Are all the Lego themes connected?

[Wolfpackfan99]

It’s a question that’s always intrigued me, are all the non-licensed Lego themes connected? I drew inspiration from the famous “Pixar Theory”. We know that in the past, TLG has put in subtle details in their themes, that connect them to past or present themes, but there are others that can only be connected by assumptions or hunches. I am very knowledgeable when it comes to Lego theme history, but I think the whole community has stuff that I didn’t know. So come on in and help us solve the mystery!

[Wolfpackfan99]

Well I guess I’ll get started.

 What I know: monster fighters is connected to galaxy squad (the moonstones summoned the aliens), galaxy squad is connected to ultra agents (galaxy squad character Solomon blaze is the chief in ultra agents), ultra agents could be connected to agents (both themes feature a similar villain named spy clops).

 Ninjago is connected to chima (the scene at the end of season 5), both are connected to nexo knights (clay usually said “protect the realm!” When charging into battle, which means it’s part of the 16 realms of ninjago).

 My assumptions: nexo knights is castle in the future, the various names for Lego city (town, world city, city) were just highlighting the progress from a town to a city, ninja was just a historic sub theme of castle. 
 

 

Edited February 13, 2022 by Wolfpackfan99

[KingOfLiberation]

Ninjago doesn't have a monopoly on a fairly common word in the English language.

twitter.com/TommyAndreasen/status/1166682302279294977

Ninjago and Chima exist as works of fiction in Knighton.

Ninjago and Chima are both explicitly part of the Sixteen Realms. It's possible Friends, City, and Elves are in the same universe (Friends and City are both fairly everyday and could be in different parts of one planet, and Elves mostly takes place in a mirror world to the ordinary), maybe Hidden Side too. Bionicle and Monkie Kid are their own separate things as far as I know.

[TeriXeri]

25 minutes ago, KingOfLiberation said:

It's possible Friends, City, and Elves are in the same universe (Friends and City are both fairly everyday and could be in different parts of one planet

Friends and City have multiple cross-references, here are some examples from just 2019-2022:

• Friends 41429: Heartlake City Airplane has LCI (LEGO City International?) as destination.
• City 60262: Passenger Airplane has HLC (Heart Lake City) as destination.
• 40518: High-Speed Train says LCC - HLC as destinations which is likely LEGO City Central - Heart Lake Central train stations, not a minifig set but still both cities mentioned in 1 set.
• City 60350: Lunar Research Base has this tile included (also was in Assembly Square which is a minifig set) :
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Edited February 13, 2022 by TeriXeri

[KingOfLiberation]

Huh, that's cool. So Friends and City are one universe, possibly with Hidden Side and Elves (or maybe it's our world). 

Funnily, if you take the lyrics of "21st Century Ninja" literally, Ninjago is in the far future of our world (after it's been consumed by water and taken over by a sea serpent. Also there's now humanoid fish people).

[Wolfpackfan99]

22 minutes ago, KingOfLiberation said:

Ninjago doesn't have a monopoly on a fairly common word in the English language.

twitter.com/TommyAndreasen/status/1166682302279294977

Ninjago and Chima exist as works of fiction in Knighton.

Ninjago and Chima are both explicitly part of the Sixteen Realms. It's possible Friends, City, and Elves are in the same universe (Friends and City are both fairly everyday and could be in different parts of one planet, and Elves mostly takes place in a mirror world to the ordinary), maybe Hidden Side too. Bionicle and Monkie Kid are their own separate things as far as I know.

I understand that “realm” is possibly used in a different context than what I thought, I know that based on the European origin of castle and nexo knights, “realm” means different places when used for political purposes (example: although England has significance in other governing realms, the crown only remains a symbol in Canada, and therefore does not control the decisions of the country). Valid point though.

Another thing too is that there are still many themes that have not been discussed:

 was aqua raiders connected to aquazone, or are they a reboot of an old faction? What about Atlantis?

 Also I forgot to mention that adventurers and Dino are connected (Johnny and josh thunder)

[Wolfpackfan99]

Wait, how did you know that ninjago and chima are works of fiction in knighton? I don’t remember it ever being explicitly stated in the show, did tommy andreasen also tell you that?

 

Edited February 13, 2022 by Wolfpackfan99

[KingOfLiberation]

The other tweet linked in my post is from Tommy stating that, yeah.

1 hour ago, KingOfLiberation said:

twitter.com/TommyAndreasen/status/1166682302279294977

Ninjago and Chima exist as works of fiction in Knighton.

 

[Wolfpackfan99]

1 minute ago, KingOfLiberation said:

The other tweet linked in my post is from Tommy stating that, yeah.

 

Oh alrighty, also sorry I got Tommy andreasen mixed up with TLG designer Henrik Andersen 

[Lyichir]

All Lego themes are connected because they're all based on toys created by The Lego Group.

Beyond that, there's no singular overarching "multiverse" theory or anything like that. Different Lego crossovers (like Lego Dimensions, Lego Universe, The Lego Movie, and various one-off cameos or crossovers between themes) have operated under entirely different rules or assumptions for how themes relate to one another. And when a Lego designer adds a cheeky little easter egg to a set referencing another theme, it's not in service to any deep or established "lore".

[Wolfpackfan99]

43 minutes ago, Lyichir said:

All Lego themes are connected because they're all based on toys created by The Lego Group.

Beyond that, there's no singular overarching "multiverse" theory or anything like that. Different Lego crossovers (like Lego Dimensions, Lego Universe, The Lego Movie, and various one-off cameos or crossovers between themes) have operated under entirely different rules or assumptions for how themes relate to one another. And when a Lego designer adds a cheeky little easter egg to a set referencing another theme, it's not in service to any deep or established "lore".

(Sarcasm) Wow this is my favourite part of the day! I love it when people say something that completely ruins the point of a topic! Besides that, the best part is when I have to delete a topic because its purpose is destroyed by a contradictory statement that no one wanted! Such a lovely day! 

[Peppermint_M]

Galidor is a media property in Ninjago, there is a dedicated Galidor Fan in Ninjago City (with T shirt and Action Figures), Ice Planet is also a poster in the city somewhere. 

Of course, Galidor has a dedicated fan on the Ninjago design team which is why the nod was put in there. Which is a fun fact. 

Then, we have the Haunted House that belongs to the Von Baron family, the villainous rival of Johnny Thunder, complete with a portrait in the attic and some relics stored away.

I like to make fun little links between themes.

[Wolfpackfan99]

2 minutes ago, Peppermint_M said:

Galidor is a media property in Ninjago, there is a dedicated Galidor Fan in Ninjago City (with T shirt and Action Figures), Ice Planet is also a poster in the city somewhere. 

Of course, Galidor has a dedicated fan on the Ninjago design team which is why the nod was put in there. Which is a fun fact. 

Then, we have the Haunted House that belongs to the Von Baron family, the villainous rival of Johnny Thunder, complete with a portrait in the attic and some relics stored away.

I like to make fun little links between themes.

Yeah exactly my point, they are little fun details, but we can assume they’re connected if we want, I just don’t like it when someone literally kills the excitement I had when I created this. I thought “oh wow I can explain my theory and get help improving it” but know it’s like “well no one gives two craps about cool theoretical stuff”

[Peppermint_M]

That is how a forum works. This is the internet after all. Don't set such store on what strangers on the internet say?

You make a post, people reply. Sometimes they agree, sometimes they don't and most of the time people don't bother to reply at all. (See most MOC threads...)

[Darkdragon]

17 minutes ago, Wolfpackfan99 said:

Yeah exactly my point, they are little fun details, but we can assume they’re connected if we want, I just don’t like it when someone literally kills the excitement I had when I created this. I thought “oh wow I can explain my theory and get help improving it” but know it’s like “well no one gives two craps about cool theoretical stuff”

Don't base your joy off one negative comment on a thread, everyone is able to have and voice their own opinions on things, especially when you open it up as "what do you think".  Not everyone is going to agree with you and they are free to state it too. Let's just have a rational thread here. Also note that you can not delete a thread or post once created, so make the most positive use of it that you can.

I love all the random call outs that designers put in sets, like the post card and posters and shirts all mentioned already. Sometimes you can find names that tie characters back and that's fun too. 

 

[Lyichir]

42 minutes ago, Wolfpackfan99 said:

(Sarcasm) Wow this is my favourite part of the day! I love it when people say something that completely ruins the point of a topic! Besides that, the best part is when I have to delete a topic because its purpose is destroyed by a contradictory statement that no one wanted! Such a lovely day! 

Sorry for giving an honest answer? I guess?

As a longtime fan of the Lego community I just find this sort of thing tiring. Trying to establish a unifying theory of this sort tends to be fairly contrived and can lead to arguments when one person's idea of how things link together contradicts somebody else's. There's nothing wrong from taking one of the many concrete or implied links between themes and trying to expand upon it... but I find it more fun and rewarding when each interaction between themes is considered on its own merits and with the specific purposes of the story you want to tell in mind, versus trying to force everything into one singular mold just for the sake of having everything connect.

[Wolfpackfan99]

1 hour ago, Peppermint_M said:

That is how a forum works. This is the internet after all. Don't set such store on what strangers on the internet say?

You make a post, people reply. Sometimes they agree, sometimes they don't and most of the time people don't bother to reply at all. (See most MOC threads...)

 

1 hour ago, Darkdragon said:

Don't base your joy off one negative comment on a thread, everyone is able to have and voice their own opinions on things, especially when you open it up as "what do you think".  Not everyone is going to agree with you and they are free to state it too. Let's just have a rational thread here. Also note that you can not delete a thread or post once created, so make the most positive use of it that you can.

I love all the random call outs that designers put in sets, like the post card and posters and shirts all mentioned already. Sometimes you can find names that tie characters back and that's fun too. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Lyichir said:

Sorry for giving an honest answer? I guess?

As a longtime fan of the Lego community I just find this sort of thing tiring. Trying to establish a unifying theory of this sort tends to be fairly contrived and can lead to arguments when one person's idea of how things link together contradicts somebody else's. There's nothing wrong from taking one of the many concrete or implied links between themes and trying to expand upon it... but I find it more fun and rewarding when each interaction between themes is considered on its own merits and with the specific purposes of the story you want to tell in mind, versus trying to force everything into one singular mold just for the sake of having everything connect.

Look, I never said everyone had to agree with me, I just didn’t like how it basically made the whole topic look stupid, I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinions, I don’t mind feedback at all, I just don’t want it to make me look like a complete idiot.

[Lion King]

 I like this “Pixar Theory” you came up for this LEGO world!

Recently, I thought it was an odd timing when City is going to have lunar subtheme while Monkie Kid has lunar subtheme. And now City will have a new Farmer’s Market Van set that will have a carrot sculpture on a top of it, I think?  Maybe it’s not counted as “themes connected to each other” but i think it’s pretty cool. 

Anyways, seeing Nexo Knight’s sets made me think it may be in the same world Ninjago is in. Think about Norse mythology, you know, there are nine realms, all connected by World Tree. 

[Darkdragon]

28 minutes ago, Wolfpackfan99 said:

Look, I never said everyone had to agree with me, I just didn’t like how it basically made the whole topic look stupid, I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinions, I don’t mind feedback at all, I just don’t want it to make me look like a complete idiot.

I think we are saying it didn't make anything look stupid and you might be overreacting.

[Wolfpackfan99]

1 minute ago, Darkdragon said:

I think we are saying it didn't make anything look stupid and you might be overreacting.

Sorry I get really defensive when it comes to stuff I’m passionate about, I sometimes don’t know my own strength, and it comes back to bite me latter.

9 minutes ago, DBlegonerd7 said:

 I like this “Pixar Theory” you came up for this LEGO world!

Recently, I thought it was an odd timing when City is going to have lunar subtheme while Monkie Kid has lunar subtheme. And now City will have a new Farmer’s Market Van set that will have a carrot sculpture on a top of it, I think?  Maybe it’s not counted as “themes connected to each other” but i think it’s pretty cool. 

Anyways, seeing Nexo Knight’s sets made me think it may be in the same world Ninjago is in. Think about Norse mythology, you know, there are nine realms, all connected by World Tree. 

Yeah that’s a good idea, I remember doing a big handwritten note with lines and explanations all over the place like a conspiracy theorist’s bulletin board I do remember Norse mythology, but could it be possible for inter dimensional travel? Maybe the Lego movie was on to something…

But it would be weird going from castle to city, but then have to deal with Thor! Wait a minute Lego Vikings was based on Norse mythology, oh my gosh, you’re a genius!!!

[Wolfpackfan99]

THE WHOLE LEGO UNIVERSE IS OVERSEEN BY ASGARD!!!! 

[Lion King]

42 minutes ago, Wolfpackfan99 said:

Yeah that’s a good idea, I remember doing a big handwritten note with lines and explanations all over the place like a conspiracy theorist’s bulletin board I do remember Norse mythology, but could it be possible for inter dimensional travel? Maybe the Lego movie was on to something…

But it would be weird going from castle to city, but then have to deal with Thor! Wait a minute Lego Vikings was based on Norse mythology, oh my gosh, you’re a genius!!!

Haha, I’m glad I could help. :)

[The Island Chronicles]

7 hours ago, TeriXeri said:

Friends and City have multiple cross-references, here are some examples from just 2019-2022:

• Friends 41429: Heartlake City Airplane has LCI (LEGO City International?) as destination.
• City 60262: Passenger Airplane has HLC (Heart Lake City) as destination.
• 40518: High-Speed Train says LCC - HLC as destinations which is likely LEGO City Central - Heart Lake Central train stations, not a minifig set but still both cities mentioned in 1 set.
• City 60350: Lunar Research Base has this tile included (also was in Assembly Square which is a minifig set) :
• 

Friends: the successor to Paradisa - which I do wish would've stayed. So it makes sense that Friends and City would be in the same universe. 

For me, I'd put City, Modulars, Creator town based sets and Friends in one universe. I guess maybe Ninjago and Hidden Side kinda fit in there too. As of 2020, I'd even put Speed Champions sets in the same universe as City as City began making vehicles based off of real ones in 2020. So all of those are in one universe. At least in my headcanon.   

[Wolfpackfan99]

2 minutes ago, Poodabricks said:

Friends: the successor to Paradisa - which I do wish would've stayed. So it makes sense that Friends and City would be in the same universe. 

For me, I'd put City, Modulars, Creator town based sets and Friends in one universe. I guess maybe Ninjago and Hidden Side kinda fit in there too. As of 2020, I'd even put Speed Champions sets in the same universe as City as City began making vehicles based off of real ones in 2020. So all of those are in one universe. At least in my headcanon.   

Yeah, but overseen by Lego Asgard…

In my opinion, Bionicle and hero factory are just the dystopian future of the Lego universe, where a nuclear war destroyed all minifigure life, but then the bionicle dudes repopulate and then bionicle gets modernized into hero factory.

[The Island Chronicles]

3 hours ago, Wolfpackfan99 said:

Yeah, but overseen by Lego Asgard…

In my opinion, Bionicle and hero factory are just the dystopian future of the Lego universe, where a nuclear war destroyed all minifigure life, but then the bionicle dudes repopulate and then bionicle gets modernized into hero factory.

Whoa 

BTW, what's Lego Asgard?

Edited February 14, 2022 by Poodabricks