42146 - Liebherr LR13000

[Bartybum]

3 minutes ago, Addi498 said:

To be honest I wouldn’t really call it a ‘huge’ configuration because the real crane can be fitted with 92m of luffing jib (not including main boom) which would be over two meters long if the crane were to be 1/50 scale.

Huge in the sense that it's the big complex and interesting configuration, not the small simple and boring configuration. In all honesty I'm happy it's not some 2.5m behemoth with the same repetitive boom sections going on for half the build

Edited April 29, 2023 by Bartybum

[nerdsforprez]

26 minutes ago, Bartybum said:

Aesthetics shmaesthetics, it's a bloody crawler crane so I can't really say I care too much about how the proportions.

Umm..... no.  It is a licensed set marketed as the Liebherr LR13000 crane.  Have you not read the thread title?  42042 was a regular, untitled crawler crane.  This is not.  You can't market something as X and have it appear nothing like X.    

Edited April 29, 2023 by nerdsforprez

[Addi498]

To put into perspective how bad of a  value this set is, you can get a proper 1/50 scale model of the Lr1600 that’s 1.9m tall out of the box for around the same price of €700 Euro.

 

Edited April 29, 2023 by Addi498

[Maaboo the Witch]

31 minutes ago, nerdsforprez said:

Umm..... no.  It is a licensed set marketed as the Liebherr LR13000 crane.  Have you not read the thread title?  42042 was a regular, untitled crawler crane.  This is not.  You can't market something as X and have it appear nothing like X.    

That's the pitfall of licensed sets. They have to look accurate, which this set doesn't, really. And like you said earlier, why bother if it can't be done?

[Ngoc Nguyen]

To put this into perspective, you can spend the same amount of money buying two new sealed 42042 on eBay rather than this disproportionate piece of Con+Trol junk.

I'd like to hear kbalage 's comment on this, even though I'm aware that he doesn't make videos to comment on leaked images.

Edited April 29, 2023 by Ngoc Nguyen

[HectorMB]

To say that this is the biggest conventional crawler crane in the world is just a joke. Probably, regarding it's functions it's interesting, but for this price tag you don't expect such thing.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

I think I can see tapered 5x11 panels in either LBG or DBG in the undercarriage. Based on the color of the tracks and the hub I'd say it's LBG.

[Aleh]

6 hours ago, Maaboo35 said:

The boom arrangement looks right to me.

Except the fact the derrick boom is not connected with the superstructure at all (I mean winches), only with the additional counterweight.

 

 

And I think this is the first time TLG releases technic set in portrait mode box

Investigating the image I can assume 3 winches (instead of 6 in the real crane):

Hook 

Luffing jib 

Main boom - even not sure here.

So MIN functions looks  like: two winches, slewing, drive and steering

Edited April 29, 2023 by Aleh

[Zerobricks]

I did some comparison between the shape of 64448, 64449 city crane lattices and they don't really match the shapes of the structure on the crane. So I'm hoping for new parts which hopefully have a better way of connecting than axles.

EDIT: Anyone else notices the 1:5 motorcycle front shock absorbers being used as cylinders in the back? Also the red details look like red 5x7 frames to me, which means new lattices are 7 studs wide.

Edited April 29, 2023 by Zerobricks

[Jockos]

Having seen the leaked image, I think it's not that bad. I found several pictures of this counterweight configuration, that is similar to the set so it's just hanging in the air, which means it's not an overly heavy-lifting crane. Though I have to agree I expected a slender design and more accurate undercarriage, but I will wait for better/official pictures. And somehow I don't think the ~$700 price is correct.

And it seems that it has only one C+ hub...as the box doesn't have any number beside the hub's picture

Edited April 29, 2023 by Jockos

[Ngoc Nguyen]

If I read the box's side correctly, this set has one smart hub and 4 L motors. The 700$ price is even more ridiculous.

[spongebrickpl]

On the box it is described as Liebherr LR 15000, not LR 13000.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

1 minute ago, spongebrickpl said:

On the box it is described as Liebherr LR 15000, not LR 13000.

Liebherr doesn't have LR15000. LR13000 is its largest crawler crane.

[spongebrickpl]

Could it be a new model?

[Maaboo the Witch]

17 minutes ago, spongebrickpl said:

On the box it is described as Liebherr LR 15000, not LR 13000.

Looks like LR13000 to me.

[kbalage]

5 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

I'd like to hear kbalage 's comment on this, even though I'm aware that he doesn't make videos to comment on leaked images.

I won't make videos using leaked photos, and I don't want to judge a set based on a single blurry (and potentially preliminary) photo anyway without any confirmed information. 

[canuckster]

Ok great, so we can't have nice things because of the land of frivolous lawsuits, pathetic.

If that picture is accurate, what a bloody shame.

[Bartybum]

11 hours ago, nerdsforprez said:

Umm..... no.  It is a licensed set marketed as the Liebherr LR13000 crane.  Have you not read the thread title?  42042 was a regular, untitled crawler crane.  This is not.  You can't market something as X and have it appear nothing like X.    

Umm..... yes. Those are my priorities, so I can't really say I care to be honest. If it's heavy machinery I'm far more interested in the play and functions, and as long as it doesn't look goofy as hell and generally resembles the machine I'm more or less happy. If it's something like a car that relies entirely on aesthetics then I'd be far more critical

Again though, if the price is true then it's ridiculous regardless of how it looks

Edited April 30, 2023 by Bartybum

[Dylan M]

4 hours ago, kbalage said:

 (and potentially preliminary) photo 

I'm hoping that's only preliminary photo, 2year long waiting for this Set,  wondering what's the First / Original model looks like...

[KevinMD]

New hook piece? Doesn’t appear to be the old metal one, certainly doesn’t appear to be built using 1x2 thin liftarms…

[aminnich]

The next contest should be to make a more appropriate 42146. I know this forum has several very talented builders that would put this official set to shame. 

[Ngoc Nguyen]

If it can be done with 4300 parts with no new specialized part and maybe cost only as much as 42131 I don't get why it isn't done. 

[Tazmancrash]

59 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

If it can be done with 4300 parts with no new specialized part and maybe cost only as much as 42131 I don't get why it isn't done. 

Is that the mold king set? Or is it a MOC on rebrickable?

I'd love to get the instructions & build it from lego.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

5 minutes ago, Tazmancrash said:

Is that the mold king set? Or is it a MOC on rebrickable?

The former

[allanp]

Ignoring the rumored price for a moment....The set looks good and I like the configuration. It does look way too out of proportion but that should be easy enough to fix with the new boom pieces, and the functions and new pieces appear to have remained intact, which for me is the important thing. I just hope the rumored price is way off. Even if I don't spend the extra cash to make the proportions more accurate, the price seems way too high. 

The image is preliminary but I think it's accurate to the final model because it definitely looks like it was originally supposed to be much taller. "look how they butchered my boy" indeed. As for a contest to build a better crane using the talented builders here, the TLG designers are pretty darned talented! It's not a question of talent. It's marketing, costs, safety, and all these other things we don't need to worry about. Do I agree with "butchering" the set like this whilst still keeping the price sky high? No! But it is what it is (I hate that saying but it is what it.....dang it!). 

Still withholding final judgement till we KNOW FOR SURE the final RRP, and have had a better look and it's functions and how well they have been replicated as compared to the real thing. I don't know if the air bus now counts as the 2022 flagship of if 2022 didn't have a flagship, but discounting that set, I haven't bought a flagship in almost 3 years now. As a huge Technic fan of over 30 years with disposable income I want this set to change that, I want to like it, I'm trying to like it, price please don't be ridiculous!