that is in the N-1 Starfighter set since that's the default color scheme for him.

[Redroe]

8 hours ago, Kim-Kwang-Seok said:

. The ultimate downer for me is the huge amount of dark grey though. Like how can you take a very light silver ship and make it so dark

Same rule as the Mandalorian Helmet set has been applied, but less successfully. Use of different shades to represent the light catching at different angles, see the designer interviews. However using the dark grey for large flat surfaces like the wings results in too dark a look overall. 

Funnily enough I thought the same about the Razor crest, I didn't like the colour blocking on that either. My own MOC is entirely dark grey with some pearl grey for highlights. The environments of the show generally make the reflective surfaces appear darker than they are.

Which brings me to the pearl grey, I'm a bit resentful of the relatively new drum lacquered pieces as they probably limit the amount of future pearl grey molds we could have got? Also, the pearl colours tend to have a really obvious flow mark or sprue on the molding, cos they are more transparent with additives in, so they look a bit odd, my RC uses 4 curved slopes in a row and they each have the same wobbly V shape mark in them, creating a weird pattern effect.

End of lecture. Went on a bit there.

 

[Stuartn]

My guess is the new droid is going to only be used in the N1 and statue, and maybe the advent calendar, it must be remembered that the D-0 mould wasn’t used in other sets, and the most I’d expect is it to be included in a sandcrawler in a couple of years.

[T21Typhoon]

24 minutes ago, Stuartn said:

My guess is the new droid is going to only be used in the N1 and statue, and maybe the advent calendar, it must be remembered that the D-0 mould wasn’t used in other sets, and the most I’d expect is it to be included in a sandcrawler in a couple of years.

D-0 was also present in the TRoS Millennium Falcon and Y-Wing sets. I can’t imagine a minifigure scale BD-1 has been produced without any JFO sets in the pipeline, perhaps next year.

Lego’s reticence at not producing a proper darkaber mould is baffling. I suppose the current solution does the job, but given it’s already been in 2 recent sets, not to mention its inevitable appearance in the Mandalorian Season 3 sets, you’d think the LSW team would put a bit more effort in. 

@Clone OPatra Absolutely agree with your comments on the Solo sets, I felt they were some of the strongest LSW set waves we’ve had and they were filled to the brim with new minifigure moulds  Interested to see what JB Spielwaren have up their sleeves, their IG countdown ends in just under 7 hours. 

As cool as a rancor set would be, I sincerely hope Lego don’t go all in with TBoBF and allocates some sets for other upcoming shows too. 

Edited February 15, 2022 by T21Typhoon

[Kim-Kwang-Seok]

4 hours ago, Redroe said:

Same rule as the Mandalorian Helmet set has been applied, but less successfully. Use of different shades to represent the light catching at different angles, see the designer interviews. However using the dark grey for large flat surfaces like the wings results in too dark a look overall. 

Funnily enough I thought the same about the Razor crest, I didn't like the colour blocking on that either. My own MOC is entirely dark grey with some pearl grey for highlights. The environments of the show generally make the reflective surfaces appear darker than they are.

Which brings me to the pearl grey, I'm a bit resentful of the relatively new drum lacquered pieces as they probably limit the amount of future pearl grey molds we could have got? Also, the pearl colours tend to have a really obvious flow mark or sprue on the molding, cos they are more transparent with additives in, so they look a bit odd, my RC uses 4 curved slopes in a row and they each have the same wobbly V shape mark in them, creating a weird pattern effect.

End of lecture. Went on a bit there.

 

no lecture, just your interesting opinion

Could you show pictures of your Crest? I would have preferred it in dark grey but as many parts were colour fixed I remodified it 99,99% into light grey with only a few dark grey and black texture. I think dark grey also mixes much better with gun metal grey parts while light grey and the few light silver pieces we've got looks a bit cheap together.

[Childish Goblino]

On 2/14/2022 at 12:42 PM, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Really? Imo she's one of the most irritating Star Wars characters in general.

I agree she's pretty irritating sometimes but I think that just endears me to her. It helps that I think she's a pretty decent version of the trope she's embodying, her tangents and off hand comments are actually pretty funny sometimes imo.

I think she looks like a pretty good mini-fig too although I didn't know that when I originally replied.

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[MaximillianRebo]

For the price, the N-1 Starfighter really needs something extra, and apart from being Mando's new ride, and a prequel call back, it's lacking. No silver pieces, no side build. I get that Lego wanted to include a jetpack, and that Mando can't fit in the cockpit wearing said jetpack, so it needs somewhere to be stored so it doesn't get lost under the sofa, but I think removing that storage compartment and shortening the length by about four studs would go a long way to improving the scale issues. At the moment the cockpit seems way too far back from the nose of the ship. The wings are lacklustre too - I don't have a problem with studs, but maybe some greebling or slopes to add contour, otherwise they stand out as a bit plain. The BD mould is something to get excited about, but that alone can't justify the high price. Anyway enough nitpicking, gonna save my money for the Horizon Forbidden West Tallneck instead