Thanks for this awesome review! Lots of pics!

Excellent review, Milan! While I don't think we need a standalone picture of every unopened bag, I admire your dedication to finish the review just in time while providing so many details and RL facts. Also from one biker to the other I feel you. Still, I would have preferred functionality over looks for a Technic set and not mentioning a single function on the box or instructions is a bad trend for this theme. If it's not important for 18+ why even include it and not just make a brick built realistic looking model in the Creator Expert line-up like the HD?
P.S. Cardan shaft drive is not so rare. Even BMW has it in their GS1200 models. I was glad when LEGO did that set and at least got that detail right.
P.P.S. I wonder if the new larger UCS Hulkbuster will fit this bike just as well as the previous one fit the Fat Boy.
 

36 minutes ago, Anio said:

edit : previous setS ? I can only think of 42056 that got the ratios wrong.

The Defender also had the gears reversed especially the hi and low shifter. Had to cut the sticker in half and aply them reversed to fix it. Basically all Technic sets have the ratios wrong since they make the engine run faster in higher gears instead of the other way around.

3 hours ago, Milan said:

Around 140mm in length.

 

 

 

 

 

Although the set, IMO does not have the functions we want I kinda feel that is up to us.  I think a set should come with all the functions I want about the same way I think a real competition car, or expensive RC truck should come with all the functions I want.  In that THEY AREN'T.  They come "stock" for a reason and it is up to the owner to update it according to their whim (s).  

But these pieces.  Right here.  Lego might get me to buy the set if not just for these pieces right here. They look premium.  For one, the color, at least of the front shocks.  Beautiful.  My dream Lego Technic set would come all in such colors, at least for the chassis, engine, etc.  They give the build a "real" feel to them, almost as if one is working with metal.  I don't care if it makes the build hard.  Can you imagine building an engine with these as your colors?  Or at least somewhere in this palette?  Not pure chrome (too bright for me) but the duller, still metallic look of these?  And the rear shock looks more realistic to me as well.  Less-toy like.  And the brake disk.  @sariel's review mentioned that it looks like it may have been cast separately.  Don't care if it actually was or not (probably not) but just the look of it is premium.  Well done Lego!  

Anyone have any info regarding is it expensive for TLG to do elements in these colors? Why not more of this stuff?  I would gladly pay double the price for a set that did away with color coding, did engine and chassis elements in such colors, to enhance the "real" feel of things.  I hope to god that some day we get engine elements (new ones, not the old) in similar colors.  

 

 

Wonderful review.  I especially like the pictures with the body panels removed.  I like to see the innards.  I did this with the Chiron and also Landrover and it looks shnazzy........

 

 

 

Excellent review @Milan!!

Overall the bike looks great, I'm not convinced though seeing what it offers in terms of being 'Technic'...

The new wheels and shocks are really beautiful, but highly specialized and almost single purpose. And the size/weight of this model seems to go over the limits of the ABS and LEGO snap ability. Anyway, I probably end up getting this because of my collectors OCD and, well, it's new and big and LEGO...

Am I the only one that is surprised to not see the new #60 and#61 panels in this bike...?

What a show! I love this set! It will be mine immediately when it comes out! Thanks LEGO

6 minutes ago, Rudivdk said:

Am I the only one that is surprised to not see the new #60 and#61 panels in this bike...?

You're not the only one.

12 minutes ago, Rudivdk said:

Am I the only one that is surprised to not see the new #60 and#61 panels in this bike...?

I have a feeling this motorcycle took quite a while to design, maybe even before they had those panels approved.

38 minutes ago, nerdsforprez said:

Anyone have any info regarding is it expensive for TLG to do elements in these colors? Why not more of this stuff?  I would gladly pay double the price for a set that did away with color coding, did engine and chassis elements in such colors, to enhance the "real" feel of things.  I hope to god that some day we get engine elements (new ones, not the old) in similar colors. 

It's not any more expensive to make parts in neutral greys and blacks. Lego color codes parts not for cost savings, but for ease of building—color coding of common parts like pins and axles means less time spent searching for parts and less chance of accidentally using the wrong part. It's not always a popular decision among AFOLs... but it is one that Lego generally finds reduces customer confusion or dissatisfaction, which both helps to earn repeat customers and reduce customer service complaints where somebody built something wrong and thinks the set is defective or missing parts.

22 minutes ago, Zerobricks said:

I have a feeling this motorcycle took quite a while to design, maybe even before they had those panels approved.

Could be, although the panels might have been part of that same long design process...

The #60 and #61 panels just seemed like perfect candidates for motorcycle bodywork...

43 minutes ago, nerdsforprez said:

Although the set, IMO does not have the functions we want I kinda feel that is up to us.  I think a set should come with all the functions I want about the same way I think a real competition car, or expensive RC truck should come with all the functions I want.  In that THEY AREN'T.  They come "stock" for a reason and it is up to the owner to update it according to their whim (s). 

Hey I remember this argument, in the Technic is for kids.... topic!  

1 hour ago, Anio said:

They are not, excepted for reverse gear.

It is slightly off-topic here, but they are in a reverse order on the Defender as well, you can see it here. I'm sure it was the same case in every supercar with a gearbox, except they did not have any indicators what is shifting up and down. The Defender has a sticker for the gears and the hi/lo selector as well.

I could not have this confirmed by any of the designers, but my theory is simple: this is a reverse logic made for kids and it should be some management decision, I'm sure Technic designers know exactly how gearboxes and engines work. Why shifting up? -> I want to go faster! -> Since only the engine moves then that should move faster to indicate "more speed"

And it's a shame since this could be a nice educational tool to teach about the relation between wheel speed and engine speed in different gears, but it is sacrificed for the show. 

1 minute ago, Rudivdk said:

Could be, although the panels might have been part of that same long design process...

The #60 and #61 panels just seemed like perfect candidates for motorcycle bodywork...

This set clearly took at least 2 years in the making since Samuel's last set was the Top Gear Rally car from 2020 and 8 new parts especially this complex take more time than simple fairing pieces. The panels were designed specifically for the two 50$ pullback sets from 2022 and most likely decided on this year. Maybe @grohl can confirm this.

First of all: Thanks to milan for this great review!

Excellent reading material and very informative!

 

This BMW has completely passed me by in earlier discussions... So I was pleasantly surprised when I saw the final model.
I had actually lost interest in the Technic line. This was because so many models had come out that didn't seem interesting to me at all.
But anyway: this model is great. The size hudge and the technical building challenge looks great.

  I must have it!

Maybe it seems from the various reviews I have read so far, that it is not the most innovative set, but I don't care: this is Love At First (second and third) Sight.

(Thanks to Sariel, Racingbrick and Zusammengebaut for their video reviews too )
 

 

BMW M for Most expensive Lego bike ever ;-)

£175 and a sticker sheet, this is a shame, but the set looks ok, but I can't help but think £175 for a 2 wheel motorbike....

Thanks to Milan for the extensive review. Lots of info, thoughts and pictures, thanks! I'm not a bike person, but I think I can agree with the overall sentiment - the set looks great, but seems not to offer much new in functionality. That's a bit of a pity. The switch mechanism seems like a nice addition though, but all the rest feels "big for the sake of it". I'm not sure that this is something I want to spend €200 on - no matter how much I love those wheels :D

That said though, the set brings more to the table than the so-manieth supercar. At least it's something they didn't do before, which, by itself, is a good thing!

What I personally dislike is how some of those new parts seem really single-use. Especially that "modified" font wheel mount really feels like a cop-out. Oh well - I'm sure Afols will find an original use for it. The new springs and such are cool, but limited in practical use, I think. Though the blue one seems interesting and usable in other situations. I'm not a fan of single-use parts, I'll have to see these parts return in other use-cases to prove their worth before I can believe they add something to the parts palette. But yeah, those wheels are awesome :D

 @paul_delahayeRemember its is almost twice the size and has about 3 times the parts..

Screendump from Racingbricks video

 

Edited December 9, 20213 yr by JunkstyleGio
Answering to earlier posting

1 hour ago, Lyichir said:

It's not any more expensive to make parts in neutral greys and blacks. Lego color codes parts not for cost savings, but for ease of building—color coding of common parts like pins and axles means less time spent searching for parts and less chance of accidentally using the wrong part. It's not always a popular decision among AFOLs... but it is one that Lego generally finds reduces customer confusion or dissatisfaction, which both helps to earn repeat customers and reduce customer service complaints where somebody built something wrong and thinks the set is defective or missing parts.

Yes, I understand the color coding thing.  Ease of building.  That is why I also said: 

 

2 hours ago, nerdsforprez said:

I don't care if it makes the build hard

But about the color cost.  Are you sure it doesn't cost TLG more?   Paint costs money.  And has been shown before, elements can actually have different weights based only on their color.  Plus, a metallic shade seems to add something else.  In all other aspects of manufacturing, paint varies in quality, and differs in mass, quality and cost.  Yes, perhaps not basic black and LBG, but I am discussing the colors seen in the front shocks.  

If there truly is no additional costs, why not use these colors more?  Can you imagine one of our UCS supercars in say this pearl metallic?  I would gladly pay more for these colors.....

To me, one of the biggest flaws in this is the scale... not that a huge bike is bad, but that you don't realize how big it is. Lego needs a better way to indicate scale on the box, such as a hand playing with it or something. I've built several other Lego motorcycles (8051, and the Harley), and so when I first saw this I was shocked by the price tag. At a glance, the wheels/tires looked to be the same size as the existing ones and I didn't grasp how much bigger this is. Even in the review (which was great by the way), it wasn't fully clear the scale. So thanks JunkystyleGio for that screencap just above this post with the sets together!

Great review! Thank you very much.

I love the set as well, although I am not that much into racing bikes. It oozes awesomeness and I just can't stop drooling over the new shocks, especially the rear one looks really juicy! I hope eventually this set comes up on my menu. The rear shocks most certainly will, at least four of them 

I am glad LEGO can still surprise me as this is certainly a very pleasant surprise!

1 hour ago, Erik Leppen said:

What I personally dislike is how some of those new parts seem really single-use. Especially that "modified" font wheel mount really feels like a cop-out. Oh well - I'm sure Afols will find an original use for it.

First of all, great review Milan. Very informative.

When I saw this front wheel mount I immediately thought: McPherson suspension... But maybe that is harder then it looks at first sight.

Thanks for this review.

Just one thing: 

The part 6575 exist from the early 90's in this color. I own some 6 of them.

Technic Cam, in Light Bluish Gray
Part 6575, has never been released in this color. We got 15 pieces in this set.

  

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Edited December 9, 20213 yr by steph77

Incredible review! Very, very good!

As for the set, I'll be skipping this one. It falls in the same camp as the Bugatti, Lambo, Ferrari, and whatnot: a big display piece that is totally uninteresting past the build phase. I really don't like this trend of Technic vehicles.

46 minutes ago, mostlytechnic said:

To me, one of the biggest flaws in this is the scale... not that a huge bike is bad, but that you don't realize how big it is. Even in the review (which was great by the way), it wasn't fully clear the scale.

True, although I included a comparison with a Yoda minifigure, and noted several times how big it is.

6 minutes ago, steph77 said:

Thanks for this review.

Just one thing: 

The part 6575 exist from the early 90's in this color. I own some 6 of them.

Technic Cam, in Light Bluish Gray
Part 6575, has never been released in this color. We got 15 pieces in this set.

Are you sure that isn't the old Light Gray?
Because Bricklink says there are no sets yet with that piece in LBG color.

Good question i am not really sure about that. These parts are quiet old and not still in perfect state actually...

@Milan IMHO you made a great review; even @Jim could be proud on your pictures 

Just one info; since I have part 6575 (Technic Cam) in light bluish gray in my inventory for years (bought over bricklink.com) it must have been from some set. As usual from year 2004 bluish gray color (light and dark) replaced gray color and in this inventory we have both light bluish gray and light grey color parts (which for me doesn't have sense), so I assume my light bluish gray cams came from that set. 

To me it looks like rear tire has bigger diameter

Edited December 9, 20213 yr by 1gor