42130 - BMW M1000RR K66

[Milan]

11 hours ago, Bartybum said:

The suspension travel could be better on the rear axle though tbh

I believe the travel is too large, though, if we are talking about the same thing.
You mean the range of motion of the rear suspension?

3 hours ago, kbalage said:

for me the stepper worked super reliably.

Same here. Never managed to get it stuck, or to miss a gear, nor had a hard time engaging a gear.

[keymaker]

22 minutes ago, Milan said:

Same here. Never managed to get it stuck, or to miss a gear, nor had a hard time engaging a gear.

Watching reviews I have strong feeling, that maybe some people are 100% sure that if something doesn't work as smooth as it should, it is definitely construction or/and designer fault. Some people do not allow such thought to their mind, that they could make some mistake during assembling (for example left some parts squeezed to much where they should be loosely connected).

[Bartybum]

1 hour ago, Milan said:

You mean the range of motion of the rear suspension?

Actually no I'll retract that. From Sariel's review the rear suspension travel is fine, it's just the sagging front axle that reduces the available travel on the rear axle.

[allanp]

1 hour ago, keymaker said:

Watching reviews I have strong feeling, that maybe some people are 100% sure that if something doesn't work as smooth as it should, it is definitely construction or/and designer fault. Some people do not allow such thought to their mind, that they could make some mistake during assembling (for example left some parts squeezed to much where they should be loosely connected).

It could be builder error, that's usually my first assumption. But Sariel has built one or two sets before, he also wrote a few books, so it doesn't seem likely in this case. But then others are saying it's fine. Maybe it's slightly looser belts in sariels copy or some unseen mould flashing/abnormalities or something? 

[eric trax]

Regret, sorrow, millions of broken women's hearts.

 

I thought about Sariel and RacingBrick's review for two days, because I was waiting for this set a lot. But when I saw the pictures, my hands just dropped. I have two theories. The first is that LEGO has such a rank in the market that it will sell any branded poop as a set, or the second is that the people at BMW who approved it were drunk.

I can't take my eyes off this mega massive, heavy and completely out of proportion front. The front wheel looks as if the springs in the front suspension have failed. How can such massive front spoilers be built? I know it's a big model but it looks funny. The fairing on the front wheel is also too large.

I was going to buy this model for a work shelf, but I don't know if getting nervous while looking at it in the office will have a positive effect on my performance. I will skip the issues of falling off elements or bending front forks. Why do I have the impression that this is a very delicate model? It falls apart just by touching. The rear wheel stand does not actually stabilize the motorcycle.

And finally. Now it will probably be the norm next years. What does the Lego company do when the model does not look completely? Prints a sheet of 124523814 stickers and disguises strange solutions and lazy building. I would understand it if the fairings were very neat like on a Ducati motorcycle. This is not the case here. For quite some time now quite a few models built this way. How long is this company going to make idiots out of its customers?

It breaks my heart because I really wanted to buy this motorcycle. Do not write to me, please build better because I am not creating an exclusive model for 200 euro, because for a BMW sticker.

I'll stay with my Ducati. It's smaller and that's where it was possible to make a cool looking and durable model.

The rims, rear shock and windshield are beautiful.

Edited December 10, 2021 by eric trax

[Ngoc Nguyen]

This is the end of bag 1, and it's already gotten out of hand. Zetros for scale.

 

 

My feeling during the build can be summed up with this.

 

 

Replace "drop of blood" with "a 3rd speed"

[A_C]

16 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

This is the end of bag 1, and it's already gotten out of hand. Zetros for scale.

It's really big. Do you mind let us know where to get the instruction?

[A_C]

On 12/11/2021 at 12:51 AM, eric trax said:

Regret, sorrow, millions of broken women's hearts.

 

I thought about Sariel and RacingBrick's review for two days, because I was waiting for this set a lot. But when I saw the pictures, my hands just dropped. I have two theories. The first is that LEGO has such a rank in the market that it will sell any branded poop as a set, or the second is that the people at BMW who approved it were drunk.

I can't take my eyes off this mega massive, heavy and completely out of proportion front. The front wheel looks as if the springs in the front suspension have failed. How can such massive front spoilers be built? I know it's a big model but it looks funny. The fairing on the front wheel is also too large.

I was going to buy this model for a work shelf, but I don't know if getting nervous while looking at it in the office will have a positive effect on my performance. I will skip the issues of falling off elements or bending front forks. Why do I have the impression that this is a very delicate model? It falls apart just by touching. The rear wheel stand does not actually stabilize the motorcycle.

And finally. Now it will probably be the norm next years. What does the Lego company do when the model does not look completely? Prints a sheet of 124523814 stickers and disguises strange solutions and lazy building. I would understand it if the fairings were very neat like on a Ducati motorcycle. This is not the case here. For quite some time now quite a few models built this way. How long is this company going to make idiots out of its customers?

It breaks my heart because I really wanted to buy this motorcycle. Do not write to me, please build better because I am not creating an exclusive model for 200 euro, because for a BMW sticker.

I'll stay with my Ducati. It's smaller and that's where it was possible to make a cool looking and durable model.

The rims, rear shock and windshield are beautiful.

I guess the out of proportion issue is the rear suspension (new part?) is too strong. The rear part is way too 'up'. Maybe they forgot the body is too light?

It's too hard to have everything beautiful without making new parts.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

2 hours ago, A_C said:

It's really big. Do you mind let us know where to get the instruction?

I don't have it. I'm just following Sariel's speed build.

[A_C]

2 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

I don't have it. I'm just following Sariel's speed build.

Oh I see, thanks.

[allanp]

On 12/11/2021 at 10:29 AM, Ngoc Nguyen said:

This is the end of bag 1, and it's already gotten out of hand. Zetros for scale.

My feeling during the build can be summed up with this.

Replace "drop of blood" with "a 3rd speed"

Soooo, there is room for something like this?

Of course this a non functional sketch build, but you get the idea.

Edited December 12, 2021 by allanp

[nerdsforprez]

On 12/10/2021 at 9:28 AM, allanp said:

It could be builder error, that's usually my first assumption. But Sariel has built one or two sets before, he also wrote a few books, so it doesn't seem likely in this case. But then others are saying it's fine. Maybe it's slightly looser belts in sariels copy or some unseen mould flashing/abnormalities or something? 

Not sure what you mean here.  Anyone,  no matter their experience level,  can make errors,  especially when they are rushed to meet some deadline.  Which....and I'm not trying to throw shade Sariel's direction (I feel enough of that has been done already), he had admitted several times he needs to do for viewers.  And builders errors don't have to be huge to gum up a lego transmission. Too much friction here, a pin sticking out a little too much there....and viola!!! You have problems in your gearbox....

[allanp]

@nerdsforprez True true.

[nerdsforprez]

46 minutes ago, allanp said:

@nerdsforprez True true.

  You know.... this makes me think....but of a response better suited for your "Technic is just for kids thread..." so I am posting there...

 

 

[msk6003]

Like other motorcycle wheel, this wheel's weight lean to outside. Can we use it as gyroscope to build 2 wheel balanced vehicle?

[steph77]

On 12/11/2021 at 11:29 AM, Ngoc Nguyen said:

This is the end of bag 1, and it's already gotten out of hand. Zetros for scale.

My feeling during the build can be summed up with this.

Replace "drop of blood" with "a 3rd speed"

Exactly the same.

When you think that a 4speeds can stand in this volume...Ok, it is not one inline 4, but i got this feeling that 'making it big makes it good.' is the new lego guideline....

[howitzer]

1 hour ago, steph77 said:

Exactly the same.

When you think that a 4speeds can stand in this volume...Ok, it is not one inline 4, but i got this feeling that 'making it big makes it good.' is the new lego guideline....

<snip>

4 speed is relatively easy to fit in small space though, because the wave selector enables such a thing, 6 speeds is going to be much larger - unless new parts were developed. That would be nice of course, but there were already other parts to be developed for this set and they were such that it couldn't have been done without them.

[steph77]

1 hour ago, howitzer said:

4 speed is relatively easy to fit in small space though, because the wave selector enables such a thing, 6 speeds is going to be much larger - unless new parts were developed. That would be nice of course, but there were already other parts to be developed for this set and they were such that it couldn't have been done without them.

This wasn't exactly my point.

I am ok with a 3+N gearbox, as building a 6+n is likely impossible, and maybe not that usefull.

I am not OK for the overpricing on a set if the design doesn't offer something really worth it.

And i cannot see any good reason to release a that big set. It appeared to be even not playable for me.

Edited December 13, 2021 by steph77

[howitzer]

19 minutes ago, steph77 said:

This wasn't exactly my point.

I am ok with a 3+N gearbox, as building a 6+n is likely impossible, and maybe not that usefull.

I am not OK for the overpricing on a set if the design doesn't offer something really worth it.

And i cannot see any good reason to release a that big set. It appeared to be even not playable for me.

I believe the reason for the scale is simply that they intend to start a new line of large motorcycle sets, and this being the first of those comes with very little functional improvement over previous motorcycle sets, but it just introduces new parts necessary to get the line started. Hopefully the next motorcycle will have better technical features.

[2GodBDGlory]

4 hours ago, howitzer said:

I believe the reason for the scale is simply that they intend to start a new line of large motorcycle sets, and this being the first of those comes with very little functional improvement over previous motorcycle sets, but it just introduces new parts necessary to get the line started. Hopefully the next motorcycle will have better technical features.

I guess we can hope! The 2016 Porsche 911 could be seen as an analogue in starting a line, and was itself considerably less functional than its successors.

[Scoar Sonander]

13 hours ago, steph77 said:

Exactly the same.

When you think that a 4speeds can stand in this volume...Ok, it is not one inline 4, but i got this feeling that 'making it big makes it good.' is the new lego guideline....

*snip*

Do you have any instructions or other pictures of this gearbox?

[imvanya]

1 hour ago, Scoar Sonander said:

Do you have any instructions or other pictures of this gearbox?

In his video review, @desert752 dedicated a whole section to the gear box. The video is in Russian, but there are quite a bit of angles with most of the gears exposed, so it may still be useful:

 

Edited December 13, 2021 by imvanya

[amorti]

On 12/13/2021 at 8:35 AM, steph77 said:

Exactly the same.

When you think that a 4speeds can stand in this volume...Ok, it is not one inline 4, but i got this feeling that 'making it big makes it good.' is the new lego guideline....



It's nice, that. Stacked gearbox, like the first R1 introduced to the world, which allowed the engine to be shorter, the swingarm to be longer, and the handling to be betterer.

Are we still waiting til March to get this as non-exclusive?

I can't quite bring myself to give 200€ for this, but I want it just for the wheels and forks.

[Zerobricks]

I've just started building this set and it's a really massive and very interconnected build, I feel taking it apart will be a bit like the famous AT-AT situation, especially around the area of the small turntables.

I also noticed that the rubber band for the shifting mechanism is constantly rubbing against a spinning axle... It's a bit sad because they could have attached the rubber band to the #3 orange connecotrs differently and avoid this problem.

[nerdsforprez]

9 hours ago, amorti said:

but I want it just for the wheels and forks

I hate to bring this up, but alas, I feel it necessary.  Other competitors have made new, unique pieces available at a huge reduced price with little, if any, compromises on quality.  I have the planetary hubs, reinforced CV steering joints, wave selector, etc. and others without the huge cost.  I am keeping an eye out.  I have not seen them  yet, but I would not be surprised......