DC Superheroes 2022 - Rumors & Discussion

[THELEGOBATMAN]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

How come the 4+ set hasn’t been revealed yet, at least not officially?  Isn’t it supposed to be released on Monday?!

Yeah, was wondering about that same thing the other day.

It might be one of those sets that just pops up on LEGO's website the day it releases.

It happens, and it's not something pre-order worthy. 

[Anonknee Muss]

7 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

How come the 4+ set hasn’t been revealed yet, at least not officially?  Isn’t it supposed to be released on Monday?!

I thought it came out 1st September?

[THELEGOBATMAN]

So... I guess the 4+ set did not come out yesterday. 

Maybe September 1st is actually the date?

[Robert8]

Dude the Batgirl movie was just cancelled. They are not even releasing it on HBO max

 

I don't blame TLG for keeping the DC movies sets at minimum. They dont even know what they are doing at WB 

[BrickBob Studpants]

...WHAT ON EARTH ARE THEY DOING

[Murdoch17]

49 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

...WHAT ON EARTH ARE THEY DOING

As stated above, WB (apparently) doesn't even know... and it's their franchise.

Edited August 2, 2022 by Murdoch17

[Mandalorianknight]

7 hours ago, Robert8 said:

Dude the Batgirl movie was just cancelled. They are not even releasing it on HBO max

 

I don't blame TLG for keeping the DC movies sets at minimum. They dont even know what they are doing at WB 

And they had been filming that for awhile, too! I was never really excited for this movie, but the fact that they've just straight up deleted it is mind boggling.

Actually... Flash delayed (hopefully cancelled or being re-shot with a new main actor. I'm not generally a fan of that stuff, but when your main guy commits a bajillion violent crimes, what can you do?), Batgirl deleted, Aquaman 2 now supposed to include Batfleck instead of Keaton like previously rumored... Does Keaton want out? I wouldn't blame him after Morbius, it would be totally understandable to not want anything to do with anything superhero or bat related after that!

[RedHoodPug]

Is it any wonder they threw their weight behind Shazam 2 and Black Adam at SDCC? At least those two haven’t got any controversial cast members or anything else that puts them on dodgy ground. Come on Lego, you don’t need to make film tie-in sets all the time, stick to comics based ones. 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

And they had been filming that for awhile, too! I was never really excited for this movie, but the fact that they've just straight up deleted it is mind boggling.

They have actually finished filming it a while ago. It was in the final stages of post production. It cost them $90M.

Absolutely ridiculous. 

[Hoth Rebel]

I wouldn't be suprised if they cancel Flashpoint as well. The return of Ben Affleck as Batman in Auquaman makes me think that, due to all the problems with Batgirl and especially Ezra Millers Flash, perhaps they will change directions and continue with the existing actors/characters. WB/DC also has a new CEO which doesn't seem to be a fan of the route they're going.

LEGO related; if they do cancel or postpone the Flash movie indefinitely then all merchandise for that will be canceled too. 

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, Hoth Rebel said:

LEGO related; if they do cancel or postpone the Flash movie indefinitely then all merchandise for that will be canceled too. 

How would that even work? I assume that merchandising partners would be absolutely furious and demand hefty compensations. Even if the film was cancelled before the set(s) entered production, a lot of money has already been spent on designing the product(s)

[Hoth Rebel]

2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

How would that even work? I assume that merchandising partners would be absolutely furious and demand hefty compensations. Even if the film was cancelled before the set(s) entered production, a lot of money has already been spent on designing the product(s)

I can't imagine WB would approve merchandise of a canceled project (although Flash isn't canceled yet). I assume they have this locked down in contracts with alle the partners. 

LEGO however could work around it by changing the minifigures or adjusting the build so that not everything is lost (kinda like how the 'suicide squad' Bike Chase set isn't based on the movie, but it conveniently came out at the same time) although they would still need approval from WB. But that is probably easier done than a company like McFarlane or Hot Toys as they only make figures of the movie.

Edited August 3, 2022 by Hoth Rebel

[CodFather1]

4 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

How would that even work? I assume that merchandising partners would be absolutely furious and demand hefty compensations. Even if the film was cancelled before the set(s) entered production, a lot of money has already been spent on designing the product(s)

I mean, lego did cancel the Overwatch 2 set weeks before release because of the Blizzard Issues. They wouldn't be happy about it but they have done it in the past.

[Anonknee Muss]

1 hour ago, CodFather1 said:

I mean, lego did cancel the Overwatch 2 set weeks before release because of the Blizzard Issues. They wouldn't be happy about it but they have done it in the past.

No, they post-poned it - seemingly indefinitely.

Going to be honest, I was only going to watch Batgirl for Brendan Fraser but man that sucks big time!

Sets go into production 3 months before release (in most cases) so unless 1st September was going to be the release for the Flash set (highly unlikely as LEGO has started releasing sets 1-2 months before release with the current climate) we won't see the set if the film gets canned. Who knows, if the film gets canned, they might redesign the packaging ans release it anyway. I can only offer speculation.

[Robert8]

Well rumor has it Flash and Blue Beetle will also be cancelled. 

Blue Beetle I believe it, but Flash was too expensive to just throw that money away

 

9 hours ago, RedHoodPug said:

 Lego, you don’t need to make film tie-in sets all the time, stick to comics based ones. 

Agree

Its the best option right now

Or even BTAS. Its the 30 anniversary soon anyway. They released something for Batman 89 anniversary

[Mandalorianknight]

12 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

They have actually finished filming it a while ago. It was in the final stages of post production. It cost them $90M.

Absolutely ridiculous. 

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

You'd think it would be less of a financial loss to just finish and release the film at that point. Can't imagine they'd be spending more on post production and marketing than they'd get from sales, even if the movie was awful. With some smart marketing you could play it in a morbius or minions way, and get at least some sales from teenagers being "ironic".

10 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

How would that even work? I assume that merchandising partners would be absolutely furious and demand hefty compensations. Even if the film was cancelled before the set(s) entered production, a lot of money has already been spent on designing the product(s)

Lego seemingly voluntarily cancelled the overwatch set, so if they're being consistent in their standards they'd cancel the flash set of their own accord, or (what I think will happen) we'll see the same build with altered figures and packaging branded as a generic batman set.

[RedHoodPug]

4 hours ago, Robert8 said:

Well rumor has it Flash and Blue Beetle will also be cancelled. 

Not BB! It would seem that there really was a plan with the brief Comic Con panel. Flash I can understand, Miller is a total liability and if Keaton isn’t going to be in Aquaman 2 or Batgirl, then the multiverse idea is on dodgy ground.

25 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

You'd think it would be less of a financial loss to just finish and release the film at that point. Can't imagine they'd be spending more on post production and marketing than they'd get from sales, even if the movie was awful.

Have you seen the latest that suggests it was canned as a tax dodge?        
 

I think that if Lego pulled the pin on DC right now, I would understand. 

[NovaBricks]

8 hours ago, Hoth Rebel said:

I can't imagine WB would approve merchandise of a canceled project (although Flash isn't canceled yet). I assume they have this locked down in contracts with alle the partners. 

LEGO however could work around it by changing the minifigures or adjusting the build so that not everything is lost (kinda like how the 'suicide squad' Bike Chase set isn't based on the movie, but it conveniently came out at the same time) although they would still need approval from WB. But that is probably easier done than a company like McFarlane or Hot Toys as they only make figures of the movie.

I mean, if it really was/is an updated '89 Batmobile it's a pretty easy pivot. Just replace the non-Batman minifigs and call it a re-release of the GWP or something. Hell, they don't even need an excuse. They put out a Tumbler from 2005 last year. Nothing wrong with just dropping a minifig scale '89 Batmobile. I wouldn't mind if they swapped out The Flash with a Michael Gough minifig!

[Robert8]

14 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

They have actually finished filming it a while ago. It was in the final stages of post production. It cost them $90M.

Absolutely ridiculous. 

Imagine how the people who worked on that feels right now

It's like "your movie is so bad I rather lose $90M than let people watch it"

That must have been like brain-damaging level bad

Edited August 3, 2022 by Robert8

[bradreed715]

1 hour ago, Robert8 said:

Imagine how the people who worked on that feels right now

It's like "your movie is so bad I rather lose $90M than let people watch it"

That must have been like brain-damaging level bad

No it was for a tax write down. Has nothing to do with the quality of the film

[RedHoodPug]

2 hours ago, bradreed715 said:

No it was for a tax write down. Has nothing to do with the quality of the film

See I don’t think that one is true either. They also pulled Scoob 2, dropped a load of home brand films, announced a 70% drop in staffing levels and a step away from scripted content. Discovery+ are baking a cake and eggs are getting cracked. The sad part is those eggs include Peacemaker, Harley Quinn, and Doom Patrol. We’ve had confirmation of the first being renewed, seen a trailer for the second, and nothing new for the third. It looks like a hard reset with a few safe spots.

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, RedHoodPug said:

Have you seen the latest that suggests it was canned as a tax dodge?        

 

8 minutes ago, RedHoodPug said:

See I don’t think that one is true either. They also pulled Scoob 2, dropped a load of home brand films, announced a 70% drop in staffing levels and a step away from scripted content. Discovery+ are baking a cake and eggs are getting cracked. The sad part is those eggs include Peacemaker, Harley Quinn, and Doom Patrol. We’ve had confirmation of the first being renewed, seen a trailer for the second, and nothing new for the third. It looks like a hard reset with a few safe spots.

So not a tax dodge anymore? Today's been seriously hectic for DC.

Honestly I'm fine with losing those. Haven't seen any of Doom Patrol so I won't pass judgement on that, but what I've seen of Peacemaker feels like one of those needlessly nihilistic The Boys style shows and Harley Quinn feels like a generic Family Guy knockoff. What I want from DC is grounded movies like Batman, fun movies like Shazam, and movies that really sell the scale of the mythology, like the Snyder Cut. Plus this way they can make sets out of most of it (or should be able too.... you'd think the new shazam movie would get a whole wave what with the many colorful heroes and fun tone)

3 hours ago, Robert8 said:

Imagine how the people who worked on that feels right now

It's like "your movie is so bad I rather lose $90M than let people watch it"

That must have been like brain-damaging level bad

Brenden Fraser about to retire from acting forever at this point.

[TheBatstan]

7 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Honestly I'm fine with losing those. Haven't seen any of Doom Patrol so I won't pass judgement on that, but what I've seen of Peacemaker feels like one of those needlessly nihilistic The Boys style shows and Harley Quinn feels like a generic Family Guy knockoff.

I haven't seen Doom Patrol either, but Peacemaker is NOTHING like The Boys. The only things I'd say that Peacemaker has in common with The Boys is being able to show blood with the violence scenes, swearing, and one instance of nudity. But tone wise, they couldn't be more far apart. Peacemaker mainly relies on humor and has an actual heart to it, which is what a lot of people have come to expect from a James Gunn product at this point.

Harley Quinn isn't anything like Family Guy either. It's more like a parody of all the DC characters with Harley at the center of it all, with some exceptions like Batman still being the straight man during all this, and it's actually funny instead of just using cutaway gags in every single episode. I'd say give it a chance before you write it off.

Edited August 4, 2022 by TheBatstan

[RedHoodPug]

6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

 

So not a tax dodge anymore? Today's been seriously hectic for DC.

Honestly I'm fine with losing those. Haven't seen any of Doom Patrol so I won't pass judgement on that, but what I've seen of Peacemaker feels like one of those needlessly nihilistic The Boys style shows and Harley Quinn feels like a generic Family Guy knockoff. 

Brenden Fraser about to retire from acting forever at this point.

About three rumours for it came through along with WB dancing around the outside of it. Whatever it is makes DC as an IP to license as much of a liability as Ezra Miller.

As @TheBatstansaid Peacemaker isn’t nihilistic, if anything it gives him purpose and hope to be a better person. Plus the soundtrack is amazing and the opening credits are worth watching just for the sake of it. Harley might be goofy but it’s doing what DC animated series do well and rolling out the characters that don’t get a regular airing. Doom Patrol is something else entirely.

Hopefully not, but I wouldn’t blame him if he did.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

10 hours ago, Robert8 said:

Imagine how the people who worked on that feels right now

It's like "your movie is so bad I rather lose $90M than let people watch it"

That must have been like brain-damaging level bad

It was more about the money. They calculated that taxing it down will make them more money then investing further in this movie.

As for the quality, we're hearing conflicting reports — some are saying it tested okay, others say quite the opposite.

6 hours ago, RedHoodPug said:

The sad part is those eggs include Peacemaker, Harley Quinn, and Doom Patrol. We’ve had confirmation of the first being renewed, seen a trailer for the second, and nothing new for the third. It looks like a hard reset with a few safe spots.

I don't think they'll be cancelling those.

If they were, they'd do it now. They'd have to tax it now, because soon they won't be able to. So it's kind of a now-or-never type of situation.

And seeing how big of a hit Peacemaker was, they ain't cancelling it. I feel like they also wouldn't risk losing Gunn. 

6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Honestly I'm fine with losing those. Haven't seen any of Doom Patrol so I won't pass judgement on that, but what I've seen of Peacemaker feels like one of those needlessly nihilistic The Boys style shows and Harley Quinn feels like a generic Family Guy knockoff.

Tell me you haven't seen something without telling me you haven't seen something.

Peacemaker is literally the opposite of what you've said, it isn't about "life being meaningless", it actually focuses on showing the main character that it is meaningful, and he's got things that are worth fighting for. Just because it's an R-rated comedy doesn't make it edgy.

Harley Quinn is also amazing. It actually develops the characters, and all the episodes are hilarious.