[CADA] CADA General Discussion Topic

[Gimmick]

40 minutes ago, jorgeopesi said:

I do not know what CADA is, can anybody explain to me please?.

Cada is a brand of the chinese toy company "Double Eagle" (actually a fairly large manufacturer of 'cheaper' RC models). They started to produce "technic like" sets a few years ago. They produce no "clones", but sometimes there products seem "carefully timed" ;D and some parts like the controllers are design-copies eventhough they are not based on infrared xD.

The reasons why they are so well known are basically:

- no clones

- they produce PF compatible electronics with 2.4GHz controller (only digital controls though and the quality was 'meh' - not sure about the current state)

- the part quality got better and is now good (besides very few part types)

- they coorperate with / hire 'MOC designers' (T-Lego, Eric Trax,...).

- they do have official licenses (toyota?, this anime... I forgot the name :D)

 Whereas the first big models were truly very "MOCish" and also available in rebrickable for example, the newer models cannot be called "MOCs" anymore - it's more like 'contract work'.

 

So it's bascially just a normal Lego-competitor with its own pros and cons :)

[jorgeopesi]

10 minutes ago, efferman said:

Cada is a Chinese manufacturer of Sets made of liftarms and bricks. They have many unique parts, and even the 2 long pins have a different design, to avoid a exact copy of the lego design.

Even lego is using now the flipflop beams, slightly modified, from cada in 11 and 15 modules. Cada doesnt make copys of Lego Sets or mocs and works together with some Moccers to bring their ideas to the market. The quality is quite good, but the friction in the Crossaxle connectors is sometimes a little to low.

Thank you, I have to know more about no Lego world...

[mdemerchant]

1 hour ago, Gimmick said:

they do have official licenses (toyota?, this anime... I forgot the name :D)

Really?  I admit I have not looked through their set catalog in detail but all of the ones I have seen do not appear to have licenses despite being very recognizable vehicles.

[2GodBDGlory]

23 minutes ago, mdemerchant said:

Really?  I admit I have not looked through their set catalog in detail but all of the ones I have seen do not appear to have licenses despite being very recognizable vehicles.

I think there's some of each. Certain sets use the official logos and everything, so I'd assume they're licensed, while others go by a non-descript name and don't use logos.

[LvdH]

28 minutes ago, mdemerchant said:

Really?  I admit I have not looked through their set catalog in detail but all of the ones I have seen do not appear to have licenses despite being very recognizable vehicles.

This HUMVEE is officially licensed:

https://decadastore.com/products/cada-1-8-humvee-off-road-vehicle-c61036w

[JaBaCaDaBra]

3 hours ago, Gimmick said:

quality was 'meh

Make sure you have a VERY good fire extinquisher standby.
Talking from own experience and I'm not the only here that had a lithium fire from their "quality product"

[brickphisto]

CaDA offers sets officially licensed by Citroen, Toyota, Mazda, Humvee, Lotus and Initial D. There are some more licenses coming soon. CaDA's mother company Double Eagle also has cooperations with Land Rover, Jeep, Mercedes-Benz, JCB, Ford and Volvo for their RC products but not for CaDA products yet. So quite a few sets are unlicensed.

[M_longer]

Finally :)

[Milan]

Guys, if I may suggest something: we can all make this topic tidy and organized by using a few of the first posts for something important. You can use, for example, first post of @gyenesvi, @efferman, @2GodBDGlory and @LvdH and edit them so their posts carry important information, like an index. And it will be all on the first page, at the top.
Thus, Gyenesvi's post can hold, for example, all the new and unique parts, Effe's post can hold all the sets, etc etc...
End they can edit their posts later and add new information.
 

[gyenesvi]

14 hours ago, efferman said:

This Parts?

Yes, thanks, that looks like a good start but I guess that's not a comprehensive list. I like those liftarms ending in pins, and the pin with the towball socket also looks interesting.

13 hours ago, brunojj1 said:

Then I discovered this part in the mentioned white „BMW“ set – it´s quite nice to have it in order to go the narrow path if needed:

Wow, that looks great, I have been wanting this for the new heavy duty CV joint. It looks like it has a 3L axle though, right? a 2L version would be more useful, to make a driven 5L independent suspension possible, like what should have been in the Raptor's front axle..

5 hours ago, LvdH said:

This HUMVEE is officially licensed:

I have been looking at that Humvee a while a go, interesting one. I like how the bodywork combines technic panels with system plates to achieve some smooth surfaces on the doors (compare that to the Raptor's doors) and nice curves around the wheels without looking broken and having gaps. I like the styling of CADA panels by the way. Do you know if it's based on an existing Lego MOC?

@Milan do you mean me editing my first post continuously when someone posts a new unique part by copying the link to the image for example? (I guess others cannot edit my first post).

Edited February 6, 2022 by gyenesvi

[2GodBDGlory]

There sure are a lot of useful parts--those pin-beams would really change building styles, I think!

I'd use stuff like that, except that I think there's value in building my serious MOCs with the same palette that other people are willing to use. I've been 3D-printing some interesting custom parts lately (32T gear, different sizes of clutch gears, etc.) and would love to use them in MOCs, but it kind of falls under the same principle. If lots of other people were willing to use non-Lego parts it could gain legitimacy, but it seems like a chicken-egg scenario to me!

Also, if that response of mine on the first page would be useful as an index, I'm fine with editing it, if someone provides the material for it!

[TechnicRCRacer]

Using non-LEGO branded parts still gives me the jibblies. I also 3D print custom parts, but there is no way I would put them in my MOCs because nobody else would be able to build them (which is why I should stop using so many rare parts, I am aware). CADA has cool in-house designed parts, but it still doesn’t feel right to me that ~60% of the parts are identical to official LEGO parts.

[LvdH]

9 hours ago, gyenesvi said:

Do you know if it's based on an existing Lego MOC?

 

No, it seems like a completely 100% original CaDA design. You can’t build it with LEGO. There are many parts in the model that don’t exist in LEGO, even ignoring the dark tan colored pieces.

[LvdH]

21 hours ago, brunojj1 said:

Not sure they have been implemented in some of the recent sets though. If somebody can spot them, please share a picture. At least they will come in a new hypercar of mine this summer (most likely not black!). 

Yes, they’ve been used in blue in this F1-like car:

[dabo]

I like the fact that some of the sets have the option to skip the motors etc. Something for Lego to learn from.

[gyenesvi]

10 hours ago, 2GodBDGlory said:

I'd use stuff like that, except that I think there's value in building my serious MOCs with the same palette that other people are willing to use.

I totally agree with that principle, I also would not use them in serious MOCs, but it would be nice to experiment with them!

[LvdH]

14 hours ago, Milan said:

Guys, if I may suggest something: we can all make this topic tidy and organized by using a few of the first posts for something important. You can use, for example, first post of @gyenesvi, @efferman, @2GodBDGlory and @LvdH and edit them so their posts carry important information, like an index. And it will be all on the first page, at the top.
Thus, Gyenesvi's post can hold, for example, all the new and unique parts, Effe's post can hold all the sets, etc etc...
End they can edit their posts later and add new information.
 

It took me a while to write it all up, but I have edited my post to include all of the Master Series sets up until now. I’ll update it as more gets released. 

[Milan]

12 hours ago, gyenesvi said:

@Milan do you mean me editing my first post continuously when someone posts a new unique part by copying the link to the image for example? (I guess others cannot edit my first post).

Yes. And you can edit it whenever you feel like it...once per week is okay, depending on the availability of info, its your choice. Only you (and staff) can edit your posts.

8 minutes ago, LvdH said:

It took me a while to write it all up, but I have edited my post to include all of the Master Series sets up until now. I’ll update it as more gets released. 

[Gimmick]

7 minutes ago, LvdH said:

It took me a while to write it all up, but I have edited my post to include all of the Master Series sets up until now. I’ll update it as more gets released. 

A single post as database for the next years? :D Not sure about that...

Maybe just use brick4.com or atleast spoilers for sorting.

[Milan]

6 minutes ago, Gimmick said:

A single post as database for the next years? :D Not sure about that...

We have one topic for CADA, and we have to make most of it.
Good thing is, we can always adjust this topic.
We will see how it goes. Spoilers are certainly an option, when the number of images become too great.

[LvdH]

1 hour ago, Gimmick said:

A single post as database for the next years? :D Not sure about that...

Maybe just use brick4.com or atleast spoilers for sorting.

It's just one photo and a video link. Most MOC topics have way more than that.

[Aleh]

Finally and unexpectedly :)
I also may share with you that I've signed with them my MOC 

But unfortunately they postponed it till better times.

 

Edited February 6, 2022 by Aleh

[KevinMD]

Does anyone know a US-based seller of CADA? 

[mdemerchant]

7 hours ago, Aleh said:

Finally and unexpectedly :)
I also may share with you that I've signed with them my MOC

That will be quite a set when it comes out, it's a huge model.  Lego's upcoming crane won't be looking very impressive compared to that.

[2GodBDGlory]

I think if you want your Technic MOC made into a set, CADA is a much better bet than Lego Ideas! That does look like an epic MOC, and would be very cool as a set. How many pieces is it?