:D

40 minutes ago, Jundis said:

This must be the latest reviewed set ever in technics history... one week to the release and still nothing....?

January sets are usually on the shelves by December before the review embargoes so this is not unprecedented, although those smaller boxes may be less expected than this one. 

45 minutes ago, Jundis said:

This must be the latest reviewed set ever in technic history... one week to the release and still nothing....?

It's because it is postponed once again.

I woke up.. saw there was action on this thread and just assumed the review was out… I guess not.  I bet TLG is afraid of the negative reviews from the big YouTubers. 

Can someone enlighten me please? I still don't have any clue about having a very close review embargo date to the release date, as I would think the more time between the review and release, the more people could consider buying it despite the possible faults (and price) of the set. Yes, these two can decimate the purchases but if the reviewers' opinions are overall positive, it can also multiply to a certain point.

Im betting that this set is gonna be canceled, and there will be neither hype nor demand surge for it, because this set isn't that good, unlike the Osprey.

2 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

Im betting that this set is gonna be canceled, and there will be neither hype nor demand surge for it, because this set isn't that good, unlike the Osprey.

The model is not good or the control+ system is not good?

1 minute ago, allanp said:

The model is not good or the control+ system is not good?

The value offered in consideration of the price is not good

11 minutes ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

Im betting that this set is gonna be canceled, and there will be neither hype nor demand surge for it, because this set isn't that good, unlike the Osprey.

I dissagree. I see the hype and it will sell. No way it will be cancelled. Overpriced Zetros is here for around 2 years with a pernament discount. LEGO made some investments Into this one (new molds), this is the main difference from Osprey which was mainly designed from old parts. 

Edited July 24, 20231 yr by Oh_Hi_Mao

4 minutes ago, Oh_Hi_Mao said:

LEGO made some investments Into this one (new molds)

In the somewhat likely case that the Lieb ever were to be cancelled, TLG would probably disperse the new parts throughout other sets.

5 minutes ago, Maaboo35 said:

In the somewhat likely case that the Lieb ever were to be cancelled, TLG would probably disperse the new parts throughout other sets.

Yes, but they can do the same after milking LR13000 dry. Only reason it might be cancelled is a major design flaw, which I doubt since this set was delayed by one year just to make it right. 

Edited July 24, 20231 yr by Oh_Hi_Mao

2 hours ago, Jockos said:

Can someone enlighten me please? I still don't have any clue about having a very close review embargo date to the release date, as I would think the more time between the review and release, the more people could consider buying it despite the possible faults (and price) of the set. Yes, these two can decimate the purchases but if the reviewers' opinions are overall positive, it can also multiply to a certain point.

You really shouldn't overthink this. TLG as a multinational company is acting exactly like every other similar company does. There are lots of departments and everyone is only focusing on their own job. One department sets the embargo dates, the other sends out review sets, the third one grants access to beta apps, and sometimes there's a glitch in the matrix, things get messed up and this happens. Believe me, review embargo dates might seem to be super important for us, but it's way less significant from the company's perspective. 

2 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

Im betting that this set is gonna be canceled

And each copy will sell for 2000€ like 42113.

I'd be extremely surprised if they recall all those yellow latices, especially since there's one place and one place only that they would fit - a yellow crane. I reckon there's enough hype that it's more efficient to sell and recoup some sunk costs than it is to straight up cancel it. Unless I see some proof all this cancelling talk just seems like coping and getting salty about the price

Edited July 24, 20231 yr by Bartybum

4 minutes ago, Bartybum said:

I'd be extremely surprised if they recall all those yellow latices, especially since there's one place and one place only that they would fit - a yellow crane. I reckon there's enough hype that it's more efficient to sell and recoup some sunk costs than it is to straight up cancel it

Not to mention the weights. Although they also could be reused, it would be difficult for many reasons. One, to include, there are no pinholes, etc...

From reading everything....this is all speculation right? It being cancelled?  Just want to make sure....

11 minutes ago, nerdsforprez said:

Not to mention the weights. Although they also could be reused, it would be difficult for many reasons. One, to include, there are no pinholes, etc...

From reading everything....this is all speculation right? It being cancelled?  Just want to make sure....

Ngoc Nguyen just betting that it will be cancelled, because he personally don't like what this set is offering for the price. That's all, the puriest speculation :) 

Edited July 24, 20231 yr by Oh_Hi_Mao

Not sure about the rest of the Technic fans here, but I for one am not hyped about the reviews because I never buy Technic on day one and am able to make my own purchase decision without the subjective opinion of reviewers. Some sets even receive a design change later in the manual and part list e.g. fixing the bad working engine in the cement mixer truck, not to mention the significant price drops after just a couple of weeks. So it always pays off to be patient. I believe this set will be best bought second hand, as it takes up so much space and will most likely not even end up collecting dust. So expect near new condition for half the retail price at minimun.
Besides, some certified shop will most likely post a speed-build before the embargo date anyway. ;)

41 minutes ago, Anio said:

And each copy will sell for 2000€ like 42113.

I wonder who they'll put the blame on ... is there some anti-crane organization out there?

5 minutes ago, Toastie said:

is there some anti-crane organization out there?

Only for crane places that are not condensed

2 hours ago, kbalage said:

You really shouldn't overthink this. TLG as a multinational company is acting exactly like every other similar company does. There are lots of departments and everyone is only focusing on their own job. One department sets the embargo dates, the other sends out review sets, the third one grants access to beta apps, and sometimes there's a glitch in the matrix, things get messed up and this happens. Believe me, review embargo dates might seem to be super important for us, but it's way less significant from the company's perspective. 

Ah, I see, thank you!

1 hour ago, Toastie said:

I wonder who they'll put the blame on ... is there some anti-crane organization out there?

TLG just discovered those cranes have been used to build military bases ;-)

 

It's okay though because now it's a rescue crane!

I highly doubt it'll be cancelled, and will probably sell quite well once discount sales start happening. I often think the discount price is actually the real price, but they raise the RRP because they know some people will buy it at the raised price.

The only reason it could ever be cancelled is indeed a major design flaw, but as said, it's highly unlikely as it's already been delayed a lot - they either would've made sure that the design challenges are straightened out or cancelled it already long ago.

And yeah, I think it will sell well enough to recoup the costs and make some profit, but it probably won't become a huge cash cow for TLG. Remains to be seen if it sells well enough that we'll be getting similar very big and expensive sets in the future.

Perhaps it's a marketing tricks to make other expensive sets more attractive? (Isn't that called the decoy effect?)

For example, if you want to sell more double burgers, you put a triple burger on the menu, which you know most people will be ashamed to order, but it's just there to make the double burger seem more reasonable / desirable. 

the set is still available for presale with delivery 1.8.
Don't think it will be postponed.