[REVIEW] 42130 - BMW M1000RR K66

[Milan]

REVIEW - 42130 - BMW M1000RR K66

INTRODUCTION
Here we are, the first 18+ Ultimate Collector Series Technic Motorcycle. And what a set it is! Can't tell you how excited I am for this set. I an avid bike lover, and have been riding since I was 14 (now 36), and during that time, I have changed a total of 6 motorcycles, from tiny mopeds, to full size 1000cc monsters. So, being given the opportunity to review a big UCS motorcycle was for me exciting as if I got a UCS Backhoe with hydraulic rams. There is just something special about the two wheels!

I would also like to thank @Jim for making this review possible and helping me get this set! Thanks, buddy!

So far, LEGO has released a total of 32 Technic Motorcycles, ranging greatly in size, functions and appearance.
In order to be able to make some comparisons, I will list the five of the biggest ones (by part count):

5. 42036: Street Motorcycle


 

Launch: 2015
Pieces: 375
Price: $39.99, 34.99€
 

4. 8051: Motorbike

Launch: 2010
Pieces: 467
Price: $39.99

3. 8420: Street Bike

Launch: 2005
Pieces: 506
Price: $49.99

2. 42063: BMW R 1200 GS Adventure

Launch: 2017
Pieces: 603
Price: $59.99, 49.99€

1. 42107: Ducati Panigale V4 R

Launch: 2020
Pieces: 646
Price: $69.99, 59.99€

Like my other reviews, I will try to include some personal real life experience, to include some simple .gif "animations", and to provide as much steps and images as possbile, without feeling encumbered.
Obviously, I will do my best to give a decent explanation of the functions. I take notes while building, as I aim to provide the reader with the felling we are building and noticing everything together.
Since I haven't paid 200 euro for this set, it's difficult for me to tell you whether a set is worth the money, but I will try to think about whether I would buy my own copy and for which amount.

I would like to point out that I got this set just two and a half days before the embargo date, and was really working hard to be able to post it exactly on the time. I will keep an open eye and try to fix any mistakes I may have made.
The box has arrived, let's ride...to the info of the real-life M1000RR!

BMW M1000RR K66

M1000RR is a high performance motorcycle designed to meet FIM World Superbike and Superstock regulations. The new M is built around the S1000RR with revisions to its 999cc ShiftCam inline four. More power and less weight is the holy grail for manufacturers but add more electronics plus aerodynamic enhancements and a handful of chassis tweaks and the M 1000 RR was born. With a hearty £30,935 price tag.

BMW's "M" division was created as a stand-alone subsidiary of BMW's car production that focused on building BMW race cars. The M1000RR is the first motorcycle that BMW have produced to grace the iconic "M" badge.
Let's take a look at the numbers.

Lot's of info for comparing our model with the real-life motorcycle.
As we can see, this motorcycle has 1000 cm3, 212 HP, and just 192kg, which is pretty nice power to weight ratio, around 1100HP per tonne. For example, the Bugatti Veyron has a ratio of 530HP per tonne. Of course, there are motorcycles and even cars that have even better stats, but this still provides some values we can use for comparing.

BMW Wings:
You may have noticed on the second picture that this bike has "wings" that are attached to the very front of the body. Those have two purposes:
- To help prevent "wheelies"
- To help keeping the front forks springs "pre-loaded" a bit, and when the rider starts braking, the fork springs will compress less.
BMW claims its carbon wings produce 16.3kg of downforce at the M1000RR's top speed of 186mph, and in testing improves lap times by 0.5-0.7 second.
They are replicated on the model, too:

PICTURES
Pictures can be viewed in an extra large size (4000+). My Flickr album contains all the photos taken for this review.

DISCLAIMER
The CEE Team of TLG has provided this set. It's not my goal to promote this set. It's my goal to give you an honest opinion about it. Therefore, the opinion in this review is my own and is in no way linked to TLG.

SET INFORMATION
Number: 42130
Title: BMW M1000RR K66
Theme: Technic
Released: 2022
Part Count: 1920
Weight Box: 2.76 KG
Weight Model: 1.45 KG
Box Dimensions: 57,5 cm x 37,5 cm x 9,5 cm
Set Price (RRP): €199.99 / $229.99 / £174.99
Price per Part: €0.104 / $0.112 / £0.091
Links: N/A

THE BOX
As we have gotten used to with 18+ set, this box also shows the model and nicely separated info about part count (1920 pieces). Somehow the black background works here nicely, and all the attention is on the bike itself.
For me, the most satisfying section is the top right corner, where the scale of the model is printed. This is indeed 1:5 model of a motorcycle!
Notice how the bike has been photographed from the lower angle, than an average person would by standing next to it. It makes it even more menacing and larger.
You know how LEGO often makes the models on the box cover look like they are wide and full and dense, while in reality they are often skinny and thin?
Well, you don't have to worry about it here. This model is THICK!

That's where the backside of the box comes in. This image shows the same side of the bike, but from a different angle.

Here, we can see a real M1000RR obviously cornering in high speed, a blueprint of the model with noted length (45.5cm) and height (27cm), the real bike and the model together including some forced perspective, and finally the model standing on its platform on a wooden table

Both at the front and back of the box, the model has been shown with a stand with wheels.

CONTENTS OF THE BOX
The box contains:

• 1x Instruction booklets
• 2x Sticker sheet (packed with the booklet)
• 1x Inner box
• Bags

BOOKLET AND STICKERS
The booklet and sticker sheets are wrapped in plastic.

 Unwrapped.
The quality of the booklet is splendid. Sharp and clear. No damage.

The sticker sheets.
Yes, 79 stickers in total. You will either become an expert in sticking these, or you will hate then even more than you do now.
No damage to them.

INNER BOX
The box contains an inner box, which contains some of the larger parts and a few bags.

BAGS
There are 15 bags for 5 different steps and 1 separate bag for some of the biggest elements.

 

  

 

HIGHLIGHTED PARTS

This sections describes new and recolored parts.

WHEELS
The part we have all been expecting (or hoping) for: a big pair of wheels!

Two of them. No difference between them.
Diameter is around 128mm diameter which is around 16 studs.
Width of the rim itself is around 24mm, or around 3 studs.
Six pin head, and axlehole in the center.

The wheels have been modeled after the real wheels from the BMW M100RR.

TIRES
These are just ginormous.

Two of them. The front one is narrower (27mm), the rear one is wider (37mm). The front one also has a bit smaller diameter (134mm), compared to the rear one (140mm).
Hard rubber. Took some time to mount them on the wheel, as the ridges wont line up easily.
Once mounted they really look majestic.

Let's compare these with other big motorcycle wheels and tires.

1. VS the 88517 75mm D. x 17mm wheel and 11957 100.6mm D. tire.

2. VS the 51378 81mm D. x 28 wheel and 51380 tire

3. VS the 86652 43.2mm D. x 18mm wheel and 32019 62.4 x 20 S tire

 

FORK TUBE WITH SPRINGS
Motorcycle builders have probably waited for a part like this for quite some time.
The main advantage of this part is that it has two sets of connection points, which are spaced out, effectively acting as lower and upper yoke.
That gives much more strength and rigidity when connecting the front wheel with the frame.
They have six connection points on the side of the cylinder, one axle hole at the bottom, and one round and one axle hole at the piston.
We have got two of them.
Around 140mm in length.

SHOCK ABSORBER
Hard shock absorber. The blue coil is mainly for the looks. The working spring is hidden inside.
Has one round hole on one end, and one round hole and one axle hole on the other end.
We have got one in the set.
Around 70mm (9 studs) long. Compresses 12mm (1.5 studs).

HUBS
These are modified 11950 hubs. In this version they have a socket with square profile for the new fork tubes. Together they make a strong and rigid connection.
We have got two of these.

BRAKE DISKS
One of the nicest parts and most realistic parts so far. We got two of these pieces in the set. Same diameter, 70mm.

Comparison with the 65416 brake disk.

WINDSHIELD
A beautiful and highly specialized part. Essential for a realistic motorcycle model, but may be too unique and not so easy to implement on motorcycle mocs.
Has a total of four pin holes, two sets of two, on the opposing sides.
90mm x 90mm.

Technic, Link Chain, in pearl gold?
Part 3711. has never been released in this color. We got 65 pieces of this part in this set.

Technic, Panel Plate 5 x 11 x 1 Tapered, in Light Bluish Gray
Part 18945, has never been released in this color. We got 2 pieces in this set.

Technic, Panel Fairing # 1 Small Smooth Short, Side A and B, in Light Bluish Gray
Part 87080 and 87086 have never been released in this color. We got 2 pieces in this set.

Technic Cam, in Light Bluish Gray
Part 6575, has never been released in this color. We got 15 pieces in this set.

Wedge 2 x 1 x 2/3 with Stud Notch Left, in Dark Azure
Part 29120, has never been released in this color. We got 1 pieces in this set.

Technic, Liftarm, Modified L-Shape Quarter Ellipse Thick 2 x 3, in White
Part 71708, has never been released in this color. We got 4 pieces in this set.

 

PART LIST
The complete part list for all 1920 parts.

 

THE BUILD
Let's take a look what the booklet says.
It shows the five building phases. I was happy how they separated it, as from the first glance it seemed you would first build the engine, then the frame and swingarm and forks, and then the fairings.
It was not exactly like this, but not very far from it.

 

I received the box at late afternoon of the 6th Dec, Monday, and the embargo ends at 9th of Dec, Thursday, at 15:00 CET. So, I got two and a half days to unpack it, to build it, to take pictures at important points, to analyze it, to edit the pics, find about as much as I can about the real BMW bike, and to write up the review. I put it all in planner and figured if I take a day and a half off the work, avoid my family and girlfriend, sleep under 4 hours per night, this would be a piece of cake.
And it was, thank you, planner!

So, let's not waste time, we are now building against the clock! Let's go! (insert some short pipe bike revving here)
As the booklet ordered, we start with the engine module.
This is the right hand side of the engine module.

And literally in the next few steps we start with the...gearbox!

Now, I will try to cover these steps with as many photos as possible, so we all can see how the gearbox works.
Here, we add the first parts of the ratcheting mechanism.

 

We can see that the gearbox needs to be built in a way that all the gears and bushings have enough space around so they can rotate freely.

I like that ratcheting mechanism. The axle on the right, will be foot lever/gear selector.

Wave selector in.

More gears in, and we get to put the foot lever.

The gearbox is done.
I will pause here to take a look at it.
It is a three speed gearbox + neutral (the real BMW M1000RR has a six speed + neutral gearbox). The model does not have any new gears.
Shifting is done via the foot lever, three clicks up, and three clicks down.
I find it odd that the gearbox has neutral gear (N) in the place between the second and third gear.
Usually, it should be between first and second gear (1-N-2-3-4-5...)
So, you shift the gearbox on this model like this:
...1-2-N-3-N-2-1-2-N-3-N-2-1...

After the gearbox, we are building the engine block.
Again, let's take a look at the real motorcycle.
The real BMW M1000RR has an inline 4 cylinder engine.
Our model captures this, with its own inline four cylinder engine. We have transparent engine cylinders, with yellow pistons. Nothing new here, and most likely not much need for a new size of the cylinders or pistons.
If we make a scaled comparison, yes, the pistons should have been 16mm wide, or 2 studs wide.
The engine is connected to the gearbox via tan 20 tooth double bevel gear, which connects to the red 16 tooth clutch gear.
This step is completed with the left hand side, made from liftarms and connectors.
Final part to add is the chain.

Here we add some cosmetic modules, mainly the radiator at the very front, and two side panels made out of tiles and slopes.

Having completed this stage, let's think about it.
How realistic is this setup?
Motorcycles have the primary and secondary (or final) drive.

The primary drive takes the power from the engine to the gearbox.
The secondary drive takes power from the gearbox via gear (more correctly: front sprocket) which is connected to the rear gear (more correctly: rear sprocket) to transmit that power. For this purpose the sprockets on the front and rear are connected using either a chain drive or a belt drive in some cases. There are even shaft drives, but those are pretty rare to find these days.

Our LEGO models tries hard to capture this setup, and the effort is visible, with somewhat limited success.
So, we are looking for primary drive, gearbox and secondary/final drive. Also the number of gearbox speeds.
1. As noted, the LEGO inline engine drives the gearbox via 20 tooth double bevel gear, which connects to the red 16 tooth clutch gear. We can accept this as the Primary drive.
2. Gearbox section is where this setup fails, but not because of the design, but because of the sheer size of the gearbox. It literally takes the whole space in the inside of the step 1. Nevertheless, we have the Gearbox.
3. Front sprocket is the LBG 16 tooth gear, and the rear sprocket is the 40 tooth gear at the back. We have the Secondary/final drive.

4. The real BMW M1000RR has a 6 speed gearbox, our model has only 3+N speed gearbox.

Verdict: theoretically, it is all there, just not in scale, with the massive three speed gearbox being too big to be realistic.
This set could have been a nice way to introduce new clutch gears, to make an ultra compact and efficient gearbox.
Just imagine having something like these in this set:

 

 

Opening the Bag 2, and we start with the platform.
It is incredibly useful as a stand for the bike while you are building it, as the frame cannot stand on its own.
The platform is completed with the UCS style sticker, with info about the real BMW bike.

We are building the frame, or the engine bottom. This will eventually hold the fork tubes.

A few steps later we get to attend a mini marriage between the frame and the engine section. We can also see the yoke/neck section section at the front.

The booklet tells us it is time to swing. The arm. And that brings us to...

Nothing fancy here. Small turntable as the pivot point, small disk brake at the rear, fake brake hose, and one big sticker that mimics complex shape of the otherwise plain LBG panel.
This is the frame with the right hand swingarm installed.

And once we install the second swingarm and the big shock absorber, things started to look even better.

Having completed this stage, let's think about it.
How realistic is this setup?

Let's examine the frame.
Frame of the BMW M1000RR is a perimeter frame or a twin-spar frame.

A perimeter frame or a twin-spar frame has two box section tubes that are fused to the yoke at one end and the swingarm pivot at the other in the shortest distance possible. The engine, on the other hand, is suspended off it. The end result is a performance-driven chassis that is more stable and rigid. Almost all of the motorcycles in motoGP have this type of frame.
Our frame:

It does try to mimic the twin spar frame visually, with clearly separated frame pieces going around the tilted engine-unit. Practically, it is not twin spar.
We should probably acknowledge that creating strictly twin-spar frame would severely compromise the rigidity of the whole model, and hence they opted for a frame that connects with everything, everywhere, and has no definitive shape.
I very much like their effort to keep the engine tilted, so it looks like it is a separate unit. Kudos for that.

And with the back wheel...

Next step is to construct the triple tree, or the fork tubes assembly.
We get this very strong and sturdy setup...

BUT...the attachment points are not too strong under the weight of the bike, when finished, and the forks and front wheel tend to move away from the bike when put on the ground.
Also, at this point, we can see that the steering range is quite limited, which is okay for a sport bike, but it might have been a bit better for the LEGO model which you might want to push around a bit. If we want to keep it as real as possible, then the range is fine.

While we are there, we are going to construct the front wheel with the brake disks and calipers, and the new wheel hubs.

Now, we will pause with the build and make a stand with the wheels, which is scheduled for building at the very end, but I want to be able to take some photos with it now.
Nice looking stand, which works great. It connects to the two swingarms and is able to hold the bike in plane.

And the main reason I wanted this stand now, is because we have added some panels to the bike, and this is the closest we will get to the Streetfighter type of a bike from this set.

This is the base of the nose section, with parts in a lot of various angles.

Once we covered it with white panels and new windshield piece...

And front mudguard...

We have a number of smaller modules to attach to the bike, which now starts to look like a proper racer.
At this point we can test the suspension, as all the bottom panels are installed. When pressed all the way down (please see the animations all the way down the page), the spoiler panels are touching the ground. 

The only parts left are the exhaust pipe and side paneling.

Front wing.

Front lower panel.

Front upper panel.

And once we attach all of these, we finally get to see the finished bike.
Please note that at this stage, some panels feel a bit flimsy, by the way they are constructed, and the way they are attached.

COMPLETED MODEL
The final model measures 45.5 cm in length, 27cm in height, and 17 cm in width, and it makes it hard to imagine just how big this bike is without having it in front of you.
Looking at this picture I can forget (at least for some time) the lack of more advanced functions and the 3 speed gearbox.

Speechless as the first time I saw the box art!
Allow me to just post a set of pictures which tells the story better than I could ever have.

FUNCTIONS

Functions and features are:
- Steering
- Suspension front and back
- Fake 4 cylinder engine, driven by the back wheel
- (3 speed + neutral) gearbox, operated via foot lever

Steering animation:

Suspension animation:

SUMMARY
This set will obviously have mixed reviews and opinions.

On one side, there are people who would have preferred this set to be much more technical, with more elaborate functions.
Should we have hoped for more complex functions, like a proper and compact 6 speed gearbox with new clutch gears, working brakes, adjustable suspension...? Probably, at least some of it.

On the other side, there are people, average AFOLs, who would have preferred this set to be as good looking as possible, with a few basic functions.
Should they be happy with the overall appearance of the model. More than likely.

When it comes to the design of the set, I am in love with it. This is a proper racing motorcycle, looking as impressive as an actual BMW M1000RR.
The gearbox is what it is. Having an huge gearbox can be a risk, as we have seen in some previous sets.
I am impressed with its dense build and how many parts are connected to the chassis in all possible ways. I do not like how the connection between the fork tubes and the frame twists under the weight of the bike.
With so many stickers, you will quickly determine are you a sticker lover or hater.

Playability is probably not a primary concern for buyers. The set is to big too push around, and a limited steering range may make it even harder. It seems this might be more of a static scale model, then an actual set for "playing".
How big?
Here is comparison with a Yoda minifigure (pro-tip, Yoda is in the left bottom corner ):

Regarding the price, for 200 euros you get 1920 pieces connected in a way to form a marvelously looking motorcycle.
Again, this is just a motorcycle, so we need to factor in the fact that bikers (especially those who want a great looking set) would appreciate it much more than car persons or construction equipment persons.

Bigger isn't always better, but the sheer size of the bike is impressive and its look is even more impressive. All things considered, I love most of it and I do think it's the best bike LEGO has ever produced.
I hope that we will get more models like this one in the future, with some or all the flaws corrected.

PROS

• Impressive design
• Impressive size
• Very premium look
• Great new parts for bike builders
• Nice shot at realistic functions and placement of the elements.

CONS

• No advanced functions
• Weak yoke/neck point
• Limited steering range
• Price can be steep if you are after more than a good looking set
• Some people may hate having to put so many stickers
• Some panels are flimsy
• Strange choice for the neutral gear (between second and third gear). Usually the neutral gear (N) is between the first and second gear on bikes.

SCORE
How do I rate this set?

9 DESIGN

Beautifully looking. Strong, dense and incredible connections of various parts at various angles. One point shy from 10 because of the weakish yoke/neck section, as the front forks setup twists under the weight.

10 BUILDING EXPERIENCE

A truly 18+ set. Challenging but rewarding. Lots of stickers, but in this case, they make the difference.

6 FEATURES

The basic ones are there. We have hoped for more.

7 PLAYABILITY

Too big to push around, with a limited steering range. It is more of a static scale model with some functions.

10 PARTS

A great selection of the incredible new parts for motorcycle builds. Applicable to other builds, too.

8 VALUE FOR MONEY

This one is highly subjective and will probably depend on your budget and your preferences.

Final score: 8.3

Thanks for reading. I hope you liked it

[Jim]

This is one FINE review. I'm glad we decided to send the BMW to you.

I will check it out in more detail tonight, since I want to read the entire review.

[Alex Ilea]

Absolutely loving the looks on this one! Thank you for the great review Milan!

[SNIPE]

Loving this set

Am I right in saying that the blue spring compresses but the real spring is inside of the assembly.

Those front springs will probably never be used in any other set unfortunatley due to their massive length and thickness

The new wheel hubs are ok but the pin holes will prevent a cv joint from pivoting and also the mounting bracket for the spring means that the hub wont fit inside of some recessed rims.

I'll definetley be buying this though.

[Milan]

1 hour ago, Jim said:

This is one FINE review. I'm glad we decided to send the BMW to you.

Thanks, Jim! It means a lot coming from one of the top reviewers

1 hour ago, IA creations said:

Absolutely loving the looks on this one! Thank you for the great review Milan!

I love it, too! You're welcome

1 hour ago, SNIPE said:

Loving this set

Am I right in saying that the blue spring compresses but the real spring is inside of the assembly.

Me, too!
Yeah, the blue spring is mainly for show. Take a look at the new parts section in the review, I wrote a line about it, and HERE you can see a despicably huge pic of it

[Lyichir]

OUTSTANDING review! I'm amazed you were able to put together such a detailed review with high quality photos in just two and a half days!

This set looks pretty dang impressive, though it's well outside the price range of what I'd typically want to pay for a theme I don't collect that much. That said, maybe I'll get it as a gift for my younger brother who is more of a Technic fan (and fan of all things fast). I'd definitely be interested in helping him build something like this!

[Seasider]

Just read your review @Milan and then jumped onto YouTube to watch RacingBricks review.

This set is HUGE ! And although I prefer 4 wheels to 2 I just love this, definitely need it to go with the “ucs” supercars.

I wonder how expensive those shocks are going to be with the fake blue springs as they’d look great on lots of models.

2022 might be an expensive year for Lego for me, with this and sets from other themes !

 

[Milan]

5 minutes ago, Lyichir said:

OUTSTANDING review! I'm amazed you were able to put together such a detailed review with high quality photos in just two and a half days!

This set looks pretty dang impressive, though it's well outside the price range of what I'd typically want to pay for a theme I don't collect that much. That said, maybe I'll get it as a gift for my younger brother who is more of a Technic fan (and fan of all things fast). I'd definitely be interested in helping him build something like this!

Thanks! Yeah, really, it was.
Price is indeed something to consider. I am sure it makes it more clear if you are a bike fan
Hope you two will have fun there, just make sure to have some patience with the stickers and some building steps.

2 minutes ago, Seasider said:

Just read your review @Milan and then jumped onto YouTube to watch RacingBricks review.

This set is HUGE ! And although I prefer 4 wheels to 2 I just love this, definitely need it to go with the “ucs” supercars.

I wonder how expensive those shocks are going to be with the fake blue springs as they’d look great on lots of models.

2022 might be an expensive year for Lego for me, with this and sets from other themes !

Yeah, I went straight to his video after posting my review. Those shocks are pretty hard, but they look awesome. Hopefully we will see them soon again.

[GerritvdG]

Thanks for the excellent review @Milan, really cool to publish it so fast! I really like the comparison to the real BMW and the effort you put in is really visible!! A joy to read and nice images!

Although I'm more a construction vehicle guy, I like this set!

 

 

[Zerobricks]

Thanks for the detailed review and crisp photographs, Milan, especially in the limited time you had!

I would just like to ask you if there is any way you could record the force needed to fully compress the new front and rear shock absorbers? Thanks!

[Meatman]

Seems like an overly huge gearbox compared to the 42107 just to add a 3rd gear and reverse.

[nerdsforprez]

30 minutes ago, SNIPE said:

Am I right in saying that the blue spring compresses but the real spring is inside of the assembly.

Yes. And in @Sariel's review he states it is the hardest spring to date...

[allanp]

Thanks for the review Milan, you did a great job in a short time. The set however doesn't impress me. Sure it's big and looks good but mechanically it offers nothing new or more realistic. They have brake callipers and brake lines but they are completely non functional, and the gearbox is the usual overly complex unrealistic mess. Technic will never look as good as a proper scale model but that's all they appear to have focused on here, while having a too skinny looking rear tyre and missing rear view mirrors and odd proportions. 

I would have liked to have seen much more technical features, more realistic mechanics/gearbox and for playability, how cool would it have been to add the option of a motor inside the large build stand that powers the engine. Then you could really see the speed of the rear wheel increase when you flick through the 6 gears. Then lift the bike off the stand and feel the working brakes. Maybe next time? 

Edited December 9, 2021 by allanp

[Milan]

9 minutes ago, GerritvdG said:

Thanks for the excellent review @Milan, really cool to publish it so fast! I really like the comparison to the real BMW and the effort you put in is really visible!! A joy to read and nice images!

Although I'm more a construction vehicle guy, I like this set!

You're welcome!
Thanks, since this is a branded model, it only seems fair to compare it with the real thing.

8 minutes ago, Zerobricks said:

Thanks for the detailed review and crisp photographs, Milan, especially in the limited time you had!

I would just like to ask you if there is any way you could record the force needed to fully compress the new front and rear shock absorbers? Thanks!

You're welcome, buddy!
I will give my best to do it, if someone doesn't beat me to it. I remember the rear shock is much harder than the front. But once in a model, it feels soft.

6 minutes ago, Meatman said:

Seems like an overly huge gearbox compared to the 42107 just to add a 3rd gear and reverse.

It has 3+N, it does not have reverse. But yeah, the gearbox takes up a lot of space.

[Meatman]

1 minute ago, allanp said:

Thanks for the review Milan, you did a great job in a short time. The set however doesn't impress me. Sure it's big and looks good but mechanically it offers nothing new or more realistic.   

I agree. It's not quite as special as I had hoped.

[Thirdwigg]

Thanks @Milan for one of the better reviews I have seen on Eurobricks. Also, this was the first set I have gotten my first image from Eurobricks; no leaks, no candies, no official announcements, just first impressions from Eurobricks as it should be.

Like the Ducati, this set has some great new parts, and I look forward to using them in the future. I'm still trying to figure out the angles of the pin holes in the windscreen. I look forward to an element writeup for this part in New Elementary.

The functions are good enough for the market, and I'm sure we will be able to improve the gearbox.

Thanks again for the review, and I'm happy this set has been designed and made available to us.

[Milan]

2 hours ago, allanp said:

Thanks for the review Milan, you did a great job in a short time. The set however doesn't impress me. Sure it's big and looks good but mechanically it offers nothing new or more realistic. they have brake callipers and brake lines but they are completely non functional, and the gearbox is the usual overly complex unrealistic mess. Technic will never look as good as a proper scale model but that's all they appear to have focused on here, while having a too skinny looking rear tyre and missing rear view mirrors and odd proportions. 

I would have liked to have seen much more technical features, more realistic mechanics and for playability, how cool would it have been to add the option of a motor inside the large build stand that powers the engine. Then you could really see the speed of the rear wheel increase when you flick through the gears. 

Agreed with everything.
It seems as if they went with the idea to appease to the people who like good looking sets (in general way, not super enthusiastic and informed biker).
I forgot to add that I am waiting for @piterx and his ideas for motorization of this set

2 hours ago, Thirdwigg said:

Thanks @Milan for one of the better reviews I have seen on Eurobricks. Also, this was the first set I have gotten my first image from Eurobricks; no leaks, no candies, no official announcements, just first impressions from Eurobricks as it should be.

Like the Ducati, this set has some great new parts, and I look forward to using them in the future. I'm still trying to figure out the angles of the pin holes in the windscreen. I look forward to an element writeup for this part in New Elementary.

The functions are good enough for the market, and I'm sure we will be able to improve the gearbox.

Thanks again for the review, and I'm happy this set has been designed and made available to us.

You're welcome, buddy! And thanks for the praise.
If you need a pic if the windshield, let me know, since it is not buried too deep inside the set, I can make a new pic or two from a specific angle for you

[efferman]

Jim, many thanks for the review, but i almost had a hear attack when i saw the pictures with the custom Gears. A few Seconds i thought we will finally get a wide range of Clutch gears.

[Jim]

1 minute ago, efferman said:

Jim, many thanks for the review, but i almost had a hear attack when i saw the pictures with the custom Gears. A few Seconds i thought we will finally get a wide range of Clutch gears.

You're welcome. I really enjoyed bui.....now wait a minute. Didn't Milan write this review?!  

[Citromon]

After seeing @Sariel review, I have some 42056 deja-vu here, with that N between 2 and 3 speed, but I do like the overall look of it. 

I'm not a big fan of motorcycles, but I'm thinking of buying this set as a present for my son, who is due to be born after the new year. It will surely be a surprise for him when in 6-8 years he will receive a technic set of his year of birth as a gift.

Otherwise, thank you for the review and great photos.

[kbalage]

Very nice detailed review @Milan, congrats! It's great to read details about the set from a biker who understands all the things going on, I had to rely on other's knowledge myself 

About the gearbox, I think neutral is actually meant to be between the 1st and the 2nd gears, as the set seems to stick to TLG's reversed concept of "gears" when a higher gear means the engine runs faster... This was the case with the sets in the previous years, I don't think they suddenly changed it :) 

 

[Anio]

16 minutes ago, kbalage said:

About the gearbox, I think neutral is actually meant to be between the 1st and the 2nd gears, as the set seems to stick to TLG's reversed concept of "gears" when a higher gear means the engine runs faster... This was the case with the sets in the previous years, I don't think they suddenly changed it :)

I was feeling a bit lonely here... Finally someone who pointed out this very major flaw.

Neutral is obviously between 1st and 2nd, like real bikes. And starting from neutral, 1st gear is when you push the lever down, like real bikes as well. Then twice up to get 2nd gear, then once up to finally get 3rd gear.

But ratios are wrong. Not to mention that on my model 3rd gear tends to crack if I drive the bike just a bit too fast.

All in all, this bike is the new Porsche 42056, but with 2 wheels only. :-/

 

edit : previous setS ? I can only think of 42056 that got the ratios wrong.

[efferman]

25 minutes ago, Jim said:

You're welcome. I really enjoyed bui.....now wait a minute. Didn't Milan write this review?!  

Seems i had a brain malfunction

[Meatman]

26 minutes ago, Anio said:

I was feeling a bit lonely here... Finally someone who pointed out this very major flaw.

Neutral is obviously between 1st and 2nd, like real bikes. And starting from neutral, 1st gear is when you push the lever down, like real bikes as well. Then twice up to get 2nd gear, then once up to finally get 3rd gear.

But ratios are wrong. Not to mention that on my model 3rd gear tends to crack if I drive the bike just a bit too fast.

All in all, this bike is the new Porsche 42056, but with 2 wheels only. :-/

 

edit : previous setS ? I can only think of 42056 that got the ratios wrong.

The Land Rover's gears were all wrong too. Well, they were backwards anyways.

 

I'd love to hear someone from Lego explain the reasoning why they decided to start doing things like this. Is it on purpose or by accident? The Lamborghini is correct.

 

 

Edited December 9, 2021 by Meatman

[Anio]

3 minutes ago, Meatman said:

The Land Rover's gears were all wrong too. Well, they were backwards anyways.

They are not, excepted for reverse gear.