NovaBricks Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: Yeah, true. I would probably be one slaughtering them lol. When the shock and the hype died down tho, I realised how... average this movie really was. It's absolutely carried into "enjoyable" status by Dafoe. If it weren't for him, the movie wouldn't have even been decent. Quote
NoOneOfImportance Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 Debates about the value of the movie itself aside, I definitely would appreciate seeing some more sets just for those figure variants (and perhaps finally a Lizard figure). Quote
Flaming Bricks Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, bradreed715 said: But if someone were to say this when it came out they'd be slaughtered online lol That is true, slaughtered is a harsh work. Webbed makes more sense, you know, because we're still talking about Spiderman NWH 1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: Yeah, true. I would probably be one slaughtering them lol. When the shock and the hype died down tho, I realised how... average this movie really was. I hope you change your mind when Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness releases. That's the next Marvel movie I'm most hyped for. Did you think it was average, because you thought it was oversaturated in fan service and cameos? I bet Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness will have plenty of cameos and jaw dropping moments to make fans jump from their seats. Spiderman NWH was an outstanding experience in the cinema, but I wonder if it will hold up for me when I watch it from home on a DVD or Blu-Ray. It was very hyped, almost or even more hyped than Endgame was, but Endgame was an end of an era. NWH is a new start for the webslinger and I wonder what happens next. If they make Spiderman 4,5, and 6, will people get sick of seeing Tom Holland or will they continue to beg Marvel to keep him as Spiderman for the forseeable future? I'm just surprised, because everyone else I've seen on the internet and that I know loves this movie to pieces. I just wonder if people overtime will get sick of all the ongoing Marvel content and if Marvel will release any other rotten apples? Marvel has had a couple of weaker films like Captain Marvel, The Incredible Hulk, Eternals, Thor 1-2, Ironman 2-3, and Black Widow, but they still hold up to any DC movie you can think of. Just my opinion, that's just me standing on my soapbox, I'm okay if you 100% disagree with what I saw. Be respectful, I understand you thought it was average, but I found it to be an almost Endgame level experience when watching it for the first time at the theaters and that makes this movie priceless in my eyes. Quote
bradreed715 Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 2 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: Yeah, true. I would probably be one slaughtering them lol. When the shock and the hype died down tho, I realised how... average this movie really was. I wouldn't say it's average in terms of the things it accomplished but the film as a whole just isn't great but a bunch of amazing things put together and it's always been like that. Extremely, extremely overhyped 41 minutes ago, Flaming Bricks said: That is true, slaughtered is a harsh work. Webbed makes more sense, you know, because we're still talking about Spiderman NWH I hope you change your mind when Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness releases. That's the next Marvel movie I'm most hyped for. Did you think it was average, because you thought it was oversaturated in fan service and cameos? I bet Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness will have plenty of cameos and jaw dropping moments to make fans jump from their seats. Spiderman NWH was an outstanding experience in the cinema, but I wonder if it will hold up for me when I watch it from home on a DVD or Blu-Ray. It was very hyped, almost or even more hyped than Endgame was, but Endgame was an end of an era. NWH is a new start for the webslinger and I wonder what happens next. If they make Spiderman 4,5, and 6, will people get sick of seeing Tom Holland or will they continue to beg Marvel to keep him as Spiderman for the forseeable future? I'm just surprised, because everyone else I've seen on the internet and that I know loves this movie to pieces. I just wonder if people overtime will get sick of all the ongoing Marvel content and if Marvel will release any other rotten apples? Marvel has had a couple of weaker films like Captain Marvel, The Incredible Hulk, Eternals, Thor 1-2, Ironman 2-3, and Black Widow, but they still hold up to any DC movie you can think of. Just my opinion, that's just me standing on my soapbox, I'm okay if you 100% disagree with what I saw. Be respectful, I understand you thought it was average, but I found it to be an almost Endgame level experience when watching it for the first time at the theaters and that makes this movie priceless in my eyes. That's what makes me not excited for MOM. It's not even hyped as a film about Doctor Strange anymore but just as a "cameo fest" of things to point at and say "look I remember that" and a trailer for films to come if people get what they want and the X-Men are haphazardly introduced in MOM Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 38 minutes ago, Flaming Bricks said: That is true, slaughtered is a harsh work. Webbed makes more sense, you know, because we're still talking about Spiderman NWH I hope you change your mind when Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness releases. That's the next Marvel movie I'm most hyped for. Did you think it was average, because you thought it was oversaturated in fan service and cameos? I bet Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness will have plenty of cameos and jaw dropping moments to make fans jump from their seats. Spiderman NWH was an outstanding experience in the cinema, but I wonder if it will hold up for me when I watch it from home on a DVD or Blu-Ray. It was very hyped, almost or even more hyped than Endgame was, but Endgame was an end of an era. NWH is a new start for the webslinger and I wonder what happens next. If they make Spiderman 4,5, and 6, will people get sick of seeing Tom Holland or will they continue to beg Marvel to keep him as Spiderman for the forseeable future? I'm just surprised, because everyone else I've seen on the internet and that I know loves this movie to pieces. I just wonder if people overtime will get sick of all the ongoing Marvel content and if Marvel will release any other rotten apples? Marvel has had a couple of weaker films like Captain Marvel, The Incredible Hulk, Eternals, Thor 1-2, Ironman 2-3, and Black Widow, but they still hold up to any DC movie you can think of. Just my opinion, that's just me standing on my soapbox, I'm okay if you 100% disagree with what I saw. Be respectful, I understand you thought it was average, but I found it to be an almost Endgame level experience when watching it for the first time at the theaters and that makes this movie priceless in my eyes. Doctor Strange is my least excited MCU movie to be released, except for Wakanda Forever. I've read the plot leaks, and it sounds like the absolute worst MCU movie ever made. Truly terrible. As for NWH, fan service was actually the part that I enjoyed the most. What I didn't like is how terrible a movie with three Spider-Men looked (the CGI and other visual aspects), and especially the ending. I can't phrase how much I hate it. It also ruined the whole trilogy for me (strong word because I can't find a more delicate one). His journey in each movie is literally the same, and Peter doesn't evolve. Quote
PsychoBuilder Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 And so we have entered the stage where we declare the film overrated. I’m not commenting on it for fear of being struck down by the mods, but I think NWH sets would do pretty well regardless of when they come out. I mean the Infinity Saga ones have, and it had been more than like two years since Endgame came out. Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, bradreed715 said: I wouldn't say it's average in terms of the things it accomplished but the film as a whole just isn't great but a bunch of amazing things put together and it's always been like that. Extremely, extremely overhyped That's what makes me not excited for MOM. It's not even hyped as a film about Doctor Strange anymore but just as a "cameo fest" of things to point at and say "look I remember that" and a trailer for films to come if people get what they want and the X-Men are haphazardly introduced in MOM Yeah, exactly. It was a great experience, but a really average movie. Also, perfectly phrased my Doctor Strange thoughts. The titular hero will get lost in this movie. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 ...I thought this was a thread about LEGO sets. Have I accidentally stumbled upon Film Twitter or something? Quote
Scarilian Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) I can understand losing interest in a potential set due to film hype dying down, but I think the appeal for a potential set comes primarily from the villains and heroes who either have not featured in Lego sets before or are generally only available for extreme prices. Lizard has not been released at all in Lego and I'm curious to see how they would do MCU Lizard, the best bet I can think of would be something akin to Korg, with a tail and perhaps different legs. 19 hours ago, The_Fiery_Rooster said: Yeah, this year has been a mess of fake leaks so far. First it was the Raimi sets, then the fake minifig series, after that the Uncharted set, the tower of fate, this guy on Eurobricks, and sprinkle in a few fake star wars set names for good measure. I really think we, as a community, have to do something about this before this spirals more out of control than it already has. I think to an extent Lego may have had a direct influence in this, the timing of everything seems too much of a coincidence and they would obviously want to throw a lot of random false information out there to obscure actual plans they have for the 90th anniversary of Lego, let alone the specific anniversaries of certain themes. The first notable scenario for me is Thor's Hammer. We initially had rumours about Thor's Hammer in mid December along with the later reveal of 76209 being a Marvel set, at one stage in my summary of sets I even speculated it could be 76209, but reliable leakers were then presumably fed information from sources they felt were reliable that resulted in them labelling 76209 as a DC set. This to me seems like the most likely option, reliable sources being misled sparking other reliable sources to report on them. I expect the same can be said for other scenarios. Nothing can be done about this scenario other than taking most information with salt until we get more information on the subject. In general you'd be best sticking to sources who have proven themselves repeatedly reliable, it is not a sure fire method, but it does produce results. The primary method that we get leaks requires a foundation of trust as it is rare for leakers to risk exposing their role via sending information they could use to back-up the source. 18 minutes ago, bradreed715 said: That's what makes me not excited for MOM. It's not even hyped as a film about Doctor Strange anymore but just as a "cameo fest" of things to point at and say "look I remember that" and a trailer for films to come if people get what they want and the X-Men are haphazardly introduced in MOM Doctor Strange 2, I fear, is going to have a similar problem to Spider-man 3, studio meddling. At the moment Raimi does not know if the film is completed or not and he's the director, this should never happen and shows a lot of studio interference. This was already a concern when the project went from being a horror movie with Nightmare as the main villain exploring the darkness within Doctor Strange to being primarily a Wanda focused multiverse movie. I'm worried Marvel is too afraid to let characters stand on their own anymore after Endgame, so are pushing them into team-ups to appeal to the largest demographic. Edited February 8, 2022 by Scarilian Quote
bradreed715 Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: Yeah, exactly. It was a great experience, but a really average movie. Also, perfectly phrased my Doctor Strange thoughts. The titular hero will get lost in this movie. Thank you. I still would be interesting with sets especially with the villains. I really want Ock, Electro and Gobby. Quote
Buckethead Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 1 55 minutes ago, Scarilian said: Doctor Strange 2, I fear, is going to have a similar problem to Spider-man 3, studio meddling. At the moment Raimi does not know if the film is completed or not and he's the director, this should never happen and shows a lot of studio interference. This was already a concern when the project went from being a horror movie with Nightmare as the main villain exploring the darkness within Doctor Strange to being primarily a Wanda focused multiverse movie. I'm worried Marvel is too afraid to let characters stand on their own anymore after Endgame, so are pushing them into team-ups to appeal to the largest demographic. Tbf, studio meddling isn't an inherently bad thing. Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield's inclusion were studio meddling, and that was a highlight of Spider-Man: NWH. I'm not the director, and I know the film's not finished. I wouldn't expect Marvel movies (or most films) to be done this early. Also, Doctor Strange is still the main character. Supreme Strange and Defender Strange, portrayed through recent merchandise, are the trope of the angel and demon on your shoulders. Supreme Strange will likely reflect Stephen's inner darkness, while Defender Strange will likely reflect the more heroic attributes of his character. 1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: Doctor Strange is my least excited MCU movie to be released, except for Wakanda Forever. I've read the plot leaks, and it sounds like the absolute worst MCU movie ever made. Truly terrible. As for NWH, fan service was actually the part that I enjoyed the most. The worst? I don't expect Marvel movies to be high-level cinema, but I find it weird to claim a movie is terrible based on a plot leak. Quote
bradreed715 Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scarilian said: I can understand losing interest in a potential set due to film hype dying down, but I think the appeal for a potential set comes primarily from the villains and heroes who either have not featured in Lego sets before or are generally only available for extreme prices. Lizard has not been released at all in Lego and I'm curious to see how they would do MCU Lizard, the best bet I can think of would be something akin to Korg, with a tail and perhaps different legs. I think to an extent Lego may have had a direct influence in this, the timing of everything seems too much of a coincidence and they would obviously want to throw a lot of random false information out there to obscure actual plans they have for the 90th anniversary of Lego, let alone the specific anniversaries of certain themes. The first notable scenario for me is Thor's Hammer. We initially had rumours about Thor's Hammer in mid December along with the later reveal of 76209 being a Marvel set, at one stage in my summary of sets I even speculated it could be 76209, but reliable leakers were then presumably fed information from sources they felt were reliable that resulted in them labelling 76209 as a DC set. This to me seems like the most likely option, reliable sources being misled sparking other reliable sources to report on them. I expect the same can be said for other scenarios. Nothing can be done about this scenario other than taking most information with salt until we get more information on the subject. In general you'd be best sticking to sources who have proven themselves repeatedly reliable, it is not a sure fire method, but it does produce results. The primary method that we get leaks requires a foundation of trust as it is rare for leakers to risk exposing their role via sending information they could use to back-up the source. Doctor Strange 2, I fear, is going to have a similar problem to Spider-man 3, studio meddling. At the moment Raimi does not know if the film is completed or not and he's the director, this should never happen and shows a lot of studio interference. This was already a concern when the project went from being a horror movie with Nightmare as the main villain exploring the darkness within Doctor Strange to being primarily a Wanda focused multiverse movie. I'm worried Marvel is too afraid to let characters stand on their own anymore after Endgame, so are pushing them into team-ups to appeal to the largest demographic. Yep. I’ve said this from the beginning of all the leaks and rumors and have been harassed on every platform imaginable for “not trusting marvel” but to me it just sounds like fan service is marvel’s new thing in this age of leaks and hype from random tik tokers who get invited to all the premieres. I love Marvel but man this one has me scared. Much more excited for love and thunder (when are those sets getting leaked) and Black Adam for the better Doctor Strange (Doctor Fate) 2 minutes ago, Buckethead said: Tbf, studio meddling isn't an inherently bad thing. Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield's inclusion were studio meddling, and that was a highlight of Spider-Man: NWH. I'm not the director, and I know the film's not finished. I wouldn't expect Marvel movies (or most films) to be done this early. Also, Doctor Strange is still the main character. Supreme Strange and Defender Strange, portrayed through recent merchandise, are the trope of the angel and demon on your shoulders. Supreme Strange will likely reflect Stephen's inner darkness, while Defender Strange will likely reflect the more heroic attributes of his character. The worst? I don't expect Marvel movies to be high-level cinema, but I find it weird to claim a movie is terrible based on a plot leak. I wouldn’t say it sounds like an awful film it just doesn’t sound like a film. It sounds like a YouTube video complication of as many cameos as they can fit in and a decent plot for a better movie somewhere in there. Doctor Strange has never been a “multiverse” hero so idk why that’s the thing now. As you mentioned the different versions of strange are appealing and sound like the better parts of the film Edited February 8, 2022 by bradreed715 Quote
NovaBricks Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Flaming Bricks said: Spiderman NWH was an outstanding experience in the cinema, but I wonder if it will hold up for me when I watch it from home on a DVD or Blu-Ray. It won't. There are going to be some really awkward pauses where they knew the audience would be cheering, particularly when Andrew and Tobey show up. Between that and how obvious it is that Ifans and Hayden-Church never were on set, I think this one's gonna fall apart a bit on rewatch. It's gonna be very obvious how it's a movie of spliced ideas. That being said, still way better than FFH. Quote
SpiderJazz Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: ...I thought this was a thread about LEGO sets. Have I accidentally stumbled upon Film Twitter or something? Lmao. Think they should stop discussing the success of the film before a moderator steps in. 48 minutes ago, bradreed715 said: Thank you. I still would be interesting with sets especially with the villains. I really want Ock, Electro and Gobby. I really really wanted to get those villains, I don’t know about Spideys inclusion because of the secrecy, I still believe, we will have a spoilery set in the future. Quote
PGBQW Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 I thought the movie was alright, just your average superhero movie. But in any case, I'd still love to get at least one more set for it! I don't even care for accuracy in the slightest, I'm just interested in getting cool looking minifigures. Quote
Lion King Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 5 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: ...I thought this was a thread about LEGO sets. Have I accidentally stumbled upon Film Twitter or something? Should we summon a moderator then? Quote
NeutralNoodle Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 3 hours ago, PGBQW said: I thought the movie was alright, just your average superhero movie. But in any case, I'd still love to get at least one more set for it! I don't even care for accuracy in the slightest, I'm just interested in getting cool looking minifigures. Same, I just want updated Tobey and Andrew figures and the final Goblin suit. I would take an accessory pack at this point, I just need those three. Quote
NovaBricks Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, NeutralNoodle said: Same, I just want updated Tobey and Andrew figures and the final Goblin suit. I would take an accessory pack at this point, I just need those three. I wouldn't be opposed to Jamie Foxx Electro with the star mask. Quote
bradreed715 Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 3 hours ago, DBlegonerd7 said: Should we summon a moderator then? As if these comments add anything better to the conversation Quote
TurnOffTheDark Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 y'all I mentioned NWH because I want accurate sets based on it, I never meant to start a war where we tear it apart as a average film lmao. idc what anyone says though, it is an amazing movie and it thematically understands Spider-Man on a fundamental level not seen in the previous 2 MCU solo movies with him in it. This movie is a lego set gold mine Quote
Scarilian Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 I feel the lack of new information and sets releases is a contributing factor to our current boredom :p Once we get past this month, every month should give us at least 1 new Lego set for us to discuss. April is full of Mech's and we'll hopefully get the reveal of 76218 after (Unless it leaks sooner) and then May will be primarily people modding or discussing modding that set. 50 minutes ago, TurnOffTheDark said: This movie is a lego set gold mine Indeed, it'd also work well as a method of giving us something from the past - so they could easily give us them marketted as 'legacy sets' at some point in the future. I'm still expecting them to do more Spider-man stuff in the later half of the year, even if it's not tied to NWH. Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 Seriously, we haven't heard anything in such a long time, except for Thor's Hammer coming out of nowhere. Quote
Flaming Bricks Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, TurnOffTheDark said: y'all I mentioned NWH because I want accurate sets based on it, I never meant to start a war where we tear it apart as a average film lmao. idc what anyone says though, it is an amazing movie and it thematically understands Spider-Man on a fundamental level not seen in the previous 2 MCU solo movies with him in it. This movie is a lego set gold mine I know you were just wanting NWH accurate sets, I want those sets to be made too. I'm not sure if I made anything better, because I was surprised that lots of people considered the movie to be average. The movie was amazing, but it's not worth a big argument over a Eurobricks forum. I agree that this film, unlike the previous 2, really understood Spider-Man and showed his selflessness. Spider-Man NWH really is a gold mine for Lego sets that would sell so well and it would be a missed opportunity for Lego if they didn't revisit this film in the future. 11 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: Seriously, we haven't heard anything in such a long time, except for Thor's Hammer coming out of nowhere. Ya I agree, I really want to hear and see more Lego Marvel leaks/official pictures. Soon Lego should reveal pictures for some of the April Marvel sets, like the Thor L&T and Ant-Man mech sets. Quote
BlueberryWaffles Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 I would be shocked if we don't eventually get more NWH content. It's like the sixth highest grossing movie of all time or something? Even if it takes until 2023, it'll come. Just think about how long it took to get an accurate Endgame final battle set. Quote
Flaming Bricks Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 3 hours ago, BlueberryWaffles said: I would be shocked if we don't eventually get more NWH content. It's like the sixth highest grossing movie of all time or something? Even if it takes until 2023, it'll come. Just think about how long it took to get an accurate Endgame final battle set. Ya that accurate Infinity Saga Endgame final battle set took some time to get made, but it was worth the wait. I hope that by next year we'll get accurate NWH sets. Like a Statue of Liberty battle set with Tobey, Tom, Andrew, Green Goblin, Doc Oc, Electro, Sandman, Lizard, Doctor Strange, MJ, and Ned. That sounds like the perfect set, because that's all I really want for Lego to make from NWH. Quote
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