42130 - BMW M1000RR K66

[Gray Gear]

9 minutes ago, LvdH said:

It's 9 studs long with 1.5 studs of travel. 

Damn. I doubt they'll be much use to me then. The hood is generally only ~10 studs high in that area so mounting a 9L shock seems problematic for a "normal" car.

Might be useful for some exotics, mounted horizontally like in a pushrod style suspension system, or for offroad cars that are just higher in general.

Edited December 9, 2021 by Gray Gear

[Milan]

Reviewers sometimes use gloves to avoid leaving fingerprints on the parts. It is much cleaner that way, albeit uncomfortable. Tried it.

[1340cc]

Only 3 gears and the rear wheel being the same mold as the front just with a wider tyre on it are a bit disappointing but otherwise it looks good. NZ price compared to USA is a pleasant surprise too, $330NZ/$230US. Usually we have to pay $350NZ for $200US sets.

[allanp]

13 minutes ago, Milan said:

Reviewers sometimes use gloves to avoid leaving fingerprints on the parts. It is much cleaner that way, albeit uncomfortable. Tried it.

Yup, I think he said in a review it was because of finger prints.

As for the set, I've left my comments in the review topic.

Edited December 9, 2021 by allanp

[astyanax]

14 minutes ago, Milan said:

Reviewers sometimes use gloves to avoid leaving fingerprints on the parts. It is much cleaner that way, albeit uncomfortable. Tried it.

He wants to avoid leaving finger prints so that we can see all the pet hair even better...

[LvdH]

24 minutes ago, Milan said:

Reviewers sometimes use gloves to avoid leaving fingerprints on the parts. It is much cleaner that way, albeit uncomfortable. Tried it.

I believe this is the actual reason he started using them, if I'm not mistaken the first time he did it was in the '89 Batmobile, aka the fingerprint magnet. 

[GerritvdG]

34 minutes ago, nerdsforprez said:

COVID I think folks.  He has been using them now for a while....

You're right, see the pinned comments on his LEGO 10271: Fiat 500: In-depth Review & Speed Build

 

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Yes, I'm wearing gloves. It's up to 30,000 new COVID cases daily outside and I have a little baby at home. I'm sorry if being a responsible parent offends your conspiracy theories.

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Avoiding the fingerprints is an added bonus :)

Now back to the subject 

Edited December 9, 2021 by GerritvdG

[monaghanman]

So, 8 new parts in total? Unprecedented? 

[TeamThrifty]

29 minutes ago, GerritvdG said:

Yes, I'm wearing gloves. It's up to 30,000 new COVID cases daily outside and I have a little baby at home. I'm sorry if being a responsible parent offends your conspiracy theories

Seems a perfectly reasonable reason to me.... not sure why the narky comment on the end was needed though?

[amorti]

2 hours ago, TeamThrifty said:

Seems a perfectly reasonable reason to me.... not sure why the narky comment on the end was needed though?

You've nit met Sariel then.

He pretty much left here in a huff about being picked up on being unfriendly to newbies, and many less new other users.

[2GodBDGlory]

4 hours ago, monaghanman said:

So, 8 new parts in total? Unprecedented? 

Possibly!

I'm definitely excited to get my hands on some of these parts. Obviously the wheels are nice and open up new possibilities, but I think the rear shock could be a lot of fun to use as well. A harder spring like it could be very useful, but I hope its size doesn't limit its use too much. The front shocks don't seem to have many applications other than the forks of very large motorcycles, but are still very cool. The hub parts again look quite specialized, but I see them as a very interesting option for MacPherson strut suspensions on cars. Simply slot a 6.5L shock into the slot upside-down and the trickiest part is done! The lower ball joint could be annoying to attach, though, and you couldn't set any kingpin inclination without also adding camber. I still wonder how it would work there. The brake discs and windshield don't excite me as much, but are obviously high quality.

[1gor]

@Milan is right about fingertips; human fingers are greasy and the live unpleasant "print" on glossy surface

...and you should really stop titling everything that is thinking plausibly to be "conspiracy theory"; like CIA that invented this when people start asking (based on official report) how is possible that Lee Harvey Oswald's bullet changes direction in thin air?

[TeamThrifty]

39 minutes ago, 1gor said:

bullet changes direction in thin air

You mean thats not what happened?!!🤣 Next you'll be telling Marylin Monroe really did commit suicide and was murdered by the Kennedy's!!🙄🙊

[derekthetree]

Looks nice, shame about the millions of stickers.

I've got a big pile to still build so will be a sale grab.

[FlyingFordFalcon]

I'll be grabbing this one even though I'm not that interested in the real bike itself. I like the look of the new wheels, the forks look a little too thick but cool that they allow for front fender and brake caliper parts to be mounted directly. Will probably end up buying some of the parts individually too - the gold chain in particular is a neat touch though now I wish they had done silver one for the Ducati (same colour as exhaust macaroni pieces) and also the windscreen, so long as the white is a sticker and not a print. Clever use of the brake disc they created for the Ducati as the smaller rear brake disc on this bike too.

 

One thing I'm not sure about is how much system pieces seem to be on it. It's good that they are trying harder to shape the tail section but I don't understand what's going on with the right side of the crankcase?

 

$320 in my local currency seems a bit steep too, if I worked it out right that's 16 cents a piece but of course proportionally the multiple new parts are the cause of this.

[howitzer]

11 hours ago, Nazgarot said:

+1

A reintroduction of flex would be a great way to solve brakes with "new" parts. I feel Technic was a lot more innovative in the -90s.

_ED_

Technic indeed was really innovative in the 90's, and that's true for other themes too. The company nearly went bankrupt for it, so even if that was a great time to be a fan of Lego, I think we're better off with the current management where they don't develop tons of new parts which are more expensive to manufacture than they can be sold for.

As for the bike, my immediate reaction is impressed, and I'm loving the plethora of new parts and recolours. I'm not a bike person though, so I'm probably not going buy it.

[Bartybum]

Gotta say, I’m pretty impressed by it, even if it’s missing the side view mirrors. I’m a fan of the stepper gearbox. The suspension travel could be better on the rear axle though tbh. I’d be really tempted to get it on sale if I was in a position to

[thekoRngear]

10 hours ago, Bartybum said:

Gotta say, I’m pretty impressed by it, even if it’s missing the side view mirrors. I’m a fan of the stepper gearbox. The suspension travel could be better on the rear axle though tbh. I’d be really tempted to get it on sale if I was in a position to

If you watch Sariel's review you'll see the stepper does not work well for him, it jams. The super flimsy state of this bike also affects when the suspension is in work. And proves it actually is not meant to be played around, but that is (sadly) okay for newer consumers.

Personally I think if someone wants great building experience with challenging sticker applying where a stand is used for the first time with display priorities, then this set is great. Some may not agree but to me, this is part two of last year's 488 GT Flexari. Maybe we will see a different vehicle this time next year. Howevr, this set, no matter what, will continue to appeal large amount of people and from there TLG might make this a regular one like 1:8 UCS supercars. They improved stuffs iteration over iteration yet the 1:8 remain primarily display queens. The bike seems to follow that route.

Edited December 10, 2021 by thekoRngear

[Bartybum]

29 minutes ago, thekoRngear said:

yet the 1:8 remain primarily display queens.

Regardless of improvements, 1:8 cars are shelf queens anyway. They’re terribly unwieldy.

[Jundis]

Actually, I am not convinced by this. Not the looks (2 A4 sticker sheets), nor the technic (no 6 speed gearbox) or the stability.

The only good thing in my opinion is the rewarding building experience, which actually is a really nice idea. 

[blondasek]

Big no for me, only because of the stickers - this thing will look terrible in a few years. And it does not look even half good without them.

I have all three cars and the improvement in every matter is visible. However I did built a pimp version of the Bugatti and Lambo. Here I have no idea what they could improve in the next set in a year/two. Different rims? Printed parts (doubt that)? Different shape of the engine - yes. Better gearbox (doubt that)? Shock absorbers in a slightly different colour - yes. But not much else can be done or am I wrong?

As much I love the cars, where for me they are not only a display queens, and I am sure they will survive the years without issues (I have a second sticker sheet for Bugatti just in case - on Porshe I did not use any) I really do hope that for sake of the fans of this collection, they will find a way to print more pieces or introduce full stickers.

[kbalage]

3 hours ago, thekoRngear said:

If you watch Sariel's review you'll see the stepper does not work well for him, it jams. The super flimsy state of this bike also affects when the suspension is in work. And proves it actually is not meant to be played around, but that is (unfortunately) okay for newer consumers.

I'm not sure what happened on his build, but for me the stepper worked super reliably. I really wanted to make it jam, believe me, tortured it for a while to catch any failure on video and had zero issues. Worth to mention that I also did it while I was driving the gears with a motor, so it was not the simple "spinning the wheel with my hand" level of stress on the parts.

[thekoRngear]

2 hours ago, kbalage said:

I'm not sure what happened on his build, but for me the stepper worked super reliably. I really wanted to make it jam, believe me, tortured it for a while to catch any failure on video and had zero issues. Worth to mention that I also did it while I was driving the gears with a motor, so it was not the simple "spinning the wheel with my hand" level of stress on the parts.

I have seen he mentioned he had hard times to make the pull-back right on the 42138 Mustang. Hmm.

But then again, lots of moving parts and they are alot flimsy, really not meant to be played.

Edited December 10, 2021 by thekoRngear

[steph77]

This kind of build is a bit challenging.

IMHO the fact you need to check all along the build that each gear or system works flawlessly is a integrate part of the build. 

Maybe that the fact to build it in a rush so review is out in time is a reasonnable reason to this issue.

 

PS: I am surprised that lego use regular bush against the free16T wheels. I always use 1L spacer with no friction to ensure there will be any stress on moving parts.

[Bartybum]

Actually nah, after watching Sariel's video properly, it looks very flimsy. The sag on the front fork is an instant disqualification for me