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  On 2/10/2022 at 3:37 PM, R0Sch said:

2 studs more on the widest side so 5x5x3. Can be used as an extension with the part you show.
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Can you share the Studio file for this? Also, I think the part has an axle hole, not a pin hole.

  On 2/16/2022 at 7:51 AM, R0Sch said:

Brick Depot has to keep the same embargo's as every RLFM member because they represent the whole chain of certified LEGO stores in Romania.

They are a store and not RLFM or any other recognized entity so technically they don't have the same embargo.

Brick Depot and other retailers (like JB Spielwaren) seem to use a loophole in TLG's regulations with these reviews. In general retailers are allowed to share assets of the sets x days before their release and/or after the official reveal. In the past these assets were only the photos/videos provided by TLG so that was all fine, and most retailers are still following this practice. Once a retailer publishes something like that everyone is free to share these as they are official and originally provided by TLG.

But a few retailers like the two mentioned above started to publish their own photos and unboxing/review videos. Since they have physical access to the sets well before the street date (and also the RLFM embargos) this gives them an unbeatable advantage in this domain that they are happy to use. So far there seems to be no official response to these from TLG, or at least we don't know about it and it keeps happening.

  On 2/16/2022 at 9:01 AM, Ngoc Nguyen said:

Can you share the Studio file for this? Also, I think the part has an axle hole, not a pin hole.

Here you go this time with axle hole.Technic Panel 5x4x4. Please note that all my parts are just mock-ups made in Studio Part Designer.

Edited by R0Sch

  On 2/16/2022 at 9:58 AM, R0Sch said:

Here you go this time with axle hole.Technic Panel 5x4x4

it says 'this folder is not yet public'.

You may want to try bricksafe.com

Edited by SNIPE

  On 2/9/2022 at 12:50 PM, R0Sch said:

I've made an Ldraw file for the 3x19 frame if you want to use it for your builds. For use in Studio the 3 files have to be put separately in the connectivity, collision and parts folder under C:\Users\Your_user_name\AppData\Local\Stud.io\CustomParts.
https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=584078
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The holes in the middle two cross-braces should be rotated 90°. Not ideal, as it prevents one running an axle through the middle. Still, very much looking forward to this part and how much easier it should make bracing.

  On 2/16/2022 at 10:06 AM, Ngoc Nguyen said:

@R0Sch can you create the 1x2 small panel extension as well?

Sure, here you go:
https://brickshelf.com/gallery/R0Sch/42141/2x1x1/2x1x1_panel.col
https://brickshelf.com/gallery/R0Sch/42141/2x1x1/2x1x1_panel.conn
https://brickshelf.com/gallery/R0Sch/42141/2x1x1/2x1x1_panel.dat
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  On 2/16/2022 at 10:17 AM, ord said:

The holes in the middle two cross-braces should be rotated 90°. Not ideal, as it prevents one running an axle through the middle. Still, very much looking forward to this part and how much easier it should make bracing.

Yes, the actual design makes less sense than what we thought the part will look like. Makes it less versatile compared to the previous frames.

I updated the CAD file according to the real part connection points:
https://brickshelf.com/gallery/R0Sch/42141/3x19-Frame/technic_frame_3x19.col
https://brickshelf.com/gallery/R0Sch/42141/3x19-Frame/technic_frame_3x19.conn
https://brickshelf.com/gallery/R0Sch/42141/3x19-Frame/technic_frame_3x19.dat
3x19_technic_frame_v2.png

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@R0Sch  How do I download the .col and .dat files? They just open into new tabs that contain strings of texts.

  On 2/16/2022 at 7:45 AM, howitzer said:

Indeed. Also in the late 90's-early 00's there was an uncontrolled explosion of new colours - some totally pointless - which made logistics costly. It seems that they are much more in control of their stuff now, and there's a better picture of the whole operation.

They didn't have the numbers what the new parts actually costed them to produce. Today they know exactly when they put in a new or uncommon panel into a set how much that has to add to the price of the set.

  On 2/16/2022 at 8:07 AM, gyenesvi said:

I agree with others that these parts (at least in technic) are not too specific, they are quite reusable, and we are not yet having too much of them

There is this new panel specific to his set, there is the new panel specific to the 42137. I'm not convinced they are very reusable until TLG makes them appear in at least a handful of sets more.

  On 2/16/2022 at 11:03 AM, Gumalca said:

They didn't have the numbers what the new parts actually costed them to produce. Today they know exactly when they put in a new or uncommon panel into a set how much that has to add to the price of the set.

Yes, I'm sure the lessons learned 20 years ago are very much still studied inside TLG in order not to repeat the mistakes.

  On 2/16/2022 at 11:03 AM, Gumalca said:

There is this new panel specific to his set, there is the new panel specific to the 42137. I'm not convinced they are very reusable until TLG makes them appear in at least a handful of sets more.

Even the osprey rotorblades were used as panels in car-models. I'm very optimistic, that the new panels will appear in different models, too.

  On 2/16/2022 at 11:03 AM, Gumalca said:

There is this new panel specific to his set, there is the new panel specific to the 42137. I'm not convinced they are very reusable until TLG makes them appear in at least a handful of sets more.

I am pretty sure those new panels are going to be used in other (supercar / racecar) sets in different ways. But actually I would find some more generic panels more useful (like a flat or curved 3x9, just like the existing 3x11 and 3x7 ones, or corner pieces that we discussed in other threads).

  On 2/16/2022 at 9:17 AM, kbalage said:

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So far there seems to be no official response to these from TLG, or at least we don't know about it and it keeps happening.

They are awfully quiet when it comes to answering our questions about the matter.

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  On 2/16/2022 at 9:58 AM, R0Sch said:

Here you go this time with axle hole.Technic Panel 5x4x4. Please note that all my parts are just mock-ups made in Studio Part Designer.

Can you create the other side as well? The mirroring function doesn't mirror it.

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  On 2/16/2022 at 5:13 PM, R0Sch said:

Thank you very much.

Thanks to R0sch's custom parts, I was able to start building this model in Studio. This is the end of bag 2.

 

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It doesn’t seem like there is anything to suggest a “locking differential” like what was written on the McLaren website.

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  On 2/16/2022 at 5:59 PM, LvdH said:

It doesn’t seem like there is anything to suggest a “locking differential” like what was written on the McLaren website.

There is none. The body is hollow, like that of the Ferrari 42125.

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Apparently there's an illegal building technique at the back, according to the speed build video.

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The bottom axle hole of the cam piece theoretically can't fit into the pinhole, but the builder is instructed to put an axle hole through it.

@kbalage I think you may wanna cover this in your review!

Edited by Ngoc Nguyen

  On 2/16/2022 at 8:38 PM, Ngoc Nguyen said:

Apparently there's an illegal building technique at the back, according to the speed build video.

 

 

The bottom axle hole of the cam piece theoretically can't fit into the pinhole, but the builder is instructed to put an axle hole through it.

Just tilt the whole assembly a few degrees clockwise?

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  On 2/16/2022 at 10:33 PM, Zerobricks said:

Just tilt the whole assembly a few degrees clockwise?

Yeah that may work in real life, given that the builder in the speed build video managed to do it. The problem is that it shouldn't fit, and therefore the cam piece is slightly twisted out of its 3rd axle hole. And that is by definition an illegal build.

Edited by Ngoc Nguyen

  On 2/16/2022 at 10:18 AM, R0Sch said:

Cn you post these and others in the LDD new parts too:

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/170286-custom-ldd-bricks-and-fixes/

Thanks!

 

Edited by Zerobricks

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Mathematically, the connection points on the blade's direction are two axle holes, so the whole build is a right trapezoid:

 

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DC = 1, AD = 2, and AB = 1.5. AB is the cam piece. The diagonal BC is larger than 2 but is forced into a length of 2, which are 3 holes apart, in the bottom liftarm.

 

It's even more confusing that this problem can be avoided easily through the use of thin liftarms 1x4 instead of 1x3. In that case, the angle between the cam piece and the blade's direction, which is angle D in the figure, will not be locked at 90 degrees.

 

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