Wizarding World 2022 - Rumors & Discussion

[BrickBob Studpants]

Taking this all with a grain of salt until reputable leakers confirm it  We‘ve been bamboozled before!

[Legocentrico]

2 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Taking this all with a grain of salt until reputable leakers confirm it  We‘ve been bamboozled before!

I asked in the Marvel section, they say pricyplastic is a reliable leaker……

[Falconfan1414]

35 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Taking this all with a grain of salt until reputable leakers confirm it  We‘ve been bamboozled before!

Do I count 

Edited December 25, 2022 by Falconfan1414

[BrickBob Studpants]

7 minutes ago, Falconfan1414 said:

Do I count 

Yes, of course! You support these claims, then?

[Ravenclaw62442]

1 hour ago, Huigberts Builds said:

Maybe, but it's 18+ rather than 16+ like the other diagon alley buildings. Not sure if that means anything, but it could indicate that it might be something completely different. You would think a Gringotts would be a similar building experience as the rest of diagon alley.

I think the adult branding has become a bit more uniform since the Diagon Alley set. 18+ wouldn’t surprise me at all. 

[TandNbricks]

1 hour ago, Falconfan1414 said:

Do I count 

I second that question

Also you do Falcon, love you bro

[BrickBob Studpants]

4 minutes ago, TandNbricks said:

I second that question

Also you do Falcon, love you bro

You count too

[THELEGOBATMAN]

12 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Yes, of course! You support these claims, then?

Well I mean the same info is on his Instagram page, so...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CmmReRdL2Sw/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[Ravenclaw62442]

September CMF will be licensed. 
 

Hopefully HP Wave 3 and not more Marvel nonsense 😅

[krimimimi]

So off a catalogue excerpt it looks like there'll be HP lego dots next year. I assume those haven't been counted as sets in the other lists?

[MaxHeadroom]

I got the Sirius Rescue set as a Christmas gift and while I wasn’t planning on buying it myself I was pretty happy to get it since I did think it looked good when it was revealed despite most people being critical of it. After building it, what an awful set! First and foremost the colors for the stickers are closer to white than tan. They were a bit too dark in 2018/19 and perfect in 2020, why can’t they match the color anymore? I compared with the staircase promo and that also has the same bright stickers although they don’t suck out as badly there. Frankly it looks like it’s either a bootleg or been sitting in direct sunlight for half a century. It’s completely unacceptable imo, especially with the box and product images making it actually match the color of the tan parts.

The build itself is also a let down. I didn’t mind the grated floors but the wedge floors are a cost cutting measure too far (at least for the courtyard itself, I can excuse the “roof” sections).  The parts budget for the useless barrel and chicken leg thing with nowhere to go should’ve been spent on proper floors kids could’ve played with. Unless the courtyard modules are on the ground level they’re completely useless for this multilevel hogwarts system. Considering this is meant to be an interior based system though, doing a two layer 8x16 courtyard was a strange choice in the first place. None of the interiors in this set are good anyway though. Really they should’ve cut the whole bottom layer (as much as I like seeing the spiral staircase again) and sold the set for $25 (even cutting the Hermionie figure if they needed to). They also should’ve fixed the awful buckbeak color. I’ve got the original sure but the kids who don’t deserve better. Sorry for my initial positivity when the set was revealed, I was too swept up in seeing curved castle elements again. The people who complained were right. 

[sebastian666]

Happy Christmas everyone. So here’s what we know about the LEGO Harry Potter - Summer 2023 wave according to the leaks:

76414 - $64.99 - 754 pieces

76415 - $79.99 - 730 pieces

76416 - $64.99 - 599 pieces

76418 - $???? - 227 pieces - Advent Calendar

76419 - $???? - 2660 pieces - D2C

76421 - $???? - 403 pieces

76422 - $89.99 - ??? pieces

76423 - $129.99 - ??? pieces 

Did I get that right? I heard something about a second D2C set as well… 

Based on what’s been confirmed by trusted leakers above, here are my predictions. Would love to hear what other folks are thinking too.

 

76414 - $64.99 - 754 pieces 

Hogwarts - Defense Against the Dark Arts

w/ Lockhart, Dragon Skeleton, and Cornish Pixies

 

76415 - $79.99 - 730 pieces

Quidditch World Cup

w/ Weasley Tent, Death Eaters, International Quidditch Players

 

76416 - $64.99 - 599 pieces

Hagrid’s Hut - Detention in the Enchanted Forest

w/ Moleskin Coat Hagrid, Fang, Unicorn

 

76418 - $???? - 227 pieces

Advent Calendar

 

76419 - $???? - 2660 pieces

D2C Diagon Alley - Gringott’s Bank

 

76421 - $???? - 403 pieces

Hogwarts - Troll in the Dungeon

w/ new Mountain Troll Mold

 

76422 - $89.99 - ??? pieces

Malfoy Manor

w/ Dining Room and Dungeon

 

76423 - $129.99 - ??? pieces

Durmstrang Ship

w/ Giant Squid

On 12/24/2022 at 7:41 PM, Bugbot20082 said:

(Warning this is a long post)

Love getting Rita finally, not my ideal way but we are lucky to get her at all! I’m sure somebody at Lego group is reading this forum and taking notes on our wants :)

I saw people were talking about CMF series 3… I would love it too but I don’t think it’s likely but you never know

 A year or so ago I shared a list of possible series 3, 4 and 5 based on the pattern of the first two, and Many of the characters in that spreadsheet have been made in the last couple of waves of sets (werewolf, Kreacher, Tonks, Pomfrey, Luna with baby Thestral, Grey Lady etc), here it is again for anyone curious:

I definitely think a solid and successful series 3 is still physically  possible with what’s not covered yet, but I agree with other comments that with the theme being evergreen now they are likely saving things for sets to keep the theme alive for longer. 

I'm not making a new spreadsheet as I can’t think of an equal number for each slot any more instead here is my personal complete list of candidates for a given 12 figure CMF series format (down from 16). Some of these could be suitable for an advent calendar or figure pack as it’s mostly new prints and recolours, not a lot of obvious new moulds left to make…

Golden Trio: 

DH1 (will reading or wedding) with broken mirror, snitch, deluminator, pouch bag & Tales of Beedle the Bard book as accessories. 

Or

Young versions wearing new cardigans (Norbert hatching scene) with new moulds of Fang, Norbert and a specific Nimbus 2000 mould 

Or 

Y3 Hogsmeade variants with accurate hats etc (snowball scene), could come with new pints of sweets or an exclusive chocolate frog card each such as Merlin, Karkaroff and Grindelwald etc

 

Dark wizard, pick 1:

Lucius Malfoy (Y5 Death Eater, mask print on head reverse), with prophesy and new staff snake head top

Voldemort with angry grimacing expression and the large black flying/smoke stand

 

Students (combined with the old Neville and Luna slot) pick any 3:

Lee Jordon & quidditch scoreboard

Y4 Draco Malfoy in robes & ferret

Tom Riddle (Slughorn’s memory) & the ring 

Luna Lovegood (wedding)

Ginny Weasley (wedding) with Pygmy puff

Percy Weasley a new hat/hair mould and new printed flying Errol the great grey owl 

Cormac Mclaggen (quidditch, with brown shoulder pads)

Y1 Neville in pyjamas with a new giant toad specifically for Trevor/singing toads, (doesn’t replace the classic frog)

Y4 Neville in lake task clothes, earmuffs, gillyweed printed tile.

Y5 Neville with striped cardigan and mimbulus mimbletonia

Ramilda Vane (with love chocolates, card etc)

2nd task Fleur with grindylow variant, bubble face print

2nd task Cedric with grindylow variant, bubble face print

Cho Chang (winter clothes or 2nd task robes) perhaps with a new flying owl print/colour

Seamus Finnigan (Y5/6) with new fox mould as a patronus. We have only had him with short legs so far. 

Young Newt Scamander in robes with new bowtruckle 

 

Hogwarts resident (includes the old Dumbledore slot), pick any 2: 

Y6 Dumbledore (grey hand) with new flying Phoenix (pose similar to the Flying eagle) 

The Bloody Barron (new wig mould)

The Fat Friar 

younger Slughorn from the memory with a new green hourglass, could also be in his striped pyjamas. 

Lockheart in his gold teaching cloak with a pixie variant 

Lockheart in his duelling club outfit with a black cobra

Lockheart in green cloak from the quidditch scene, perhaps with one of his books

Professor Vector 

 

Magical creature, pick 1:

Gringots Head Goblin with newspaper reporting the PS break-in. New mould for a bald goblin with long ears sticking out sideways.

Firenze the centaur (But I would much rather have an actual Forest set with a new Hagrid with moleskin coat etc)

 

Other characters from the wizarding world (includes old OotP slot) pick any 2:

Karkaroff* (white coat) & gold staf  

Xenopheliois Lovegood (gold wedding suit) 

Narcissa Malfoy

Aberforth Dumbledore with goat patronus

Aunt Marge with ripper 

Fudge (Wizardingmort), gabble, new hat 

Rufus Scrimgeour, printed tile will, suitcase. (I think this figure would be good in a store exclusive character pack)

New Mrs Weasley variant with a new hat/hair combo mould (platform scene) 

Sirius Black (train station or a different suit variant), OotP photo.

*put his less interesting black outfit in a ship set, Barty Crouch Sr too.

 

Love this list. Now that a licensed CMF series has been confirmed for next year, maybe there is a chance we could get Wizarding World 3. I think LEGO would be smart to treat next year’s release of Hogwarts Legacy as a bigger moment for the franchise’s popularity than the Fantastic Beasts movies. One group of characters I would add to the list of potential CMF 3 figures would be new minifigs of the Founders - Godric Gryffindor, Salazar Slytherin, Rowena Racenclaw, and Helga Hufflepuff - with new molds for their horcruxes. 

[PsychoBuilder]

Hmmm. I gotta say, I don't love the recent price trends of HP. I've always felt that it is one of the most reasonably priced themes, especially compared to other licensed ones such as Marvel or Star Wars. It was undoubtedly starting to go up this year with examples such as the Shrieking Shack and Grimmauld Place, but with the May wave and some of the leaked prices, I am concerned we are going to start seeing sets with worse and worse ppp ratios. 

[Accio Lego]

51 minutes ago, sebastian666 said:

Happy Christmas everyone. So here’s what we know about the LEGO Harry Potter - Summer 2023 wave according to the leaks:

76414 - $64.99 - 754 pieces

76415 - $79.99 - 730 pieces

76416 - $64.99 - 599 pieces

76418 - $???? - 227 pieces - Advent Calendar

 76419 - $???? - 2660 pieces - D2C

76421 - $???? - 403 pieces

76422 - $89.99 - ??? pieces

 76423 - $129.99 - ??? pieces 

While I’ve got some trepidation over the general skewing of set prices towards the higher end of the spectrum, I’m very excited to see what looks to be a complete list for next year’s summer wave. Especially a D2C that so far seems to fit the parameters we’d expect for Gringott’s. 
 

If nothing else, I think there’s a good chance we’ll see the Ukrainian Ironbelly - 76414’s price and piece count suggest another addition to the kinetic sculpture line, and being designed to have three minifigures clinging to the back instead of one out front would neatly explain the price bump from this year’s Horntail. 
 

As for the rest, I don’t want to weigh in yet. But I do think we should only expect one or two DH sets (barring the D2C and kinetic sculpture), and for them to be balanced out by an early movie set featuring the short legs, with GoF/OotP sets filling out the rest of the wave. Lego’s strategy for doing sets from the not strictly kid friendly movies seems to be balancing out the sets older collectors want: this year’s DH Ministry set came alongside the SS/CoS Dumbledore’s Office, next March’s RoR battle set is coming alongside the four gimmicky banners with the lenticular backdrops kids will be fascinated with, even 2020 with its largely OotP/HBP wave had the CoS Privet Drive set included. So I’m expecting so see a throwback set somewhere this year, possibly Hagrid’s Hut featuring Norbert and Fang or the return of Quidditch, although that doesn’t rule out something ‘new’ like the winged key challenge or final showdown with Quirrel, and given how much lego loves the Ford Anglia I wouldn’t rule out something like an ‘Escape from Aragog’ set (which would be another opportunity to give us Fang). 
 

The September ’23 cmf being licensed is also intriguing news. That’s when we’re supposed to see the switch from bags to boxes which Lego must know will be a shaky transition. The general theory is that Lego is making this particular series licensed because they’ve chosen an IP that they know will sell well even if some collectors dislike the new packaging format. With the Disney 100 series slated for May, previous solidly popular licensed series were Harry Potter and the Marvel Disney+ series. It’s also not out of the question that it could be a new IP like the LOTR and D&D themes that we know are coming soon. But in my opinion Harry Potter and Marvel are historically more kid friendly, and Lego has to realize that they need a theme that will still highly appeal to kids when AFOLs collectors will be wary of the changeover. 

[Huigberts Builds]

29 minutes ago, Accio Lego said:

and given how much lego loves the Ford Anglia I wouldn’t rule out something like an ‘Escape from Aragog’ set (which would be another opportunity to give us Fang). 

I was thinking the same thing, especially since the previous Aragog was pretty simplistic. And I believe it was one of, if not the first set from the 2018 wave that retired, so definitely one that deserves an update.

[sebastian666]

51 minutes ago, Accio Lego said:

If nothing else, I think there’s a good chance we’ll see the Ukrainian Ironbelly - 76414’s price and piece count suggest another addition to the kinetic sculpture line, and being designed to have three minifigures clinging to the back instead of one out front would neatly explain the price bump from this year’s Horntail. 
 

This is interesting! I’m updating my expectations for 76414 with this info. My only thought is that most folks would hope to display the Ukrainian Ironbelly atop Gringott’s and the design of the current kinetic sculptures doesn’t allow for much (any) posability.

If the D2C is in fact Gringott’s as the piece count might suggest, does anyone think we will be getting a Ukrainian Ironbelly in the D2C? Or would it really have to be a separate set to be done right?

[Lemerbrix]

3 hours ago, sebastian666 said:

Happy Christmas everyone. So here’s what we know about the LEGO Harry Potter - Summer 2023 wave according to the leaks:

76414 - $64.99 - 754 pieces

76415 - $79.99 - 730 pieces

76416 - $64.99 - 599 pieces

76418 - $???? - 227 pieces - Advent Calendar

76419 - $???? - 2660 pieces - D2C

76421 - $???? - 403 pieces

76422 - $89.99 - ??? pieces

76423 - $129.99 - ??? pieces 

Did I get that right? I heard something about a second D2C set as well… 

Based on what’s been confirmed by trusted leakers above, here are my predictions. Would love to hear what other folks are thinking too.

 

76414 - $64.99 - 754 pieces 

Hogwarts - Defense Against the Dark Arts

w/ Lockhart, Dragon Skeleton, and Cornish Pixies

 

76415 - $79.99 - 730 pieces

Quidditch World Cup

w/ Weasley Tent, Death Eaters, International Quidditch Players

 

76416 - $64.99 - 599 pieces

Hagrid’s Hut - Detention in the Enchanted Forest

w/ Moleskin Coat Hagrid, Fang, Unicorn

 

76418 - $???? - 227 pieces

Advent Calendar

 

76419 - $???? - 2660 pieces

D2C Diagon Alley - Gringott’s Bank

 

76421 - $???? - 403 pieces

Hogwarts - Troll in the Dungeon

w/ new Mountain Troll Mold

 

76422 - $89.99 - ??? pieces

Malfoy Manor

w/ Dining Room and Dungeon

 

76423 - $129.99 - ??? pieces

Durmstrang Ship

w/ Giant Squid

Love this list. Now that a licensed CMF series has been confirmed for next year, maybe there is a chance we could get Wizarding World 3. I think LEGO would be smart to treat next year’s release of Hogwarts Legacy as a bigger moment for the franchise’s popularity than the Fantastic Beasts movies. One group of characters I would add to the list of potential CMF 3 figures would be new minifigs of the Founders - Godric Gryffindor, Salazar Slytherin, Rowena Racenclaw, and Helga Hufflepuff - with new molds for their horcruxes. 

Nice ideas, kinda doubt Lego would do malfoy manor (in the original Harry Potter line there was supposed to be a malfoy manor set, but it was canceled due to 

Spoiler

Dobbys death

Source: just2good)

also the mountain troll set I doubt because last year we got a hogwarts bathroom (I know that those are two different bathrooms, but I’m just saying that it will be more or less the same

also, we are way overdue for fang, 21 years later, and we still don’t have hagrids good boy, part of me thinks they could reuse the new Labrador style dog from Lego friends, but I doubt it, also we got a datda classroom last year, we don’t need another, also, do we really need the hogwarts giant squid?

[Accio Lego]

1 hour ago, Huigberts Builds said:

I was thinking the same thing, especially since the previous Aragog was pretty simplistic. And I believe it was one of, if not the first set from the 2018 wave that retired, so definitely one that deserves an update.

Yeah, while I was spitballing ideas in my head it occurred to me that the feral Ford Anglia from the forbidden forest scene is the only version of the car lego hasn’t done over the years, and Aragog hasn’t been done as anything other than the barest of bones version since his lego debut in 2002 (although the 2018 was very well done for its minimal budget), so it would be interesting to see him done in one of the sets in this larger leaning wave. 
 

55 minutes ago, sebastian666 said:

This is interesting! I’m updating my expectations for 76414 with this info. My only thought is that most folks would hope to display the Ukrainian Ironbelly atop Gringott’s and the design of the current kinetic sculptures doesn’t allow for much (any) posability.

If the D2C is in fact Gringott’s as the piece count might suggest, does anyone think we will be getting a Ukrainian Ironbelly in the D2C? Or would it really have to be a separate set to be done right?

Yeah, I feel like lego would feel safe putting out an Ironbelly playset rated for kids at the same time as a Gringott’s with a sculptural version of the dragon on top. The Icons Collection featuring Hedwig came out just a year after the Hedwig kinetic set, and as far as I can tell neither set’s sales were particularly hurt by the overlap. And ultimately a Ironbelly sculpted right on top of the bank and not designed to be moved (similar to the Icons Hedwig) is going to be much more stable and sturdy than an articulated playset thrown on top, not to mention looking a whole lot better (which, considering an 18+ D2C is going to be marketed more as a display piece…). So it’s completely believable that lego would do an Ironbelly on an 18+ Gringott’s and another, ‘kid friendly’, version on its own. 

[Ferder]

One of the Lego designer Instagram accounts (jbspielwaren) has posted some great photos of the Spring 2023 sets. Nice to see actual photos and not just CGI images. Room of Requirements actually looks great when it’s folded up and all the objects are stacked in their proper place. It looks fittingly full of clutter. 
 

Also, in the Gryffindor banner set I can see Sirius Black’s face in the fireplace! Never noticed that before.  
 

 

Edited December 27, 2022 by Ferder

[Accio Lego]

48 minutes ago, Ferder said:

One of the Lego designer Instagram accounts (jbspielwaren) has posted some great photos of the Spring 2023 sets. Nice to see actual photos and not just CGI images. Room of Requirements actually looks great when it’s folded up and all the objects are stacked in their proper place. It looks fittingly full of clutter. 
 

Also, in the Gryffindor banner set I can see Sirius Black’s face in the fireplace! Never noticed that before.  
 

 

The biggest problem with a Room of Hidden Things set was always going to be the density of junk and clutter. In a commercial set the priority for the budget has to go towards the actual structure, the play features, and the minifigures, with the piles of junk taking a major backseat. It’s no surprise that the designers were only able to include the bare minimum and the set looks best when configured into its smallest footprint so the piles of junk look as cluttered as they possibly can. Personally, I think the set will look better with more piles of stuff added, and plan to raid my stash of parts once I get my hands on it. 
 

Don’t feel bad about missing the Sirius head in the fireplace before - it wasn’t in the official renders at all. That’s the magic of lenticulars, shifting between multiple images to mimic movement and add depth. Lego just decided to only feature the regular fire in their marketing images for some reason. If you look closely at the different images you’ll also notice Gryffindor raising and lowering one of his arms and a hippogriff flying past in the small upper windows. I imagine this won’t be the only Easter egg hidden in the lenticular backdrops either - we’ve already seen the Niffler in the Hufflepuff banner that I’m sure pops in and out from behind his little curtain. 

[Salix]

3 hours ago, Ferder said:

One of the Lego designer Instagram accounts (jbspielwaren) has posted some great photos of the Spring 2023 sets.

JB Spielwaren is a German toy store.

Edited December 27, 2022 by Salix
just one

[krimimimi]

Are we sure 76418 is the Advent Calendar or are we guessing? The piece count (227 pieces) is way down for an AC and with no price listed as yet, it might be one of those smaller budget sets this year seems to be missing (aside from the gimmicky Banners, that is, and they still aren't anywhere close to the 20 EUR price point). On the other hand if that means no nanobuilds in the AC... 😃

 

Edit: I was just looking at JB Spielwaren's FB page, and they're up to three sets built now (not sure if the same is true for their IG). I understand the complaints people have with the Room of Requirement/ Hidden Things, but I think it looks great. I'll be very happy to have it, and even like the folding aspect that keeps the footprint smaller. The Grey Lady is a treat (3 ghosts down, 3 to go..). I only had 3 minor quibbles, I was looking forward to two pixies and it appears one is only a sticker; for the door stickers, I'd prefer one sticker that covers the entire door to two of them I'll have problems aligning; and I'll also fight to get the door arch stickers right, but they definitely add something to the build, so... I also like the inclusion of the clear rods to mount things on and give the illusion of characters or Fiendfyre flying about. It's nice to bring more "magic" into the sets.  

The Second Task neatly exceeded all my expectations, too, and I'll have difficulty holding off until the price comes down. Even the banner looks better than expected. I may warm up to them yet. 😆

Edited December 27, 2022 by krimimimi

[MaxHeadroom]

Looking at the spielwaren pics and wow the bright blue legs on DH2 Harry look even cartoonish and silly than the Grimmauld Place figure, not to mention Malloy still having brightly colored hair. 

The pixie sticker remains incredibly tacky and the random clear bars don’t make much sense either, maybe they’re meant for posing flying figures?   The display cases built into pillars are also bizarre. The plethora of pin and axle holes don’t make much sense to me considering the snake didn’t split into a million parts in the movie if I remember right. I definitely wouldn’t need the ones facing the camera in the third pic above the stickers. They just make it look like an unfinished build made out of whatever parts could be found, not an official Lego set. In general seeing it removed from all the roof garbage and with everything in place the main build isn’t THAT bad but it’s still not great.
 

No surprise they avoided photographing the roof sections though, despite those probably taking up a third of the parts budget. The arches and gaps in the construction of the smaller roof are odd, the general existence of the sink room is bizarre (between the polyjuice postion set and this, this Hogwarts system has as many rooms with sinks as classrooms), the scroll room is pointless, and the weird tower that attaches to the side is both pointless and ugly. So many completely useless bits of castle too boring for kids to play with and too ugly for adults to display eating up so much of the set’s budget. Personally I would’ve scrapped all of it and put the parts towards making the ROR configure into different versions (display cases aside the rest of the builds in this version are already removable). Being able to add in the vanishing cabinet or switch out all the junk for a training dummy and a chalkboard would’ve given kids a lot more to do. Still even if they needed to have a lot of roof stuff, a sink and a scroll were really the best they could do? 
 

A nitpick but looking at the official pictures, I noticed that the small side tower uses the standard square window frame to prop up the top of the cylindrical roof instead of the arched window frame like every other roof using that technique in this system has used (afaik) including the other larger cylindrical roof in this very set. I know actual the windows have never been remotely consistent in the 2021+ line but the windows used for structure can’t even be consistent? Honestly feels like a joke. 

[Ferder]

2 hours ago, MaxHeadroom said:

  The display cases built into pillars are also bizarre

 

They’re from the film’s design

Edited December 27, 2022 by Ferder

[Scuhro52]

On 12/25/2022 at 4:10 AM, ZeLuiz08 said:

Sorry if someone already said this, but I didn't see it. Did you notice that LEGO went back on the new brooms? in the 2023 sets they returned to using the classic ones.

Oh? I didn't notice... Wonder if there is any production reason? I really liked the New Ones...