[CADA] CADA General Discussion Topic

[Sentinel]

Are the Cada motors and batteries of good or comparable quality?

[Aleh]

Yes, imho

[brunojj1]

4 hours ago, Sentinel said:

Are the Cada motors and batteries of good or comparable quality?

Don´t forget the fool proof 4-channel RC system which Lego wasn´t eager enough to develop. The L-motors, buggy motors, micro motors are stronger and better and most important still being produced to have it available for your needs. It will get even better, promised.

[MarkyMark42]

I'm very new to the whole CADA blocks thing so i was just wondering on a few things from people more in the know. In peoples opinion, if not buying Lego is CADA the best alternative? I've heard their sets are not so much straight copies like some of the others out there and they acknowledge the designers. Is this true?

Obviously the upcoming AMG ONE has got my attention, does anyone know a release date for it?

[astyanax]

9 minutes ago, MarkyMark42 said:

they acknowledge the designers

The important thing is not to acknowledge, but to pay. Other Chinese blocks companies often do 'acknowledge' the fan designers from which they steal the designs without compensation.

[brunojj1]

2 hours ago, MarkyMark42 said:

Obviously the upcoming AMG ONE has got my attention, does anyone know a release date for it?

This summer, but no date available yet. You will know about it soon here.

2 hours ago, astyanax said:

The important thing is not to acknowledge, but to pay. Other Chinese blocks companies often do 'acknowledge' the fan designers from which they steal the designs without compensation.

Thank you for pointing that out.

[MarkyMark42]

Cheers and yeah I should have used compensate not acknowledge

[Island]

On 5/27/2023 at 3:50 PM, Polarlicht said:

Still zero information about the 61503 AMG One out there :(

I hear some shops sales in Aliexpress. Still don't know the quality

[gyenesvi]

Just came across this new Cada set, just the RC off-roader of my taste:

https://decadastore.com/products/cada-wildcat-atv-c62006w

For $99, I am quite tempted to give it a try. If anyone has tested this, please let me know. Haven't really found any reviews yet on YT, just this promo video.

It seems quite fun to play with. Wonder what the electronics is capable of. It seems to be the new system with non-PF plugs. Wonder if the steering servo is proportional. Anybody knows that?

The tires also seem quite nice (75mm).

Edited July 13, 2023 by gyenesvi

[efferman]

6 hours ago, gyenesvi said:

Wonder if the steering servo is proportional.

Unfortunately not yet. we have to wait for the new remote.

[gyenesvi]

11 hours ago, efferman said:

Unfortunately not yet. we have to wait for the new remote.

Thanks for the info. I guess it applies to throttle as well then if the temote is just on-off. Next question is then whether the servo itself is capable of proportional control, if the remote is replaced later on to the new one.

Wonder though how precisely such seemingly fast car can be controlled with on-off steering.. Guess I'll have to wait for reviews to see more.

[efferman]

2 hours ago, gyenesvi said:

Wonder though how precisely such seemingly fast car can be controlled with on-off steering.

Well, depends on the driver

 

[nintiendo]

On 2/15/2023 at 5:54 PM, Aleh said:

Hello? I wonder if it's possible to operate with two battery boxes and teo RC controllers the same time? Or each controller will operate all turned on batteryboxes in the radius? Is it possible to divide them?

Surely several pairs of controller/receiver can work at the same time. Here is a test https://youtu.be/Sti_p9Bo_wg

 

Edited July 24, 2023 by nintiendo
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[nintiendo]

On 3/15/2023 at 12:24 AM, eric trax said:

 

Yes indeed. Micromotor has a very large reduction so it's to slow for the actuators.

Micromotor - 342 rpm vs. M Pro Motor - 1340 rpm

Interesting fact is micro ones are storng enough to move whole model without problem. The excavator weighs over 2 kg

 

Micro motor is only 140 rpm according this DE's demo 

 

[nintiendo]

On 3/14/2023 at 2:37 AM, efferman said:

Power function connectors are patented and CaDA wants to avoid every single infringement. The old connectors will probably dissappear when the new ones (different than powered up) are on the market.

Do you have any image to see the difference in close range?

[AVCampos]

I second that request. Different connectors may be still compatible with official PF components, as shown by SBrick.

[efferman]

They are like a 4 wire PU connector

https://decadastore.com/products/cada-spare-parts-steering-motor-pro-with-transparent-plug-jv5075

[gyenesvi]

I wonder why Cada is sticking with this weird form factor for the servo when they departed from the PF-like electronics line and made it RC system based and changed the plug. Why not make the servo shaped like an RC servo? The same strength can be achieved at a smaller size, as the GeekServo shows. Would love to see such a product compatible with controller and battery.

On 7/14/2023 at 8:50 PM, efferman said:

Well, depends on the driver

Finally I found some reviews of the Arctic Cat. Unfortunately it seems pretty hard to control, the steering has a lot of slack, and even the speed is hard to control as it's really fast and only on-off.. But it has the motors with the new plugs, so still wonder if those are actually capable of fine grained control with a proper controller.

[nintiendo]

 

On 3/29/2023 at 3:29 PM, gyenesvi said:

I've heard guessing the servo cannot be controlled precisely. Is that because of the servo itself or the controller?

These motors are compatible with PF components, and they also work with a Buwizz, right?

 

On 7/14/2023 at 11:06 PM, gyenesvi said:

Next question is then whether the servo itself is capable of proportional control, if the remote is replaced later on to the new one.

CaDA servo motor is proportional itself, and it works precisely. But since current CaDA remote controller does not support so it just turns left/right (-90, 0, +90). Same to LEGO servo motor (PF), controller must support proportional to make it work.

If you use CaDA servo motor with LEGO speed controller (8879), I meant PF IR controller, it works nicely exactly same LEGO servo with 7 angles each side.

 

[amorti]

@nintiendo thanks but it is a 9 minute video in Vietnamese. Most of us don't know Vietnamese.

[gyenesvi]

4 hours ago, nintiendo said:

CaDA servo motor is proportional itself, and it works precisely. But since current CaDA remote controller does not support so it just turns left/right (-90, 0, +90). Same to LEGO servo motor (PF), controller must support proportional to make it work.

If you use CaDA servo motor with LEGO speed controller (8879), I meant PF IR controller, it works nicely exactly same LEGO servo with 7 angles each side.

Thanks, that's what I suspected, and I guess the same would be true for the one with the new plug, and most probably the rest of the system (battery/control unit) also supports precise control. I'd be interested in buying a model where the whole system is in one package with a proportional controller, and which was actually designed to function precisely. I suspect that in the Arctic Cat model even if I'd change the controller to a proportional one in the future, the whole system will not be precise anyway, because the steering mechanism is sloppy and has a lot of lag due to two gear meshes involved. Guess that's what happens when it's designed to work with a non-proportional system, all the imprecision does not matter, only the two end points.. Otherwise the model seems promising, for example the top speed is quite good with a single drive motor, and I like the tight overall placement of all the electronics.

1 minute ago, amorti said:

@nintiendo thanks but it is a 9 minute video in Vietnamese. Most of us don't know Vietnamese.

Yeah, it was a bit hard to find the relevant part, it's toward the very end around 8:12 where it shows the continuous functioning of the servo.

[nintiendo]

On 7/26/2023 at 1:40 PM, amorti said:

@nintiendo thanks but it is a 9 minute video in Vietnamese. Most of us don't know Vietnamese.

Sorry about that, since I think we can still get the idea without any sound :)

[Bluehose]

Hello,

I know they are multiple clone of Lego technic which steal mocs to make sets, but I heard about one making deals with mocers in order to make sets with their consent. Is this one Cada or it is another one ?

Regards 

[AVCampos]

I don't know if there are others, but at least CaDa is one of them. Many EB members have designed sets for them.

[gyenesvi]

2 hours ago, Bluehose said:

Hello,

I know they are multiple clone of Lego technic which steal mocs to make sets, but I heard about one making deals with mocers in order to make sets with their consent. Is this one Cada or it is another one ?

Regards 

There's at least one more, I have just recently been contacted by the owners of lesdiy.com website to license some of my models to be sold in physical form with instructions. They told me that they source their bricks from alternative manufacturers like GoBricks. But I have read some reviews that the bricks are not that good quality and that electronics are replaced with alternative ones and don't always work as the original MOC was (for example replacing a Buwizz). When I asked what they would replace PU components with, I got no answer. I think they only recently started, I could not find known MOC-ers who actually have experience with them, only one that started working with them very recently. Also, they have some obviously megablocks statistics on their website about how many models are being sold (changes inconsistently every time I view a model)..