10305 Lion Knights' Castle 90th anniversary set

[Triceron]

1 minute ago, woodford86 said:

The print-less Majisto makes no sense to me. They literally just put out a printed wizard in the BAM tower, and Majisto's OG torso was just a blue forestman. Pretty disappointing.

I'm going to believe BAM was a way to give us a proper wizard using someone else's budget because the castle was already maxed out 

I agree.  I would have preferred not having a Majisto in there if they couldn't do it right anyways.  It's kind of weird that they even have him in the set, and I don't find it to be a very good easter egg.

I am also surprised they are counting the Skeleton as a minifigure.  This should really be a 21 minifigure set, not 22.  I would rather they took those two out and give us another Horse.

[MAB]

3 minutes ago, Triceron said:

I am also surprised they are counting the Skeleton as a minifigure.  This should really be a 21 minifigure set, not 22.  I would rather they took those two out and give us another Horse.

Are LEGO referring to it as 22? I'd be surprised as they normally wouldn't count the skeleton. 

[dimc]

Is the wizard still available at BAM, and is that only in stores or online as well?

[TeriXeri]

3 minutes ago, MAB said:

Are LEGO referring to it as 22? I'd be surprised as they normally wouldn't count the skeleton. 

Description on LEGO.com does say 22

[Triceron]

5 minutes ago, MAB said:

Are LEGO referring to it as 22? I'd be surprised as they normally wouldn't count the skeleton. 

• 22 minifigures – Bring stories of the queen, knights, archers, wizard and the forest people to life with the collection of minifigures and accessories redesigned especially for this set

And if you do a full count, there's only 22 if you count the Skeleton. It's even displayed alongside the minis in their own promotional shot.

[TeriXeri]

3-in-1 Pirate Ship and Castle both say 3 figures (and have a 4th being a skeleton), but this set does count a skeleton as a full figure.

Even a more AFOL oriented set like Barracuda Bay did not count the 2 skeletons as minifigs in the description

 

Edited June 23, 2022 by TeriXeri

[dimc]

Lego has considered skeletons as minifigs going back to the mid 90s. Wolfpack Tower shows as having 4 minifigs, and the ghost is included right at the front of the instructions with the 3 humans.

Edit: the copy for the 3-in-1 castle says 3. Must be another area where TLG is not consistent. :|

Edited June 23, 2022 by dimc

[Lion King]

5 hours ago, jodawill said:

I've never understood everyone's obsession with goats. Is there more to it than the fact people want what they can't have? There's a lot of parts I'd be more interested in seeing coming back, like the bullet helmets, the original gold coins, and the trumpet from Wild West. And, of course, more colors of forestmen torsos and hats. (We need brown hats!)

I guess you never understand after all… there are so many sets that goats should be included:

1.) T-rex Breakout (diorama from Jurassic World theme)

2.) Boat Goat (from Marvel theme)

3.) Farm subthemes (from City)

4.) Lion Knights’ Castle 

5.) Medieval Blacksmith 

6.) T-rex Rampage (from Jurassic World theme)

 

And… none of them have an actual goat mold. Animal fans and I want that darn goat. 

[TeriXeri]

5 minutes ago, dimc said:

Lego has considered skeletons as minifigs going back to the mid 90s. Wolfpack Tower shows as having 4 minifigs, and the ghost is included right at the front with the 3 humans.

I agree they do show the figures where possible, it's more of a way how things are listed/cataloged.

Brickset and Bricklink do count skeletons as minifigs , descriptions of sets have and have not.

At this point it's a bit of a nitpick between some official description text or a database.

 

At least the skeletons aren't the 1995 floppy arms versions anymore, so they can be used as opponents by holding weapons a bit better.

Edited June 23, 2022 by TeriXeri

[dimc]

Just now, TeriXeri said:

I agree they do show the figures where possible, at this point it's more of a way how things are listed/cataloged.

Brickset and Bricklink do count skeletons as minifigs , descriptions of sets have and have not, at this point it's a bit of a nitpick.

I would be curious to see how Lego has their databases set up. There doesn't seem to be a consistent way to describe them, and there's no "spec sheet" as it were, outside of the bricks guides at the back of the instructions. I have no idea how these show minifigs/skeletons though, since I haven't opened a set with a skeleton since before they started including the brick counts.

[TeriXeri]

LEGO is just inconsistent , here are 2 2022 sets: 

31130: Sunken Treasure Mission counts the skeleton as minifigure

80034: Nezha's Fire Ring , does not count it.

 

2021: Medieval Castle did not count it

2020 : Barracuda Bay did not count 2, Hidden Side Lighthouse counted it , Halloween Hayride did not count

2019 : Hidden Side Graveyard calls it "a skeleton figure" but includes it in the count.

2018 : 31084: Pirate Roller Coaster seperates 4 minifigures from "a skeleton figure"

 

At this point there's no logic/pattern behind it.

Edited June 23, 2022 by TeriXeri

[Triceron]

7 minutes ago, TeriXeri said:

LEGO is just inconsistent , here are 2 2022 sets: 

31130: Sunken Treasure Mission counts the skeleton as minifigure

80034: Nezha's Fire Ring , does not count it.

 

It's completely inconsistent, and they don't even budget skeletons in as minifigs for most products.

The Monkie Kid polybag even has 2 skeletons in it!

[Follows Closely]

I will be widening the gatehouse a few bricks. Which also means widening the wall on the right.

[natesroom]

interesting i kind of like the thicker front. I wonder how that affects the overall build and being able to close it up.

Edited June 23, 2022 by natesroom

[Lion King]

What a big deal bout skeleton? Of course it’s a “nomral” minifigure and my prediction stood correct. 

[Roebuck]

1 hour ago, TeriXeri said:

Description on LEGO.com does say 22

Skeletons do not count in my mind and they have a rather limited use. The press release mention a cat as well so could be that a minifig was swapped out for something else in the last minute or they are just inconsistent as several mentions

To me the goat is something we as Castle fans should be able to "force" Lego to make, other themes like SW seems always to have a specific minifig or similar they are campaigning for Lego to make and after a couple of years it usually shown up as well. We managed to vote Castle to victory so we should be able to bring back the goat as well, after all the castle set is only worth about 8 goats

[RichardGoring]

2 hours ago, dimc said:

Is the wizard still available at BAM, and is that only in stores or online as well?

Yes. It's currently rolling out, and at least a few stores haven't had it yet. So you may have to wait until it comes in.

[Darkdragon]

2 hours ago, TeriXeri said:

At this point there's no logic/pattern behind it.

It might be based on how it is used in the set. As a decoration or as an action/play figure.

[Triceron]

17 minutes ago, Darkdragon said:

It might be based on how it is used in the set. As a decoration or as an action/play figure.

That still wouldn't make sense for the Creator 3-in-1 Castle and Pirate sets not counting it while this Castle set does.

It really doesn't follow any pattern at all, at least one that we're aware of.

[Weil]

I remember reading in a Lego book, I think "I love that minifigure" that Lego does not consider skeletons to be minifigures.  It was a surprise to me at the time and is probably why that nugget of information stuck with me.  Though maybe the definition has changed over time, or perhaps not even everyone at Lego is aware and some mistakes creep through.

[Wardancer]

I think it is safe to say that denying the minifig identity to a skeleton is very mortophobe and not in line with recent diversity, inclusion and equity (d.i.e.) policies.

[Weil]

4 minutes ago, Wardancer said:

I think it is safe to say that denying the minifig identity to a skeleton is very mortophobe and not in line with recent diversity, inclusion and equity (d.i.e.) policies.

[natesroom]

 

26 minutes ago, Wardancer said:

I think it is safe to say that denying the minifig identity to a skeleton is very mortophobe and not in line with recent diversity, inclusion and equity (d.i.e.) policies.

I'm just upset that all my skeletons are the same gender... Minifigure Smiley

[Doddsino]

23 minutes ago, natesroom said:

 

I'm just upset that all my skeletons are the same gender... Minifigure Smiley

Over the years, Lego has come a long ways with introducing ways for Lego children and even Lego babies. I'm surprised they haven't had a Lego skeleton child or Lego skeleton baby yet. This is the time of the Bubonic Plague...so it's not a large stretch.

You know what? Now I just want one of those Plague Doctors with the big bird mask in Lego form. Maybe that should have taken the place of Majesto.

Maybe that should be the next theme, we've had Black Falcons...we've had Black Knights....why not Black Death? Each minifigure has a normal face that swaps over to the grotesque effects of the plague.

[Triceron]

3 minutes ago, Doddsino said:

Over the years, Lego has come a long ways with introducing ways for Lego children and even Lego babies. I'm surprised they haven't had a Lego skeleton child or Lego skeleton baby yet.

Well, they do have this